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TheLostDawg
11-04-2019, 10:25 PM
A break down of their coaching search.

https://www.whatthefussnews.com/posts/arkansas-considers-firing-chad-morris-backtracks-after-discovering-no-one-else-wants-the-job?fbclid=IwAR106GWpuyYuxqYZ-Zm_JCoZPrm9wKW-JCllQxYtmzWdFVJqnuOslhp0-lU

TheLostDawg
11-22-2019, 08:38 AM
Supposedly they interviewed Norvall but seems he is more interested in the FSU hire.

ShotgunDawg
11-22-2019, 08:40 AM
I think most any good coach is going to wait and see what their options are. It's why starting your coaching search early doesn't help.

Regardless of how good of a job Arkansas thinks their job is: it's a major rebuild. I don't think Urban Meyer would win 6 games there next season.

Most coaches don't want that on their resume

TheLostDawg
11-22-2019, 08:19 PM
I think most any good coach is going to wait and see what their options are. It's why starting your coaching search early doesn't help.

Regardless of how good of a job Arkansas thinks their job is: it's a major rebuild. I don't think Urban Meyer would win 6 games there next season.

Most coaches don't want that on their resume

I agree. The w/l ratio is going to really hit their career numbers. It's interesting to see Norvall is considering leaving though after many on here have said otherwise

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-22-2019, 09:22 PM
I agree. The w/l ratio is going to really hit their career numbers. It's interesting to see Norvall is considering leaving though after many on here have said otherwise

Many on here have agendas they want pushed. I'm 99% sure 007 was literally related to JoMo, for example. But there's people who are pro Joe for some reason. See the posters that shoot down every name we throw out, while refusing to name who they want. But people make up shit like 'norvell isn't interested in leaving Memphis' to try to get the board to move off of him for some reason

Quaoarsking
11-22-2019, 09:34 PM
This would be a good hire for Arkansas, and one they could probably get





Year
Team
Overall
Conference
Standing
Bowl/playoffs
Coaches#
AP-


Colorado State Rams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_State_Rams_football) (Mountain West Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_West_Conference)) (2012-2014)


2012 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_season)
Colorado State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Colorado_State_Rams_football_team)
4-8
3-5
T-6th





2013 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_season)
Colorado State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Colorado_State_Rams_football_team)
8-5
5-3
3rd (Mountain)
W New Mexico (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_New_Mexico_Bowl)




2014 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_season)
Colorado State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Colorado_State_Rams_football_team)
10-2
6-2
T-2nd (Mountain)
Las Vegas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Las_Vegas_Bowl)*




Colorado State:
22-15
14-10
* Did not coach bowl game


Florida Gators (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Gators_football) (Southeastern Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeastern_Conference)) (2015-2017)


2015 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_season)
Florida (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Florida_Gators_football_team)
10-4
7-1
1st (Eastern)
L Citrus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Citrus_Bowl_(January))
25
25


2016 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_season)
Florida (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Florida_Gators_football_team)
9-4
6-2
1st (Eastern)
W Outback (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Outback_Bowl)
13
14


2017 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_season)
Florida** (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Florida_Gators_football_team)
3-4
3-3
(Eastern)





Florida:
22-12
16-6



Central Michigan Chippewas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Michigan_Chippewas_football) (Mid-American Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-American_Conference)) (2019-present)


2019 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_season)
Central Michigan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Central_Michigan_Chippewas_football_team)
7-4
5-2
(West)





Central Michigan:
7-4
5-2



Total:
51-32

the_real_MSU_is_us
11-22-2019, 09:38 PM
Under Mac UF players were literally going outside the program to get real S&C training. Seriously, they pooled theri money together to get real trainers. That's how bad things were under Mac. I'd LOVE it if Arky hired him.

I'm not sure some of y'all watched/remember his last team at UF... they had more culture and effort problems than we do under JoMo. It was rotten from the inside out

msstate7
11-22-2019, 09:45 PM
Under Mac UF players were literally going outside the program to get real S&C training. Seriously, they pooled theri money together to get real trainers. That's how bad things were under Mac. I'd LOVE it if Arky hired him.

I'm not sure some of y'all watched/remember his last team at UF... they had more culture and effort problems than we do under JoMo. It was rotten from the inside out

I really think the whole will Grier fiasco was McE's undoing. Had McE handled that better, who knows how it would've turned out at Florida. I do think he's a good coach, but not a great coach. I also think he would do much better at a school like ark than Florida... just doesn't seem the type that can shoulder that pressure cooker

Quaoarsking
11-22-2019, 11:44 PM
Under Mac UF players were literally going outside the program to get real S&C training. Seriously, they pooled theri money together to get real trainers. That's how bad things were under Mac. I'd LOVE it if Arky hired him.

I'm not sure some of y'all watched/remember his last team at UF... they had more culture and effort problems than we do under JoMo. It was rotten from the inside out

If true, he probably won't repeat that mistake.

Even with the bad year at Florida, he's way over .500 in the SEC and at every other job. And he inherited a Florida team that went 4-8 with an FCS loss the previous year and left Dan Mullen the pieces to right right away there.

I'm not saying he's a top 10 nationwide coach or anything, but I think his record indicates he's probably as good as anyone else Arkansas might hire.

TheLostDawg
11-23-2019, 12:14 AM
If true, he probably won't repeat that mistake.

Even with the bad year at Florida, he's way over .500 in the SEC and at every other job. And he inherited a Florida team that went 4-8 with an FCS loss the previous year and left Dan Mullen the pieces to right right away there.

I'm not saying he's a top 10 nationwide coach or anything, but I think his record indicates he's probably as good as anyone else Arkansas might hire.

True but the East was terrible during his time there. Right now it's still only one team to beat there which is Georgia.

WPS
11-24-2019, 08:06 PM
Luke Fickel and Lane Kiffin are the two names I keep hearing right now. I’m sure a lot will change and who knows what’s the right info though.

msstate7
11-24-2019, 08:08 PM
Luke Fickel and Lane Kiffin are the two names I keep hearing right now. I’m sure a lot will change and who knows what’s the right info though.

I love kiffin. It would be cool to have him back in the sec

FISHDAWG
11-25-2019, 01:04 PM
I love kiffin. It would be cool to have him back in the sec

I believe I would rather have Chizic **... at least he has an in with the NCAA as opposed to being on their bitch list like Kiffin

Jack Lambert
11-25-2019, 03:57 PM
Sunday we will start to see the coaching move start. It will be like dominoes falling.

TheLostDawg
11-26-2019, 08:34 AM
https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/Article/Lane-Kiffin-Arkansas-Razorbacks-coaching-search-football-139201794/

msstate7
11-26-2019, 08:38 AM
https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/Article/Lane-Kiffin-Arkansas-Razorbacks-coaching-search-football-139201794/

They should do it, and go get Kendal briles as OC... team up again like at FAU

MrKotter
11-26-2019, 08:56 AM
I love kiffin. It would be cool to have him back in the sec
You can?t be serious? The dude is an immature clown and not a good coach.

msstate7
11-26-2019, 08:58 AM
You can?t be serious? The dude is an immature clown and not a good coach.
Kiffin is hilarious... his Twitter is awesome. Sorry you're an old grumpy man

KOdawg1
11-26-2019, 09:02 AM
You can?t be serious? The dude is an immature clown and not a good coach.

I'll give you immature, but you're wrong when you say he's not a good coach. The dude can coach.

MrKotter
11-26-2019, 09:29 AM
Kiffin is hilarious... his Twitter is awesome. Sorry you're an old grumpy man
Wow, great comeback. You are right, he can be humorous on twitter but that, according to you, makes him a SEC candidate? You are an even bigger 17ing moron than I thought. He is an immature, childish fool who is lucky to be where he is.

Tbonewannabe
11-26-2019, 09:39 AM
Wow, great comeback. You are right, he can be humorous on twitter but that, according to you, makes him a SEC candidate? You are an even bigger 17ing moron than I thought. He is an immature, childish fool who is lucky to be where he is.

I think he is kind of immature but you don't get hired and last under Saban if you aren't a good coach.

NWADAWG
11-26-2019, 09:40 AM
Wow, great comeback. You are right, he can be humorous on twitter but that, according to you, makes him a SEC candidate?

It makes him a perfect candidate for another SEC school, especially a SEC West school.

I don't remember any suggestion that he should be our new coach.

msstate7
11-26-2019, 09:43 AM
Wow, great comeback. You are right, he can be humorous on twitter but that, according to you, makes him a SEC candidate? You are an even bigger 17ing moron than I thought. He is an immature, childish fool who is lucky to be where he is.

I said I want him in the sec. He's entertaining, and I keep up with sec football to be entertained. I do think you're selling him short as a coach. Hud is the savior here, and I don't see how you can really say hud is any better than kiffin

Churchill
11-26-2019, 09:55 AM
I totally realize how far that program is down...we saw that with our own eyes. But I don't understand their difficulty in hiring a coach. They are the only football school in the state, they are well funded and have pretty good tradition. It just looks like a good gig for a GOOD coach to me. Is there too much outside interference into the athletic department or what ? There is some problem there I obviously don't understand.

Jack Lambert
11-26-2019, 10:03 AM
I'll give you immature, but you're wrong when you say he's not a good coach. The dude can coach.

Hopefully he has learned from mistakes on a personal point.

FriarsPoint
11-26-2019, 10:04 AM
I totally realize how far that program is down...we saw that with our own eyes. But I don't understand their difficulty in hiring a coach. They are the only football school in the state, they are well funded and have pretty good tradition. It just looks like a good gig for a GOOD coach to me. Is there too much outside interference into the athletic department or what ? There is some problem there I obviously don't understand.

In state talent compared to MS is virtually nonexistent. A&M/Missouri in the SEC, TCU in the big xii, Oklahoma next door, their recruiting lifeline has been cut off.

Jack Lambert
11-26-2019, 10:08 AM
I totally realize how far that program is down...we saw that with our own eyes. But I don't understand their difficulty in hiring a coach. They are the only football school in the state, they are well funded and have pretty good tradition. It just looks like a good gig for a GOOD coach to me. Is there too much outside interference into the athletic department or what ? There is some problem there I obviously don't understand.

In my opinion, their state only has a population of 1.9 million or so. They do not have same amount of talent we have. Then add in they are in the Big 12 recruiting foot print. That hurts having OK, OK ST and the Texas Big 12 schools coming into your state. To be honest, they would never leave the SEC but they really should be in the Big 12.

smootness
11-26-2019, 10:14 AM
Kiffin is probably the coach who has the most years of experience under his belt that we actually still know nothing about, ever.

He was a coach for 2 years in the NFL - bad.
He was a coach for 1 year at Tennessee - meh.
He was a coach for 3.5 years at USC - up and down.
He has been a coach at FAU for 3 years - up and down.

msstate7
11-26-2019, 10:21 AM
Kiffin is probably the coach who has the most years of experience under his belt that we actually still know nothing about, ever.

He was a coach for 2 years in the NFL - bad.
He was a coach for 1 year at Tennessee - meh.
He was a coach for 3.5 years at USC - up and down.
He has been a coach at FAU for 3 years - up and down.

No idea what happened last year at FAU, but he's about to win his conference again this year, 2 times out of 3 years.

Jack Lambert
11-26-2019, 10:27 AM
No idea what happened last year at FAU, but he's about to win his conference again this year, 2 times out of 3 years.

They play USM this weekend at FAU.

msstate7
11-26-2019, 10:29 AM
They play USM this weekend at FAU.

And FAU could certainly lose, but they're a 9.5 pt favorite, so I'm saying they win. They're in title game regardless

Jack Lambert
11-26-2019, 11:28 AM
And FAU could certainly lose, but they're a 9.5 pt favorite, so I'm saying they win. They're in title game regardless

I think FAU wins.

WPS
11-26-2019, 01:13 PM
In state talent compared to MS is virtually nonexistent. A&M/Missouri in the SEC, TCU in the big xii, Oklahoma next door, their recruiting lifeline has been cut off.

And yet we recruit in the 20?s on average like most of the lower half of the SEC, 10-15 spots above Missouri most years. Talent isn?t the reason we?re on this long SEC losing streak, we just signed the most Rivals 4-stars last year that we?ve ever signed.

smootness
11-26-2019, 02:07 PM
No idea what happened last year at FAU, but he's about to win his conference again this year, 2 times out of 3 years.

So so far, the only thing we can really say about him is that he's Florida Atlantic's best coach ever.

TheLostDawg
11-26-2019, 04:47 PM
And yet we recruit in the 20?s on average like most of the lower half of the SEC, 10-15 spots above Missouri most years. Talent isn?t the reason we?re on this long SEC losing streak, we just signed the most Rivals 4-stars last year that we?ve ever signed.

I agree. Yall say that they have problems recruiting but if you look at where they land year after year it's right there with us minus in '18. I don't think recruiting is why.

OLJWales
11-26-2019, 08:21 PM
I think based on the way things are now, MSU is a more attractive job than AR & TN . Those TX high schoolers that used to go to UPIG, now have better local options than going to UPIG. UPIG spent a couple of decades getting good TX croots that were not being offered top dollar by the Longhorns.

TN cheated as much as AU back in the day. Their previous stomping grounds now have croots that have other outlets as well. TN used to survive on national recruiting, they can't get that done anymore.

Fayetteville and Knoxville are as diverse as Cheyenne, WY. College Football is a diverse entity. MSU is the most diverse school in the SEC with a recruiting base within driving distance not needing many private jets to get the job done.

No prejudice , just fact. I don't see how an outsider with no school loyalties to either 3 could choose those 2 over MSU. In today's game, we've got the edge on both of them IMO.

FriarsPoint
11-26-2019, 08:24 PM
And yet we recruit in the 20?s on average like most of the lower half of the SEC, 10-15 spots above Missouri most years. Talent isn?t the reason we?re on this long SEC losing streak, we just signed the most Rivals 4-stars last year that we?ve ever signed.

So has Texas. They’ve lost 4 games with a supposed loaded roster and a coach in year 3 that’s the second coming. Hmmmmmm. Maybe Texas athletes ain’t what y’all think they are. My point still stands.

OLJWales
11-26-2019, 08:36 PM
So has Texas. They’ve lost 4 games with a supposed loaded roster and a coach in year 3 that’s the second coming. Hmmmmmm. Maybe Texas athletes ain’t what y’all think they are. My point still stands.

MS has athletes just as good as any from CA, TX & FL. We just don't have as many. The Longhorns just don't have things as locked down as they used to. Just like The Vols. Did you ever think you'd see the day TCU & Baylor competing with TX? Vandy whipping the Vols?

Schools these days seem to be able to hang on to local talent more than they did before. The blue bloods can't come into someone else's back yard as easily as in the past. Lot's of things to complain about in the game today but there are other things that are trending in a positive way IMO.

TheLostDawg
11-27-2019, 12:15 AM
https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Article/Arkansas-Razorbacks-football-coaching-search-Justin-Fuente-Mike-Norvell-Matt-Campbell-139263634/

msstate7
11-27-2019, 07:42 AM
https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Article/Arkansas-Razorbacks-football-coaching-search-Justin-Fuente-Mike-Norvell-Matt-Campbell-139263634/

We need to be on the phone with him today

NWADAWG
11-27-2019, 09:59 AM
A break down of their coaching search.

https://www.whatthefussnews.com/posts/arkansas-considers-firing-chad-morris-backtracks-after-discovering-no-one-else-wants-the-job?fbclid=IwAR106GWpuyYuxqYZ-Zm_JCoZPrm9wKW-JCllQxYtmzWdFVJqnuOslhp0-lU

One of the "in the know" guys on the UPig message board says Kiffin to UPig is a done deal. Kiffin pursued the job hard and will be announced next week if he loses the conf. championship game. His proposed staff is Chizik as DC and Pittman (former UPig assistant) as OC.

msstate7
11-27-2019, 10:23 AM
One of the "in the know" guys on the UPig message board says Kiffin to UPig is a done deal. Kiffin pursued the job hard and will be announced next week if he loses the conf. championship game. His proposed staff is Chizik as DC and Pittman (former UPig assistant) as OC.

If kiffin is the guy, I imagine he will be making a run at Kendal briles for OC with FSU making a change

NWADAWG
11-27-2019, 10:34 AM
If kiffin is the guy, I imagine he will be making a run at Kendal briles for OC with FSU making a change

There is a lot of pull from former players for Pittman to be head coach. I think Pittman as OC would be decent move for them for football and huge move for them politically.

Multiple former players have sent statements to the media with their support of Pittman.

WPS
11-27-2019, 12:30 PM
There is a lot of pull from former players for Pittman to be head coach. I think Pittman as OC would be decent move for them for football and huge move for them politically.

Multiple former players have sent statements to the media with their support of Pittman.

I?m just not sure how a career OL coach would work as OC, Kiffin would obviously have to call plays. The offenses Pittman has been in have been different from what Kiffin runs. He may already have this at Georgia but I would rather give him associate head coach/OL Coach/recruiting coordinator or something to where we could pay him a crap ton more than the going rate for an OL coach (UGA may be already doing this too I?m not sure). But he?s an elite recruiter.

Rumor is Kiffin wants to keep our WR and RB coaches so maybe that would help salvage the recruiting class. Would be nice to have Lance Thompson on staff for defensive recruiting.