Plumlee

[ShotgunDawg]

So Matt Corral announced he was returning this morning & with Kiffin's offense being about a 50/50 run/pass split, I expect Corral to start for Ole Miss going forward.

This puts Plumlee in a very odd position as I think he won over the team last season, but won't beat out Corral in an offense where passing is much more important than Rich Rod's.

To make matters more complicated, in addition to missing Fall practice, Plumlee isn't a good enough hitter currently to really make an impact on the Ole Miss baseball team.

So what should he do?

- Will he move to WR? If he was willing to play WR, he would've never chosen Ole Miss. Would've gone to UGA or somewhere else.
- Does he stick it out in hopes of beating Corral out? This will be a big uphill battle for him in Kiffin's offense
- Does he transfer, &, if so, where? If he transfers, I could either see him going home to USM where he could be a star in both sports or the best fit IMO would be Louisville. He'd be a perfect fit in Satterfield's heavy run offense & could slowly work his way on the field for McDonald's baseball team.

If I were Plumlee, in light of what Lamar Jackson is doing in the NFL, I'd transfer to Louisville & play both sports. For athletes as electric as Plumlee, the NFL will let them play QB. He'd be dumb to change positions IMO.

I realize most don't care about this, but I thought is was an interesting discussion

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

You scared of Plumlee?

[fader2103]

I hope Plumlee stays at Ole Miss. we showed teams again how to stop an opponent. If somehow he beats Corral Ole Miss will win 4 games.

[Cooterpoot]

Well, I can tell you he and his family aren’t happy about the change (fact). I could see a situation where he ends up being baseball only at some point. He likes OM, but we’ll see.

[ShotgunDawg]

You scared of Plumlee?

For 17 sakes.

I just said it was an interesting discussion.

Take that BS somewhere else. If you don't want to discuss it, then don't discuss it

[ShotgunDawg]

Well, I can tell you he and his family aren’t happy about the change (fact). I could see a situation where he ends up being baseball only at some point. He likes OM, but we’ll see.

To me, playing baseball only would be a mistake. He's far more likely to be an NFL player than a MLB player.

[chef dixon]

He needs to play baseball and kind of all purpose guy on offense for football

[Cooterpoot]

To me, playing baseball only would be a mistake. He's far more likely to be an NFL player than a MLB player.

Not true. Because he refuses to play anything but QB. He’s not a great hitter, but he can be as good as Billy Hamilton (Billy did make the switch to the left side). Basically a defensive and speed guy with a big arm. He will never be a high draft pick unless he becomes a better hitter. He’s a stiff hitter. Hip rotation is limited IMO (Hamilton has that knock as well). The kid is exceptionally intelligent. He’s going to graduate early. He could transfer out. We’ll see.

[msstate7]

If I were kiffin, I'd sell plumlee on a taysom hill type of roll except for slot instead of te. Let em line up at qb, rb, wr, and return specialist. Plumlee in this role would be a present day Freddie milons.

Plumlee shouldn't be compared to Lamar jackson imo. While both are freaking electric running the ball, Lamar is 3" taller and has a rocket for an arm.

[RiverCityDawg]

I hope Plumlee stays at Ole Miss. we showed teams again how to stop an opponent. If somehow he beats Corral Ole Miss will win 4 games.

You're assuming he can't improve as a passer from where he was as a true freshman. Not sure that's a fair assumption. I would rather ole miss go with Corral than Plumblee. Corral is crazy and a loser. I want him leading them.

[Cooterpoot]

He’s too small to play the Hill role unless he’s willing to be a slot guy. He’s refused to play anything other than QB. He required a QB opportunity to go anywhere. I really don’t see him backing away from that because I heard it first hand when he was being recruited. It’s all a wait and see. I could see him trying football next year and then making a decision.

[chef dixon]

You're assuming he can't improve as a passer from where he was as a true freshman. Not sure that's a fair assumption. I would rather ole miss go with Corral than Plumblee. Corral is crazy and a loser. I want him leading them.

Agree. Ole miss fans are funny. Ripped Matt Luke and called him fat and then when he was fired they all praised him for how much he did for the university. Ripped corral all season for sucking and now he is says he is coming back and they love him. Ripped plumlee all season for not being able to throw but he was the spark plug of their season.

Corral sucks. Hope he starts next year.

[timotheus]

If Plumlee isn't QB #1 after fall and I do not expect him to be due to playing baseball and missing most of spring practice, I'd look for the Tisdale kid to make a run for the QB spot. He's much more calm in the pocket than golden corral and is athletic enough to scramble when needed. This depends much on Lebby now too as he is the OC.

[RIdog]

Being a New Englander , I see Edelman .

[timotheus]

I think Plumlee would excel in that role. The catch is all the "family gotta be all in" stuff. Lotta ego's being stroked.

[Tbonewannabe]

If I were kiffin, I'd sell plumlee on a taysom hill type of roll except for slot instead of te. Let em line up at qb, rb, wr, and return specialist. Plumlee in this role would be a present day Freddie milons.

Plumlee shouldn't be compared to Lamar jackson imo. While both are freaking electric running the ball, Lamar is 3" taller and has a rocket for an arm.

Lamar was also a 60% passer. He was a great college QB.

[msstate7]

I'm very interested in the OM qb battle this spring. Kiffin did a bang up job with sims at Bama, so I wouldn't count plumlee out just yet. Still think plumlee in a slash role would be the best thing for the OM offense. Hopefully plumlee is qb or nothing still

[Ari Gold]

Maybe he plays basketball next year too....

[Todd4State]

Maybe he plays basketball next year too....

I don’t know. I heard he can throw a football over a mountain.**

[Jack Lambert]

I would suspect he stays simply because of baseball and he is on full ride with football. Now they might offer a full ride in baseball but that would really hurt.

[Jack Lambert]

I'm very interested in the OM qb battle this spring. Kiffin did a bang up job with sims at Bama, so I wouldn't count plumlee out just yet. Still think plumlee in a slash role would be the best thing for the OM offense. Hopefully plumlee is qb or nothing still

I wonder how much practice Plumlee gets in the spring.

[Todd4State]

I wonder how much practice Plumlee gets in the spring.

I don’t know but playing baseball will limit it some.

[Leroy Jenkins]

I would suspect he stays simply because of baseball and he is on full ride with football. Now they might offer a full ride in baseball but that would really hurt.

Maybe he will convert to the good guys since his GF is here. ***

[Todd4State]

Maybe he will convert to the good guys since his GF is here.

Not while we have Shrader. USM would be more likely.

I could see Tulane because of the offense they run.

[maroonmania]

I would suspect he stays simply because of baseball and he is on full ride with football. Now they might offer a full ride in baseball but that would really hurt.

Yep, that's actually a great situation given he gets a full scholarship off of football but doesn't have to sacrifice any baseball to be at spring practice.

[maroonmania]

Not while we have Shrader. USM would be more likely.

I could see Tulane because of the offense they run.

Plus, JoMo's offense has way too many reads and complexities to have a QB that isn't playing the sport full time.

[RougeDawg]

He needs to play baseball and kind of all purpose guy on offense for football


Plus, JoMo's offense has way too many reads and complexities to have a QB that isn't playing the sport full time.

I?m convinced that 50+% of nfl quarterbacks would struggle with JoVesters offense. Hell, I am not even convinced he even knows his damn offense. He is a clown and needs to be sent packing. Our administration sacrificed the 2020 season to save a few dollars and expect us to keep showing up and donating thousands of our hard earned cash.

[Goldendawg]

Plus, JoMo's offense has way too many reads and complexities to have a QB that isn't playing the sport full time.

Heck, Jo's offense has too many reads for a QB that does play the sport full time, ( also WR;s and OL). Hail State!

[Commercecomet24]

Well, I can tell you he and his family aren’t happy about the change (fact). I could see a situation where he ends up being baseball only at some point. He likes OM, but we’ll see.

Yep, this. He went to om to play in Rodriguez offense. I wouldn't be surprised to see him just play baseball but doubtful he'll be an impact player in baseball either

[Dawgology]

I?m convinced that 50+% of nfl quarterbacks would struggle with JoVesters offense. Hell, I am not even convinced he even knows his damn offense. He is a clown and needs to be sent packing. Our administration sacrificed the 2020 season to save a few dollars and expect us to keep showing up and donating thousands of our hard earned cash.

He understands his offense he just doesn’t know how to communicate it effectively it seems.

[OLJWales]

**** OM, **** Fredo and **** this thread. Ain't gonna read it, just saw the header and decided to **** it.

[Todd4State]

Plus, JoMo's offense has way too many reads and complexities to have a QB that isn't playing the sport full time.

Plumlee isn't accurate enough. That's where playing baseball will limit him the most- improving that IMO.

[maroonmania]

Heck, Jo's offense has too many reads for a QB that does play the sport full time, ( also WR;s and OL). Hail State!

Fully agree

[maroonmania]

Yep, this. He went to om to play in Rodriguez offense. I wouldn't be surprised to see him just play baseball but doubtful he'll be an impact player in baseball either

Would seem to depend on how much he needs the full ride scholarship.

[Cooterpoot]

Would seem to depend on how much he needs the full ride scholarship.

He’d have that anyway. His ACT score is high enough to be a full ride.

[Todd4State]

He’d have that anyway. His ACT score is high enough to be a full ride.

Like Ole Miss would play by the rules with his scholarship anyway.

[Bothrops]

Plumlee won't make it through another year of football without a knee or ankle injury. Not if he plays a lot.

[Commercecomet24]

Would seem to depend on how much he needs the full ride scholarship.

He's already covered by academics he can choose whatever he wants

[msstate7]

This has gotten dumb. Plumlee as a true freshman just led the sec in rushing/yds a game. He isn't quitting football. Good grief

[Todd4State]

This has gotten dumb. Plumlee as a true freshman just led the sec in rushing/yds a game. He isn't quitting football. Good grief

You think Kiffin will use him like Rich Rod did? And knowing that he will be playing baseball in the spring?

[msstate7]

You think Kiffin will use him like Rich Rod did? And knowing that he will be playing baseball in the spring?

No, I don't think kiffin will use him the same, but I'm not counting him out as the starter just yet. Even if he isn't the starter, kiffin may convince him to stay. He could do like the 3 heisman finalists qbs last night and transfer (not saying he's a heisman guy). Just saying that kid isn't quitting football after having a damn good true freshman year

[Cooterpoot]

This has gotten dumb. Plumlee as a true freshman just led the sec in rushing/yds a game. He isn't quitting football. Good grief

Not this year

[dawgoneyall]

Jackson was a very good college passer....Plumlee isn't even kinda good.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

For 17 sakes.

I just said it was an interesting discussion.

Take that BS somewhere else. If you don't want to discuss it, then don't discuss it

Why don?t you take the 17 back to the board it belongs bud..

[Jack Lambert]

Why don?t you take the 17 back to the board it belongs bud..

**** yeah

[Todd4State]

No, I don't think kiffin will use him the same, but I'm not counting him out as the starter just yet. Even if he isn't the starter, kiffin may convince him to stay. He could do like the 3 heisman finalists qbs last night and transfer (not saying he's a heisman guy). Just saying that kid isn't quitting football after having a damn good true freshman year

If they name him the starter odds are high it's so that he doesn't transfer out. Ole Miss does things like that sometimes. However odds are one of these things will happen most likely:

1. Matt Corral will start and he will probably transfer out.

2. They will make him switch positions when it is known that a lot of the reason he went there in the first place was to play QB.

3. They'll make him the starter and it will work out about like Fitz in Joe's offense if not worse. Probably even worse since they actually finished below us this year in PPG meaning they weren't very good to start with under Rich Rod. Despite racking up tons of yards. If that happens they probably lose Corral.

Whatever Kiffin does it's highly unlikely that he will be able to maximize Plumlee's skill set. Blake Sims was at least twice as good a passer as Plumlee is. Not to mention Sims didn't play baseball.

[timotheus]

Probably need to research Lebby's offense down at UCF and that should give a glimpse of what to expect.

[WPDawg]

Yep, this. He went to om to play in Rodriguez offense. I wouldn't be surprised to see him just play baseball but doubtful he'll be an impact player in baseball either

Commerce - When he was a senior in HS, coaches thought his upside and potential professional future was baseball. Whats your view on his baseball potential?

Of course this was before his speed showed up in the SEC. I could see him as a Edleman type player in football with the speed he has.

[BB30]

I?m convinced that 50+% of nfl quarterbacks would struggle with JoVesters offense. Hell, I am not even convinced he even knows his damn offense. He is a clown and needs to be sent packing. Our administration sacrificed the 2020 season to save a few dollars and expect us to keep showing up and donating thousands of our hard earned cash.

I'm shocked that you found a way to rip JOMO in a discussion about a player that isn't even at state. Give it a rest man you'll be happier if you just don't think about it for a while.

[Commercecomet24]

Commerce - When he was a senior in HS, coaches thought his upside and potential professional future was baseball. Whats your view on his baseball potential?

Of course this was before his speed showed up in the SEC. I could see him as a Edleman type player in football with the speed he has.

The question on Plumlee is his hitting. Obviously great speed, good arm and will be a plus defender. He's got work to do in the cage if he's gonna hit SEC pitching. The kid is a dang hard worker though, but splitting time between baseball and football will not do him any favors. He needs the reps in the cage and hitting live quality pitching.

[Ari Gold]

Straight from an Ex UM baseball player from a baseball coach there now.
Ealy will never play baseball . can’t hit
Plumlee better chance to see playing time

With a Plumlee and football and since for some reason this thread still has a pulse.
Plumlee had success at QB in the SEC , I’m doubting this kid is going to switch positions now. QBs are hell bent on playing QB it’s hard to make them change positions. Especially when they have success and beat out the same guy the previous year.
If he does make the move to slot, or a hybrid type guy then more power to him. He isn’t going to play RB.
Corall coming back tells me the writing is on the wall that he will be the #1 again going into the spring and probably the fall also with Tisdale returning says a lot as well

Maybe he transfers maybe he doesn’t, but I bet he isn’t the starting QB come next fall..

Hopefully this thread makes it off the first page soon...