Memphis taps out

[Maroonthirteen]

NCAA = Anderson Silva

https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2019/11/14/attorneys-james-wiseman-withdraws-lawsuit-against-ncaa-uofm-amid-eligibility-ruling/

[Johnson85]

NCAA = Anderson Silva

https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2019/11/14/attorneys-james-wiseman-withdraws-lawsuit-against-ncaa-uofm-amid-eligibility-ruling/

You don't know that yet. I am guessing they have an informal agreement already on how many games Wiseman will sit. If Wiseman ultimately sits out say 10 games or more, then yes, Memphis tapped out (and there may not have been an agreement in place). If Wiseman sits out say 6 games or less, then I would say it was the NCAA that blinked. In the middle is just a settlement where it's not clear which side "won".

[Tripp McNeely]

You don't know that yet. I am guessing they have an informal agreement already on how many games Wiseman will sit. If Wiseman ultimately sits out say 10 games or more, then yes, Memphis tapped out (and there may not have been an agreement in place). If Wiseman sits out say 6 games or less, then I would say it was the NCAA that blinked. In the middle is just a settlement where it's not clear which side "won".

Yeah, this is all it is! Nobody ?caved?. Memphis never had any intention of taking it to court! It was ALWAYS posturing for negotiation purposes! Ballin got Leslie Winkle off. That dude knows EXACTLY what he?s doing!

[MrKotter]

Yeah, this is all it is! Nobody ?caved?. Memphis never had any intention of taking it to court! It was ALWAYS posturing for negotiation purposes! Ballin got Leslie Winkle off. That dude knows EXACTLY what he?s doing!
The ncaa and Memphis were the defendants in the lawsuit. The lawsuit has nothing to do with the settlement and had to be dropped before any negotiations took place. If anything, Ballin got more free publicity for absolutely nothing but yet it looks like he did something

[Tripp McNeely]

The ncaa and Memphis were the defendants in the lawsuit. The lawsuit has nothing to do with the settlement and had to be dropped before any negotiations took place. If anything, Ballin got more free publicity for absolutely nothing but yet it looks like he did something

So, you think the Wiseman family played Ballin? It has EVERYTHING to do with the settlement! It created some leverage, and potential bad pub for the NCAA where there was Not prior to the suit

...and btw, they HAD to name Memphis in the suit. They are an “interested party”. It probably would’ve invalidated the injunction if they didn’t, and on the .0001% chance that it actually went to court, the NCAA could’ve had it (at least temporarily) thrown out because Memphis wasn’t named.

[Cooterpoot]

After they lost, they decided they weren’t as good as they thought (plus it was a loss anyway) and might as well sit him a few games.*

[Maroonthirteen]

Maybe if they stayed course with the lawsuit but.... backing down is submission. Wiseman and Memphis are saying sorry, go easy on us.

[Johnson85]

Maybe if they stayed course with the lawsuit but.... backing down is submission. Wiseman and Memphis are saying sorry, go easy on us.

You are assuming they don't already have a resolution that they view as favorable (or at least as more favorable that the uncertainty they would have had letting the NCAA resolve it on their own terms). Memphis very well might have had a change of heart after being scared by the NCAA. But Wiseman is going pro in a year. All he needs are enough games to solidify his draft status. He might have backed down b/c he does have some loyalty to Penny and/or Memphis and didn't want to put them in a worse position. But it seems a little more likely that he got some assurances that if he dropped the suit, he would get a resolution he believed was acceptable. Not a certainty that he got that assurance, but it seems more likely than not.

[Maroonthirteen]

You’re assuming things as well. Based on facts so far, Memphis and Wiseman bent the knee.

[Johnson85]

You’re assuming things as well. Based on facts so far, Memphis and Wiseman bent the knee.

I am guessing at things based on what seems likely from the the evidence available (or lack thereof). That facts don't indicate that Memphis and Wiseman bent the knee. That facts are completely inconclusive. I am just going by the fact that it would be odd for Wiseman, who currently is getting what he wants, to back down unless he had some indication doing so would be favorable for him. If he expects the TRO to be lifted, then his lawyers probably miscalculated and made a bluff that they couldn't maintain for even a second. Or maybe they made the mistake of not seeking to have Memphis subject to the TRO because they were cooperating, and then Memphis caving put them in a bad spot.
But if Memphis was subject to the TRO, and the lawyers didn't screw up, it would seem likely that there is some sort of unofficial agreement on how to move forward that is reasonably favorable to Wiseman. We'll know more when his punishment/status is actually announced.

[Tripp McNeely]

Maybe if they stayed course with the lawsuit but.... backing down is submission. Wiseman and Memphis are saying sorry, go easy on us.

No man...no! They dropped the suit because the NCAA bargained with them and said they’d offer a reasonable solution 5-10 games, and vacating the 2 games he played in prior to Oregon. This is what happened, trust me!