Tough Football Coach

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Fellas....I?ve been reading this board since its inception. I?ve had a username for a while, but I have not been an active poster. I probably have more visits and refreshes to these pages than Shotgun has posts. I spend too much time reading and thinking about Mississippi State football. Instead of trying to correct my obsession, I?m joining the conversation with the rest of you idiots.

Regarding the sharks hiring Kiffin....I think it is a good hire for them. I think he will be a good coach. However, they are who they are. Their culture will ruin any chance they have to have prolonged success, regardless of who the coach is. The UM culture is as set in stone as the law of gravity. I know the people in the town of Oxford. They cannot change.What we need to do to remain true to our culture after Joe is fired next year, is to hire a tougher than hell coach. A coach that will recruit sons of bitches in the trenches. A coach that embraces the blue collar work ethic people?s university. If we do that, we will be fine. I enjoy the board. Let?s keep it going. Hail State!

[timotheus]

this

[Rex54]

Napier or Hud.. by the way I’m sure CJM is a big fan of your username, we need the opposite at HC

[MaroonFlounder]

What we need to do to remain true to our culture after Joe is fired next year,

Don't even bother to say Hail State at the end of your post. You're counting on the head coach to fail miserably next year?

1)Joe is changing up the staff.

2) He recruits better than Mullen.

3) There will be no 8-game suspensions next year.

He might still crash and burn, but counting on that to happen is a dick move.

[Coursesuper]

Fellas....I?ve been reading this board since its inception. I?ve had a username for a while, but I have not been an active poster. I probably have more visits and refreshes to these pages than Shotgun has posts. I spend too much time reading and thinking about Mississippi State football. Instead of trying to correct my obsession, I?m joining the conversation with the rest of you idiots.

Regarding the sharks hiring Kiffin....I think it is a good hire for them. I think he will be a good coach. However, they are who they are. Their culture will ruin any chance they have to have prolonged success, regardless of who the coach is. The UM culture is as set in stone as the law of gravity. I know the people in the town of Oxford. They cannot change.What we need to do to remain true to our culture after Joe is fired next year, is to hire a tougher than hell coach. A coach that will recruit sons of bitches in the trenches. A coach that embraces the blue collar work ethic people?s university. If we do that, we will be fine. I enjoy the board. Let?s keep it going. Hail State!

The General has spoken!

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

I hope Joe proves all of us wrong. I?ll be the first to eat crow. I will also ALWAYS pull for the dawgs and hope the coach succeeds. But that is different than making projections of where we are headed. Based on what we?ve seen in two seasons, there is no evidence that says we will move the football on offense or be a disciplined team going forward with this staff.

[Bdawg]

I hope Joe proves all of us wrong. I?ll be the first to eat crow. I will also ALWAYS pull for the dawgs and hope the coach succeeds. But that is different than making projections of where we are headed. Based on what we?ve seen in two seasons, there is no evidence that says we will move the football on offense or be a disciplined team going forward with this staff.

What I've been saying. Effort and discipline must be fixed first. Can't be successful without those fixed first. It's what upsets me the most. OM game was best effort I saw all year. We were playing pretty hard and being physical. But there have been waaaay to many games that were not played that way. If we can get physically and mentally tougher, hopefully the offense will show up sometime. Still have my doubts because there is a mountain of evidence to say that it won't.

[dawgoneyall]

Don't even bother to say Hail State at the end of your post. You're counting on the head coach to fail miserably next year?

1)Joe is changing up the staff.

2) He recruits better than Mullen.

3) There will be no 8-game suspensions next year.

He might still crash and burn, but counting on that to happen is a dick move.

Do you really think Moorhead is going to fix his short comings?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Why not? Every man can learn. Every man can change thier commitment level. Time for our coach to grow up, now that he sees the level of actual effort it takes in the best league in the nation. I am pulling for him.

[MrKotter]

Don't even bother to say Hail State at the end of your post. You're counting on the head coach to fail miserably next year?

1)Joe is changing up the staff.

2) He recruits better than Mullen.

3) There will be no 8-game suspensions next year.

He might still crash and burn, but counting on that to happen is a dick move.

Bless your heart

[MaroonFlounder]

Bless your heart

Bless yours.

I'm open to change, including at the HC level, if that what it takes, but I'll be damned if I root for failure.

[DogsofAnarchy]

Don't even bother to say Hail State at the end of your post. You're counting on the head coach to fail miserably next year?

1)Joe is changing up the staff.

2) He recruits better than Mullen.

3) There will be no 8-game suspensions next year.

He might still crash and burn, but counting on that to happen is a dick move.

I don’t think anyone on here is “counting on that to happen.”

As far as “dick moves?” I’m sure you’re more experienced with dick than I am.

Now, that the insults are over, what I can tell you is that we will have to wait and see. Then you can probably talk about how you knew it all along but we’re doing what was best for MSU. Shit.

[Cowbell]

Bless yours.

I'm open to change, including at the HC level, if that what it takes, but I'll be damned if I root for failure.

He’s not rooting for failure - quit being a jack wagon - he’s projecting that we will fire joe just like you would probably project that we will lose to Bama next year.

[DogsofAnarchy]

Why not? Every man can learn. Every man can change thier commitment level. Time for our coach to grow up, now that he sees the level of actual effort it takes in the best league in the nation. I am pulling for him.

I absolutely get what your saying, and I agree, but his offense isnt going to work and even if we hire an OC, he is going to run Croomhead’s Offense. So what are the odds that works?

[NCDawg]

I hope Joe proves all of us wrong. I?ll be the first to eat crow. I will also ALWAYS pull for the dawgs and hope the coach succeeds. But that is different than making projections of where we are headed. Based on what we?ve seen in two seasons, there is no evidence that says we will move the football on offense or be a disciplined team going forward with this staff.

I agree with your post. I do think, however, that you should give consideration to changing your username. That guy did terrible things to the Southern people during the war.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

I chose that name when I thought the NCAA was going scorched earth on the sharks...a reference to ?Dixie burning down?

[MaroonFlounder]

As far as “dick moves?” I’m sure you’re more experienced with dick than I am.

So many of you are certain that next year will be a complete failure.

I'm not a Joe fan, but hope you're bad wrong.

I don't care about being right about anything. I just want MSU to do well.

I still think Joe is in play at BC, FWIW.

[MaroonFlounder]

He’s not rooting for failure - quit being a jack wagon - he’s projecting that we will fire joe just like you would probably project that we will lose to Bama next year.


My point remains. The entire team sluffed off this season after TutorGate happened. Then a shit ton of injuries and QB shuffle. It wasn't a level playing field at all.

[JoseBrown]

I like this OP. Post more, read less sir. I'm a read more, post less like you, but you should change like you've done here. Post away dude, I bleed maroon too. Everyday of my life from birth. I hate us losing ever. I just don't see this offense working like I think it could/should, and I don't think a staff shake up means an on the field change in the least. I am hoping to be wrong though!!

[MaroonFlounder]

I like this OP. Post more, read less sir. I'm a read more, post less like you, but you should change like you've done here. Post away dude, I bleed maroon too. Everyday of my life from birth. I hate us losing ever. I just don't see this offense working like I think it could/should, and I don't think a staff shake up means an on the field change in the least. I am hoping to be wrong though!!

Thanks.

If I thought Napier or Norvell would have come in here and lit the SEC on fire, I'd be the first to kick JoMo to the curb. I'm just doubtful that would happen. Most people on here think getting rid of Joe equals automatic contention in SEC West.

[Rex54]

Thanks.

If I thought Napier or Norvell would have come in here and lit the SEC on fire, I'd be the first to kick JoMo to the curb. I'm just doubtful that would happen. Most people on here think getting rid of Joe equals automatic contention in SEC West.

Napier could be a dud too, but we have evidence of his success and process at the D1 level. We have evidence of Moorhead killing an established program

[maroonmania]

Do you really think Moorhead is going to fix his short comings?

Yes, the Egg Bowl win already debunked the notion that he is not the right man for our program or that he can't coach in this league. Did you people not listen to the post-game presser? I can't believe many of you on this board still doubt Moorhead and the current trajectory of our program. Oh ye of little faith.*

[RoseHillDog]

Don't even bother to say Hail State at the end of your post. You're counting on the head coach to fail miserably next year?

1)Joe is changing up the staff.

2) He recruits better than Mullen.

3) There will be no 8-game suspensions next year.

He might still crash and burn, but counting on that to happen is a dick move.

What in two seasons shows you it will happen? The sec is to fast for Moorehead?s offense.

[MaroonFlounder]

What in two seasons shows you it will happen? The sec is to fast for Moorehead?s offense.

It's too fast for Napier's offense as well, I'd bet my mortgage on that.

[R2Dawg]

My point remains. The entire team sluffed off this season after TutorGate happened. Then a shit ton of injuries and QB shuffle. It wasn't a level playing field at all.

Why in the world would the whole team sluff off the season because of tutorgate? If that were true, we have a much worse culture under Joe than any have said. If they did sluff off, whose fault is that?

[Goldendawg]

Don't even bother to say Hail State at the end of your post. You're counting on the head coach to fail miserably next year?

1)Joe is changing up the staff.

2) He recruits better than Mullen.

3) There will be no 8-game suspensions next year.

He might still crash and burn, but counting on that to happen is a dick move.

I still do not understand using the 8 game tutorgate suspensions as an excuse. None of the 10 were starters or even contributors to our great offense. It was even more boring this year. Will never work at State against any D with a pulse.

[Goldendawg]

Yes, the Egg Bowl win already debunked the notion that he is not the right man for our program or that he can't coach in this league. Did you people not listen to the post-game presser? I can't believe many of you on this board still doubt Moorhead and the current trajectory of our program. Oh ye of little faith.*

You must not have been at the same game that I attended. We stomped a 4-7 team by 1 point on our field! If not for the stupidity of their NWO (Nasty Weird Outs), who knows what would have happened. I will be 65 in the spring and family has had season tickets 50 plus years. I no longer am satisfied with 6 wins against Kentucky, 4 duds, and UM. But, that seems to be all some State fans want and are happy with these days. Talk about under achieving and happy..

[maroonmania]

You must not have been at the same game that I attended. We stomped a 4-7 team by 1 point on our field! If not for the stupidity of their NWO (Nasty Weird Outs), who knows what would have happened. I will be 65 in the spring and family has had season tickets 50 plus years. I no longer am satisfied with 6 wins against Kentucky, 4 duds, and UM. But, that seems to be all some State fans want and are happy with these days. Talk about under achieving and happy..

Guess you missed the sarcasterik at the end of that post.

[DeputyDawg94]

Fellas....I?ve been reading this board since its inception. I?ve had a username for a while, but I have not been an active poster. I probably have more visits and refreshes to these pages than Shotgun has posts. I spend too much time reading and thinking about Mississippi State football. Instead of trying to correct my obsession, I?m joining the conversation with the rest of you idiots.

Regarding the sharks hiring Kiffin....I think it is a good hire for them. I think he will be a good coach. However, they are who they are. Their culture will ruin any chance they have to have prolonged success, regardless of who the coach is. The UM culture is as set in stone as the law of gravity. I know the people in the town of Oxford. They cannot change.What we need to do to remain true to our culture after Joe is fired next year, is to hire a tougher than hell coach. A coach that will recruit sons of bitches in the trenches. A coach that embraces the blue collar work ethic people?s university. If we do that, we will be fine. I enjoy the board. Let?s keep it going. Hail State!
Hail State! And kick rocks.