Go on the record

[MetEdDawg]

Looks like we are keeping Moorhead. So go on the record. What do you expect next year as a record? Pin it to the top and we can revisit.

I'll go ahead and say if we don't go 7-5 he need to go. I already think he should go UNLESS he has guaranteed a massive overhaul of how things are currently done. But given everything. Talent, recruiting, previous performance and history of Moorhead as coach, etc. What do you expect our record to be next year?

I'll say 7-5

[Liverpooldawg]

6-6 tops.

[gtowndawg]

Win the bowl. Top 20 recruiting class. 7 wins next year. There you go Joe, go prove me wrong. Put up your dooks and show me what ya got!

Edited: sorry, thought this was what he needs to do to show he can get the job done. So yeah, 6-6 is tops next year.

[DownwardDawg]

I say 5-7

[Rex54]

6-6

[BuckyIsAB****]

6-6 bc he can do whatever he wants and make his money now

[msstate7]

Picking W/L this early is kind of a waste of time. We haven't gotten to the 1st signing day, no decisions on hill and gay, and this is the age of transfers.

[DeputyDawg94]

A quick look at the schedule says 8-4.

A quick look at the coach says 6-6.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Picking W/L this early is kind of a waste of time. We haven't gotten to the 1st signing day, no decisions on hill and gay, and this is the age of transfers.

It doesnt matter. If moorhead is the coach we will underachieve and get by just enough

[defiantdog]

6-6 tops.
You?re not allowed to say 6 wins..... you love Joe. You?re a huge supporter. 6 wins is not grounds to retain a coach. Try again.

[Kain32]

4-8 tops

[KOdawg1]

He'll squeak out 6-6 and we'll be stuck with mediocrity for another year

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

5-7:

This years, as far as toss up games go, we beat OM, Kentucky, and lost to KState and TN.

Next year I see @NCState being similar to vs KState, so that's a likely L. @ Mizzou is comparable to @TN so again, we probably lose it. However, Om SHOULD have taken us to OT on our own field, so i feel like another year of Plumlee development and homefield advantage wins them that one. That bring us to Kentucky, who will be better next year and have homefield. Lets not forget they literally dropped 3 TD passes against us to the score isn't indicative of how close that game was.

That's 2 more loses than last year with 0 more wins, but I think we win 1 of NCState or Mizzou to make it 5-7.

We have Moorhead, so we will continue to regress in S7C, culture, attitude, and attention to detail, while still having bad gameplans and playcalling. Shrader should improve and the D should get better, but the Moorhead effect will cause us to regress overall.

Now, what SHOULD the record be? We have more talent than any of the 4 toss ups I mentioned, so 8-4 SHOULD be the record, maybe 7-5

[Jack Lambert]

6-6 will not save his job next year. What I want is to win the bowl game, have a good recruiting class, he fire coaches that need to be fired, learn from his mistakes, and have a good season next year. 7 or 8 win will be ok if they look like a well coached team. If he 6 win team and they look like they did this season he will be gone.

[BuckyIsAB****]

You?re not allowed to say 6 wins..... you love Joe. You?re a huge supporter. 6 wins is not grounds to retain a coach. Try again.

Allyn Mckeen!!! Tech and 10!! We dont deserve no better than living with the shoes!! Excuses excuses blame others we cant do it so we should just take it and be happy!! We beat OM!! Cherish it!! Confederate evil landshark bear men

[Quaoarsking]

4 nonconference, plus Arkansas, Kentucky, and Ole Miss, except we blow one of those. 6-6.

At this point though anything from 3-9 to 9-3 is in play, because we don't know who will be here and how much people will improve. Shrader could take us to great heights in spite of Joe if he pans out, or we could lose a lot and be worse.

[msugolf]

Looks like we are keeping Moorhead. So go on the record. What do you expect next year as a record? Pin it to the top and we can revisit.

I'll go ahead and say if we don't go 7-5 he need to go. I already think he should go UNLESS he has guaranteed a massive overhaul of how things are currently done. But given everything. Talent, recruiting, previous performance and history of Moorhead as coach, etc. What do you expect our record to be next year?

I'll say 7-5

3-9 (1-7)

[gtowndawg]

6-6 will not save his job next year. What I want is to win the bowl game, have a good recruiting class, he fire coaches that need to be fired, learn from his mistakes, and have a good season next year. 7 or 8 win will be ok if they look like a well coached team. If he 6 win team and they look like they did this season he will be gone.

That?s exactly where I stand.

[hacker]

7-5

[CadaverDawg]

I predict small crowds, few wins, and me not giving a shit.

[Commercecomet24]

It doesnt matter. If moorhead is the coach we will underachieve and get by just enough

Yep our ceiling is now 6-7 wins.

[bobcat91]

7-5

[Liverpooldawg]

6-6 will not save his job next year. What I want is to win the bowl game, have a good recruiting class, he fire coaches that need to be fired, learn from his mistakes, and have a good season next year. 7 or 8 win will be ok if they look like a well coached team. If he 6 win team and they look like they did this season he will be gone.

This is probabaly correct. Year three is different than year two.

[Thick]

4-8 with 1 conference win or 5-7 with 1 conference win

[parabrave]

5-7. He is going to go Full RPO next year.

[vv83]

7-5 if Luke is still coach. 6-6 if not

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

6-6 will not save his job next year. What I want is to win the bowl game, have a good recruiting class, he fire coaches that need to be fired, learn from his mistakes, and have a good season next year. 7 or 8 win will be ok if they look like a well coached team. If he 6 win team and they look like they did this season he will be gone.

What makes you say he'll be gone if we look like a poorly coached team and go 6-6? We looked like a poorly coached team this year and barely went 6-6 and he's still here, why should we expect things to be different?

Hell, we don't even know that his buyout will drop: Cohen gave him a bigger buyout after last year AND didn't fire him this year, why wouldn't he be stupid enough to bump the buyout up too?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

4 nonconference, plus Arkansas, Kentucky, and Ole Miss, except we blow one of those. 6-6.

At this point though anything from 3-9 to 9-3 is in play, because we don't know who will be here and how much people will improve. Shrader could take us to great heights in spite of Joe if he pans out, or we could lose a lot and be worse.

I don't see why @NCState is easier thn vs KState. Yeah they're 4-8 this year but they were 9-4 the 2 previous years so they'll probably be decent next year. KState is only 7-4 so it's not like NCState has to be worldbeaters to be as hard of a game at theri house as KState was at ours.

and 9-3 isn't in play. We had the best defense in the country and he went 8-5... there's not 3 first rounders on next years D and 2 above average NFL starters on the OL. We will lose to Bama, LSU, Auburn, and A&M at the least

[SandlotDawg]

He?ll manage 6-6, but hell, he can be 3-9 with a win over Ole Miss and be extremely comfortable.

[defiantdog]

We'll see if Joe really had the support of players on who's going pro. If Willie and Hill are gone, we go 5-7. I don't think we beat NC State @ NC State. We can't score points and we are in serious trouble if we lose Hill and Gibson.

[sandjunky]

4-8

[Dawgology]

5-7

And Cohen looks like the raging idiot he is.

[msstatelp1]

6-6 regular season.

[Jack Lambert]

What makes you say he'll be gone if we look like a poorly coached team and go 6-6? We looked like a poorly coached team this year and barely went 6-6 and he's still here, why should we expect things to be different?

Hell, we don't even know that his buyout will drop: Cohen gave him a bigger buyout after last year AND didn't fire him this year, why wouldn't he be stupid enough to bump the buyout up too?

Big different between year 2 and year 3 as perception.

[Mjoelner34]

Apparently our record and program trajectory doesnt matter as long as we win the last game and the coaches show effort during the game.

[QuadrupleOption]

8-4

[DogsofAnarchy]

We will go about 5-7 or 6-6 but it’s an 8-4 type schedule.

[crackerjax]

I expect 7 or 8 wins next year. If we can do that, 2021 sets up very nicely with the schedule being much easier (pick up Vandy, NC State at home) and a team full of veterans. I expect 9 or 10 in 2021.

[trojandawg]

Lose the bowl. 5-7

[JoseBrown]

5-7 or 6-6 will be tops next year. I think he'll continue to try to throw the ball down the field, but won't figure a way to give QB time to make good throws. Shrader will lead Plumlee in rush yards. We qualify for a bowl and he gets another extension, because we don't imitate slave owners after scoring TD in Oxfard.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Big different between year 2 and year 3 as perception.

Is there really that big of a difference between year 2-3 anyway? Luke just had the same record as his 2nd year. Saban and Ed O and Kirby broke out in year 2. Gus went 8-5 in year 2 and 7-6 in year 3. Beilema went from 7-6 to 8-5 year 2 vs 3, Freeze went from 8-5 to 9-4, muschamp fell off a cliff year 2 to 3 at both UF and SC, Mullen went from 9-4 to 7-6 year 2 to 3 here...

I'm really nor seeing the evidence for this year 3 jump. Seems to be pretty much irrelevant whether the coach is good or bad or at a good program or not

[R2Dawg]

6-6 will not save his job next year. What I want is to win the bowl game, have a good recruiting class, he fire coaches that need to be fired, learn from his mistakes, and have a good season next year. 7 or 8 win will be ok if they look like a well coached team. If he 6 win team and they look like they did this season he will be gone.

I think 6-6 will save his job; He'll have more excuses next year. Lost starting QB, young RB, injuries, didn't inherit 85 bears, yall sucked before I got here, etc. etc.

[Todd4State]

Is there really that big of a difference between year 2-3 anyway? Luke just had the same record as his 2nd year. Saban and Ed O and Kirby broke out in year 2. Gus went 8-5 in year 2 and 7-6 in year 3. Beilema went from 7-6 to 8-5 year 2 vs 3, Freeze went from 8-5 to 9-4, muschamp fell off a cliff year 2 to 3 at both UF and SC, Mullen went from 9-4 to 7-6 year 2 to 3 here...

I'm really nor seeing the evidence for this year 3 jump. Seems to be pretty much irrelevant whether the coach is good or bad or at a good program or not

Probably situation dependent more than anything.

[Randolph Dupree]

4 wins next year. We fire Joe but due to a plethora of open jobs we are stuck with mediocrity/leftovers for a candidate pool and.....boom, back to the Croom years for the next decade.

I'm out on football. I have nothing for the coach and direction of the program and will not support it. Will continue to support our other sports and the BDC.

[dantheman4248]

MSU going 15-0 next year. Gonna have Moor points than all our opponents. If you don't see the progress you're blind. Darrell Royal and Murray Warmath couldn't beat Ole Miss and those are champion coaches, imagine how good Joe can be since he can do what they can't.

[Political Hack]

5-7 if things go well.

[Jacksondevildog]

6-6 next season. Our swing game is NC State. It?s winnable, but I don?t trust this staff to go on the road early in the season and beat an average team.

[dawgday166]

For the record 5-7. How do we get there:

1) Moor primadonnas to step into Guidy's place to be coddled, nurtured while not catching/blocking/executing on the field.
2) Moor suspensions and "Moultrie knee" type injuries there's no Moor explanations for.
3) Moor indoor practices with a Moor pats on the back while jogging easily thru routes and catching passes.
4) Moor losses to "quality" opponents like Tulane, NC State, Arky, Mizzou, Ky.
5) Moor "not executing well" in all 3 phases of the game against those "quality" opponents.
6) Moor "we're building a culture here".
7) Moor pressers where we're reminded how the "myth of the '85 Bears he inherited" is not true.
8) A 5-6 record going into EB.
9) Moor's job security hinges on EB victory.

Essentially ... MOOR of the same. It's all about the Egg.

[DogsofAnarchy]

6-6 will not save his job next year. What I want is to win the bowl game, have a good recruiting class, he fire coaches that need to be fired, learn from his mistakes, and have a good season next year. 7 or 8 win will be ok if they look like a well coached team. If he 6 win team and they look like they did this season he will be gone.

Nope. Go 6-6 and he will get extended again. Same thing different year.

[WildDawg]

Better yet, how many games will we be blown out because the O scheme can?t score.

[Coursesuper]

4-8