View Full Version : its pretty sad when i have to start mens bb thread state up 7-2..early
Cloak
11-14-2019, 07:08 PM
Go Dawgs. We look good so far. First time Perry has contributed early
its on SEC network.....just saying
They actually look really good!
Cloak
11-14-2019, 07:16 PM
That was the best dunk I've ever seen by Ado. Physicality, posterized the defender
whos the guy with the jughead hairdo for ul
parabrave
11-14-2019, 07:19 PM
Need to rename thread Tonight game sponsored by Bens Brick laying service. 40% from the field, 6-15.
RocketDawg
11-14-2019, 07:22 PM
Why are some of the guys wearing opaque white pantyhose? Is that a new trend?
we really miss an outside consistent shooter.
so much for us looking really good
Perry needs another year before he declares for NBA
RocketDawg
11-14-2019, 07:35 PM
Nice slam by Stewart.
RocketDawg
11-14-2019, 07:36 PM
I think we just got away with goaltending. He took it off the rim.
Coach34
11-14-2019, 07:42 PM
We can be very good but outside shooting will eventually be this teams undoing. Should be a Tourney team but cant make any kind of run because of the lack of 3 point shooting
MCsMGs
11-14-2019, 08:16 PM
Ado much more aggressive tonight.
MoreCowbell
11-14-2019, 08:19 PM
Serious question, when was the last year we had a good football team/season and a good basketball team/season in the same year? Last year does not count because football was disappointing even though we went 8-5
MoreCowbell
11-14-2019, 08:32 PM
1994. Football went 8-4 and went to a bowl. Basketball went 22-8 and made the big dance.
RocketDawg
11-14-2019, 08:38 PM
The announcers are a bit irritating.
msstate7
11-14-2019, 08:44 PM
Pretty awesome to see Simmons and Jenkins back in Starkville
Percho
11-14-2019, 08:48 PM
Wish we could use them Saturday.
The announcers are a bit irritating.
LOL?.they are ours.
will spoon make that much difference when he gets back?
RocketDawg
11-14-2019, 08:55 PM
Pretty awesome to see Simmons and Jenkins back in Starkville
Yeah, I wonder if that old lady knew she was sitting beside a couple of zillionairs.
RocketDawg
11-14-2019, 08:57 PM
LOL?.they are ours.
I don't care - still not very good. The main announcer is constantly yelling. He's irritating.
The OM guy (Cross) is better.
chef dixon
11-14-2019, 08:58 PM
Why do those 3 freshman we put in at the end of the game look like they?ve never played basketball before? They are all D1 recruits. Looked like when you put all the walk ons in lol
RocketDawg
11-14-2019, 08:58 PM
will spoon make that much difference when he gets back?
Probably not. He's got to be a bit rusty. Looks like he's had time to grow a new hairstyle though.
R2Dawg
11-14-2019, 09:00 PM
There is a lot to like about this team. First MSU team I've seen in a while not play selfish. This team could be special if they gel.
NCMSTFAN
11-14-2019, 09:07 PM
will spoon make that much difference when he gets back?
Yes he will, best defender on the team, a scorer and a leader.. But I do like to see Molinar and DJ getting better and gaining confidence. It will help later against better teams. Also good to get a win with Carter only scoring 6
Lord McBuckethead
11-14-2019, 09:08 PM
Serious question, when was the last year we had a good football team/season and a good basketball team/season in the same year? Last year does not count because football was disappointing even though we went 8-5
Why would last year not count?
Lord McBuckethead
11-14-2019, 09:10 PM
Probably not. He's got to be a bit rusty. Looks like he's had time to grow a new hairstyle though.
Dude is going to be an absolute 17n unit. 20-8-8 guy that dominates the entire league in every way.
basedog
11-14-2019, 09:33 PM
This team has a chance to make some noise this year. Good guard play with some depth especially getting Spoon back.
Best depth we’ve had in a while, play good defense also.
KOdawg1
11-14-2019, 09:35 PM
Pretty awesome to see Simmons and Jenkins back in Starkville
AJ Brown was there too
MoreCowbell
11-14-2019, 09:36 PM
Why would last year not count?
Because while the record was above our historical average it was an utter disappointment. My question should have been when was the last time positive expectations for both teams were met in the same school year?
msstate7
11-14-2019, 09:40 PM
AJ Brown was there too
Lol... WTH!
Todd4State
11-14-2019, 10:35 PM
AJ Brown was there too
Hope Jonathan Abrams wasn't there for his sake. Him bitch slapping AJ in the Egg Bowl last year pretty much makes Abrams one of my all time favorites.
Very rarely does MSU football seem to come through for us and do something that we really want. But Abrams made it happen for me with that moment.
Liverpooldawg
11-14-2019, 11:31 PM
1994. Football went 8-4 and went to a bowl. Basketball went 22-8 and made the big dance.
In other words, last year. Last year was a dang good year, unlike what all the whining here would lead you to believe.
MoreCowbell
11-15-2019, 01:12 AM
In other words, last year. Last year was a dang good year, unlike what all the whining here would lead you to believe.
Refer to my last post
We may not be that great of an offensive team, but we look elite defensively.
NCMSTFAN
11-15-2019, 08:35 AM
Yes we are very good defensively right now. All the guys play hard defensively but DJ Stewart, Molinar and Ado in particular play really well, and adding Weatherspoon back will make us even better on that end. We still have work to do on offense, losing Q, Peters and Holman took a lot of scoring away from last years team. But again, we still have Nick coming back who will help a lot on offense and DJ and Molinar are coming into their own as well on that end. We have to remember, other than Carter, we have no other experienced guards with Nick being out, but the offense will come, Woodard and especially Perry can both put up a lot of points, but it starts with guard play and our guards will continue getting better.
BrunswickDawg
11-15-2019, 08:46 AM
Yes we are very good defensively right now. All the guys play hard defensively but DJ Stewart, Molinar and Ado in particular play really well, and adding Weatherspoon back will make us even better on that end. We still have work to do on offense, losing Q, Peters and Holman took a lot of scoring away from last years team. But again, we still have Nick coming back who will help a lot on offense and DJ and Molinar are coming into their own as well on that end. We have to remember, other than Carter, we have no other experienced guards with Nick being out, but the offense will come, Woodard and especially Perry can both put up a lot of points, but it starts with guard play and our guards will continue getting better.
I didn't watch the whole game - but I was impressed with Ado in what I saw. He seems to be less tentative, and is more aggressive in his game.
NCMSTFAN
11-15-2019, 09:00 AM
I didn't watch the whole game - but I was impressed with Ado in what I saw. He seems to be less tentative, and is more aggressive in his game.
Ado knows his role, he will never be a high level scorer, but what he does best is defends hard, sets good screens and block shots, those things don't show up in the stats (other than blocks). He is averaging 3.7 blocks a game which has him tied for 13th best in the nation with a few guys, he isn't Jarvis Varnado but he can hold his own with the best back there. Yes it is still early but its good to have that rim protector in the back who can clean things up like Ado. I would like to see him become a little more productive on the offensive end still.
Our best on the ball defender right now is DJ Stewart, he is long and very active. He disrupts a lot of guys, last night was my first time getting a chance to watch him other than seeing highlights of him and a little bit of the Sam Houston game. He can score some too and is very athletic, I like the direction he has a potential to go. The more he continues to play, the better he will continue to get. We are still a work in progress but these early games will help. We have to realize we are still very young, our only experienced guy out there is Carter. As good as Perry is and will be, he is only a Sophomore, same with Woodard. DJ and Molinar are both Freshman, Feazell has been around but hasn't played a lot and Ado isn't a scorer so we have a young team who will continue to grow.
Ari Gold
11-15-2019, 11:30 AM
Yes getting Nick back is going to be YUGE...
will he be rusty, yes he will have live Game rust , but he hasn’t been injured.. that’s a huge difference.
The one missing ingredient with this team is another outside shooter.
If Woodard or DJ can start knocking down outside shoots with a little consistency that’s going to be big.
Defense is much better and very good. , we don’t get caught in ball screen mismatches . We are much more athletic on defense. Molinar plays excellent defense for a true freshman . DJ is crazy athletic as well he just needs the game to slow down a little and it will the more PT he gets
It was very important to get a win when Tyson isn’t scoring a lot . And there will be other games when we will have to lean on other guys to make shots.
We did last night what we have to do every game and that’s get Perry involved early scoring so he stays engaged In the game
Dude is a double double every night
And I think when we get Nick back we are going to get up and down the court and push the ball after a missed shot. We showed that a little last night.. We are pretty good in transition offense , we get bogged down in the half court right now esp with Nick out and lack of outside shooting..
Again we will have a few early hiccups , just don’t need to lose to a really bad team in the non conference
It’s going to be a fun year, get the **** to the hump and support this team..
Homedawg
11-15-2019, 12:50 PM
Dude is going to be an absolute 17n unit. 20-8-8 guy that dominates the entire league in every way.
spoon isn't going to be a 20-8-8 guy. Matter of fact he won't avg 20 or 8 or 8, much less all of them at the same time not even close. That's either extreme hyperbole, or you really have never watched him play. With that said, he's a really good player that instantly makes us better, obviously.
NCMSTFAN
11-15-2019, 01:02 PM
Yeah 20-8-8 is pretty much unheard of in college basketball, that's nearly a triple double average which doesn't happen. However, he will be a huge piece to get back, he has averaged about 10 ppg his career here and that was playing along with ball dominant players like Q and Lamar. He can easily raise his average to about 15 ppg with this team.
Homedawg
11-15-2019, 01:12 PM
Yeah 20-8-8 is pretty much unheard of in college basketball, that's nearly a triple double average which doesn't happen. However, he will be a huge piece to get back, he has averaged about 10 ppg his career here and that was playing along with ball dominant players like Q and Lamar. He can easily raise his average to about 15 ppg with this team.
He could get to 15. That's doable. But I still don't expect that big of a jump, but certainly possible. But, he's avg basically 2.5 reb and 2 assists per game for his career, and he's not going to double that, much less triple or more.
NCMSTFAN
11-15-2019, 01:23 PM
He could get to 15. That's doable. But I still don't expect that big of a jump, but certainly possible. But, he's avg basically 2.5 reb and 2 assists per game for his career, and he's not going to double that, much less triple or more.
I would actually expect 13 to 15 ppg from him on this team with the inexperienced guards we have. I'm pretty positive if he wasn't sitting now, he would be around that range with Q and Lamar gone. It may take him a few games to get going once he returns because he hasn't been out there but I'm confident he will be ok. As good as Carter is and has been, he's actually more of a spot up shooter and a guy that is best coming off screens and shooting the 3 ball. He's not a guy that can really blow by you and manufacture points, he has been that so far for us because he's had to. But Nick on the other hand can do that, he will go by you and can finish in a crowd. He's more tough nosed than Carter, and that's taking nothing away from Carter.
chef dixon
11-15-2019, 04:42 PM
spoon isn't going to be a 20-8-8 guy. Matter of fact he won't avg 20 or 8 or 8, much less all of them at the same time not even close. That's either extreme hyperbole, or you really have never watched him play. With that said, he's a really good player that instantly makes us better, obviously.
Clearly a joke
Lord McBuckethead
11-15-2019, 07:02 PM
Clearly a joke
Not clear enough. Look I am not going to say he can only be a 13-15 guy. I am not going to put a limitation on Nick. He has something to prove. Hope he dominates every aspect of the game and works into the 1st round of the draft.
NCMSTFAN
11-15-2019, 07:21 PM
Not clear enough. Look I am not going to say he can only be a 13-15 guy. I am not going to put a limitation on Nick. He has something to prove. Hope he dominates every aspect of the game and works into the 1st round of the draft.
Oh I hope the same, he is projected as a 2nd round guy in 2021 but he can raise his stock with really good play
chef dixon
11-15-2019, 07:36 PM
Not clear enough. Look I am not going to say he can only be a 13-15 guy. I am not going to put a limitation on Nick. He has something to prove. Hope he dominates every aspect of the game and works into the 1st round of the draft.
Then I apologize to above poster. 20-8-8 is insanity.
Homedawg
11-16-2019, 12:13 AM
Then I apologize to above poster. 20-8-8 is insanity.
Beyond.
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