Gentleman the wheels are in motion

[Todd4State]

Listen to 34 it's not hud.

Please just tell me it’s not Chizik. I don’t care otherwise. Like I don’t need the actual name of the guy for now. But I just want to know it’s not Chizik.

[bobcat91]

I've tried to get someone who says they are in the know, to take a guess. Crickets. Now I think it's funny that the same ones are bashing GP for not naming names are the same ones not naming names. That's rich. Guess we will know soon enough and then the revisionist history of confirming what they already knew can begin. Amazing the street cred you can build up when you have 20/20 hindsight that you pass off as being in the know.

[Todd4State]

Fun to me = Lane Train.

I hope it?s the Lane Train.

I don’t understand why? He hasn’t really done much. I mean I would take him over Chizik if it came down to the two of them.

[defiantdog]

i just hope the new guy hires coordinators that fit the MSU way of playing.

[Todd4State]

I've tried to get someone who says they are in the know, to take a guess. Crickets. Now I think it's funny that the same ones are bashing GP for not naming names are the same ones not naming names. That's rich. Guess we will know soon enough and then the revisionist history of confirming what they already knew can begin. Amazing the street cred you can build up when you have 20/20 hindsight that you pass off as being in the know.

There’s a fine line between Internet cred and doing something that may potentially hurt MSU rumor wise. Despite the fact that we aren’t connected to the AD.

When you have multiple reliable people saying the same thing that have proven reliable I listen personally.

Bash Coach all you want but being a football coach gives him some connections as far as football. He did coach Marcus Johnson after all. I’m sure he can find some things out with a few texts.

But for me personally I also listen to Rogue, Commerce, Spider, and when guys like that are all saying basically the same thing...odds are very high that something is up.

[jwells]

You do remember how bad Coach34 got bashed for releasing Dan to Tennessee hours before the Egg Bowl?

Let’s hopefully win tomorrow and then let things happen after that. It’s like 48 hours. Or less really.

It is not Chizik. Period. Will not be him because there is already an agreement with someone else. There will be a “mutual parting of ways” on Friday with Moorhead and we will go from there based on schedules. You can hold me to it. I will never post again if this does not happen

[Coursesuper]

Listen to 34 it's not hud.

Listen to CC24 gents, no one is going to 17 this one up. There not much time left so have a bourbon and chill.

[Coach34]

I've tried to get someone who says they are in the know, to take a guess. Crickets. Now I think it's funny that the same ones are bashing GP for not naming names are the same ones not naming names. That's rich. Guess we will know soon enough and then the revisionist history of confirming what they already knew can begin. Amazing the street cred you can build up when you have 20/20 hindsight that you pass off as being in the know.

Look psycho- I'm saying we are making a change. Hell, our administration may not yet know who for sure we are hiring. Banging on posters for not knowing is insane

[CadaverDawg]

Everyone I consider somewhat "in the know" has told me the same things....

"It's an offensive guy"

"It's an exciting brand of football"

"You will be pleased"

To me, there are only two guys that somewhat stand out as big time offensive guys that would come to State....

1) Napier
2) Norvell

Personally, I think it's one of these two, and I hope it's Napier because I think he's a better fit for our recruiting and he will maintain a physicality in the trenches. Norvell is more finesse and his defenses give up way too many points.

Unless it's a wild card like Art Briles, which I hope to hell its not....I think it's either Norvell or Napier. So I'm going with Napier, and I hope I'm right.

I'm just happy as hell it ain't Joe Moorhead. Now I can enjoy the Egg Bowl either way, hopefully we pull the double whammy and beat their ass as Joe's leaves town. HailState and Go To Hell Ole Miss

[bobcat91]

There’s a fine line between Internet cred and doing something that may potentially hurt MSU rumor wise. Despite the fact that we aren’t connected to the AD.

When you have multiple reliable people saying the same thing that have proven reliable I listen personally.

Bash Coach all you want but being a football coach gives him some connections as far as football. He did coach Marcus Johnson after all. I’m sure he can find some things out with a few texts.

But for me personally I also listen to Rogue, Commerce, Spider, and when guys like that are all saying basically the same thing...odds are very high that something is up.

Here's the problem with that. Anyone looking at us for 2 years realizes we need to do something different. Bring in new assistants or change the HC. I was for bringing in new assistants but from what I hear I'm past that. If guys weren't so enamored with being called connected, they could simply post something like this.

I heard from a friend who is a booster that changes are coming. He seems to be hearing its Eliah Drinkwitz. Hes been pretty accurate before.

But no, guys want to be internet rock stats and break the news so they are lauded. I dont care who gets credit, I just want info. Doing it that way preserves sources, but no, folks want to brag. Just like when Croom was hired, during Jackie's last game the word went through the stadium that it was Croom. I expect we will know tomorrow night.

[Commercecomet24]

Listen to CC24 gents, no one is going to 17 this one up. There not much time left so have a bourbon and chill.

Amen everyone relax let's get a win tomorrow a bowl game and a new coach! Times almost up on the JoMo error

[bobcat91]

Look psycho- I'm saying we are making a change. Hell, our administration may not yet know who for sure we are hiring. Banging on posters for not knowing is insane

Let me guess, its Whittingham. Lol

[Coursesuper]

Let me guess, its Whittingham. Lol

Sir you are in more dire need of a blow job than any other man alive.

[DownwardDawg]

Everyone I consider somewhat "in the know" has told me the same things....

"It's an offensive guy"

"It's an exciting brand of football"

"You will be pleased"

To me, there are only two guys that someone stand out as big time offensive guys that would come to State....

1) Napier
2) Norvell

Personally, I think it's one of these two, and I hope it's Napier because I think he's a better fit for our recruiting and he will maintain a physicality in the trenches. Norvell is more finesse and his defenses give up way too many points.

Unless it's a wild card like Art Briles, which I hope to hell its not....I think it's either Norvell or Napier. So I'm going with Napier, and I hope I'm right.

I'm just happy as hell it ain't Joe Moorhead. Now I can enjoy the Egg Bowl either way, hopefully we pull the double whammy and beat their ass as Joe's leaves town. HailState and Go To Hell Ole Miss

Great post!! I?m with you 100%! I really hope it?s Napier.

[defiantdog]

As long as we get a new S&C coach.....

[Todd4State]

Here's the problem with that. Anyone looking at us for 2 years realizes we need to do something different. Bring in new assistants or change the HC. I was for bringing in new assistants but from what I hear I'm past that. If guys weren't so enamored with being called connected, they could simply post something like this.

I heard from a friend who is a booster that changes are coming. He seems to be hearing its Eliah Drinkwitz. Hes been pretty accurate before.

But no, guys want to be internet rock stats and break the news so they are lauded. I dont care who gets credit, I just want info. Doing it that way preserves sources, but no, folks want to brag. Just like when Croom was hired, during Jackie's last game the word went through the stadium that it was Croom. I expect we will know tomorrow night.

Why do you give a shit who breaks news first? I?m paying 100% more attention to the news than who broke it.

[bobcat91]

Why do you give a shit who breaks news first? I?m paying 100% more attention to the news than who broke it.

That's the whole point. There is no news.

[Coach34]

Let me guess, its Whittingham. Lol

Why is my connection to Whittingham funny?

[SteelCurtain74]

Assuming that it's Napier, do KT or GS fit the system he runs? Are there any recruits he has coming to ULL that we would want?

[CadaverDawg]

Assuming that it's Napier, do KT or GS fit the system he runs? Are there any recruits he has coming to ULL that we would want?

Both would probably thrive in Napier's system.

[KOdawg1]

I also think it's Napier. It just makes sense.

[DogsofAnarchy]

[QUOTE=bobcat91;1188793]That's the whole point. There is no news.[/QUOTE

Go visit your boyfriend!! You’re to uptight!! And there is news coming bobcat.

[parabrave]

Everyone I consider somewhat "in the know" has told me the same things....

"It's an offensive guy"

"It's an exciting brand of football"

"You will be pleased"

To me, there are only two guys that somewhat stand out as big time offensive guys that would come to State....

1) Napier
2) Norvell

Personally, I think it's one of these two, and I hope it's Napier because I think he's a better fit for our recruiting and he will maintain a physicality in the trenches. Norvell is more finesse and his defenses give up way too many points.

Unless it's a wild card like Art Briles, which I hope to hell its not....I think it's either Norvell or Napier. So I'm going with Napier, and I hope I'm right.

I'm just happy as hell it ain't Joe Moorhead. Now I can enjoy the Egg Bowl either way, hopefully we pull the double whammy and beat their ass as Joe's leaves town. HailState and Go To Hell Ole Miss

Sounds like hmmmm Joe Moorhead

[bulldog20]

As long as we get a new S&C coach.....

Moorhead to S&C Coach

[bigplayslay]

Somebody refresh my memory. Wasn’t everyone saying it was Pruitt two years ago? This makes me think it’s not Napier.

[Todd4State]

Assuming that it's Napier, do KT or GS fit the system he runs? Are there any recruits he has coming to ULL that we would want?

If it is Napier both would fit his system. I think it’s similar to what Bama runs.

[DLGDawg]

But no, guys want to be internet rock stats and break the news so they are lauded. I dont care who gets credit, I just want info. Doing it that way preserves sources, but no, folks want to brag. Just like when Croom was hired, during Jackie's last game the word went through the stadium that it was Croom. I expect we will know tomorrow night.

There in lies the rubb. Your example does not preserve the source(Unless the source told him to run and post the info on the internet...which I highly doubt).
You say you want info. You have been provided that very thing today. Info. Change is coming. Now you want more info. Gotta have that name now. Patience!!!!
I don?t want a single person with connections to burn their source. The only thing better than satisfaction....give me anticipation!!!

[Katdoc12]

Both would probably thrive in Napier's system.

So Would Moose!

[HailStateSZN19]

I’m just ready for tomorrow night so hopefully by then the name is out or at least “confirmed” considering there’s been 100 names thrown around the last couple of days. I know there’s probably only a select few that are realistic but so much shit has been thrown around by people and then the people “in the know” have been very cryptic and vague (I understand you have to be to keep your sources, not taking a shot) on who it is that it’s hard to keep up with it. I hope we kick their ass tomorrow evening & can hopefully then start seeing some things confirmed or at least some more detailed hints dropped. Part of me feels like it’s somewhat obvious on who it is (Napier or Norvell) and the other part is expecting the unexpected and refuses to be surprised by anything. The anxiety is killing me!! Lol

[DDawg]

Seriously though Napier and Norvell sound cool and all, but I think a guy like Drinkwitz that was mentioned earlier would be a real interesting move. Doing big things at App State this year, Southern guy who took over at Springdale when Malzahn left and was around Auburns national championship team. Hard to see him leaving App State after only a year though.

All in all, I think Moorhead may have something already lined up and it'll be a cordial breakup. I just dont think his coaching style and philosophy was a fit for the SEC or the players we have but who's to say it won't work under different circumstances. I don't think he's a dumbass, but I do think he tried to be a captain of a ship before he understood the waters he was sailing in.

[bigplayslay]

I’m just ready for tomorrow night so hopefully by then the name is out or at least “confirmed” considering there’s been 100 names thrown around the last couple of days. I know there’s probably only a select few that are realistic but so much shit has been thrown around by people and then the people “in the know” have been very cryptic and vague (I understand you have to be to keep your sources, not taking a shot) on who it is that it’s hard to keep up with it. I hope we kick their ass tomorrow evening & can hopefully then start seeing some things confirmed or at least some more detailed hints dropped. Part of me feels like it’s somewhat obvious on who it is (Napier or Norvell) and the other part is expecting the unexpected and refuses to be surprised by anything. The anxiety is killing me!! Lol

I love all the speculation. Sounds like we’re down to Napier, norvell, hud then possibly Fritz, Bill Clark, Neal Brown (haven’t heard his name in a while), Chizik (hopefully not).

[Msujd164]

Been watching a lot on YouTube on several of the names mentioned. Norvell, Napier, HUD, etc.....Out of all press conferences, back stories, etc., I?m sold on Billy Napier. Watching player reactions to when he left ASU and what other former players have said, he?s very well respected.

[BhamDawg205]

He was never given a chance to win the job.

Thank you Joe 17d over Key year 1... Key knew as long as Joe was at MSU, he wasn't gonna get a chance to see the field. Joe has shown he won't put the best QB in or take a QB out when he's stinking up the place. And who wants to waist their whole career on the bench. 91 is a douche.

[bobcat91]

Thank you Joe 17d over Key year 1... Key knew as long as Joe was at MSU, he wasn't gonna get a chance to see the field. Joe has shown he won't put the best QB in or take a QB out when he's stinking up the place. And who wants to waist their whole career on the bench. 91 is a douche.

KT is a SWAC qb. When he cant compete 50% against SF Austin, you are a bad QB. You sir, are a complete idiot

[BuckyIsAB****]

If it is Napier both would fit his system. I think it?s similar to what Bama runs.

No. Napier is going to run the ball and then run it again. Obviously he could and SHOULD adjust to what his kids can do but he is not running what Bama is. He is going to be more like Mullen than he is Bama

[BhamDawg205]

It boggles the mind that anyone could watch us play and decide KT isn?t good because Moorhead says so. I quite frankly don?t trust Moorhead?s evaluations of anyone. And it couldn?t be more obvious at this point that he promised Stevens everything before he was ever here.

Thank you... Who the 17 still trusts Joe opinions? 17 completions percentage. W/L is all that matters and Joe 17d that up. Funny how good Fitz and Stevens looked in practice, but barely showed on game day.

[BhamDawg205]

KT is a SWAC qb. When he cant compete 50% against SF Austin, you are a bad QB. You sir, are a complete idiot

Did the kid win? Hell Stevens looked like shit against AC what's your point? Moorehead should have adjust his system last year and this year. And if Schrader took the job from Key so be it.

[deadheaddawg]

I cant possibly read through 14 pages of this looking. Did any of our "insiders" confirm a name?

[BhamDawg205]

[QUOTE=bobcat91;1188371]KT was recruited for Mullen's offense. Steven's and Schradee were recruited for Moorheads. Mullen was a run first offense. Moorheads isnt. His is predicated on fast reads and accurate throws. That isnt KT. [QUOTE]

And from what I've seen, Schrader isn't the guy either. Maybe he will be that guy in the future but for now, with mostly Mullen recruits, why not use KT, his athleticism, skills and experience to run the Mullen offense until Schrader and the rest of the team is ready for JoMo's offense. Does this make to much sense??

Yep

[Todd4State]

Thank you... Who the 17 still trusts Joe opinions? 17 completions percentage. W/L is all that matters and Joe 17d that up. Funny how good Fitz and Stevens looked in practice, but barely showed on game day.

You have to complete passes to be an effective quarterback in the SEC nowadays. If you can’t teams will stack the box and shut you down.

Joe gets a lot of things wrong. I don’t think he got the QB’s wrong based on watching them play. Shrader can run and pass the ball better than KT with less experience and he has also won SEC games.

[Todd4State]

Did the kid win? Hell Stevens looked like shit against AC what's your point? Moorehead should have adjust his system last year and this year. And if Schrader took the job from Key so be it.

Shrader did take the job has outperformed KT and a few people still bitched about it.

[BhamDawg205]

You have to complete passes to be an effective quarterback in the SEC nowadays. If you can’t teams will stack the box and shut you down.

Joe gets a lot of things wrong. I don’t think he got the QB’s wrong based on watching them play. Shrader can run and pass the ball better than KT with less experience and he has also won SEC games.

Schrader took the job from Stevens. But Joe being Joe continues to trott out Stevens, because of practice. KT wasn't a factor ever for Joe. Last year the games Fitz didn't play well, KT didn't deserve a few series? If Shrader was Joe's guy it should've been settled in camp or during the season. Joe only played Shrader because Stevens was hurt.

[Todd4State]

Schrader took the job from Stevens. But Joe being Joe continues to trott out Stevens, because of practice. KT wasn't a factor ever for Joe. Last year the games Fitz didn't play well, KT didn't deserve a few series? If Shrader was Joe's guy it should've been settled in camp or during the season. Joe only played Shrader because Stevens was hurt.

No because KT got suspended.

And KT played last year in 8 games I believe. Including against Texas A&M.

[Todd4State]

No. Napier is going to run the ball and then run it again. Obviously he could and SHOULD adjust to what his kids can do but he is not running what Bama is. He is going to be more like Mullen than he is Bama

In the SI article Napier mentioned that his offense is derived from Joe Pendry (former Alabama OL coach), Lane Kiffin, Joe McElwain, and Todd Graham.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I cant possibly read through 14 pages of this looking. Did any of our "insiders" confirm a name?

NO name, BUT 34 and Commet said it wasn't definitely wasn't Hud. So that narrows it down to Norvell, Chiz, and Napier.

Norvell seems like he's trying to land a bigger job. 34 broke the Chiz rumor then immediately started a thread saying he's often passed false info that even he doesn't believe but he still passes it on to us because it's for the good of the university so.... it seems like Chiz is a smoke screen. Plus, why be so careful to not reveal a name if the name isn't currently coaching? My money is on Napier and I'm very hopeful that's right

[MrKotter]

Thank you Joe 17d over Key year 1... Key knew as long as Joe was at MSU, he wasn't gonna get a chance to see the field. Joe has shown he won't put the best QB in or take a QB out when he's stinking up the place. And who wants to waist their whole career on the bench. 91 is a douche.
Some of you need to realize KT sucks.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Some of you need to realize KT sucks.

I don't get why KT is such a bipolar figure. On the one hand you say he sucks, but aside from 2 game as a true Fr and 1 game at the start of his So year he hasn't had any opportunities to gain experience and get comfortable.

On the flip side people point to his literal HS days to say "He's a winner!" as if every QB of a state champion FB team would be a solid SEC QB. People say he has that "it" factor based on nothing, say he's a better runner than Fitz based on exactly 0 runs Fitz or Shrader couldn't make, and say passing % doesn't matter as long as you're a "winner", as if actually completing passes has no beating on winning.

Personally, when I've seen KT I've seen a decent (NOT otherworldly) runner who is slow to process information and is very inaccurate passing. Shrader is a better athlete, passer, scrambler, and processes info quicker.

KT probably would have done great under Mullen because Mullen could develop and gameplan away from a QB's flaws. But overall I fail to see what makes KT a good QB, and I don't think he's been given enough time for us to say he suck

[bulldawg28]

Shrader did take the job has outperformed KT and a few people still bitched about it.

When did this happen if they've never competed head to head other than spring practice? I guess you refuse to believe what people are saying about the situation. It's not been competition prevailed.

[bulldawg28]

No because KT got suspended.

And KT played last year in 8 games I believe. Including against Texas A&M.

8 games last year? Who were you watching?

[Cowbell]

Some of you need to realize KT sucks.

I love it how you internet warriors want to crash on one of our own kids. I bet you are a real bada$$. Nobody sucks that has won the only two games they?ve started, one against a good team. He may not be as good as another QB on roster, but he has potential and saying the kid sucks pretty much shows your own ignorance.

[weblow]

I've tried to get someone who says they are in the know, to take a guess. Crickets. Now I think it's funny that the same ones are bashing GP for not naming names are the same ones not naming names. That's rich. Guess we will know soon enough and then the revisionist history of confirming what they already knew can begin. Amazing the street cred you can build up when you have 20/20 hindsight that you pass off as being in the know.

I don?t usually post but i have read this entire thread and i have got to say that bobcat91, you gotta be the largest scaled box of dildos on the internet. Son, give your phone back to your mother, and pursue another hobby.

Your take on multiple things in this thread is that of a psych patient or a fanzanoon.

Sir step away from the computer and tell your parents you need your diaper changed. Jesus what an idiot

[Dawgfan77]

I simply brought news about our new coach and it turned into a KT bashing? Why?
Have you thought about that the new coach could re recruit KT.

[DownwardDawg]

I simply brought news about our new coach and it turned into a KT bashing? Why?
Have you thought about that the new coach could re recruit KT.

Absolutely. And while I read this shit show of a thread (especially the last few pages), all I could think of is that maybe KT will stay now. We need him.

[DogsofAnarchy]

I don?t usually post but i have read this entire thread and i have got to say that bobcat91, you gotta be the largest scaled box of dildos on the internet. Son, give your phone back to your mother, and pursue another hobby.

Your take on multiple things in this thread is that of a psych patient or a fanzanoon.

Sir step away from the computer and tell your parents you need your diaper changed. Jesus what an idiot

Clearly a post of the year candidate!! Cheers to you Sir!! Rep Given!!

[bulldog20]

I've tried to get someone who says they are in the know, to take a guess. Crickets. Now I think it's funny that the same ones are bashing GP for not naming names are the same ones not naming names. That's rich. Guess we will know soon enough and then the revisionist history of confirming what they already knew can begin. Amazing the street cred you can build up when you have 20/20 hindsight that you pass off as being in the know.


Who hurt you??

[bobcat91]

I said 2 things and a lot of you guys went crazy. All I pointed out was that no one can say who the coach is, even though several claim to know, and that I dont think KT is an SEC QB. And some of you disagree. Wow, I was unaware that ED was simply a place for mindless group think. But to each of you and yours, have a Happy Thanksgiving and safe travels. Hail State!

[BhamDawg205]

I said 2 things and a lot of you guys went crazy. All I pointed out was that no one can say who the coach is, even though several claim to know, and that I dont think KT is an SEC QB. And some of you disagree. Wow, I was unaware that ED was simply a place for mindless group think. But to each of you and yours, have a Happy Thanksgiving and safe travels. Hail State!

Happy Thanksgiving... But if you would have posted like this earlier it wouldn't gotten so out of hand. With that said a Healthy debate is always good. Hail State, let's hope today is a win win.

[KOdawg1]

I said 2 things and a lot of you guys went crazy. All I pointed out was that no one can say who the coach is, even though several claim to know, and that I dont think KT is an SEC QB. And some of you disagree. Wow, I was unaware that ED was simply a place for mindless group think. But to each of you and yours, have a Happy Thanksgiving and safe travels. Hail State!

No you said KT was a bitch. And you still haven't clarified as to how.

[phatdog]

Here?s the deal folks. We are Making a change and I?m not going to put my sources or the guy out there because all theses searches and quick hires can be fluid. I am super excited about the guy and I?m excited about us making a change mainly. Again if someone else wants to out the name cool. But I?m not gonna risk this falling apart because the name is leaked on a board. Just know change is coming and I?m sure the next 24 hours the name will get out as well as other changes along the landscape of college football.

Patience my friends

BULLSHIT

[NaborhoodDawg]

So which is it Dawgfan77 or C34? We still making a change or what? Don’t go silent just because it looks like ya’ll were wrong. Let us know what’s up.

[Turfdawg67]

So which is it Dawgfan77 or C34? We still making a change or what? Don’t go silent just because it looks like ya’ll were wrong. Let us know what’s up.

They are scrambling because their sources are full of sh*t or think they wield more power than they actually do.

[Dawgfan77]

I have posted and continued to post it. Call it bullshit all you want I don?t care. I stand by my sources right or wrong. Those that think this shit happens as quickly as you want, well you don?t follow coaching decisions. If no change is made by Tuesday then come at me until then watch what happens

[msstate7]

I have posted and continued to post it. Call it bullshit all you want I don?t care. I stand by my sources right or wrong. Those that think this shit happens as quickly as you want, well you don?t follow coaching decisions. If no change is made by Tuesday then come at me until then watch what happens
Well I can tell you believe what you're saying... I respect you standing by it here when everyone seems to be saying you're wrong

[DownwardDawg]

BULLSHIT

So you’ve got an awesome source? Or is this just another emotional post? Because neither side has been proven right or wrong yet.