Sunday Morning QB- It's Almost Over Edition

[Coach34]

1. Steak and crab. Great day food wise

2. I didnt watch much of that shit last night. We just arent enjoyable to watch and LSU/Tennessee were better games. Plus, I had money of Tenn.

3. It took us 3 possessions to score on a 1-AA team with a losing record. How awful is that? We scored the same amount against them as Houston Baptist did. And needed a big 4th Q to do it. It was 28-7 after 3 Q's. That's how bad we are. Struggled to put a 5-6 1-AA team away.

4. Stevens was 13/27 against a team that allowed Houston Baptist to score 45 points and gave up 66 to a bad Arizona team. Thank goodness JoVester got the QB he needs for his offense huh and got rid of Fitz?

5. Dantzler was out last night but was well enough to jump up and down on the sidelines to get hyped and cheer? Ok. He may as well come out for Sr Day Thursday.

6. It's Egg Bowl Week. Yay. I dont think we are as good as they are and will have a tough time stopping them. But we are at home- which helps- and they are not very good on D. So it should be interesting. I wont be there- I refuse to watch them win a 3rd straight EB on our field.

7. We also get to face a motivated guy at QB that we told couldnt play QB here. Shirley he wont be fired up about that huh?

8. People keep calling OM a 4-7 team. OK. Had they started the season with Plumlee they would be at least a 6-5 team right now. Think about this- We are at home against a 4 win team and the most we will be favored by is 3 points. I expect it to be closer to pick'em- especially by KO.

9. I watched Penn State yesterday- their offense does a lot more things than we do. They hit a lot of slants, use motion, and use more formations than we do. Also see a lot more 2 high in Big Ten football than in the SEC.

10. Epstein didn't kill himself


HailState

[dawgday166]

Explain the "It's Almost Over" part. Just the season or is better news implied here?

[KOdawg1]

Still think we make a move with a loss?

[calidawg]

Everyone is so blinded by hate across message boards its pathetic. We will be favored by over a touchdown, destroy OM, and Joe will be our coach next year. Get over it.

[Bubb Rubb]

7. We also get to face a motivated guy at QB that we told couldnt play QB here. Shirley he wont be fired up about that huh?



He'll be fired up, but this won't be the reason. It was Mullen that wanted him, but not at QB. When Georgia threw a gray shirt at him, Moorhead went after him pretty hard as a QB. So he won't be coming in here with a chip on his shoulder because this coaching staff didn't think he could play QB. If they were playing Florida instead? Maybe.

[Bubb Rubb]

Everyone is so blinded by hate across message boards its pathetic. We will be favored by over a touchdown, destroy OM, and Joe will be our coach next year. Get over it.

We will be favored by 3 or 4. On a neutral field it would be a pick 'em. And Moorhead should get fired for that alone.

[Hambone]

If Plumlee has been the starter all year, they would have the same record. Every team would go in knowing the dude can’t pass and would load the box.

I thought you were a coach??? Probably why your watching on Saturday instead of coaching......

[dantheman4248]

10. Epstein didn't kill himself


HailState

Best point you've had all season.

[Coach34]

If Plumlee has been the starter all year, they would have the same record. Every team would go in knowing the dude can’t pass and would load the box.

I thought you were a coach??? Probably why your watching on Saturday instead of coaching......

LSU knew he couldn't throw either. How did that turn out?

[Jarius]

Everyone is so blinded by hate across message boards its pathetic. We will be favored by over a touchdown, destroy OM, and Joe will be our coach next year. Get over it.

We are favored by a point.

[dawgday166]

He'll be fired up, but this won't be the reason. It was Mullen that wanted him, but not at QB. When Georgia threw a gray shirt at him, Moorhead went after him pretty hard as a QB. So he won't be coming in here with a chip on his shoulder because this coaching staff didn't think he could play QB. If they were playing Florida instead? Maybe.

LOL .. you're saying Joe offered Plumlee as a QB? I have an impossible time believing that one now.

[KOdawg1]

If Plumlee has been the starter all year, they would have the same record. Every team would go in knowing the dude can’t pass and would load the box.

I thought you were a coach??? Probably why your watching on Saturday instead of coaching......
OM beats Memphis with Plumlee. Easily. They didn't know who they were yet.

[Coach34]

We will be favored by 3 or 4. On a neutral field it would be a pick 'em. And Moorhead should get fired for that alone.

One Vegas casino had it at 1.5 earlier this week.

[Coach34]

OM beats Memphis with Plumlee. Easily. They didn't know who they were yet.

They would have beaten Cal also

[Bubb Rubb]

LOL .. you're saying Joe offered Plumlee as a QB? I have an impossible time believing that one now.

Yes he did. Joe made a late push for him but got in it too late.

[Bubb Rubb]

One Vegas casino had it at 1.5 earlier this week.

So it's even worse than I thought. They'd be favored on a neutral field.

[TrapGame]

#9. I think Franklin had no problem letting Joe go. He thought he was getting an offensive savant and got a football egghead that has trouble getting out of his own way. Franklin retooled that offense to fit his players and let Joe call plays based on that.

[KOdawg1]

LOL .. you're saying Joe offered Plumlee as a QB? I have an impossible time believing that one now.
He did but it was too little, too late. How he would've fit into this system, idk, but we started recruiting him as a QB at the end.

Plumlee will have to quit baseball if he wants to be a starting QB in the SEC. That's not a job you can half-way pay attention to

[Coach34]

Explain the "It's Almost Over" part. Just the season or is better news implied here?

I have people saying otherwise- but if we win Sat I'll believe we fire him when I see it. If we lose? Gonna be a lot of phone calls, texts, and meetings the few days after.

[DogsofAnarchy]

He'll be fired up, but this won't be the reason. It was Mullen that wanted him, but not at QB. When Georgia threw a gray shirt at him, Moorhead went after him pretty hard as a QB. So he won't be coming in here with a chip on his shoulder because this coaching staff didn't think he could play QB. If they were playing Florida instead? Maybe.

Lol

[DogsofAnarchy]

Everyone is so blinded by hate across message boards its pathetic. We will be favored by over a touchdown, destroy OM, and Joe will be our coach next year. Get over it.

Lol Hahahaha....

[TrapGame]

Everyone is so blinded by hate across message boards its pathetic. We will be favored by over a touchdown, destroy OM, and Joe will be our coach next year. Get over it.

This so much more than beating a 4-7 team for a bowl game.

[Homedawg]

Everyone is so blinded by hate across message boards its pathetic. We will be favored by over a touchdown, destroy OM, and Joe will be our coach next year. Get over it.

Well mr smart guy the line opened at us favored by 1.5. So you are 0-1.

[tcdog70]

He did but it was too little, too late. How he would've fit into this system, idk, but we started recruiting him as a QB at the end.

Plumlee will have to quit baseball if he wants to be a starting QB in the SEC. That's not a job you can half-way pay attention to


Archie did it and Elway did it (not sec) just saying

[KOdawg1]

Archie did it and Elway did it (not sec) just saying
Plumlee isn't Archie or Elway

[Bubb Rubb]

Plumlee isn't Archie or Elway

and it's not 1967, or even 1978 anymore, either.

[Coach34]

and it's not 1967, or even 1978 anymore, either.

Winston and Murray did a decent job of it

[Bubb Rubb]

Winston and Murray did a decent job of it

Yeah, Plumlee is no Kyler Murray. He throws more like Anne Murray.

[ShotgunDawg]

Yeah, Plumlee is no Kyler Murray. He throws more like Anne Murray.

Plumlee is Eric Crouch. He'd take 1995 Nebraska to the natty

[calidawg]

Well mr smart guy the line opened at us favored by 1.5. So you are 0-1.

Good since that was the one I cared about least.

This isn't directed at you, but to the board as a whole. People who wish we lose to OM are so delusional it's insane. The whole point of playing games is to win the games. People who want to lose "for the betterment of the program" are a joke. Firing an MSU coach after going 6-6 and a bowl game is a joke. It's not "big picture" thinking. It's ignorance. People complaining about beating a team 45-7 are a joke. I will not be happy if we beat OM and fire the coach and most rational people outside of message boards agree with this.

[Coach34]

Yeah, Plumlee is no Kyler Murray. He throws more like Anne Murray.

He is 31/54 (57.4%) 333 yards in his last 3 games- which include Auburn and LSU. Some of you guys are letting your OM hate cloud facts. I'm expecting him to look like Fitz did in Oxford ala 2016 Thursday. Better get ready

[Bubb Rubb]

Good since that was the one I cared about least.

This isn't directed at you, but to the board as a whole. People who wish we lose to OM are so delusional it's insane. The whole point of playing games is to win the games. People who want to lose "for the betterment of the program" are a joke. Firing an MSU coach after going 6-6 and a bowl game is a joke. It's not "big picture" thinking. It's ignorance. People complaining about beating a team 45-7 are a joke. I will not be happy if we beat OM and fire the coach and most rational people outside of message boards agree with this.

Bless your heart.

[calidawg]

Good since that was the one I cared about least.

This isn't directed at you, but to the board as a whole. People who wish we lose to OM are so delusional it's insane. The whole point of playing games is to win the games. People who want to lose "for the betterment of the program" are a joke. Firing an MSU coach after going 6-6 and a bowl game is a joke. It's not "big picture" thinking. It's ignorance. People complaining about beating a team 45-7 are a joke. I will not be happy if we beat OM and fire the coach and most rational people outside of message boards agree with this.

I just want to continue my rant while were at it. Going 4-8 and a blowout loss to OM now THAT's warranted for a firing. That was what Croom did in 08. If we go 6-6 with a WIN over OM then it is 100% SHORT SIGHTED thinking to fire a coach. Arkansas is going to go 2-10 this year THAT is warranted for firing. If we get blown out by OM and go 5-7, I and most rational people will at least entertain a firing, but am in no way 100% for it.

[Bubb Rubb]

He is 31/54 (57.4%) 333 yards in his last 3 games- which include Auburn and LSU. Some of you guys are letting your OM hate cloud facts. I'm expecting him to look like Fitz did in Oxford ala 2016 Thursday. Better get ready

So, 111 passing yards per game? Look, I'm not disputing that he's talented, nor that Ole Miss would have been much better had they gone with him from the beginning. I expect him to run all over us. But it's way too early to anoint him, especially because he put up a bunch of yards and points in garbage time against LSU. His success to this point has more to do with defenses not being fully prepared to face him.

[Really Clark?]

Good since that was the one I cared about least.

This isn't directed at you, but to the board as a whole. People who wish we lose to OM are so delusional it's insane. The whole point of playing games is to win the games. People who want to lose "for the betterment of the program" are a joke. Firing an MSU coach after going 6-6 and a bowl game is a joke. It's not "big picture" thinking. It's ignorance. People complaining about beating a team 45-7 are a joke. I will not be happy if we beat OM and fire the coach and most rational people outside of message boards agree with this.

That’s completely false. Most rational people think we CANNOT fire him if he wins Thur not that they will mad if we do. There are tons of people who have expressed that on here, stands, at water cooler....but they would not be upset at all if we part ways even with a win. Just don’t think we will and think it would be tough for to do so.

[Todd4State]

I just want to continue my rant while were at it. Going 4-8 and a blowout loss to OM now THAT's warranted for a firing. That was what Croom did in 08. If we go 6-6 with a WIN over OM then it is 100% SHORT SIGHTED thinking to fire a coach. Arkansas is going to go 2-10 this year THAT is warranted for firing. If we get blown out by OM and go 5-7, I and most rational people will at least entertain a firing, but am in no way 100% for it.

I do think you have to look at the big picture and there are some very concerning things there. I don’t think we can fix the discipline or the lack of preparation on game day without Joe leaving.

To your point there are some encouraging signs as well- seventh in the SEC in PPG and third in rushing. Recruiting is improving. There are some things that are “explainable” with the defense and Tutor Gate. And then special teams and S&C can be fixed with different hires.

But the things I mentioned in the first paragraph are non-negotiables if you are going to succeed as a head football coach anywhere. And that’s why personally I think it would be best if Joe moved on.

[Coach34]

So, 111 passing yards per game? Look, I'm not disputing that he's talented, nor that Ole Miss would have been much better had they gone with him from the beginning. I expect him to run all over us. But it's way too early to anoint him, especially because he put up a bunch of yards and points in garbage time against LSU. His success to this point has more to do with defenses not being fully prepared to face him.

He's averaging 232 ypg in TO as a starting QB. That's pretty good for a true freshman who is getting better. I like our true freshman too. Wish he played more. Both schools have a bright future at QB.

[Todd4State]

That’s completely false. Most rational people think we CANNOT fire him if he wins Thur not that they will mad if we do. There are tons of people who have expressed that on here, stands, at water cooler....but they would not be upset at all if we part ways even with a win. Just don’t think we will and think it would be tough for to do so.

I think any firing is a tough decision. But the good news is there are other ways for people to leave jobs. If he finishes with 6 wins this year following up an 8 win season I could definitely see him landing another job. Look at coaches like Sonny Dykes, Charlie Strong, and Skip Holtz. Heck look at what Ed Orgeron did at Ole Miss for goodness sakes.

[Really Clark?]

I think any firing is a tough decision. But the good news is there are other ways for people to leave jobs. If he finishes with 6 wins this year following up an 8 win season I could definitely see him landing another job. Look at coaches like Sonny Dykes, Charlie Strong, and Skip Holtz. Heck look at what Ed Orgeron did at Ole Miss for goodness sakes.

I agree but those 3 were fired at Cal, Texas and USF, they didn’t leave on their own for another job

[Bubb Rubb]

He's averaging 232 ypg in TO as a starting QB. That's pretty good for a true freshman who is getting better. I like our true freshman too. Wish he played more. Both schools have a bright future at QB.

I don't dispute that he's talented, again. But you're moving the goalposts. My original point was that he doesn't throw the ball well. And he doesn't. You threw out his passing stats, which kinda proved my point, and now you're talking about total offense, which is primarily rushing yards.

Garrett Shrader is infinitely better at this point. He just needs to get his act together off the field.

Ole Miss will probably beat us and Plumlee will probably have a big day. But if that happens, it won't be because he is a great player. It will be because this coaching staff is inept and has to go.

[calidawg]

I do think you have to look at the big picture and there are some very concerning things there. I don’t think we can fix the discipline or the lack of preparation on game day without Joe leaving.

To your point there are some encouraging signs as well- seventh in the SEC in PPG and third in rushing. Recruiting is improving. There are some things that are “explainable” with the defense and Tutor Gate. And then special teams and S&C can be fixed with different hires.

But the things I mentioned in the first paragraph are non-negotiables if you are going to succeed as a head football coach anywhere. And that’s why personally I think it would be best if Joe moved on.

I do not disagree that there needs to be some improvements. Your 2nd paragraph is what most "fans" blindly ignore. People on message boards are completely shunned by pointing out any positives at all. It's mob mentality thinking.

You said "best if Joe moved on" OK him leaving on his own accord for another job is something else entirely. I don't blame him if he wants to do that after how our fanbase has treated him. I'm specifically referring to the FIRE HIM crowd.

[Bothrops]

We won't fire him if we pull a miraculous win Thursday.

I doubt Plumlee will be able to make it two more years as a starter. The injury bug will bite him at some point. Too small to take the hits he has coming in the future. That said, I don't think we hit him much Thursday night.

[Coach34]

I don't dispute that he's talented, again. But you're moving the goalposts. My original point was that he doesn't throw the ball well. And he doesn't. You threw out his passing stats, which kinda proved my point, and now you're talking about total offense, which is primarily rushing yards.

Garrett Shrader is infinitely better at this point. He just needs to get his act together off the field.

Ole Miss will probably beat us and Plumlee will probably have a big day. But if that happens, it won't be because he is a great player. It will be because this coaching staff is inept and has to go.

I never claimed he was Dan Marino. I pointed out that in his last 3 games- he is completing passes at a 57% clip- which is better than Stevens- our passing QB- has been in last 3 games. To act like the guy is awful is not being very truthful.


He and Shrader are about the same right now. Shrader is a little better passer at this point- Plumlee is the better runner and home run threat Shrader isn't.

[cheewgumm]

States football team is not our local high school team and Joe is not the gym teacher who is coaching football. I think some of our fans treat it that way and think ?just pull for your team and all will work out?. States team is more like a pro team. Joe makes $3m. He?s not being treated unfairly because people question the job he?s doing. It?s part of the job.

Have blind faith with your high school team. Don?t have it with State and States administration.

[tcdog70]

Plumlee isn't Archie or Elway

Brilliant come back. Wtf does that mean? I just proved what you said isn't exactly correct. Time will tell on Plumlee.

[Homedawg]

Good since that was the one I cared about least.

This isn't directed at you, but to the board as a whole. People who wish we lose to OM are so delusional it's insane. The whole point of playing games is to win the games. People who want to lose "for the betterment of the program" are a joke. Firing an MSU coach after going 6-6 and a bowl game is a joke. It's not "big picture" thinking. It's ignorance. People complaining about beating a team 45-7 are a joke. I will not be happy if we beat OM and fire the coach and most rational people outside of message boards agree with this.

I've already gone in the record I can't cheer against us. I want to win..... and I'd love to see him go. But I'll cheer for the W.

[Bubb Rubb]

I never claimed he was Dan Marino. I pointed out that in his last 3 games- he is completing passes at a 57% clip- which is better than Stevens- our passing QB- has been in last 3 games. To act like the guy is awful is not being very truthful.

The guy is awful throwing the ball. I don't get your point in bringing up Stevens except to move the goalposts again, because Stevens has sucked himself. But Stevens throws the ball downfield a lot more than Plumlee. If he was averaging 120 ypg on the ground and everything he threw were quick slants and screens, his completion percentage would be better too. Everything Plumlee throws is quick hit stuff - which is smart for Rodriguez to ask him to do. That is the reason he has a 57% completion rate (which actually isn't very good for the type of offense he's running).

[tcdog70]

Yeah, Plumlee is no Kyler Murray. He throws more like Anne Murray.

Dammit, some of you boys need come up with better retorts. If you or anyone can't see Plumlee is a huge talent then you are just in Rebel denial. The Statement was a Qb couldn't play 2 sports but that has been proven to be bullshit. Matt Jones is another that played 2 sports. Plumlee is no Kyler Murray--no shit Sherlock--but what point is that in the discussion at hand.

[KOdawg1]

Brilliant come back. Wtf does that mean? I just proved what you said isn't exactly correct. Time will tell on Plumlee.
It means exactly what it means. Those guys were special talents. They could balance both. I don't believe Plumlee can. You're right, time will tell. I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Chill out

[KOdawg1]

This has turned into a dual sport discussion instead of a Mississippi State discussion. Wish I hadn't said anything about Plumlee.

Back to what really matters, do you guys in the know believe we move quickly if we cut ties after Thursday?

[Todd4State]

I do not disagree that there needs to be some improvements. Your 2nd paragraph is what most "fans" blindly ignore. People on message boards are completely shunned by pointing out any positives at all. It's mob mentality thinking.

You said "best if Joe moved on" OK him leaving on his own accord for another job is something else entirely. I don't blame him if he wants to do that after how our fanbase has treated him. I'm specifically referring to the FIRE HIM crowd.

You’re correct. The problem is MSU fans are so black and white when it comes to things. You can still see positives and come to the conclusion that someone isn’t the right fit.


This has turned into a dual sport discussion instead of a Mississippi State discussion. Wish I hadn't said anything about Plumlee.

Back to what really matters, do you guys in the know believe we move quickly if we cut ties after Thursday?

Based on Cohen’s other searches- yes.

[Todd4State]

I agree but those 3 were fired at Cal, Texas and USF, they didn?t leave on their own for another job

That?s true and they were all still able to land decent jobs. Joe should be able to do the same with his current resume as well assuming he isn?t fired.

[Really Clark?]

That?s true and they were all still able to land decent jobs. Joe should be able to do the same with his current resume as well assuming he isn?t fired.

Maybe. Dykes had to wait a year, served as an analyst at TCU in 2017. But I don’t see him dropping down from SEC with our contract in hand to drop from a P5 school to a G5 with a massive pay cut. Which is where all those guys are coaching now. Rutgers is about 95% out as far as Joe is concerned. So what will he his options? BC or Ill maybe at best? Assuming they will open up.

[msudawg1200]

Dude, on numbers 3 and 4 you got bad intel. ACU beat Houston Baptist 45-20. They beat Arizona Christian 66-14. They didn?t play the Arizona Wildcats. If you?re going to shit on the team at least have your shit straight.

[Todd4State]

Maybe. Dykes had to wait a year, served as an analyst at TCU in 2017. But I don’t see him dropping down from SEC with our contract in hand to drop from a P5 school to a G5 with a massive pay cut. Which is where all those guys are coaching now. Rutgers is about 95% out as far as Joe is concerned. So what will he his options? BC or Ill maybe at best? Assuming they will open up.

I was going to say Illinois or BC.

[Coach34]

I was going to say Illinois or BC.

I don't think Illinois comes open. Lovie has them going bowling. UMass would be a good fit

[Todd4State]

I don't think Illinois comes open. Lovie has them going bowling. UMass would be a good fit

True. I think he will find a place to land regardless.

[OLJWales]

He is 31/54 (57.4%) 333 yards in his last 3 games- which include Auburn and LSU. Some of you guys are letting your OM hate cloud facts. I'm expecting him to look like Fitz did in Oxford ala 2016 Thursday. Better get ready

God I wished you were wrong on this. It's seems apparent you are right unfortunately. I'm hoping some of those passing stats were when LSU's and AU's D's were playing soft while having big leads. But the YTD paper has them whipping our asses. Our D is much worse than LSU's and AU's even when they may be playing soft with a big lead.

[OLJWales]

Dude, on numbers 3 and 4 you got bad intel. ACU beat Houston Baptist 45-20. They beat Arizona Christian 66-14. They didn?t play the Arizona Wildcats. If you?re going to shit on the team at least have your shit straight.

AC lost to Incarnate Word. And to Central Ar; And to Lamar; And Sam Houston by 2 TD's.

[TrapGame]

I don't think Illinois comes open. Lovie has them going bowling. UMass would be a good fit

I think Joe has another job lined up. Everyone is so sure he wants to be here. No, he doesn't. The SEC was nothing like he thought it would be. We literally play a different brand of football in this conference. I'm going with UMass as well but it wouldn't surprise me if he goes to Rutgers.

[RezDog7]

31-7 when LSU still gave a shit. Good gawd man.

[Coach34]

Everyone is so blinded by hate across message boards its pathetic. We will be favored by over a touchdown, destroy OM, and Joe will be our coach next year. Get over it.

Nostradamus you aint.

[msudawg1200]

AC lost to Incarnate Word. And to Central Ar; And to Lamar; And Sam Houston by 2 TD's.

And your point is? I wasn?t saying they are 95 Nebraska. I was saying if you?re going to use stats and scores to make it look bad at least use scores that happened.

[OLJWales]

And your point is? I wasn?t saying they are 95 Nebraska. I was saying if you?re going to use stats and scores to make it look bad at least use scores that happened.

touche

[War Machine Dawg]

1. Steak and crab. Great day food wise

2. I didnt watch much of that shit last night. We just arent enjoyable to watch and LSU/Tennessee were better games. Plus, I had money of Tenn.

3. It took us 3 possessions to score on a 1-AA team with a losing record. How awful is that? We scored the same amount against them as Houston Baptist did. And needed a big 4th Q to do it. It was 28-7 after 3 Q's. That's how bad we are. Struggled to put a 5-6 1-AA team away.

4. Stevens was 13/27 against a team that allowed Houston Baptist to score 45 points and gave up 66 to a bad Arizona team. Thank goodness JoVester got the QB he needs for his offense huh and got rid of Fitz?

5. Dantzler was out last night but was well enough to jump up and down on the sidelines to get hyped and cheer? Ok. He may as well come out for Sr Day Thursday.

6. It's Egg Bowl Week. Yay. I dont think we are as good as they are and will have a tough time stopping them. But we are at home- which helps- and they are not very good on D. So it should be interesting. I wont be there- I refuse to watch them win a 3rd straight EB on our field.

7. We also get to face a motivated guy at QB that we told couldnt play QB here. Shirley he wont be fired up about that huh?

8. People keep calling OM a 4-7 team. OK. Had they started the season with Plumlee they would be at least a 6-5 team right now. Think about this- We are at home against a 4 win team and the most we will be favored by is 3 points. I expect it to be closer to pick'em- especially by KO.

9. I watched Penn State yesterday- their offense does a lot more things than we do. They hit a lot of slants, use motion, and use more formations than we do. Also see a lot more 2 high in Big Ten football than in the SEC.

10. Epstein didn't kill himself


HailState

4. He has completely destroyed our QB position. Key & Moose are transferring, Tommy Boy graduates, and I wouldn't be surprised if Shrader follows Jughead wherever he lands. That leaves us without a scholarship QB next year. Glad we brought in a nuclear engineer like Tommy Boy who understands the Chernobyl Offense. Don't know how bad this O would be without him.****

6. They're going to skull17 us. We're done and just going through the motions and they'll be amped up to play spoiler for our bowl streak.

[Sienfield]

I don't think JoMo will be fired if we beat OM. That would be firing a coach who was undefeated against OM and had gone to two strait bowls. I'm not saying he shouldn't be though.

[Schultzy]

4. He has completely destroyed our QB position. Key & Moose are transferring, Tommy Boy graduates, and I wouldn't be surprised if Shrader follows Jughead wherever he lands. That leaves us without a scholarship QB next year. Glad we brought in a nuclear engineer like Tommy Boy who understands the Chernobyl Offense. Don't know how bad this O would be without him.****

6. They're going to skull17 us. We're done and just going through the motions and they'll be amped up to play spoiler for our bowl streak.

I'm not sure Moorhead would take Schrader with him, he's benching him now bc he won't do his mandatory assigned homework on opposing defenses.