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Dawgfan77
11-30-2019, 07:41 PM
All I got right now but some wheels are moving

msstate7
11-30-2019, 07:42 PM
My man, I forgave you for the other day, but if you do this again, I will hunt you down and...ok, I'll just be internet mad

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 07:42 PM
I’m tapping out. LOL.

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 07:42 PM
Aww hell ... not again. If they are ... let's just wait until the presser on it sometime in the next month. Not dogging your info ... just sayin.

Cowbell
11-30-2019, 07:44 PM
All I got right now but some wheels are moving

There are some valuable alumni that were caught off guard today....sleeping giant awoke.

Dawgfan77
11-30-2019, 07:44 PM
Could be smoke and it ain?t us firing

deadheaddawg
11-30-2019, 07:44 PM
lol

TrapGame
11-30-2019, 07:45 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up.

mparkerfd20
11-30-2019, 07:46 PM
I'm out too. If anything comes of it I'll just wait til the presser.

msstate7
11-30-2019, 07:46 PM
Only Rutgers can save us now, and surely they aren't that dumb

shrimp
11-30-2019, 07:46 PM
My man, I forgave you for the other day, but if you do this again, I will hunt you down and...ok, I'll just be internet mad
LOL!

HereComesTheSpiral
11-30-2019, 07:47 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/3o6MbrMiDmusb37aGk/giphy.gif

Dawgfan77
11-30-2019, 07:47 PM
Don?t shoot the messenger

KOdawg1
11-30-2019, 07:47 PM
Stop giving me hope. I can't take it

chainedup_Dawg
11-30-2019, 07:47 PM
Just stop already. The bar has been set...beat 3 creampuffs, a shit East team and the worst SEC team in the last decade and beat a 4-8 rival and you're set man!!! You've earned that 3M!

shrimp
11-30-2019, 07:48 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up.
I am....cuz that's all I got!! #nomojoe

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 07:48 PM
Don?t shoot the messenger

We're cool ... just would rather for it to come out of the blue now, on TV, far and wide. I want a like "Holy Shit!!!" moment ... you know.

Rex54
11-30-2019, 07:49 PM
Keep sending those emails to Cohen! It’s working! Create new accounts and email email email!!!

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 07:49 PM
If you are playing us....well done!

If this happens, I will Venmo you money for a beer!

chef dixon
11-30-2019, 07:50 PM
Hey Rutgers.... you up???

hacker
11-30-2019, 07:53 PM
Just stop already. The bar has been set...beat 3 creampuffs, a shit East team and the worst SEC team in the last decade and beat a 4-8 rival and you're set man!!! You've earned that 3M!

For real! Bring back the guy that lost to South Alabama and struggled with UMass, Samford, and Miami (OH) in a 6-7 season!

vv83
11-30-2019, 07:54 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lnUXLQF.jpg

Walkerhill
11-30-2019, 07:55 PM
All I got right now but some wheels are moving

Can we please stop this?

dawg24
11-30-2019, 07:55 PM
don't do that. don't give me hope.

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 07:56 PM
Only Rutgers can save us now, and surely they aren't that dumb

I would have just fired him. Forget Rutgers helping us.

TimberBeast
11-30-2019, 07:56 PM
Can we please stop this?

I’m all for keeping it going, at least we can hope. That’s more than can be said for a moorhead coached football team.

msstate7
11-30-2019, 07:57 PM
For real! Bring back the guy that lost to South Alabama and struggled with UMass, Samford, and Miami (OH) in a 6-7 season!

Oh the one at Florida... while 80% are wanting RUTGERS to steal joe. Rutgers, smh...

Turfdawg67
11-30-2019, 07:57 PM
I?m tapping out. LOL.

I'm with you! Enough already. We've announced that he's staying for 2020, let it go. If he leaves/is fired in the next week, I'll ban myself until after the bowl game... if he stays, you and your sources do the same.

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 07:57 PM
For real! Bring back the guy that lost to South Alabama and struggled with UMass, Samford, and Miami (OH) in a 6-7 season!

I don’t like Dan but I don’t remember him ever calling out our fans. I might be wrong and have forgotten. But I’ll give him that.

msstate7
11-30-2019, 07:57 PM
I would have just fired him. Forget Rutgers helping us.

I would've too

bobcat91
11-30-2019, 07:58 PM
OMG. They are going to sell Dooeys at the games? The cigar boys rock!

Turfdawg67
11-30-2019, 07:58 PM
Clicks baby! Clicks!!

Jack Lambert
11-30-2019, 07:59 PM
Edited to say I took a blue pill 14 hours ago and I still have an erection. Screw calling the doctor. I am all in.

Dawgology
11-30-2019, 07:59 PM
Help us Rutgers. You’re our only hope.

Charlie_Sheen420
11-30-2019, 07:59 PM
All I got right now but some wheels are moving


https://youtu.be/DTc--4jz0GQ

Dawgfan77
11-30-2019, 08:00 PM
If I?m wrong I won?t post anymore info I get

Deal

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 08:01 PM
If I?m wrong I won?t post anymore info I get

Deal

You don't have a user id under jwells too do you?

vv83
11-30-2019, 08:02 PM
If I?m wrong I won?t post anymore info I get

Deal

Nah keep it coming. This at least gives me some glimmer of hope, albeit small

Cowbell
11-30-2019, 08:03 PM
Maybe we should delete every Moorehead bashing thread so that he likes like a new shiny car.

gtowndawg
11-30-2019, 08:03 PM
Ha ha! I won?t lie, I?m a sucker for it! Keep those rumors coming!

DownwardDawg
11-30-2019, 08:03 PM
Nah keep it coming. This at least gives me some glimmer of hope, albeit small

I agree. NO DEAL!!!!! We need hope, no matter how slight it is. Besides, how could anyone tell if you were wrong about talks continuing or deals being discussed. They may or may not work out!

msstate7
11-30-2019, 08:04 PM
Maybe we should delete every Moorehead bashing thread so that he likes like a new shiny car.

Please don't leave Joe! Please!

DeputyDawg94
11-30-2019, 08:04 PM
I?m past apathy. I?m at ?don?t give a flying holy f**k? at this point. Maybe you?re right. I hope you?re right. The roller coaster ride of the past few days has sucked the enjoyment of the win out of me. I?m done with hope until there is some hope.

Gutter Cobreh
11-30-2019, 08:04 PM
All I got right now but some wheels are moving

Makes perfect sense. We come out and say we support him and that he'll be here next year which negates Joe's press conference after the game. All the while, a landing spot for him pops up before Monday and he accepts. We get rid of a coach no one here wants, everyone saves face, and some other team gets the pathetic offense.


My man, I forgave you for the other day, but if you do this again, I will hunt you down and...ok, I'll just be internet mad

Hilarious!

Dawgology
11-30-2019, 08:05 PM
This time no one talk about who the new coach might be. JoMo might read it and demand more money. I’m assuming he thought we would go coachless next year. It’s basically impossible to replace an offensive guru like him.**

Bdawg
11-30-2019, 08:05 PM
I would have just fired him. Forget Rutgers helping us.

Was all this contingent on finding Moorhead a landing spot?

msstate7
11-30-2019, 08:06 PM
Watch Cohen get in a bidding war with Rutgers... we give joe 6 million a year.

chainedup_Dawg
11-30-2019, 08:06 PM
For real! Bring back the guy that lost to South Alabama and struggled with UMass, Samford, and Miami (OH) in a 6-7 season!

#1 I didnt mention Dan. #2 I was pissed at him that year too. #3 that team was AT LEAST COMPETITIVE in every game outside of Bama and a little of Auburn. Another thing, that team was far more physical and disciplined than what we have watched this year.

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-30-2019, 08:07 PM
Here's the thing: you'll have zero sources at any northern program, which means the only way a "source" would know there's interest in JoMo is if they've contacted us about him. Which means, IF they actually want Joe and aren't just feeling him out, some insiders from that program will be leaking it. you know what that means, right?

TIME TO SCOUR EVERY RUTGERS AND BC MESSAGE BOARD COMMENT!!!! I nominate Liver and everyone else we wish would shut up around here for a minute

Cowbell
11-30-2019, 08:08 PM
If I?m wrong I won?t post anymore info I get

Deal

Forget those guys!

Are the emails working or is this completely separate?

DeputyDawg94
11-30-2019, 08:08 PM
This time no one talk about who the new coach might be. JoMo might read it and demand more money. I’m assuming he thought we would go coachless next year. It’s basically impossible to replace an offensive guru like him.**

Man naw! I bet Crime Dog McGriff can get the same offensive output joe can.

bobtail bob
11-30-2019, 08:10 PM
Help us Rutgers. You?re our only hope.

Nobody wants this full of hot air loser.

Turfdawg67
11-30-2019, 08:11 PM
How positive are we that the OP ain't a rebel bearshark? Over here from Moofan stirring sh*t up?

gtowndawg
11-30-2019, 08:11 PM
As Jerry Clower once said ?shoot up here amongst us, one of us needs some relief?

OLJWales
11-30-2019, 08:12 PM
We dont need Rutgers help to do the right thing for MSU. That's deep bullshit.

mparkerfd20
11-30-2019, 08:15 PM
We dont need Rutgers help to do the right thing for MSU. That's deep bullshit.
Obviously we do because our Cigar Boys are dumbasses!

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 08:15 PM
We dont need Rutgers help to do the right thing for MSU. That's deep bullshit.

I mean... based off of all the reports from today, we kinda do need their help apparently.

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 08:17 PM
I emailed John earlier today. If a ton of us are maybe it works. Doubtful but you never know

vv83
11-30-2019, 08:19 PM
Also, if were doing far fetched conspiracy theories, ULL not looking too sharp right now. Billy's head must already be in Starkville

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 08:20 PM
I'm with you! Enough already. We've announced that he's staying for 2020, let it go. If he leaves/is fired in the next week, I'll ban myself until after the bowl game... if he stays, you and your sources do the same.

I don’t care about people banning themselves or whatever.

TheLostDawg
11-30-2019, 08:20 PM
Had to be those personal emails to Cohen y'all sent.

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 08:22 PM
I mean... based off of all the reports from today, we kinda do need their help apparently.

We have the leverage. We may not have the balls to use it but we really could fire him if we wanted to.

I would have told him- you want your full buyout? OK. We’ll fire you.

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 08:22 PM
I emailed John earlier today. If a ton of us are maybe it works. Doubtful but you never know

That’s part of the problem. He doesn’t care about us.

msbulldog
11-30-2019, 08:24 PM
Boy wouldn't if be something if IB put this out there through RoseBowl without coordinating with the all the big boy and their not happy.

Dawgfan77
11-30-2019, 08:25 PM
How positive are we that the OP ain't a rebel bearshark? Over here from Moofan stirring sh*t up?
I?m not a rebel! Jesus. I bring shit here and I?m labeled. 17 you dude.

Everything I bring is validated by insiders on this board. Don?t like it fine. But I?m all dawg.

If nothing happens i will stop posting what I hear but here?s the deal I?m connected and I know shit. Don?t believe me fine. But everything I brought to the board was confirmed.

Homedawg
11-30-2019, 08:26 PM
For real! Bring back the guy that lost to South Alabama and struggled with UMass, Samford, and Miami (OH) in a 6-7 season!

What a douche. Jomo has lost more games in 2 seasons as a 6 pt favorite than dan did in his entire tenure. But carry on w your ignorance. Thanks

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 08:27 PM
Boy wouldn't if be something if IB put this out there through RoseBowl without coordinating with the all the big boy and their not happy.

That’s a good way to get your ass in trouble if you are an AD. And based on his baseball searches very possible.

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 08:28 PM
I?m not a rebel! Jesus. I bring shit here and I?m labeled. 17 you dude.

Everything I bring is validated by insiders on this board. Don?t like it fine. But I?m all dawg.

If nothing happens i will stop posting what I hear but here?s the deal I?m connected and I know shit. Don?t believe me fine. But everything I brought to the board was confirmed.

Keep doing you, man. Screw the haters. I'm so bummed that he's supposedly staying, I welcome any rumors or conspiracies to the contrary.

vv83
11-30-2019, 08:30 PM
Keep doing you, man. Screw the haters. I'm so bummed that he's supposedly staying, I welcome any rumors or conspiracies to the contrary.

Yep, would appreciate any other updates you have as they come in as well.

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 08:31 PM
Keep doing you, man. Screw the haters. I'm so bummed that he's supposedly staying, I welcome any rumors or conspiracies to the contrary.

Absolutely. Keep the info coming. I would love to check this board in a while and see some good news.

Dogfight
11-30-2019, 08:31 PM
All I got right now but some wheels are moving

But I want to jump and scream ?yes, he?s gone!?

Skydawg1
11-30-2019, 08:32 PM
Can't we just get Nick and be done with all this nonsense?

Really Clark?
11-30-2019, 08:32 PM
I?m not a rebel! Jesus. I bring shit here and I?m labeled. 17 you dude.

Everything I bring is validated by insiders on this board. Don?t like it fine. But I?m all dawg.

If nothing happens i will stop posting what I hear but here?s the deal I?m connected and I know shit. Don?t believe me fine. But everything I brought to the board was confirmed.

Yeah! You Rebel! You have only been here 6 years and have less than 2,000 posts.*** Keep doing you and ignore that stuff

fader2103
11-30-2019, 08:34 PM
Spill the info. Quit with this wheel in motion shit

msstatelp1
11-30-2019, 08:35 PM
Keep doing you, man. Screw the haters. I'm so bummed that he's supposedly staying, I welcome any rumors or conspiracies to the contrary.

This. The past couple of.days have been the most entertaining days on the board in a while.

DeputyDawg94
11-30-2019, 08:37 PM
I emailed John earlier today. If a ton of us are maybe it works. Doubtful but you never know
Me to. Nothing ugly or stupid. Just expressed my concerns. Probably didn’t do any good but it was the only option. They ain’t gonna let us all walk into his office.

Walkerhill
11-30-2019, 08:37 PM
I?m not a rebel! Jesus. I bring shit here and I?m labeled. 17 you dude.

Everything I bring is validated by insiders on this board. Don?t like it fine. But I?m all dawg.

If nothing happens i will stop posting what I hear but here?s the deal I?m connected and I know shit. Don?t believe me fine. But everything I brought to the board was confirmed.

I appreciate the info, man. Keep sharing.

msu15
11-30-2019, 08:37 PM
Me to. Nothing ugly or stupid. Just expressed my concerns.

Same

sandjunky
11-30-2019, 08:38 PM
Yeah! You Rebel! You have only been here 6 years and have less than 2,000 posts.*** Keep doing you and ignore that stuff

Hey I resemble that comment....second sentence that is

Charlie_Sheen420
11-30-2019, 08:39 PM
Spill the info. Quit with this wheel in motion shit

That’s just it, he has none...everyone posting in here holding out hope is just feeding this dude to post more bs

Rex54
11-30-2019, 08:40 PM
If wheels are in motion you, yes YOU, dear reader can help grease the skids by emailing our AD and politely, respectfully, voice your displeasure at the state of the program and your sincere hope that a change is made

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 08:43 PM
After thinking on it some ... I was sitting pretty tight when the OP started this thread ****

Turfdawg67
11-30-2019, 08:43 PM
I don?t care about people banning themselves or whatever.

That was meant for the OP, not you... sorry.

StoneDawg
11-30-2019, 08:43 PM
17 that Mo****fu****

JNC23
11-30-2019, 08:45 PM
curious where 34/Commerce/Ari/IYOK are on this recent development

War Machine Dawg
11-30-2019, 08:47 PM
I?m not a rebel! Jesus. I bring shit here and I?m labeled. 17 you dude.

Everything I bring is validated by insiders on this board. Don?t like it fine. But I?m all dawg.

If nothing happens i will stop posting what I hear but here?s the deal I?m connected and I know shit. Don?t believe me fine. But everything I brought to the board was confirmed.

Dude, keep it coming. No reason to ban yourself. Don't let a few douches upset you. It's a message board, everyone should understand rumors posted may or may not be true. That's literally the entire point of a message board.

Cowbell
11-30-2019, 08:47 PM
curious where 34/Commerce/Ari/IYOK are on this recent development

Ari hasn’t been here since Thursday when he made some guarantees...

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 08:49 PM
Here's what I would like to happen. We know nor suspect nothing. Then sometime this week there's a new conference and Cohen start it out like this ..

"I would like to present the Bulldog family an early Christmas present. Joe has accepted the Rutgers/Boston College/Little Sisters for the Poor job. Additionally, as a Christmas stocking stuffer I would like to present Billy Napier as the new MSU HC".

NeuteredDawg
11-30-2019, 08:51 PM
Ari hasn’t been here since Thursday when he made some guarantees...

He lost all credibility with me after he basically guaranteed Kelly Bryant was coming to State. Another know nothing.

Turfdawg67
11-30-2019, 08:52 PM
Ari hasn’t been here since Thursday when he made some guarantees...

Man... 17 you. Rumors and guarantees are welcome here. The gullible need their fix. ****

Commercecomet24
11-30-2019, 08:52 PM
curious where 34/Commerce/Ari/IYOK are on this recent development

Just waiting and watching. I don't have any idea where the trains headed now. It's a mess

DDawg
11-30-2019, 08:52 PM
I’m glad someone started this thread so I didn’t have to.

This is a burner account for me, I can’t post what I’m about to because if I was doing it on my normal (8000+ post) account I would be risking the family connections I have as many people here know me personally and understand what I mean.

Rose bowl was correct that IB and Morevester met for a couple hours today, however he was wrong REAL wrong about the outcome of that meeting. After his tweet, many big shots in the cigar boys club who were already riled up about the post game interview met their breaking point and let it be known. I know for a fact one donor vowed to stop his 6 figure donations until the savant was gone.

Long story short. Moorhead was given an ultimatum that while you are the coach as of now, lets just say there’s a man down in Louisiana who may be having a big press conference of his own once they finish up their championship game....

Cowbell
11-30-2019, 08:54 PM
Just waiting and watching. I don't have any idea where the trains headed now. It's a mess

CC, do you think there has been more pushback than Cohen/keenum expected?

NeuteredDawg
11-30-2019, 08:54 PM
Burner account yet no names. All BS

TrapGame
11-30-2019, 08:55 PM
Here's what I would like to happen. We know nor suspect nothing. Then sometime this week there's a new conference and Cohen start it out like this ..

"I would like to present the Bulldog family an early Christmas present. Joe has accepted the Rutgers/Boston College/Little Sisters for the Poor job. Additionally, as a Christmas stocking stuffer I would like to present Billy Napier as the new MSU HC".

It's not far fetched that Joe takes another job back up north. He's not happy here. I don't give a frag what somebody says. He was ready to leave. So it won't surprise me if by midweek we start hearing some serious rumblings about Rutgers. He doesn't want to be here.

gtowndawg
11-30-2019, 08:55 PM
I’m glad someone started this thread so I didn’t have to.

This is a burner account for me, I can’t post what I’m about to because if I was doing it on my normal (8000+ post) account I would be risking the family connections I have as many people here know me personally and understand what I mean.

Rose bowl was correct that IB and Morevester met for a couple hours today, however he was wrong REAL wrong about the outcome of that meeting. After his tweet, many big shots in the cigar boys club who were already riled up about the post game interview met their breaking point and let it be known. I know for a fact one donor vowed to stop his 6 figure donations until the savant was gone.

Long story short. Moorhead was given an ultimatum that while you are the coach as of now, lets just say there’s a man down in Louisiana who may be having a big press conference of his own once they finish up their championship game....

This is getting better than a John Grisham novel.

DownwardDawg
11-30-2019, 08:56 PM
Just waiting and watching. I don't have any idea where the trains headed now. It's a mess

It does seem like its a real mess.

Mjoelner34
11-30-2019, 08:57 PM
Damn I love this! Its better than the X-Files!

TrapGame
11-30-2019, 08:58 PM
Just waiting and watching. I don't have any idea where the trains headed now. It's a mess

Wow. This is a huge cluster.

CovertDawg
11-30-2019, 08:58 PM
I’m glad someone started this thread so I didn’t have to.

This is a burner account for me, I can’t post what I’m about to because if I was doing it on my normal (8000+ post) account I would be risking the family connections I have as many people here know me personally and understand what I mean.

Rose bowl was correct that IB and Morevester met for a couple hours today, however he was wrong REAL wrong about the outcome of that meeting. After his tweet, many big shots in the cigar boys club who were already riled up about the post game interview met their breaking point and let it be known. I know for a fact one donor vowed to stop his 6 figure donations until the savant was gone.

Long story short. Moorhead was given an ultimatum that while you are the coach as of now, lets just say there’s a man down in Louisiana who may be having a big press conference of his own once they finish up their championship game....

Sorry, but 6 figure donations don't move the needle. I know several couples that give 6 figures annually and cheer for their Bulldogs.... and don't try to call the shots. There are much more of these people than you think.

Turfdawg67
11-30-2019, 08:58 PM
This is getting better than a John Grisham novel.

9 posts and most on here be like...

https://i.postimg.cc/NFN9fqWx/A823-A600-9-A8-D-4-E36-8-EF8-E31-DEDEF1-EA2.gif

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 08:58 PM
It's not far fetched that Joe takes another job back up north. He's not happy here. I don't give a frag what somebody says. He was ready to leave. So it won't surprise me if by midweek we start hearing some serious rumblings about Rutgers. He doesn't want to be here.

I dunno about the job but if someone tells me they know for sure that Joe's happy here ... I'll just tell them I think they're full of shit LOL.

Rex54
11-30-2019, 08:58 PM
Excellent news DDawg!!! Don’t relent fellas, we here in the lowly hookah and vape club, while not on the cigar level, can help push this over the top. Email email email John cohen. Polite, respectful, but firm. “He stays, I go”. Create multiple email addresses and fill that inbox up Up UP!! It’s your duty.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/002/872/i-want-you-giwy.jpg

DownwardDawg
11-30-2019, 08:59 PM
Damn I love this! Its better than the X-Files!

It’s awesome!!!! Even if it doesn’t happen, at least I’m excited again tonight!!!!! It’s like a great book! Hope!!!!!

msstate7
11-30-2019, 09:01 PM
Sorry, but 6 figure donations don't move the needle. I know several couples that give 6 figures annually and cheer for their Bulldogs.... and don't try to call the shots. There are much more of these people than you think.

6 figures is 100,000 to 999,999. You telling me someone giving say $750,000 a year has no pull?

Really Clark?
11-30-2019, 09:01 PM
Ari hasn?t been here since Thursday when he made some guarantees...

He has posted yesterday and today

DDawg
11-30-2019, 09:02 PM
Sorry, but 6 figure donations don't move the needle. I know several couples that give 6 figures annually and cheer for their Bulldogs.... and don't try to call the shots. There are much more of these people than you think.

I agree 100% I know many who give MUCH more. However, this aforementioned donor is the only one who I?ve spoken to since the tweet this afternoon. Believe me, this thing has snowballed ever since then for better or worse.

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 09:02 PM
I’m glad someone started this thread so I didn’t have to.

This is a burner account for me, I can’t post what I’m about to because if I was doing it on my normal (8000+ post) account I would be risking the family connections I have as many people here know me personally and understand what I mean.

Rose bowl was correct that IB and Morevester met for a couple hours today, however he was wrong REAL wrong about the outcome of that meeting. After his tweet, many big shots in the cigar boys club who were already riled up about the post game interview met their breaking point and let it be known. I know for a fact one donor vowed to stop his 6 figure donations until the savant was gone.

Long story short. Moorhead was given an ultimatum that while you are the coach as of now, lets just say there’s a man down in Louisiana who may be having a big press conference of his own once they finish up their championship game....

Hahaha this is the stuff I get on message boards for. If we're going to have Faux sources, let's mix some burner accounts in as well. Inject this stuff into my veins. Whatever entertains to take away the thought of another year of Joe for a little while longer

CovertDawg
11-30-2019, 09:03 PM
Not enough to call the shot on a head coach.


6 figures is 100,000 to 999,999. You telling me someone giving say $750,000 a year has no pull?

TrapGame
11-30-2019, 09:03 PM
6 figures is 100,000 to 999,999. You telling me someone giving say $750,000 a year has no pull?

After enough pissed off boosters of this level stop giving it will hurt. And I think that's the problem Cohen/Keenum are facing now. The lesser boosters are in an uproar.

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 09:05 PM
I?m glad someone started this thread so I didn?t have to.

This is a burner account for me, I can?t post what I?m about to because if I was doing it on my normal (8000+ post) account I would be risking the family connections I have as many people here know me personally and understand what I mean.

Rose bowl was correct that IB and Morevester met for a couple hours today, however he was wrong REAL wrong about the outcome of that meeting. After his tweet, many big shots in the cigar boys club who were already riled up about the post game interview met their breaking point and let it be known. I know for a fact one donor vowed to stop his 6 figure donations until the savant was gone.

Long story short. Moorhead was given an ultimatum that while you are the coach as of now, lets just say there?s a man down in Louisiana who may be having a big press conference of his own once they finish up their championship game....

What can Joe screw up between now and the Sun Belt Championship Game? Have another disrespectful and shitty press conference?

Commercecomet24
11-30-2019, 09:06 PM
Wow. This is a huge cluster.

Yep that's exactly the word used in some texts I got yesterday and that's exactly what it is. And we all laughed at Tennessee about their coaching search. We said hey ut hold my beer

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 09:06 PM
After enough pissed off boosters of this level stop giving it will hurt. And I think that's the problem Cohen/Keenum are facing now. The lesser boosters are in an uproar.

Those little boosters all add up. That’s a big chunk of their budget.

BrunswickDawg
11-30-2019, 09:07 PM
This is getting better than a John Grisham novel.

John Grisham - another alum we pissed off because we are are dumbasses....

vv83
11-30-2019, 09:08 PM
Yep that's exactly the word used in some texts I got yesterday and that's exactly what it is. And we all laughed at Tennessee about their coaching search. We said hey ut hold my beer

What’s the latest update you’re heard?

Commercecomet24
11-30-2019, 09:08 PM
At this point we could hire Larry Coker and I wouldn't be shocked at all lol

War Machine Dawg
11-30-2019, 09:08 PM
Hahaha this is the stuff I get on message boards for. If we're going to have Faux sources, let's mix some burner accounts in as well. Inject this stuff into my veins. Whatever entertains to take away the thought of another year of Joe for a little while longer

Right there with ya, CD. Most entertaining ED has been in a while. I can't deal with the thought of Moor Shitshow 2020.

DownwardDawg
11-30-2019, 09:08 PM
Hahaha this is the stuff I get on message boards for. If we're going to have Faux sources, let's mix some burner accounts in as well. Inject this stuff into my veins. Whatever entertains to take away the thought of another year of Joe for a little while longer

I’m with you 100% brother!!!!!!

gtowndawg
11-30-2019, 09:09 PM
John Grisham - another alum we pissed off because we are are dumbasses....

True. Freudian slip I suppose.

DDawg
11-30-2019, 09:09 PM
What can Joe screw up between now and the Sun Belt Championship Game? Have another disrespectful and shitty press conference?

I really cannot say too much more, but let’s just say there were some agreements that experienced material changes after JoMO gave his Yankee ass presser.

Rose bowl jumped the gun on that tweet. The full story is yet to be revealed, be expecting something within next 1-2 weeks.

deadheaddawg
11-30-2019, 09:09 PM
I?m not a rebel! Jesus. I bring shit here and I?m labeled. 17 you dude.

Everything I bring is validated by insiders on this board. Don?t like it fine. But I?m all dawg.

If nothing happens i will stop posting what I hear but here?s the deal I?m connected and I know shit. Don?t believe me fine. But everything I brought to the board was confirmed.

When you say confirmed what do you mean? By other people who heard the same rumors?

Or was it actually confirmed? Can you link this confirmation?

A bunch of people "hearing the same thing" is not a confirmation. The insiders here are just repeating rumors. I would love actual confirmation though, so if you have someone in the athletic department confirming something please link it up

Commercecomet24
11-30-2019, 09:09 PM
What’s the latest update you’re heard?

That we 17 this up lol. I have no idea on this latest rumor see my above post about Larry Coker lol.

DownwardDawg
11-30-2019, 09:09 PM
At this point we could hire Larry Coker and I wouldn't be shocked at all lol

I would take chizik tonight.

DownwardDawg
11-30-2019, 09:11 PM
I really cannot say too much more, but let’s just say there were some agreements that experienced material changes after JoMO gave his Yankee ass presser.

Rose bowl jumped the gun on that tweet. The full story is yet to be revealed, be expecting something within next 1-2 weeks.

That sounds like good news to me.

SandlotDawg
11-30-2019, 09:11 PM
So for shits and giggles here, say we actually do reverse course on Moorehead, then we’ve essentially screwed ourselves with Napier right? No way he comes to a school so inept. I tell ya this is sad yet also very entertaining. Bring on more drama.

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 09:12 PM
Yep that's exactly the word used in some texts I got yesterday and that's exactly what it is. And we all laughed at Tennessee about their coaching search. We said hey ut hold my beer

This is pretty much why I get a little pissed at our fans when they start laughing at other programs being clusters, especially somewhat bluebloods saying they will never get back to our par. Really?

We're quite capable putting on our own shit show ... as we have shown many times in the past.

We don't need to take it for granted when we are doing well.

bulldawg28
11-30-2019, 09:12 PM
"Like sands through the hourglass so are the days of ED!"

CovertDawg
11-30-2019, 09:12 PM
I really cannot say too much more, but let?s just say there were some agreements that experienced material changes after JoMO gave his Yankee ass presser.

Rose bowl jumped the gun on that tweet. The full story is yet to be revealed, be expecting something within next 1-2 weeks.

With the December signing day, no way anything takes one to two weeks.

Commercecomet24
11-30-2019, 09:13 PM
This is pretty much why I get a little pissed at our fans when they start laughing at other programs being clusters, especially somewhat bluebloods saying they will never get back to our par. Really?

We're quite capable putting on our own shit show ... as we have shown many times in the past.

We don't need to take it for granted when we are doing well.

Yep have some rep

War Machine Dawg
11-30-2019, 09:13 PM
So for shits and giggles here, say we actually do reverse course on Moorehead, then we’ve essentially screwed ourselves with Napier right? No way he comes to a school so inept. I tell ya this is sad yet also very entertaining. Bring on Moor Drama.

FIFY

Rex54
11-30-2019, 09:15 PM
So for shits and giggles here, say we actually do reverse course on Moorehead, then we’ve essentially screwed ourselves with Napier right? No way he comes to a school so inept. I tell ya this is sad yet also very entertaining. Bring on more drama.

He’d crawl over broken glass to coach here. MANY would.

At the end of the day no matter what we have Hud up our sleeve.

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 09:17 PM
So for shits and giggles here, say we actually do reverse course on Moorehead, then we’ve essentially screwed ourselves with Napier right? No way he comes to a school so inept. I tell ya this is sad yet also very entertaining. Bring on more drama.

Rick Ray here we come.

Commercecomet24
11-30-2019, 09:17 PM
Heck at this point I'm expecting Cohen and joe to switch jobs

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 09:17 PM
Heck at this point I'm expecting Cohen and joe to switch jobs

John would probably do better

SandlotDawg
11-30-2019, 09:18 PM
He’d crawl over broken glass to coach here. MANY would.

At the end of the day no matter what we have Hud up our sleeve.

Hud must be that girl you kept around during college that was always available for an entertaining night but you never kept her too close. Poor guy

Dawgtini
11-30-2019, 09:18 PM
Heck at this point I'm expecting Cohen and joe to switch jobs

lol #vomit

Dawgology
11-30-2019, 09:18 PM
When you say confirmed what do you mean? By other people who heard the same rumors?

Or was it actually confirmed? Can you link this confirmation?

A bunch of people "hearing the same thing" is not a confirmation. The insiders here are just repeating rumors. I would love actual confirmation though, so if you have someone in the athletic department confirming something please link it up

Lulz. Yeah he will give us the name of the guy who has been giving him info. Maybe even the guys phone number so you can call and check for yourself.**

Really Clark?
11-30-2019, 09:20 PM
Hud must be that girl you kept around during college that was always available for an entertaining night but you never kept her too close. Poor guy

He didn’t type Hud..He’d is what was typed

Apoplectic
11-30-2019, 09:22 PM
Heck at this point I'm expecting Cohen and joe to switch jobs

Joe would probably do better

DDawg
11-30-2019, 09:23 PM
Hud must be that girl you kept around during college that was always available for an entertaining night but you never kept her too close. Poor guy

Hud is out and was never really in discussions to begin with, many felt he?d actually be a step back rather than forwards. Mediocre at LA, his only pro was being a ?local?.

As talks progressed before slowing. A shadow candidate emerged who is currently a coordinator at a program in the Carolinas that I feel would be a HOMERUN hire.

It?s true Joe is out of the fire after that win but his presser put him a lot further back in the woods than he could have ever anticipated.

SandlotDawg
11-30-2019, 09:23 PM
He didn’t type Hud..He’d is what was typed

Read his post again

KB21
11-30-2019, 09:23 PM
#1 I didnt mention Dan. #2 I was pissed at him that year too. #3 that team was AT LEAST COMPETITIVE in every game outside of Bama and a little of Auburn. Another thing, that team was far more physical and disciplined than what we have watched this year.

Also, 2014 earned Dan the right to have one down season and not get fired. The fact is, this team won at least 8 games in 3 of Dan?s last 4 years on campus.

Commercecomet24
11-30-2019, 09:24 PM
Compared to this cluster the baseball HC hire was smooth as butter

SandlotDawg
11-30-2019, 09:26 PM
Compared to this cluster the baseball HC hire was smooth as butter

Commerce any way you can give full on details of how 17’d this thing is?

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 09:26 PM
Also, 2014 earned Dan the right to have one down season and not get fired. The fact is, this team won at least 8 games in 3 of Dan?s last 4 years on campus.

And the team he left behind won 8 too with only a D coordinator and staff doing any coaching.

KB21
11-30-2019, 09:29 PM
And the team he left behind won 8 too with only a D coordinator and staff doing any coaching.

We would have been much better off had we just promoted Todd Grantham from within. We would have at least maintained our culture and physicality.

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 09:30 PM
We would have been much better off had we just promoted Todd Grantham from within. We would have at least maintained our culture and physicality.

No argument here.

RocketDawg
11-30-2019, 09:31 PM
Compared to this cluster the baseball HC hire was smooth as butter

Joe hasn't been fired nor has he left, so technically, there has been no football HC search.

Really Clark?
11-30-2019, 09:31 PM
Read his post again

Gotcha

DDawg
11-30-2019, 09:32 PM
We would have been much better off had we just promoted Todd Grantham from within. We would have at least maintained our culture and physicality.

Don?t think for a second it wasn?t discussed. However, some in the decision making process felt their were character concerns with Grantham that would stifle his ability to recruit as a HC and be the face of our program.

defiantdog
11-30-2019, 09:33 PM
Hate to break it to some of y'all but the big time money givers aren't as vocal as they once were. But there are a few that I can count on one hand that are very vocal.

Turfdawg67
11-30-2019, 09:38 PM
I really cannot say too much more, but let?s just say there were some agreements that experienced material changes after JoMO gave his Yankee ass presser.

Rose bowl jumped the gun on that tweet. The full story is yet to be revealed, be expecting something within next 1-2 weeks.

Right before early signing period, eh? Got it! Makes sense.

DDawg
11-30-2019, 09:40 PM
Right before early signing period, eh? Got it! Makes sense.

Dont assume its something that would negatively affect early signing period...

KB21
11-30-2019, 09:40 PM
Don?t think for a second it wasn?t discussed. However, some in the decision making process felt their were character concerns with Grantham that would stifle his ability to recruit as a HC and be the face of our program.

I think this can be translated into, “He’s a bit rough around the edges and tells it like it is too much.”

Jacksondevildog
11-30-2019, 09:42 PM
The early signing period doesn?t matter when you have a bad coach. You sign a potentially better coach that can make the players and team better. It isn?t that hard.

ILOATHEBears
11-30-2019, 09:42 PM
Right before early signing period, eh? Got it! Makes sense.

You know reading all these threads each with anticipation of news of a change is about as entertaining as the ?ITS COMING? threads back in the day

Liverpooldawg
11-30-2019, 09:43 PM
Right before early signing period, eh? Got it! Makes sense.

Yeah, let's make a move right before that. If we do that Cohen really DOES need to go. F you are going to do it you do it NOW.

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-30-2019, 09:43 PM
Hud is out and was never really in discussions to begin with, many felt he?d actually be a step back rather than forwards. Mediocre at LA, his only pro was being a ?local?.

As talks progressed before slowing. A shadow candidate emerged who is currently a coordinator at a program in the Carolinas that I feel would be a HOMERUN hire.

It?s true Joe is out of the fire after that win but his presser put him a lot further back in the woods than he could have ever anticipated.

Better not be talking about Clemsons' OC or DC because those guys 'aint leaving and better program than us have tried

Liverpooldawg
11-30-2019, 09:43 PM
The early signing period doesn?t matter when you have a bad coach. You sign a potentially better coach that can make the players and team better. It isn?t that hard.

Nope.

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 09:44 PM
The early signing period doesn?t matter when you have a bad coach. You sign a potentially better coach that can make the players and team better. It isn?t that hard.

This! I mean, Joe lost 5 games with top NFL talent. Who cares what HS players he gets if he can’t help them get better?

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 09:44 PM
The early signing period doesn?t matter when you have a bad coach. You sign a potentially better coach that can make the players and team better. It isn?t that hard.

This! I mean, Joe lost 5 games with top NFL talent. Who cares what HS players he gets if he can?t help them get better?

HailStateSZN19
11-30-2019, 09:44 PM
No offense to anyone and appreciate those who have legit sources bringing info here but I’ll believe this when I see it. I fell for this too much the first go around and got to excited and got my hopes up.

Turfdawg67
11-30-2019, 09:45 PM
The early signing period doesn?t matter when you have a bad coach. You sign a potentially better coach that can make the players and team better. It isn?t that hard.

The players that are committed now are committed to a Joe Moorhead coached team. You think we make a coaching change 4 days before signing day we will keep all those guys? You're out of your mind.

Cowbell
11-30-2019, 09:45 PM
Dont assume its something that would negatively affect early signing period...

Anything us blue collar boosters can do to help move the needle? I mean, my brother, who played at OM, text me the news first (rosebowl) and said he felt like they really won the egg bowl after all....

msstate7
11-30-2019, 09:46 PM
The players that are committed now are committed to a Joe Moorhead coached team. You think we make a coaching change 4 days before signing day we will keep all those guys? You're out of your mind.

Who cares? Having the correct coach is infinitely more important

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-30-2019, 09:46 PM
Nope.

Liver my problem with you is that you don't explain yourself. You just state things as if "Nope" is adding to the conversation or going to change anyone's mind. Enunciate stuff like this or don't post

in the their thread it was like pulling teeth to get you to say why you felt keeping moorhead was best, and even then I still can't get you to answer my questions about you logic on Napier not wanting the job if we fired Joe. If you're so confident in your position then tell us the logic you used to get there

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 09:47 PM
The players that are committed now are committed to a Joe Moorhead coached team. You think we make a coaching change 4 days before signing day we will keep all those guys? You're out of your mind.

Of course we wouldnt, he's saying you don't keep a coach for a recruiting class. If the coach sucks, it doesn't matter what recruits he gets. Get the coaching situation fixed first and foremost, regardless of what it does to recruiting.

Turfdawg67
11-30-2019, 09:47 PM
No offense to anyone and appreciate those who have legit sources bringing info here but I’ll believe this when I see it. I fell for this too much the first go around and got to excited and got my hopes up.


Yep. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 47 times, I'm a gullible dumb ass. I'm done.

Cowbell
11-30-2019, 09:48 PM
Nope.

LP, did you ever play competitive American football at a level higher than jv?

TrapGame
11-30-2019, 09:48 PM
Of course we would, he's saying you don't keep a coach for a recruiting class. If the coach sucks, it doesn't matter what recruits he gets. Get the coaching situation fixed first and foremost, regardless of what it does to recruiting.

Butch Jones says hello.

OLJWales
11-30-2019, 09:49 PM
Sorry, but 6 figure donations don't move the needle. I know several couples that give 6 figures annually and cheer for their Bulldogs.... and don't try to call the shots. There are much more of these people than you think.

That sounds sound. I believe no competitive P5 program survives without their cigar boys. Like it or not, we have to depend on them shoving their money in the right places. It's just the way the real world works.

Cowbell
11-30-2019, 09:49 PM
Of course we wouldnt, he's saying you don't keep a coach for a recruiting class. If the coach sucks, it doesn't matter what recruits he gets. Get the coaching situation fixed first and foremost, regardless of what it does to recruiting.

Rep given

DDawg
11-30-2019, 09:50 PM
Better not be talking about Clemsons' OC or DC because those guys 'aint leaving and better program than us have tried

Nope, Defensive minded guy born and played college ball in Louisiana who has been in Carolina for a couple of years and comes from a pretty well respected coaching tree. Name really came out of nowhere, but to me would really make a splash however I'm not sure that he is still in the picture after what has transpired.

Lord McBuckethead
11-30-2019, 09:54 PM
Who cares? Having the correct coach is infinitely more important

You could just make the change 10 days from now.

Homedawg
11-30-2019, 09:56 PM
Who cares? Having the correct coach is infinitely more important

And who says they are all gonna sign?? If that falls apart oh boy. And with that said, we have ONE guy, one who is from an out of state high school committed. One. Thought he was the recruiting guru.... I've said it once and I'll say it again, this staff works harder than the last staff at recruiting. Show me some difference in results. I've seen the difference in coaching

War Machine Dawg
11-30-2019, 09:58 PM
Nope, Defensive minded guy born and played college ball in Louisiana who has been in Carolina for a couple of years and comes from a pretty well respected coaching tree. Name really came out of nowhere, but to me would really make a splash however I'm not sure that he is still in the picture after what has transpired.

If we go the coordinator route AGAIN after Moor Inability to Score, we are idiots. Especially if Napier still wants the job or by some miracle we could pull Norvell, although I think Norvell is more likely destined for FSU.

HoopsDawg
11-30-2019, 10:02 PM
And who says they are all gonna sign?? If that falls apart oh boy. And with that said, we have ONE guy, one who is from an out of state high school committed. One. Thought he was the recruiting guru.... I've said it once and I'll say it again, this staff works harder than the last staff at recruiting. Show me some difference in results. I've seen the difference in coaching

Let's just be honest, this current recruiting class is not that great. We need to stop pretending like it is.

DDawg
11-30-2019, 10:03 PM
If we go the coordinator route AGAIN after Moor Inability to Score, we are idiots. Especially if Napier still wants the job or by some miracle we could pull Norvell, although I think Norvell is more likely destined for FSU.

Let me tell you, this is a guy who would be a coming from a major role. Has been wanting to get back into college for a while and would have 100 times the impact of Napier OR Norvell. However, there would be more questions with his hire than those two but it was a very interesting candidate to be thrown into the mix. Apparently, he has a close personal connection with someone inside the athletic department who gauged his interest which there was alot more than they could have anticipated.

Bdawg
11-30-2019, 10:04 PM
That we 17 this up lol. I have no idea on this latest rumor see my above post about Larry Coker lol.

What's the biggest screw up? That we beat OM and Moorhead went stupid in the presser?

Homedawg
11-30-2019, 10:05 PM
Let's just be honest, this current recruiting class is not that great. We need to stop pretending like it is.

My point

DDawg
11-30-2019, 10:06 PM
Let's just be honest, this current recruiting class is not that great. We need to stop pretending like it is.

Hence, the 1 - 2 week window....

Really Clark?
11-30-2019, 10:06 PM
If we go the coordinator route AGAIN after Moor Inability to Score, we are idiots. Especially if Napier still wants the job or by some miracle we could pull Norvell, although I think Norvell is more likely destined for FSU.

If it’s who I was told last week, very surprised by the name, then it’s not a normal coordinator you are thinking of. Or not from a normal program.

Really Clark?
11-30-2019, 10:07 PM
Let's just be honest, this current recruiting class is not that great. We need to stop pretending like it is.

About normal...even for Mullen

War Machine Dawg
11-30-2019, 10:08 PM
If it’s who I was told last week, very surprised by the name, then it’s not a normal coordinator you are thinking of. Or not from a normal program.

Now THAT makes me curious. PM? Clearly the public mentioning of names a couple of days ago didn't help our situation, so no need in doing it again. Let's learn a lesson for once.

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-30-2019, 10:09 PM
delete

DDawg
11-30-2019, 10:09 PM
Eric Washington

shrimp
11-30-2019, 10:10 PM
Let me tell you, this is a guy who would be a coming from a major role. Has been wanting to get back into college for a while and would have 100 times the impact of Napier OR Norvell. However, there would be more questions with his hire than those two but it was a very interesting candidate to be thrown into the mix. Apparently, he has a close personal connection with someone inside the athletic department who gauged his interest which there was alot more than they could have anticipated.

Eric Washington?

NeuteredDawg
11-30-2019, 10:11 PM
Eric Washington. Current D coordinator with Carolina Panthers. Would be a terrible hire.

Political Hack
11-30-2019, 10:12 PM
People are pissed but the admin isn't back down. This is bad guys. Bad bad. We've somehow managed to self impose something worse than probation. We've alienated our money guys and fan base all at the same time. I get they can tell the boosters to F-off with the TV money coming in, but the empty stadium isn't something they'll be able to recover from. I'm honestly worried that's where this is headed.

Pinto
11-30-2019, 10:13 PM
This guy?

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 10:13 PM
Eric Washington. Current D coordinator with Carolina Panthers. Would be a terrible hire.

Agreed. But keep up the info on everything else. I don’t think it is helpful to put names out there anymore.

ScottH
11-30-2019, 10:13 PM
Eric Washington?


Panthers DC or at least he was.

Doggie_Style
11-30-2019, 10:13 PM
All I got right now but some wheels are moving

PM me !!! ****

NeuteredDawg
11-30-2019, 10:14 PM
Agreed. But keep up the info on everything else. I don’t think it is helpful to put names out there anymore.

I don?t think it matters. Nobody here knows anything.

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 10:14 PM
Eric Washington. Current D coordinator with Carolina Panthers. Would be a terrible hire.

Yeah no thanks. I want an offensive mind. Hell, even Saban's teams are losing after scoring 40+ these days. Defense is still important, but I want a head coach with an offensive background in today's college football

HoopsDawg
11-30-2019, 10:15 PM
21 commits. 7 Jucos that are tough to rate. 12 ms high school kids. 1 from GA and 1 from AL.

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 10:15 PM
People are pissed but the admin isn't back down. This is bad guys. Bad bad. We've somehow managed to self impose something worse than probation. We've alienated our money guys and fan base all at the same time. I get they can tell the boosters to F-off with the TV money coming in, but the empty stadium isn't something they'll be able to recover from. I'm honestly worried that's where this is headed.

If we keep him it will be a ghost town. How do they not realize this? Are they really happy with the way our team has performed the past two years?

Shit like this pisses me off. I was happy when Cohen was named AD because I thought he wouldn’t be ok with underachieving at MSU. Looks like I was way off on him.

DDawg
11-30-2019, 10:15 PM
Yeah no thanks. I want an offensive mind. Hell, even Saban's teams are losing after scoring 40+ these days. Defense is still important, but I want a head coach with an offensive background in today's college football

Supposedly his hiring would be contingent on the quality of assistants he could either bring in or keep.

msu15
11-30-2019, 10:16 PM
This guy?

**** that I’d rather keep fat boy.

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 10:16 PM
People are pissed but the admin isn't back down. This is bad guys. Bad bad. We've somehow managed to self impose something worse than probation. We've alienated our money guys and fan base all at the same time. I get they can tell the boosters to F-off with the TV money coming in, but the empty stadium isn't something they'll be able to recover from. I'm honestly worried that's where this is headed.

Unbelievable.
At least it's not happening in the public like Tennessee's, but I wish somehow we'd end up getting what we want.
Which is damn near anything but Moor Joe

ScottH
11-30-2019, 10:16 PM
People are pissed but the admin isn't back down. This is bad guys. Bad bad. We've somehow managed to self impose something worse than probation. We've alienated our money guys and fan base all at the same time. I get they can tell the boosters to F-off with the TV money coming in, but the empty stadium isn't something they'll be able to recover from. I'm honestly worried that's where this is headed.

Amateur AD.
Impotent President.
Money guys who aren't nearly as monied as they think.
Alienated fan base.

What did I miss?

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 10:17 PM
If we keep him it will be a ghost town. How do they not realize this? Are they really happy with the way our team has performed the past two years?

Shit like this pisses me off. I was happy when Cohen was named AD because I thought he wouldn’t be ok with underachieving at MSU. Looks like I was way off on him.

I feel the same way, man.

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-30-2019, 10:17 PM
Let me tell you, this is a guy who would be a coming from a major role. Has been wanting to get back into college for a while and would have 100 times the impact of Napier OR Norvell. However, there would be more questions with his hire than those two but it was a very interesting candidate to be thrown into the mix. Apparently, he has a close personal connection with someone inside the athletic department who gauged his interest which there was alot more than they could have anticipated.

So... defensive, went somewhere in LA, currently coaching in the carolinas... I looked at the HCs of the carolina FCS schools and found nothing, als othe DCs of Duke, wake, NC, NC State, SC, and Clemson, and found nothing. But the other guy said "Not a coordinator from a normal program".

I looked further, think I may have found him. does he have a tie to Grambling State by chance?

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 10:18 PM
Amateur AD.
Impotent President.
Money guys who aren't nearly as monied as they think.
Alienated fan base.

What did I miss?

Connect 4, you win!

KB21
11-30-2019, 10:18 PM
Yeah no thanks. I want an offensive mind. Hell, even Saban's teams are losing after scoring 40+ these days. Defense is still important, but I want a head coach with an offensive background in today's college football

Don?t get caught up in whether a coach is offensive minded or defensive minded. You should be looking to identify the best head coaching candidate.

Really Clark?
11-30-2019, 10:19 PM
So... defensive, went somewhere in LA, currently coaching in the carolinas... I looked at the HCs of the carolina FCS schools and found nothing, als othe DCs of Duke, wake, NC, NC State, SC, and Clemson, and found nothing. But the other guy said "Not a coordinator from a normal program".

I looked further, think I may have found him. does he have a tie to Grambling State by chance?

The name was posted shortly after. You figured it out

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 10:19 PM
Don?t get caught up in whether a coach is offensive minded or defensive minded. You should be looking to identify the best head coaching candidate.

And most of them are offensive minded/former OC's. Obviously I want the best guy...and if Saban or Smart are available come on down. I could live with Grantham with the right OC hire. But no thanks to a rando DC from the NFL. No thanks

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-30-2019, 10:19 PM
Amateur AD.
Impotent President.
Money guys who aren't nearly as monied as they think.
Alienated fan base.

What did I miss?

We have a horrible coach that doesn't want to be here, has no incentive to recruit hard, or develop our young players, or make staff changes

TrapGame
11-30-2019, 10:19 PM
People are pissed but the admin isn't back down. This is bad guys. Bad bad. We've somehow managed to self impose something worse than probation. We've alienated our money guys and fan base all at the same time. I get they can tell the boosters to F-off with the TV money coming in, but the empty stadium isn't something they'll be able to recover from. I'm honestly worried that's where this is headed.

Have you heard anything about Joe looking for other jobs or is he just gonna stay put?

ShotgunDawg
11-30-2019, 10:20 PM
People are pissed but the admin isn't back down. This is bad guys. Bad bad. We've somehow managed to self impose something worse than probation. We've alienated our money guys and fan base all at the same time. I get they can tell the boosters to F-off with the TV money coming in, but the empty stadium isn't something they'll be able to recover from. I'm honestly worried that's where this is headed.

I don't understand the admin's angle on keeping Joe.

Why are they attaching themselves so hard to him?

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-30-2019, 10:22 PM
And most of them are offensive minded/former OC's

Yeah defensive minded coaches seem to flop at higher rates than offensive guys do. My guess is offensive identity is harder to instill and carry on over time if you have to rely on an OC to do it, but defensive identity can be picked up from a DC easily. See Grantham.

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 10:24 PM
I don't understand the admin's angle on keeping Joe.

Why are they attaching themselves so hard to him?

Exactly! It is mind boggling.

EVERYONE knows how this is going to end. Why not go ahead and be done with it. The original hire was not a mistake (seemingly). The fact that he is still here is the mistake. I cannot believe John is ok losing his job because of this man.

DogsofAnarchy
11-30-2019, 10:24 PM
You know reading all these threads each with anticipation of news of a change is about as entertaining as the ?ITS COMING? threads back in the day

I started that thread back in the day. I hated that Broussard kid got killed.

msbulldog
11-30-2019, 10:25 PM
John would probably do better

If that happened, I bet the Ref's would think twice before screwing us!

DDawg
11-30-2019, 10:26 PM
I don't understand the admin's angle on keeping Joe.

Why are they attaching themselves so hard to him?

They do not have a choice at this point. IB apparently told him that it while on the outside it seemed like a fluid situation he was going to try to keep him around. After his press conference Moorhead drew a line in the sand between the admin and the "minority" of the fans that JoMo said to basically go to hell. Turns out the minority was either alot larger than he expected AND/OR alot more powerful.

ScottH
11-30-2019, 10:26 PM
Exactly!
EVERYONE knows how this is going to end. Why not go ahead and be done with it.

"What should be done eventually, must be done immediately" ~ Jeremy Foley

Commercecomet24
11-30-2019, 10:27 PM
People are pissed but the admin isn't back down. This is bad guys. Bad bad. We've somehow managed to self impose something worse than probation. We've alienated our money guys and fan base all at the same time. I get they can tell the boosters to F-off with the TV money coming in, but the empty stadium isn't something they'll be able to recover from. I'm honestly worried that's where this is headed.

This this this!

parabrave
11-30-2019, 10:27 PM
Well at least we are saving 75 million

TrapGame
11-30-2019, 10:29 PM
They do not have a choice at this point. IB apparently told him that it while on the outside it seemed like a fluid situation he was going to try to keep him around. After his press conference Moorhead drew a line in the sand between the admin and the "minority" of the fans that JoMo said to basically go to hell. Turns out the minority was either alot larger than he expected AND/OR alot more powerful.

So this has completely blown up in Cohen's face?

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-30-2019, 10:30 PM
They do not have a choice at this point. IB apparently told him that it while on the outside it seemed like a fluid situation he was going to try to keep him around. After his press conference Moorhead drew a line in the sand between the admin and the "minority" of the fans that JoMo said to basically go to hell. Turns out the minority was either alot larger than he expected AND/OR alot more powerful.

Why would Cohen try to "keep him around"? What is he possibly seeing that implies we're as well coached as other SEC teams, and why would he be willing to support Joe against the vast majority of fans boosters, and presumably his own president? He's really willing to fight the whole world to keep a bad coach around 1 more year?

And what does " they do not have a choice at this point" mean, surely the boosters are powerful enough to force Cohens hand right

DDawg
11-30-2019, 10:31 PM
So this has completely blown up in Cohen's face?

Word around the department is that Cohen was furious with his presser and thats why he hauled ass out of there as soon as it was over. Essentially the situation was handle with care and Moorhead blew that all up.

TALL DAWG
11-30-2019, 10:32 PM
I?m glad someone started this thread so I didn?t have to.

This is a burner account for me, I can?t post what I?m about to because if I was doing it on my normal (8000+ post) account I would be risking the family connections I have as many people here know me personally and understand what I mean.

Rose bowl was correct that IB and Morevester met for a couple hours today, however he was wrong REAL wrong about the outcome of that meeting. After his tweet, many big shots in the cigar boys club who were already riled up about the post game interview met their breaking point and let it be known. I know for a fact one donor vowed to stop his 6 figure donations until the savant was gone.

Long story short. Moorhead was given an ultimatum that while you are the coach as of now, lets just say there?s a man down in Louisiana who may be having a big press conference of his own once they finish up their championship game....

U joined in Nov, have 22 posts and u know what is going on?
If u are correct u should be given $20m in v-cash.

I will not ever believe anything from anyone on here concerning our coaches
unless and until it actually happens.

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 10:32 PM
Last night I read somewhere that Cohen had been going to practices quite a lot since AU game. And that he was pissed at Joe and didn't think he was the guy.

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 10:34 PM
I don't understand the admin's angle on keeping Joe.

Why are they attaching themselves so hard to him?

It doesn’t make sense to me at all either. The guy has split the fan base, told the cigar boys to kick rocks, told the fans he doesn’t care what we think about him....so let’s give him another year AND extend him.

Read out loud what I just typed and how silly that sounds. And then realize that’s what we just did.

Just give him the 6 million of the Leo Seal money and wish him well.

The only way this gets fixed is without Joe. That should be very apparent.

DDawg
11-30-2019, 10:35 PM
Why would Cohen try to "keep him around"? What is he possibly seeing that implies we're as well coached as other SEC teams, and why would he be willing to support Joe against the vast majority of fans boosters, and presumably his own president? He's really willing to fight the whole world to keep a bad coach around 1 more year?

And what does " they do not have a choice at this point" mean, surely the boosters are powerful enough to force Cohens hand right

Cohen and Joe are extremely close friends. Talk on the phone for hours at a time after games and regularly meet, Thats one reason I wasnt suprised when he was defending him with Finebaum when he was on campus that was only the tip of the iceberg. Honestly, any other AD in the country would have probably fired him after that show he gave Thurs combined with everything else but apparently their personal relationship is what is getting in the way of any change being made. Cohen going to bat for his guy is what it boils down to.

MetEdDawg
11-30-2019, 10:35 PM
Last night I read somewhere that Cohen had been going to practices quite a lot since AU game. And that he was pissed at Joe and didn't think he was the guy.

Sounds like boosters are bitching out and the money and backing isn't there.

I think a lot of this board has Cohen pegged wrong. He's the Intense Bastard for a reason folks. You gave him that name because of how he acts.

I can't imagine he's sitting around twittling his thumbs without a clue what's going on. My guess is he's got a plan and he can't get enough backing on one side or the other. So we sit here in limbo until the needle is moved enough in one direction.

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-30-2019, 10:36 PM
Word around the department is that Cohen was furious with his presser and thats why he hauled ass out of there as soon as it was over. Essentially the situation was handle with care and Moorhead blew that all up.

So Cohen was tying to slime his way into keeping Joe despite literally everyone wanting Joe gone, but Joe flipping off our fans and boosters made it harder for him, but he still stuck by him? Why? What the hell does Cohen see that he's willing to fight the people who wright the checks he needs them to?

I was willing to give Cohen a pass on hiring Moorhead because we all thought it would work... but to actually fight to save him now is an inexcusable error isn't judgment. Apparently 90% of us can evaluate football coaches better than him. He's gotta go

Rex54
11-30-2019, 10:36 PM
Word around the department is that Cohen was furious with his presser and thats why he hauled ass out of there as soon as it was over. Essentially the situation was handle with care and Moorhead blew that all up.

So say the magic two words, “you’re. fired.” - Then call up every donor who gives five figures or more and raise the buyout money. Tell them “Joe told me to my face he wished Sherman’s March would have gone from Jackson to Starkville” so please help me rid myself of this meddlesome coach.

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 10:36 PM
Word around the department is that Cohen was furious with his presser and thats why he hauled ass out of there as soon as it was over. Essentially the situation was handle with care and Moorhead blew that all up.

Then again- just fire him. If that’s true.

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 10:36 PM
Last night I read somewhere that Cohen had been going to practices quite a lot since AU game. And that he was pissed at Joe and didn't think he was the guy.

Then he needs to do something about it.

I also realize that just because it hasn’t happened on the timeline I would prefer doesn’t mean it isn’t going to happen. But why put word out that we are keeping (and extending!) him?

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 10:37 PM
Sounds like boosters are bitching out and the money and backing isn't there.

I think a lot of this board has Cohen pegged wrong. He's the Intense Bastard for a reason folks. You gave him that name because of how he acts.

I can't imagine he's sitting around twittling his thumbs without a clue what's going on. My guess is he's got a plan and he can't get enough backing on one side or the other. So we sit here in limbo until the needle is moved enough in one direction.

And if that’s the case again- break the glass on the Leo Seal money.

Homedawg
11-30-2019, 10:38 PM
Last night I read somewhere that Cohen had been going to practices quite a lot since AU game. And that he was pissed at Joe and didn't think he was the guy.

Cohen always goes to practice. That's not new.

TrapGame
11-30-2019, 10:38 PM
Cohen and Joe are extremely close friends. Talk on the phone for hours at a time after games and regularly meet, Thats one reason I wasnt suprised when he was defending him with Finebaum when he was on campus that was only the tip of the iceberg. Honestly, any other AD in the country would have probably fired him after that show he gave Thurs combined with everything else but apparently their personal relationship is what is getting in the way of any change being made. Cohen going to bat for his guy is what it boils down to.

Yeah, it's time for Cohen to go. He's his boss not his BFF. This is a total cluster and it looks like it's on Cohen. Wow.

defiantdog
11-30-2019, 10:38 PM
Word around the department is that Cohen was furious with his presser and thats why he hauled ass out of there as soon as it was over. Essentially the situation was handle with care and Moorhead blew that all up.

Cohen always hauls out of the press conferences. Most of the time, he leaves before they even start.

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 10:39 PM
Cohen and Joe are extremely close friends. Talk on the phone for hours at a time after games and regularly meet, Thats one reason I wasnt suprised when he was defending him with Finebaum when he was on campus that was only the tip of the iceberg. Honestly, any other AD in the country would have probably fired him after that show he gave Thurs combined with everything else but apparently their personal relationship is what is getting in the way of any change being made. Cohen going to bat for his guy is what it boils down to.

You gotta be freakin kidding me. I've never said Fire Cohen but now I am. His ass needs to go if his bonding with Joe not only hosed up a coaching hiring but now also the subsequent firing.

ETA: And if they'd quit "talking on the phone for hours" maybe Joe would watch some damn game film a little between games.

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 10:39 PM
Then he needs to do something about it.

I also realize that just because it hasn’t happened on the timeline I would prefer doesn’t mean it isn’t going to happen. But why put word out that we are keeping (and extending!) him?

Yeah there are some things that aren’t adding up to me at all.

Heck might as well bite the bullet because we’re going to be doing the same thing next year. Unless Cohen ****s that up too.

Homedawg
11-30-2019, 10:39 PM
Cohen and Joe are extremely close friends. Talk on the phone for hours at a time after games and regularly meet, Thats one reason I wasnt suprised when he was defending him with Finebaum when he was on campus that was only the tip of the iceberg. Honestly, any other AD in the country would have probably fired him after that show he gave Thurs combined with everything else but apparently their personal relationship is what is getting in the way of any change being made. Cohen going to bat for his guy is what it boils down to.

Cohen is an ass. He doesn't have any friends. Just telling the truth.

Liverpooldawg
11-30-2019, 10:40 PM
Last night I read somewhere that Cohen had been going to practices quite a lot since AU game. And that he was pissed at Joe and didn't think he was the guy.

If that's the case the Cohen should be fired, not for what he thought about Joe but it ain't his job to be going to practice.

MetEdDawg
11-30-2019, 10:40 PM
And if that’s the case again- break the glass on the Leo Seal money.

I said it weeks ago and I'm gonna stand by it.

I don't think we are good for the money. I honestly don't believe our resources are willing to pony up what it takes. We ar clearly missing something here.

There's too much he said this and source said this. Nothing concrete. Just conjecture and supposition. To me, there's no way Cohen allows crap to go down like it has and look like he's getting steamrolled. He's not the Intense Bastard because he gets rolled over. It's because he's got a little ass to him.

This situation seems out of his control. It's not his style for us to be grapevining all this crap with zero concrete evidence to pull from. He's been active on Twitter today too. So something must be going on where he's having to let some things play out.

Homedawg
11-30-2019, 10:40 PM
You gotta be freakin kidding me. I've never said Fire Cohen but now I am. His ass needs to go if his bonding with Joe not only hosed up a coaching hiring but now also the subsequent firing.


I have some land on the coast of x country. Would you like to buy it. It's worth millions??!!!.....

DDawg
11-30-2019, 10:40 PM
Yeah, it's time for Cohen to go. He's his boss not his BFF. This is a total cluster and it looks like it's on Cohen. Wow.

Dont forget, Cohen while fairly successful during his tenure was also met with some of the same critiques as Joe during his time as a coach at MSU. He does not have the same regard for the fanbase that you would expect

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 10:41 PM
Cohen and Joe are extremely close friends. Talk on the phone for hours at a time after games and regularly meet, Thats one reason I wasnt suprised when he was defending him with Finebaum when he was on campus that was only the tip of the iceberg. Honestly, any other AD in the country would have probably fired him after that show he gave Thurs combined with everything else but apparently their personal relationship is what is getting in the way of any change being made. Cohen going to bat for his guy is what it boils down to.

Ok just now seeing this. This makes more sense to me now.

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-30-2019, 10:41 PM
We have the Boosters wanting him gone ,the fans hate him, revenue will be down, we have the Seal money, and Joe just flipped the bird to us all.

The only explanation I see for him being here is that either A) Cohen really is going ot bat for Joe based on their personal friendship, or 2) the VS's want him to stay and Cohen is loyal to them and so is doing their bidding.

But it definitely sounds like money isn't the problem

EDIT or maybe money is the problem. It definitely seems like Cohen might be willing to change his mind, given the only "statement" has been Rosey and Paul saying he's staying. But that means nothing and if it was final you'd think Cohen would put it out there more firmly

Are we 100% we aren't still playing chicken over the buyout, or trying to get another program to hire him away so we pay no buyout?

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 10:41 PM
Yeah there are some things that aren’t adding up to me at all.

Heck might as well bite the bullet because we’re going to be doing the same thing next year. Unless Cohen ****s that up too.

Nothing about this adds up. Like Shotgun said last night, we didn’t even put Joe in the postgame video. That was a weird move.

runwildjerious
11-30-2019, 10:43 PM
I said it weeks ago and I'm gonna stand by it.

I don't think we are good for the money. I honestly don't believe our resources are willing to pony up what it takes. We ar clearly missing something here.

There's too much he said this and source said this. Nothing concrete. Just conjecture and supposition. To me, there's no way Cohen allows crap to go down like it has and look like he's getting steamrolled. He's not the Intense Bastard because he gets rolled over. It's because he's got a little ass to him.

This situation seems out of his control. It's not his style for us to be grapevining all this crap with zero concrete evidence to pull from. He's been active on Twitter today too. So something must be going on where he's having to let some things play out.

Yes he has. And his Twitter has been lit up. He is very aware.

Todd4State
11-30-2019, 10:44 PM
I said it weeks ago and I'm gonna stand by it.

I don't think we are good for the money. I honestly don't believe our resources are willing to pony up what it takes. We ar clearly missing something here.

There's too much he said this and source said this. Nothing concrete. Just conjecture and supposition. To me, there's no way Cohen allows crap to go down like it has and look like he's getting steamrolled. He's not the Intense Bastard because he gets rolled over. It's because he's got a little ass to him.

This situation seems out of his control. It's not his style for us to be grapevining all this crap with zero concrete evidence to pull from. He's been active on Twitter today too. So something must be going on where he's having to let some things play out.

If Joe and Cohen are good friends that makes sense to me. But the boosters are going to have to step up to stop this.

It’s probably going to take the cigar boys telling Cohen it’s either Joe or both of you. Make your choice.

dawgday166
11-30-2019, 10:44 PM
If that's the case the Cohen should be fired, not for what he thought about Joe but it ain't his job to be going to practice.

Dude ... Cohen's his boss. You in love with Joe or something. Do you have a boss. My boss can walk in my office any damn time he pleases, like most people who have bosses.

MrKotter
11-30-2019, 10:45 PM
Yeah there are some things that aren’t adding up to me at all.

Heck might as well bite the bullet because we’re going to be doing the same thing next year. Unless Cohen ****s that up too.

The majority of what DDawg is posting makes zero sense.

CadaverDawg
11-30-2019, 10:45 PM
Cohen better watch out, because when Joe gets his ass whipped a month from now in a bowl game, it will be Cohen getting all of this fury instead of his boi.

Everybody knows he's not going to magically start being successful all of the sudden. Cohen is literally putting his own ass on the line over something that's going to happen next year either way.

DDawg
11-30-2019, 10:45 PM
If Joe and Cohen are good friends that makes sense to me. But the boosters are going to have to step up to stop this.

It’s probably going to take the cigar boys telling Cohen it’s either Joe or both of you. Make your choice.

They are essentially the Thelma And Louise of the Mississippi State's athletic department at this point