$10,000,000

[bobcat91]

All you internet badasses that call out Cohen, Keenum, our money booster, put up 10 million and buy out Moorhead so we can get back to what really matters.

Like, talking about a solid but unspectacular hire at OM, how Cohen is LT, how our boosters suck because we need them to piss away millions, etc.

The bottom line is it always sounds good to have someone else piss away their money. So here's your chance. Dig in your pockets and get the 10 million needed to pay off Moorhead and staff. And while you're at it, come up with 10 to 15 more million for a new staff.

Here's a secret. These guys didn't become millionaires by being stupid. So get your go fund me page going. I've never seen a bigger group of nickle and dimers bitching because we didnt act stupid as an Athletic Department. But then again, how many of you have actually worked in an AD office.

[msstate7]

Just shut up

[HoopsDawg]

troll

[bobcat91]

Lol. Come on loudmouths. Where is the #FindJoeAHome page

[KOdawg1]

Good grief

[Offshore Dawg]

troll

Sounds factual to me, reality sucks really. A lot of the bitchers on here must be democrats ( since they are good at spending somebody else's money ).

[HoopsDawg]

Lol. Come on loudmouths. Where is the #FindJoeAHome page

This is a worthless, bait post. You are a troll who adds no value to the board. Your one goals seems to be attacking other posters. Hopefully this stupid post gets deleted and you get a vacation from posting.

[bobcat91]

This is a worthless, bait post. You are a troll who adds no value to the board. Your one goals seems to be attacking other posters. Hopefully this stupid post gets deleted and you get a vacation from posting.

Shove your group think up your ass. All you idiots do is bitch and bitch and do nothing

[HoopsDawg]

Sounds factual to me, reality sucks really. A lot of the bitchers on here must be democrats ( since they are good at spending somebody else's money ).

I will humor you. First of all, neither you nor the OP knows how much anyone on this board donates to MSU. Secondly, we have the money to buyout Joe, keeping him may cost us more in the long run. 3rd, if that's a problem, Cohen's ass would be on the hot seat for putting us in a bad contract with a coach that no one else was trying to hire.

[parabrave]

Dam how many names does 007 have?

[MrKotter]

Lol. Come on loudmouths. Where is the #FindJoeAHome page

Does your family tree fork at all

[Offshore Dawg]

I will humor you. First of all, neither you nor the OP knows how much anyone on this board donates to MSU. Secondly, we have the money to buyout Joe, keeping him may cost us more in the long run. 3rd, if that's a problem, Cohen's ass would be on the hot seat for putting us in a bad contract with a coach that no one else was trying to hire.

Well Hoops that is true, but I think a lot of bitching is done by those don't donate much.

[bobcat91]

Does your family tree fork at all

Sure does. How does being an brain dead follower feel?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

OK this is approaching ban territory, has too. He's just attacking and calling out posters personally and providing nothing in the way of discussion. It has nothing to do with his oppinions, I think Liver is fine and he's got opinions most of us don't' like too. But he'll discuss and add to the board. This joker needs to go

[defiantdog]

Do you think boosters only give money when they want a change? Do you think no one here annually gives to the alumni association? Have you ever given anything back to MSU?

[SPMT]

Suck a dick dumbass

[Todd4State]

Shove your group think up your ass. All you idiots do is bitch and bitch and do nothing

Then why are you here?

[starkvegasdawg]

So let me get this straight. If I'm not a multi millionaire and able to write a huge check I have no ability to not be happy with the direction our team is heading? My upper deck season tickets should at least grant me the right to have an angry look on my face. But I'm strongly considering not renewing them next year. Between the crap on the field and the fan experience in the stadium it's starting to look more attractive to sit at home and watch on my tv. But rest assured, if I don't renew my tickets, then I will immediately cease and desist with my angry look. I'll join gene's page and pump sunshine 24/7.

[KOdawg1]

So let me get this straight. If I'm not a multi millionaire and able to write a huge check I have no ability to not be happy with the direction our team is heading?

Nope. You must follow these steps:

1) Find a kid's playground
2) Find a sand box
3) Take a deep breath
4) Stick your head in it

[parabrave]

Nope. You must follow these steps:

1) Find a kid's playground
2) Find a sand box
3) Take a deep breath
4) Stick your head in it

#5 put some rocks in the box and kick them while you're pounding the sand

[msbulldog]

My rock-kicker is broke along with my give-a-damn.

[Dawg2003]

Shove your group think up your ass. All you idiots do is bitch and bitch and do nothing

Does it make you feel better to yell at people on a message board?

[Homedawg]

Shove your group think up your ass. All you idiots do is bitch and bitch and do nothing

So start a thread to stir me up. You've made the top 5.....

[MaroonFlounder]

How much is bobcat willing to contribute to the cause?

[Doggie_Style]

How much is bobcat willing to contribute to the cause?

Looks like Slomo has highjacked Bobcats account

[Leroy Jenkins]

All you internet badasses that call out Cohen, Keenum, our money booster, put up 10 million and buy out Moorhead so we can get back to what really matters.

Like, talking about a solid but unspectacular hire at OM, how Cohen is LT, how our boosters suck because we need them to piss away millions, etc.

The bottom line is it always sounds good to have someone else piss away their money. So here's your chance. Dig in your pockets and get the 10 million needed to pay off Moorhead and staff. And while you're at it, come up with 10 to 15 more million for a new staff.

Here's a secret. These guys didn't become millionaires by being stupid. So get your go fund me page going. I've never seen a bigger group of nickle and dimers bitching because we didnt act stupid as an Athletic Department. But then again, how many of you have actually worked in an AD office.

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[Dawgology]

Meh, don’t really care enough about this football program anymore to give a crap one way or another. You do you.

[bobcat91]

I'm disappointed. Where are all the ED big spenders. I thought there would be over 50 dollars by now. Lol

[bobcat91]

How much is bobcat willing to contribute to the cause?

Zero. I'm not in the ED mind controlled Fire Joe group think group.

[Todd4State]

I'm disappointed. Where are all the ED big spenders. I thought there would be over 50 dollars by now. Lol

They tend to ignore jokes.

[bobcat91]

This is a worthless, bait post. You are a troll who adds no value to the board. Your one goals seems to be attacking other posters. Hopefully this stupid post gets deleted and you get a vacation from posting.

Anger issues I see. There are professionals that can help you out.

[bobcat91]

They tend to ignore jokes.

How about you Todd? How much can I put you down for?

[dantheman4248]

This thread is bad and there are two idiots who need to get some education on humanity and life.

Such a sad society we live in where one person's bank account can outweigh a million others so we follow the dollar instead of the needs / wants of the many.

It's beyond stupidity to call people democrats for spending "other people's money." That shit is a both sides problem. But it's not communism / socialism when we spend billions to bailout big banks, large corporations, etc. It is communism / socialism when we spend billions to help poor people. They both spend taxpayer money and funnel it to their interests. You're just naive that the republicans don't do it to because they give you more money to play with initially even though you now have to spend it on more things. (And seriously if you read this post thinking I'm a republican hater; no, I see the fault on both sides and do what every voter should do in the election cycle. Vote for my interest.)

[Todd4State]

How about you Todd? How much can I put you down for?

1200 vcash that this gets bumped next year and proves what an idiot you are.

If you actually knew what you were talking about the problem isn’t the boosters. It’s the AD who is blocking it.

Once that gets eradicated next year it won’t be an issue.

[bobcat91]

1200 vcash that this gets bumped next year and proves what an idiot you are.

If you actually knew what you were talking about the problem isn’t the boosters. It’s the AD who is blocking it.

Once that gets eradicated next year it won’t be an issue.

Maybe I can use the cash and your idiotic bullshit baseball takes and get some money for our cause. And Cohen will be here for a long time because he doesnt answer to guys like you

[OLJWales]

All you internet badasses that call out Cohen, Keenum, our money booster, put up 10 million and buy out Moorhead so we can get back to what really matters.

Like, talking about a solid but unspectacular hire at OM, how Cohen is LT, how our boosters suck because we need them to piss away millions, etc.

The bottom line is it always sounds good to have someone else piss away their money. So here's your chance. Dig in your pockets and get the 10 million needed to pay off Moorhead and staff. And while you're at it, come up with 10 to 15 more million for a new staff.

Here's a secret. These guys didn't become millionaires by being stupid. So get your go fund me page going. I've never seen a bigger group of nickle and dimers bitching because we didnt act stupid as an Athletic Department. But then again, how many of you have actually worked in an AD office.

What a crock of total shit

[Todd4State]

Maybe I can use the cash and your idiotic bullshit baseball takes and get some money for our cause. And Cohen will be here for a long time because he doesnt answer to guys like you

You won’t have to worry about it since you aren’t winning it in the first place p u s s y Now go back to Genespage.

[Maroonthirteen]

Good post Bobcat.

Most On here bitching over and over and over about 6-6 season, win over OM andbowl game.... won?t even buy a ticket next year or to the bowl game. So id like see those same people write a 10MM check to MSU.

[bobcat91]

You won’t have to worry about it since you aren’t winning it in the first place p u s s y Now go back to Genespage.

Come on tough guy. You post tons of shit, none of it makes sense and yet I cant get you down for a 10 spot to put your money where your mouth is. Where is your loyalty to the cause of getting rid of not only Moorhead but now Cohen has to go as well? Why stop there? How about Keenum? Shouldn't you be on some loser Cardinals board wondering how you give up 10 runs in the first inning of a playoff game? Dont you need to raise money to fire their coach? You must just be too over extended to worry about who all needs firing.

[Todd4State]

Good post Bobcat.

Most On here bitching over and over and over about 6-6 season, win over OM andbowl game.... won?t even buy a ticket next year or to the bowl game. So id like see those same people write a 10MM check to MSU.

Yeah. Don’t bitch if you can’t afford 10 million dollars is the dumbest shit I have ever seen on this board. By that logic you might as well not watch at all unless you can buy out the coach. Read that out loud and you’ll understand how stupid it is.

That’s like saying don’t complain about McDonald’d being shitty because you can’t write the check to buy them out. Right Bitchcat?

[dantheman4248]

Good post Bobcat.

Most On here bitching over and over and over about 6-6 season, win over OM andbowl game.... won?t even buy a ticket next year or to the bowl game. So id like see those same people write a 10MM check to MSU.

Sorry I wasn't born rich and just graduated from this school in may. Stupid me not having $10 Million dollars in my bank account right away at 18 because my parents paid medical bills out the ass for a disease my father got when he was 7. My opinion doesn't matter and so does the countless other MSU fans / alumni with just as hard or worse lives growing up. Our bank accounts can't talk so we'll just let the ugly 1/3 full stadium do the talking.

Keep thinking like this and you'll be longing for a crowd that looked like Homecoming this year.

[bobcat91]

Yeah. Don’t bitch if you can’t afford 10 million dollars is the dumbest shit I have ever seen on this board. By that logic you might as well not watch at all unless you can buy out the coach. Read that out loud and you’ll understand how stupid it is.

That’s like saying don’t complain about McDonald’d being shitty because you can’t write the check to buy them out. Right Bitchcat?

You seem distressed. Maybe time out and a nap for your tantrums would help

[Maroonthirteen]

So let me get this straight. If I'm not a multi millionaire and able to write a huge check I have no ability to not be happy with the direction our team is heading? My upper deck season tickets should at least grant me the right to have an angry look on my face. But I'm strongly considering not renewing them next year. Between the crap on the field and the fan experience in the stadium it's starting to look more attractive to sit at home and watch on my tv. But rest assured, if I don't renew my tickets, then I will immediately cease and desist with my angry look. I'll join gene's page and pump sunshine 24/7.

Anyone can be unhappy. But the 24/7 bitch fest, slandering all things MSU is ridiculous. It?s put up
Or shut up is the point I take.

In October people were posting here about PJ Fleck, Matt Rhule, Clawson.... what a joke. We would have got Chizik for a coach. Would that be worth 10MM? We weren?t getting norvell. Maybe we get Napier. Or maybe we look a bunch of idiots like Arkansas. But even if we did get Napier ....the same complainers would be upset today because Napier lost his game and Kiffen won his.

[bobcat91]

Sorry I wasn't born rich and just graduated from this school in may. Stupid me not having $10 Million dollars in my bank account right away at 18 because my parents paid medical bills out the ass for a disease my father got when he was 7. My opinion doesn't matter and so does the countless other MSU fans / alumni with just as hard or worse lives growing up. Our bank accounts can't talk so we'll just let the ugly 1/3 full stadium do the talking.

Keep thinking like this and you'll be longing for a crowd that looked like Homecoming this year.

And that's the problem. None of you fire everyone has any respect for anyone who disagrees. And since you didnt get your way and get the coach fired, you want to punish the school and burn everything down. Yall are the ones who need to take a hard look at what you are doing

[Todd4State]

Come on tough guy. You post tons of shit, none of it makes sense and yet I cant get you down for a 10 spot to put your money where your mouth is. Where is your loyalty to the cause of getting rid of not only Moorhead but now Cohen has to go as well? Why stop there? How about Keenum? Shouldn't you be on some loser Cardinals board wondering how you give up 10 runs in the first inning of a playoff game? Dont you need to raise money to fire their coach? You must just be too over extended to worry about who all needs firing.

If I met you in person you would run off like a bitch while I laugh in your face. People like you are bitch cowards. Run your mouth about how much better you are than everyone else when the truth is you are just a little bitch.

Little BitchKitty.

[bobcat91]

If I met you in person you would run off like a bitch while I laugh in your face. People like you are bitch cowards. Run your mouth about how much better you are than everyone else when the truth is you are just a little bitch.

Little BitchKitty.

Yeah, I'm not really all that scared of guys like you who empty bed pans for a living. And I'd take great pleasure in our meeting. You, not so much

[Maroonthirteen]

Yeah. Don?t bitch if you can?t afford 10 million dollars is the dumbest shit I have ever seen on this board. By that logic you might as well not watch at all unless you can buy out the coach. Read that out loud and you?ll understand how stupid it is.

That?s like saying don?t complain about McDonald?d being shitty because you can?t write the check to buy them out. Right Bitchcat?

Every fan has a right to be upset. However calling folks that are very generous to MSU ?Virginia slims? is stupid.

[dantheman4248]

And that's the problem. None of you fire everyone has any respect for anyone who disagrees. And since you didnt get your way and get the coach fired, you want to punish the school and burn everything down. Yall are the ones who need to take a hard look at what you are doing

No one that disagrees can give any excuse other than "We don't have the money.", "You can't fire him after year 2.", "He's 2-0 vs. OM.", or the worst one, "You need to know MSU's ceiling."

If you have an argument that is why Joe is a good coach and we should keep him (or better yet why someone would be happy to poach him), I'd love to hear it. But you can't. The only arguments are those that are against firing him, not for keeping him. When you get to that point, the coach is done for, it's just a matter of when.

[Todd4State]

And that's the problem. None of you fire everyone has any respect for anyone who disagrees. And since you didnt get your way and get the coach fired, you want to punish the school and burn everything down. Yall are the ones who need to take a hard look at what you are doing

The problem is sometimes change can help. But the problem is people like you are too scared to do it. So the problem just gets worse and worse.

People are not happy with the product. If the powers that be don’t perform change will be made. The problem is people like you want to wait while the house is burned down when the fire is already raging. You know because maybe the fire will go out on it’s own.

And then you come back and attack our fans with “why don’t you pay 10 million to fix it”? Which is stupid because it can be fixed without that. And hell yes- if Cohen keeps an incompetent coach bedside he’s his guy you fire Cohen too because he is tangibly part of the problem. Same with Keenum but Keenum isn’t to my understanding wanting to keep him.

[Todd4State]

Yeah, I'm not really all that scared of guys like you who empty bed pans for a living. And I'd take great pleasure in our meeting. You, not so much

Pissing off hospital people before you get put into one isn’t smart. But you’ve already proven that you’re pretty stupid.

[Todd4State]

Every fan has a right to be upset. However calling folks that are very generous to MSU ?Virginia slims? is stupid.

Not when their selfishness is part of the problem too. They’ll have plenty of space next year.

[RougeDawg]

Sure does. How does being an brain dead follower feel?

The only braindead MSU supporters are those who defense and want to keep SloMo.

[dawgday166]

The only braindead MSU supporters are those who defense and want to keep SloMo.

I love the guy. Maybe a recruit will read this and swing his commitment over to MSU.

[bobcat91]

The problem is sometimes change can help. But the problem is people like you are too scared to do it. So the problem just gets worse and worse.

People are not happy with the product. If the powers that be don’t perform change will be made. The problem is people like you want to wait while the house is burned down when the fire is already raging. You know because maybe the fire will go out on it’s own.

And then you come back and attack our fans with “why don’t you pay 10 million to fix it”? Which is stupid because it can be fixed without that. And hell yes- if Cohen keeps an incompetent coach bedside he’s his guy you fire Cohen too because he is tangibly part of the problem. Same with Keenum but Keenum isn’t to my understanding wanting to keep him.

I've got no issue with you or any of the other guys wanting a change. I have a big problem with what this is doing to the fanbase. It is tearing it apart. No says Moorhead is above criticism or even wanting him gone. But the failure to accept that he will be back and continuing the war is hurting everyone. Today someone tweeted to Cohen and others that he want sell alcohol in the stadium because his wife is a recovering alcoholic. This has got to stop. If Moorhead doesnt perform next year, hes gone. And it wont take the fans to show him the door.

[Liverpooldawg]

troll

No troll. There needs to be more of that here. This place is like a bunch of whining toddlers in Walmart when Mommy won't buy them a toy.

[Todd4State]

I've got no issue with you or any of the other guys wanting a change. I have a big problem with what this is doing to the fanbase. It is tearing it apart. No says Moorhead is above criticism or even wanting him gone. But the failure to accept that he will be back and continuing the war is hurting everyone. Today someone tweeted to Cohen and others that he want sell alcohol in the stadium because his wife is a recovering alcoholic. This has got to stop. If Moorhead doesnt perform next year, hes gone. And it wont take the fans to show him the door.

The ones tearing the fan base apart are Joe and Cohen. More Joe than Cohen. He’s the one calling our fans out multiple times at press conferences. We all want to be united. I don’t think it will get better until Joe goes. In inappropriate for a coach to do that.

And as far as the person tweeting that at Cohen that’s over the top and on them. Not the posters here. I don’t care about the alcohol issue too much personally because it’s just MSU costing themselves money.

If you want to fix the problem you have to get rid of the cause. And that’s Joe. If Cohen tries to protect him he will be threatened with his job too and probably relent to the boosters.

The fact that they are tearing the fan base apart is why a lot of people want them gone. Let’s be honest- all of us with less than 10 million will be around long after Joe and Cohen.

[Lord McBuckethead]

All you internet badasses that call out Cohen, Keenum, our money booster, put up 10 million and buy out Moorhead so we can get back to what really matters.

Like, talking about a solid but unspectacular hire at OM, how Cohen is LT, how our boosters suck because we need them to piss away millions, etc.

The bottom line is it always sounds good to have someone else piss away their money. So here's your chance. Dig in your pockets and get the 10 million needed to pay off Moorhead and staff. And while you're at it, come up with 10 to 15 more million for a new staff.

Here's a secret. These guys didn't become millionaires by being stupid. So get your go fund me page going. I've never seen a bigger group of nickle and dimers bitching because we didnt act stupid as an Athletic Department. But then again, how many of you have actually worked in an AD office.

Pathetic.

[Liverpooldawg]

The ones tearing the fan base apart are Joe and Cohen. More Joe than Cohen. He’s the one calling our fans out multiple times at press conferences. We all want to be united. I don’t think it will get better until Joe goes. In inappropriate for a coach to do that.

And as far as the person tweeting that at Cohen that’s over the top and on them. Not the posters here. I don’t care about the alcohol issue too much personally because it’s just MSU costing themselves money.

If you want to fix the problem you have to get rid of the cause. And that’s Joe. If Cohen tries to protect him he will be threatened with his job too and probably relent to the boosters.

The fact that they are tearing the fan base apart is why a lot of people want them gone. Let’s be honest- all of us with less than 10 million will be around long after Joe and Cohen.

Nope. It's some of the fans, led by this place.

[Todd4State]

Nope. It's some of the fans, led by this place.

Really? Because if he even has anything close to a season like Dan’s 2010 he will get tons of support. It has been proven over and over across multiple MSU coaches in multiple sports. Joe hasn’t done that and has been calling people out on top of that. Ask Croom how well that works with MSU fans.

[TaleofTwoDogs]

What am I missing here? Bobcat is simply saying if all the ED posters on here that are convinced that the majority of state fans want Joe gone then they need to establish a buyout fund. If you can get 50,000 fans to contribute $200 then: 50000 x $200 = $10,000,000. Easy! Or you can think outside the box and negotiate with the cigar boys to put up 1 to 1 matching funds which means the average fan only need to pledge $100. Too many posters on this board have really thin skins. This is about the collective not the individual. Lighten up or move on. PS: Yes, he is a troll but that's what makes it fun reading.

[CoachT14]

I've got no issue with you or any of the other guys wanting a change. I have a big problem with what this is doing to the fanbase. It is tearing it apart. No says Moorhead is above criticism or even wanting him gone. But the failure to accept that he will be back and continuing the war is hurting everyone. Today someone tweeted to Cohen and others that he want sell alcohol in the stadium because his wife is a recovering alcoholic. This has got to stop. If Moorhead doesnt perform next year, hes gone. And it wont take the fans to show him the door.

Joe did this to himself. Not the fanbase. He came in talking "Championships and Rings", then when the going got tough it was "I gotta rebuild this" and "the fans need to check their expectations cause historically your program sucks" and now it's "you're going to have to drag my Yankee ass out of here" and "anybody who doesn't like it can kick rocks and pound sand". Or how about "this is my program". The only person tearing this fan base apart is the dick head idiot coaching our team.

Everyone keeps saying that it's okay that we aren't firing him now because we will next year. Why in the world are we just delaying the inevitable if that is the case? It makes no sense to keep a guy who's going to be fired in a year anyway. I don't think you quite understand the urgency of moving on from this shit-show we are currently under. We are about to get passed up by Ole Miss considering who they just hired. We aren't winning another egg bowl for quite awhile, so all of you "Egg bowl wins are all that matter" folks are about to be in for a rude awakening very soon. Not to mention, the accountability of these players is so bad, that whoever comes in once he's inevitably fired next year is in for a major rebuild. You have players yelling at coaches, taking plays off, etc...... once a new coach calls bullshit on that stuff, we are going to see an exodus of players fairly quickly after that. You cut ties now, that type of stuff doesn't fester and new blood can quickly move forward before that stuff becomes ingrained in these players.

It's a terrible excuse just like the excuses for keeping him like "he's got a winning record", "he's 2-0 against Ole Miss", "he went to bowl game". That's such a loser mentality that doesn't take any context into their thinking. No one in our history of football has ever taken over the program and been in as good a position to succeed as Moorhead. I don't understand how the winning record people don't see this (but they tend to be the one's who are blinded by maroon glasses all the time). I mean the guy took over a team that won 9 games the year before with a top 45 offense, 18 returning starters, a defense that ends up 1st in the nation, and 3 1st round draft picks.... then proceeds to win 8 games with that team. That's terrible. What he did last year was a fireable offense to a lot of ppl without maroon colored glasses.

Wanna have a tutorgate convo? That's on Moorhead. Plain and simple. A coach that has a culture of accountability and a thumb on his players would not have 10 players suspended for cheating on tests. Anybody that excuses him for that, doesn't understand coaching and how that works. That to me is enough to fire his ass.

[Liverpooldawg]

Really? Because if he even has anything close to a season like Dan?s 2010 he will get tons of support. It has been proven over and over across multiple MSU coaches in multiple sports. Joe hasn?t done that and has been calling people out on top of that. Ask Croom how well that works with MSU fans.

He was never forgiven for losing to Florida last year. Why can't we just shut up and let it play out? If we do let him go we are making it a lot harder to sign a good replacement. We are also making recruiting much harder and therefore making whoever the job of whoever the coach is harder. It's not doing one bit of good and it's still doing a lot of harm. It's also SO old MSU. I've seen this more times than I want to remember.

[Todd4State]

He was never forgiven for losing to Florida last year. Why can't we just shut up and let it play out? If we do let him go we are making it a lot harder to sign a good replacement. We are also making recruiting much harder and therefore making whoever the job of whoever the coach is harder. It's not doing one bit of good and it's still doing a lot of harm. It's also SO old MSU. I've seen this more times than I want to remember.

And Kentucky. And Iowa. And Tennessee. And Kansas State.

Being overly loyal to a failure of a coach is what’s SO old MSU. And honestly doesn’t hurt us at all because we are the most patient school in the conference. Probably even more patient than Vanderbilt.

[Really Clark?]

All you internet badasses that call out Cohen, Keenum, our money booster, put up 10 million and buy out Moorhead so we can get back to what really matters.

Like, talking about a solid but unspectacular hire at OM, how Cohen is LT, how our boosters suck because we need them to piss away millions, etc.


The bottom line is it always sounds good to have someone else piss away their money. So here's your chance. Dig in your pockets and get the 10 million needed to pay off Moorhead and staff. And while you're at it, come up with 10 to 15 more million for a new staff.

Here's a secret. These guys didn't become millionaires by being stupid. So get your go fund me page going. I've never seen a bigger group of nickle and dimers bitching because we didnt act stupid as an Athletic Department. But then again, how many of you have actually worked in an AD office.

The money was ready and available before the EB. Again, just because they choose to not use the funds to buyout Moorehead, didn?t mean it wasn?t there. So the premise of the thread is moot.

[OLJWales]

And that's the problem. None of you fire everyone has any respect for anyone who disagrees. And since you didnt get your way and get the coach fired, you want to punish the school and burn everything down. Yall are the ones who need to take a hard look at what you are doing

We disagree with not demanding accountability . You and your fellow trolls jerk off to MSU being satisfied with suckage. You should follow 007's suck cage.

[bobcat91]

We disagree with not demanding accountability . You and your fellow trolls jerk off to MSU being satisfied with suckage. You should follow 007's suck cage.

No one is satisfied with 6-6. We disagree that firing Moorhead after this year solves the problem. That's all.

[OLJWales]

He was never forgiven for losing to Florida last year. Why can't we just shut up and let it play out? If we do let him go we are making it a lot harder to sign a good replacement. We are also making recruiting much harder and therefore making whoever the job of whoever the coach is harder. It's not doing one bit of good and it's still doing a lot of harm. It's also SO old MSU. I've seen this more times than I want to remember.

We've seen it "play out" to the tune of 25 games and it's pure shit. Having a lame duck turd as HC isn't good for recruiting either .

[timotheus]

aw man, joe can go 6-6 next year with one eye closed. wait and see. if he's not 4-0 after the first 4 then can his guru intellectual self

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

He was never forgiven for losing to Florida last year. Why can't we just shut up and let it play out? If we do let him go we are making it a lot harder to sign a good replacement. We are also making recruiting much harder and therefore making whoever the job of whoever the coach is harder. It's not doing one bit of good and it's still doing a lot of harm. It's also SO old MSU. I've seen this more times than I want to remember.

So a message board should hide how it really feels about a coach because a future coach might read it and be turned off? OK, why stop there? We shouldn't even criticize Guidry then, because future recruits can read it. We shouldn't criticize Howland for "forgetting" Woodard exists. We shouldn't criticize Cohen. We should do nothing but sunshine pump all the time by your logic to make us seem like a the most supportive fanbase ever.

I'm in favor of us being honest and straightforward. Not necessarily airing leaks that would hurt the university, but we as fans can at least discuss our opinions. If that opinion is that our Football HC sucks, then we shouldn't censor it for the theoretical future benefit to our coaching search.

And saying "we want a new coach" instead of rallying behind a crappy coach is "SO old MSU"? It's the opposite, in fact: Supporting bad coaches leads to those bad coaches getting another year. Demanding success (within reason of course) leads to Admin feeling pressure to admit they made a bad hire and correct it. State has allowed mediocre coaches to stay employed here too long

[OLJWales]

No one is satisfied with 6-6. We disagree that firing Moorhead after this year solves the problem. That's all.

you choose to KEEP the problem. At least you admit we have one.

[99jc]

No one is satisfied with 6-6. We disagree that firing Moorhead after this year solves the problem. That's all.

17 it keep the fat bastard and I will make a ton of $$$$$$$ betting against that offensive genius!

[bobcat91]

you choose to KEEP the problem. At least you admit we have one.

He gets next year to show if he can make the adjustments necessary to coach in the league. If he wins he stays. If not yall get to anoint Napier. I have been consistent in saying this.

[CoachT14]

He gets next year to show if he can make the adjustments necessary to coach in the league. If he wins he stays. If not yall get to anoint Napier. I have been consistent in saying this.

This is pretty much the only time we can get Napier. Someone bigger comes calling next year if we don't act now. But our administration is too stupid and shortsighted to realize that.

[Todd4State]

This is pretty much the only time we can get Napier. Someone bigger comes calling next year if we don't act now. But our administration is too stupid and shortsighted to realize that.

I hope we get lucky. Cohen should probably hope so more than me.

[TrapGame]

I don't think Joe is completely out of the woods yet. He cannot be humiliated by a mid-tier MAC or ACC team in the bowl. The emotion of the egg bowl win has been snuffed out by a certain splashy hire and the impending group think that multiple ass whoopings on Thanksgiving night are forthcoming. Emotion led to retaining Joe and that same emotion can work against him very quickly now. We get thumped by Louisville or Miami (Ohio) and look like we've always done under Joe in these types of games and I believe it will be another firestorm.

[dawgday166]

I don't think Joe is completely out of the woods yet. He cannot be humiliated by a mid-tier MAC or ACC team in the bowl. The emotion of the egg bowl win has been snuffed out by a certain splashy hire and the impending group think that multiple ass whoopings on Thanksgiving night are forthcoming. Emotion led to retaining Joe and that same emotion can work against him very quickly now. We get thumped by Louisville or Miami (Ohio) and look like we've always done under Joe in these types of games and I believe it will be another firestorm.

He should be here another year regardless. Would I want to fire him if this happens .. sure. But all good HC candidates will be gobbled up by then. That would be another Rick Ray hire type situation ... and I could see our admins doing this too SMFH.

[Coach34]

17 it keep the fat bastard and I will make a ton of $$$$$$$ betting against that offensive genius!

this is a definite plus to overcome our current situation

[TrapGame]

He should be here another year regardless. Would I want to fire him if this happens .. sure. But all good HC candidates will be gobbled up by then. That would be another Rick Ray hire type situation ... and I could see our admins doing this too SMFH.

Not if Napier is sitting home like Cinderella missing the ball. It actually may be a better time than you think.

I'm hoping this business trip mentality we are supposed to be adopting pays off and we beat the brakes off whoever we draw for the bowl. B/c if we don't and lose to a really mediocre team the off season is going to be unbearable.