Harvard vs Yale

[Cooterpoot]

Game shutdown because there?s apparently a student protest in the middle of the field. And these are the ?smart? kids.

[Msujd164]

Arrest all their asses. Pretty sure there’s an announcement before games saying if you ever playing area, you are subject to arrest.

[TUSK]

any idea if the playing surface is tolerant to snow...?

in.

[Saltydog]

Nice....I'll rep you for that....

[Gutter Cobreh]

any idea if the playing surface is tolerant to snow...?

in.

Well done!

[OLJWales]

they prolly wanting The Star Spangled Banner replaced with a few minutes of readings from Karl Marx's Manifesto.

[ShotgunDawg]

Everyone loses & goes broke in woke, cancel culture.

Complain all you want & there are certainly things to complain about, but it's bad for business & will eventually destroy economies if done on a large enough scale

[Todd4State]

any idea if the playing surface is tolerant to snow...?

in.

Hilarious!

[Saltydog]

I prefer a more "aggressive, hands on" approach in these situations. Batons, tasers and tear gas would've expedited this situation. Now they're saying they may not be able to finish the game due to darkness because the field doesn't have lights.

[Commercecomet24]

Can you imagine students trying to stage a protest like this at a game in the sec? It would be very entertaining lol

[somebodyshotmypaw]

They are protesting Harvard and Yale's use of fossil fuels and contribution to climate change. They should be arrested and booted from school. But they will be hailed as heroes.

[msstate7]

They are protesting Harvard and Yale's use of fossil fuels and contribution to climate change. They should be arrested and booted from school. But they will be hailed as heroes.

Be pretty crappy to boot them from school when it's really the school getting these kids wound up like wind up toys

[starkvegasdawg]

They are protesting Harvard and Yale's use of fossil fuels and contribution to climate change. They should be arrested and booted from school. But they will be hailed as heroes.

I guess they all walked to the game and their apartments all are without electricity. I say resume the game and let the players call run some draws up the middle into the protestors. Nothing would test their dedication like a cleat in the forehead.

[Cloak]

any idea if the playing surface is tolerant to snow...?

in.

LOL

[LC Dawg]

Someone should tell them a better protest would be to never charge their phones or laptops.

[dantheman4248]

It's like people here don't understand how a protest works...

The world does need to undergo serious change if we want it to last to 2100 and be livable. The problem is more China than us as we've done a lot but thinking these kids deserve to be arrested and have lives ruined because they care and are protesting in a disruptive yet peaceful manner is dangerous thinking. It's the same train of thought as what is happening in Hong Kong currently and last I checked we don't want to be a communist dictatorship.

[OLJWales]

They are protesting Harvard and Yale's use of fossil fuels and contribution to climate change. They should be arrested and booted from school. But they will be hailed as heroes.

I bet Al Gore's Carbon Footprint's biggern Yales.

[parabrave]

Everyone loses & goes broke in woke, cancel culture.

Complain all you want & there are certainly things to complain about, but it's bad for business & will eventually destroy economies if done on a large enough scale

Except Soros. Hes hedging on it, plus he paying the SJWs.

[Cooterpoot]

It's like people here don't understand how a protest works...

The world does need to undergo serious change if we want it to last to 2100 and be livable. The problem is more China than us as we've done a lot but thinking these kids deserve to be arrested and have lives ruined because they care and are protesting in a disruptive yet peaceful manner is dangerous thinking. It's the same train of thought as what is happening in Hong Kong currently and last I checked we don't want to be a communist dictatorship.

STFU
It literally states on the ticket they’ll be subject to arrest.

[OLJWales]

It's like people here don't understand how a protest works...

The world does need to undergo serious change if we want it to last to 2100 and be livable. The problem is more China than us as we've done a lot but thinking these kids deserve to be arrested and have lives ruined because they care and are protesting in a disruptive yet peaceful manner is dangerous thinking. It's the same train of thought as what is happening in Hong Kong currently and last I checked we don't want to be a communist dictatorship.

They don't have the right to disrupt other people's right to gather and have a football game. Breaking laws draw consequences.

[Uncivilengineer]

"The world does need to undergo serious change if we want it to last to 2100 and be livable."
LOLOLOL

Good ole Dan the NPC. Honk. Honk.

[TUSK]

It's like people here don't understand how a protest works...

The world does need to undergo serious change if we want it to last to 2100 and be livable. The problem is more China than us as we've done a lot but thinking these kids deserve to be arrested and have lives ruined because they care and are protesting in a disruptive yet peaceful manner is dangerous thinking. It's the same train of thought as what is happening in Hong Kong currently and last I checked we don't want to be a communist dictatorship.

I think you're on to something here, Dan... If the young adults really believed in this "cause", they'd max out diddy's Amex, fly to Hong Kong and join the protests there...

That'd show "commitment" and "resolve", in my book...

[somebodyshotmypaw]

It's like people here don't understand how a protest works...

The world does need to undergo serious change if we want it to last to 2100 and be livable. The problem is more China than us as we've done a lot but thinking these kids deserve to be arrested and have lives ruined because they care and are protesting in a disruptive yet peaceful manner is dangerous thinking. It's the same train of thought as what is happening in Hong Kong currently and last I checked we don't want to be a communist dictatorship.

The right to swing my fist ends where another man's nose begins. I support their right to protest. But when you are disrupting others, you are the problem rather than the solution. They are disrupting the freedom of others. They aren't protesters, they are criminal trespassers.

[State82]

any idea if the playing surface is tolerant to snow...?

in.

Dang that was funny Tusk. Two thumbs up.

[dantheman4248]

I think you're on to something here, Dan... If the young adults really believed in this "cause", they'd max out diddy's Amex, fly to Hong Kong and join the protests there...

That'd show "commitment" and "resolve", in my book...

They'd just be labeled as rioters and disappear into a re education camp and lose their organs when they don't comply.

The real way to stop the negative effects would be to have China undergo a wholesale change in how much pollution they cause. That means America would have to stop selling out to China. So you gotta cause those in power to change. I agree this is the wrong venue. I actually think the best sporting venue would be an NBA game after what happened this preseason. But you're right in calling out that they are protesting where it's safe for them to get away with it. They've got the right idea but they aren't sold out for their cause and are doing it in not necessarily the best spot.

[dantheman4248]

The right to swing my fist ends where another man's nose begins. I support their right to protest. But when you are disrupting others, you are the problem rather than the solution. They are disrupting the freedom of others. They aren't protesters, they are criminal trespassers.

Everyone who participated in sit-ins in the 60s were criminal trespassers. I dont think you should look at a gray issue as that black and white.

[dantheman4248]

"The world does need to undergo serious change if we want it to last to 2100 and be livable."
LOLOLOL

Good ole Dan the NPC. Honk. Honk.

I don't understand why you think I'm an NPC. I'm not blindly regurgitating one side of an argument the media tells me. I'm actually applying critical thinking skills and understanding that not everything is solely right or wrong.

If anything you're being an NPC with your 1 line of dialogue and lack of thinking skills. So I'm rubber, you're glue.

[TUSK]

They'd just be labeled as rioters and disappear into a re education camp and lose their organs when they don't comply.

Exactly, but what's the downside...?

[dantheman4248]

Exactly, but what's the downside...?

China gets more free labor and money from organs harvested.

[defiantdog]

They'd just be labeled as rioters and disappear into a re education camp and lose their organs when they don't comply.

The real way to stop the negative effects would be to have China undergo a wholesale change in how much pollution they cause. That means America would have to stop selling out to China. So you gotta cause those in power to change. I agree this is the wrong venue. I actually think the best sporting venue would be an NBA game after what happened this preseason. But you're right in calling out that they are protesting where it's safe for them to get away with it. They've got the right idea but they aren't sold out for their cause and are doing it in not necessarily the best spot.
No venue where you?re disrupting others that have paid to view an event is a good venue to protest. You are dictating others rights based on your own views. Protests should be organized and done so in their own organized arena. This is garbage thinking to believe it is okay to dictate your free will against another?s. It is selfish and privileged thinking among those who act on this.

[ShotgunDawg]

Here's the way I see it:

March in front of the White House: Good

March in front of the capitol: Good

Apply for a license to form a peaceful protest on a street: Good

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Block highways when people are trying to get to work: assholes & detrimental to cause

Occupy a football field where people came to have fun: Assholes & detrimental to cause.

Everyone understand? good

[OLJWales]

They'd just be labeled as rioters and disappear into a re education camp and lose their organs when they don't comply.

The real way to stop the negative effects would be to have China undergo a wholesale change in how much pollution they cause. That means America would have to stop selling out to China. So you gotta cause those in power to change. I agree this is the wrong venue. I actually think the best sporting venue would be an NBA game after what happened this preseason. But you're right in calling out that they are protesting where it's safe for them to get away with it. They've got the right idea but they aren't sold out for their cause and are doing it in not necessarily the best spot.

China's pollution should have no impacts on college football games. The negative effects are disruption of a football game. Snowflakes at Harvard disrupting a football game will not even make it to the ears of Chinese leaders. "Not NECESSARILY" the best spot? LOL

[dantheman4248]

No venue where you?re disrupting others that have paid to view an event is a good venue to protest. You are dictating others rights based on your own views. Protests should be organized and done so in their own organized arena. This is garbage thinking to believe it is okay to dictate your free will against another?s. It is selfish and privileged thinking among those who act on this.

You're missing the whole point of what protesting is: Why won't these people try to get their message out somewhere I don't have to see or think about them? That would affect you 0. And hell they really did do that because no way in hell anyone on the MSU board was watching that game. Besides after further research this is pointed directly at getting their board to divest away from fossil fuels so they picked the perfect venue for it to affect solely them and not bother other people. Kudos for doing a protest where you're only really disrupting the people you want to change and not innocent bystanders who had nothing to do with it.

[OLJWales]

You're missing the whole point of what protesting is: Why won't these people try to get their message out somewhere I don't have to see or think about them? That would affect you 0. And hell they really did do that because no way in hell anyone on the MSU board was watching that game. Besides after further research this is pointed directly at getting their board to divest away from fossil fuels so they picked the perfect venue for it to affect solely them and not bother other people. Kudos for doing a protest where you're only really disrupting the people you want to change and not innocent bystanders who had nothing to do with it.

Because their message is total bullshit for starters. If your message is bullshit in the first place with a low % of folks buying in, this is what you have to do in order to "make a statement". If your message is VALID, then LEGAL protests should be good enough. So what's Harvard to do? start using candles? build chimneys for heat? Oh wait, y'all don't like chimneys or grilling out either, right?

[dantheman4248]

Because their message is total bullshit for starters. If your message is bullshit in the first place with a low % of folks buying in, this is what you have to do in order to "make a statement". If your message is VALID, then LEGAL protests should be good enough. So what's Harvard to do? start using candles? build chimneys for heat? Oh wait, y'all don't like chimneys or grilling out either, right?

Uhh they want the endowment to stop investing in fossil fuels. Idk why you are acting like they don't need energy. Nuclear is way cleaner, more efficient, and better for us as a whole than fossil fuels.

[LC Dawg]

You're missing the whole point of what protesting is: Why won't these people try to get their message out somewhere I don't have to see or think about them? That would affect you 0. And hell they really did do that because no way in hell anyone on the MSU board was watching that game. Besides after further research this is pointed directly at getting their board to divest away from fossil fuels so they picked the perfect venue for it to affect solely them and not bother other people. Kudos for doing a protest where you're only really disrupting the people you want to change and not innocent bystanders who had nothing to do with it.

A football field without lights doesn't seem like the perfect venue in which to protest the use of fossil fuels.

[dawgday166]

Maybe this thread should be moved to the Poli board SMH.

[LC Dawg]

Uhh they want the endowment to stop investing in fossil fuels. Idk why you are acting like they don't need energy. Nuclear is way cleaner, more efficient, and better for us as a whole than fossil fuels.

I agree with you on nuclear but if Yale and Harvard ran off 100% nuclear energy and their endowments invested in it it would just be another group of protesters. Most people don't know anything about the power industry and just react to what they are told.

[OLJWales]

Maybe this thread should be moved to the Poli board SMH.

this is what happens when these types of disruptions happen at a sporting event. Especially College football on a Saturday here at ED.

[dantheman4248]

A football field without lights doesn't seem like the perfect venue in which to protest the use of fossil fuels.

If it's specifically related to Harvard & Yale's investments in them then it is. One of the biggest events for their donors and members of the board and you stage a protest during it. Not anywhere else up there would you get these people's attention and have them listen to your cause for it to actually be effective.

[dantheman4248]

I agree with you on nuclear but if Yale and Harvard ran off 100% nuclear energy and their endowments invested in it it would just be another group of protesters. Most people don't know anything about the power industry and just react to what they are told.

I think we as a country are starting to see through the lies about how bad nuclear energy was compared to fossil fuels much in the same way we are starting to see past the timber and tobacco industries' attack on hemp.

[OLJWales]

Uhh they want the endowment to stop investing in fossil fuels. Idk why you are acting like they don't need energy. Nuclear is way cleaner, more efficient, and better for us as a whole than fossil fuels.

They are getting their best bang for their investment bucks so they can shell out $500K per year to profs teaching Greek Philosophy. They preach and teach socialism but behind closed doors they are greedy capitalist spending like glutenous pigs.

[dawgday166]

this is what happens when these types of disruptions happen at a sporting event. Especially College football on a Saturday here at ED.

Well if someone is intent on saving the world I think they can do it without disrupting a football game or a football message board *****

[dantheman4248]

They are getting their best bang for their investment bucks so they can shell out $500K per year to profs teaching Greek Philosophy. They preach and teach socialism but behind closed doors they are greedy capitalist spending like glutenous pigs.

And that's specifically who the students are protesting and targeting today. There was faculty out there with them I read so I believe even some of them are ok with that reduced paycheck for a better conscious.

[OLJWales]

And that's specifically who the students are protesting and targeting today. There was faculty out there with them I read so I believe even some of them are ok with that reduced paycheck for a better conscious.

YOU may believe they are ok with a reduced paycheck but I'm gonna say no they are not. And if all Ivy League schools stopped investing in oil companies for good returns, not one damned polar bear will be effected. Better conscious? come on, try substance over symbolism. it's better and actually works in the real world.

[TUSK]

YOU may believe they are ok with a reduced paycheck but I'm gonna say no they are not. And if all Ivy League schools stopped investing in oil companies for good returns, not one damned polar bear will be effected. Better conscious? come on, try substance over symbolism. it's better and actually works in the real world.

It was a good thread. I will have fond memories of it...

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[Saltydog]

Now you're just making yourself look worse and that's impressive given the fact that you predicted preseason that we were the third best team in the league and would finish 11-1, but carryon.

[dantheman4248]

YOU may believe they are ok with a reduced paycheck but I'm gonna say no they are not. And if all Ivy League schools stopped investing in oil companies for good returns, not one damned polar bear will be effected. Better conscious? come on, try substance over symbolism. it's better and actually works in the real world.

You went ridiculous here for no reason.

I said that "some" of the faculty, ie the ones on the field helping the protest, live their life that way. That's how some people live. The real world is full of people who will sacrifice for a "better life" and higher sense of morality as much as there are people slave to the almighty dollar. Religious organizations are good proof of both sides of that coin.

And I never said what they are doing would actually affect anything greatly. So I don't know why you're preaching about that. My thoughts are that China is the major problem and we're all complicit in selling out to them in one way or another. And it's hard when they have such cheap labor and make so many products for us that outsourcing to them just makes sense.

[dantheman4248]

Now you're just making yourself look worse and that's impressive given the fact that you predicted preseason that we were the third best team in the league and would finish 11-1, but carryon.

The amount of times you fail to read why I came up with that prediction tells me you'd be the perfect QB for Joe next year wherever he goes. By my own measure I had us favored in 8 of our 12 games and the ones we haven't won so far of that are Tennessee and Kansas State. I went with 11-1 because 8-4/9-3/10-2 was going to be filled with people so I said screw it, let's pick something fun. But yea it's my fault this coach wasted the easiest schedule MSU has had in 20 years. 10 very beatable teams on our schedule with our talent and then LSU did actually take the next step and Alabama had its weakest defense in recent history. I like many other swing and missed on believing Moorhead could do something here. Dude can't. So move on.

Also do I at least get credit for calling in the preseason that we would knock out Tua?

[OLJWales]

You went ridiculous here for no reason.

I said that "some" of the faculty, ie the ones on the field helping the protest, live their life that way. That's how some people live. The real world is full of people who will sacrifice for a "better life" and higher sense of morality as much as there are people slave to the almighty dollar. Religious organizations are good proof of both sides of that coin.

And I never said what they are doing would actually affect anything greatly. So I don't know why you're preaching about that. My thoughts are that China is the major problem and we're all complicit in selling out to them in one way or another. And it's hard when they have such cheap labor and make so many products for us that outsourcing to them just makes sense.

You don't know for sure they "live their life that way". Presumptuous for you to automatically assume that. Why the hell do you stop a damned football game if it's not gonna affect anything? Are the protesters bitching about China? Why do you even bring China into this discussion?

[dantheman4248]

You don't know for sure they "live their life that way". Presumptuous for you to automatically assume that.
Dude I'm literally taking their actions at face value. That's like saying it's presumptuous that a mass shooter doesn't have empathy and that I don't know for sure they "live their life that way". These people put their job on the line and protested for something they believed in. It's a safe assumption they value moral well being over a few more dollars.

Why the hell do you stop a damned football game if it's not gonna affect anything?
Because it affects Harvard and Yale directly. I personally don't think it's gonna affect anything but they do. That's just my opinion on it.

Are the protesters bitching about China? Why do you even bring China into this discussion?
Because you're preaching to me like I don't get global warming. I think they're missing the big target and all these small steps won't stop the irreparable harm that China is doing. I'm not one of those kids protesting what they protest. Again you made a wholesale judgment that I sympathize with their ideas exactly. I don't. I just see the merits of a good protest.

[War Machine Dawg]

Welcome to the future. These true believing assclowns are the next generation of politicians. We're well and truly 17d.

[Commercecomet24]

It's like people here don't understand how a protest works...

The world does need to undergo serious change if we want it to last to 2100 and be livable. The problem is more China than us as we've done a lot but thinking these kids deserve to be arrested and have lives ruined because they care and are protesting in a disruptive yet peaceful manner is dangerous thinking. It's the same train of thought as what is happening in Hong Kong currently and last I checked we don't want to be a communist dictatorship.

They're breaking the law man. It's not only disruptive it's illegal. Geez. They can protest on their own time somewhere else.