2020 11 AM SEC Kickoff

[dantheman4248]

The SECN has to fill a slot every week at 11 am for a kickoff. That?s not going to change. It would make so much more sense for the conference in the idea of fairness to give everyone only 1 home game in this slot.

The maximum we could see is 26 games in this slot with one on ESPN/2/U at the same time. So with that in mind here?s what that list should look like. Go ahead and schedule them early. (I wish we would schedule everything in advance and give CBS the flex option like SNF but that makes too much sense.

Sept 5: Charlotte @ Tennessee on SECN ; Central Arkansas @ Mizzou on ESPN2U
Sept 12: ECU @ SCAR on SECN ; SEMO @ Ole Miss on ESPN2U
Sept 19: Kent State @ UK on SECN ; Colorado @ A&M on ESPN2U
Sept 26: Eastern Mich @ Mizzou on SECN ; Colorado State @ Vandy on ESPN2U
Oct 3: Nicholls @ LSU on SECN ; Charleston Southern @ Arkansas on ESPN2U
Oct 10: Fresno State @ A&M on SECN ; Eastern Illinois @ UK on ESPN2U
Oct 17: LSU @ Arkansas on SECN ; MSU @ Alabama on ESPN2U
Oct 24: UConn @ Ole Miss on SECN; 4 other SEC games. CBS, midday SECN, and night ESPN + night SECN.
Oct 31: Auburn @ MSU on SECN ; Only 4 Games. CBS Slot and 3 SECN slots cover this week.
Nov 7: Florida @ Vandy on SECN ; Georgia @ SCAR on ESPN2U
Nov 14: UTM @ Alabama on SECN ; UMass @ Auburn on ESPN2U
Nov 21: NMSU @ Florida on SECN ; Troy @ Tennessee on ESPN2U
Nov 28: Georgia Tech @ Georgia on SECN ; Florida @ FSU on ESPN2U

LSU and Florida are the only teams that play in two 11 am SECN games. One at home, one on the road. Auburn is the only team that does not host an 11 am SECN game. Georgia, Florida, Auburn, and MSU all only host one 11 am game. Florida plays in 3 11 am games, two on the road. For the most part the month of September is filled with northern SEC home games against non-con. Had to finesse the schedule just right to make it all work. MSU is the only team with both of their 11 am games being SEC games as that?s just how the schedule shook out.

I would hope the SEC would do something like this and schedule in advance to allow for proper response. This helps everyone with heat issues and keeps it fair across the board.

[Todd4State]

It’s not right that a team has to play so many games at 11. Whether it’s MSU or Alabama.

[R2Dawg]

MSU outside of Thanksgiving night only getting one night game in DWS and that being ACU is something that doesn't ever need to happen again. That is not right. Can you imagine Aub or Bama or LSU getting our night schedule?

[Cooterpoot]

The SEC has no say in it. They can?t schedule game times.

[Homedawg]

The SECN has to fill a slot every week at 11 am for a kickoff. That?s not going to change. It would make so much more sense for the conference in the idea of fairness to give everyone only 1 home game in this slot.

The maximum we could see is 26 games in this slot with one on ESPN/2/U at the same time. So with that in mind here?s what that list should look like. Go ahead and schedule them early. (I wish we would schedule everything in advance and give CBS the flex option like SNF but that makes too much sense.

Sept 5: Charlotte @ Tennessee on SECN ; Central Arkansas @ Mizzou on ESPN2U
Sept 12: ECU @ SCAR on SECN ; SEMO @ Ole Miss on ESPN2U
Sept 19: Kent State @ UK on SECN ; Colorado @ A&M on ESPN2U
Sept 26: Eastern Mich @ Mizzou on SECN ; Colorado State @ Vandy on ESPN2U
Oct 3: Nicholls @ LSU on SECN ; Charleston Southern @ Arkansas on ESPN2U
Oct 10: Fresno State @ A&M on SECN ; Eastern Illinois @ UK on ESPN2U
Oct 17: LSU @ Arkansas on SECN ; MSU @ Alabama on ESPN2U
Oct 24: UConn @ Ole Miss on SECN; 4 other SEC games. CBS, midday SECN, and night ESPN + night SECN.
Oct 31: Auburn @ MSU on SECN ; Only 4 Games. CBS Slot and 3 SECN slots cover this week.
Nov 7: Florida @ Vandy on SECN ; Georgia @ SCAR on ESPN2U
Nov 14: UTM @ Alabama on SECN ; UMass @ Auburn on ESPN2U
Nov 21: NMSU @ Florida on SECN ; Troy @ Tennessee on ESPN2U
Nov 28: Georgia Tech @ Georgia on SECN ; Florida @ FSU on ESPN2U

LSU and Florida are the only teams that play in two 11 am SECN games. One at home, one on the road. Auburn is the only team that does not host an 11 am SECN game. Georgia, Florida, Auburn, and MSU all only host one 11 am game. Florida plays in 3 11 am games, two on the road. For the most part the month of September is filled with northern SEC home games against non-con. Had to finesse the schedule just right to make it all work. MSU is the only team with both of their 11 am games being SEC games as that?s just how the schedule shook out.

I would hope the SEC would do something like this and schedule in advance to allow for proper response. This helps everyone with heat issues and keeps it fair across the board.

While I understand the frustration, we get our welfare check from the league via ESPN. They have to put the games in th e slots that benefits them the most to pay their bills/ make them money. Might not be "fair" but we don't have an issue getting and taking the money. And I assure you we aren't the reason espn cuts the check. Sad but true.

[dantheman4248]

While I understand the frustration, we get our welfare check from the league via ESPN. They have to put the games in th e slots that benefits them the most to pay their bills/ make them money. Might not be "fair" but we don't have an issue getting and taking the money. And I assure you we aren't the reason espn cuts the check. Sad but true.

Kentucky getting every home game at night on secn doesn’t scream what makes money to me but whatever.

[Homedawg]

Kentucky getting every home game at night on secn doesn’t scream what makes money to me but whatever.

I haven't gone and looked at it. Doesn't matter that much to me to do so. But last year we had all night games. It works that way sometimes depending on matchups and weekends.
Again, we wouldn't be where we are wo the check. So it's part of it.

[ShotgunDawg]

It’s not right that a team has to play so many games at 11. Whether it’s MSU or Alabama.

Completely agree. It's an unfair system

[ShotgunDawg]

It?s not right that a team has to play so many games at 11. Whether it?s MSU or Alabama.

Completely agree. It's an unfair system

[ShotgunDawg]

The SEC has no say in it. They can?t schedule game times.

This is correct. Since CBS has the first choice, the SEC scheduling 11:00 AM games prior to the season would violate the contract.

HOWEVER, if the SEC offered CBS a flex option should a scheduled 11:00 AM be prime time worthy, I don't see what the issue would be.

Lastly, scheduling 11 AM games prior to the season would really help attendance as well as people could plan their hotel situation.

It's incredible to me that this hasn't been fixed yet

It's a real issue but one that is easy to solve

[ShotgunDawg]

I haven't gone and looked at it. Doesn't matter that much to me to do so. But last year we had all night games. It works that way sometimes depending on matchups and weekends.
Again, we wouldn't be where we are wo the check. So it's part of it.

It doesn't have to be a part of it though & scheduling 11 AM games prior to the season would be good for the attendance at those game league wide. Instead of outrage a week or 2 weeks before the game, fans would understand that they all owe the SEC 1 11 AM home game & they would know in August.

This simple adjustment would mean that fans wouldn't have to book 2 nights at a hotel early in the year because they didn't know whether the game would be an early or late game. By having the 11 AM schedule in August, fans would know exactly which nights to book at hotel, events could be scheduled to prior to avoid conflict, and the 11 AM games would inevitably see a 5-10 K increase in attendance.

[dantheman4248]

This is correct. Since CBS has the first choice, the SEC scheduling 11:00 AM games prior to the season would violate the contract.

HOWEVER, if the SEC offered CBS a flex option should a scheduled 11:00 AM be prime time worthy, I don't see what the issue would be.

Lastly, scheduling 11 AM games prior to the season would really help attendance as well as people could plan their hotel situation.

It's incredible to me that this hasn't been fixed yet

It's a real issue but one that is easy to solve

Which is why I say offer the flex option. But the CBS game is almost always SEC vs. SEC.

There’s 5 SEC vs. SEC games listed.

Oct 17: The toughest part of the schedule for me. 6 SEC games to choose from. Maybe flex either of those into the CBS slot and bump the other game into another 3 pm ESPN2U slot if you have to.
Oct 31: UF vs. UGA is always CBS game.
Nov 7: Bama @ LSU unless something catastrophic. Seems like this is always a CBS game as well.

[Political Hack]

MSU outside of Thanksgiving night only getting one night game in DWS and that being ACU is something that doesn't ever need to happen again. That is not right. Can you imagine Aub or Bama or LSU getting our night schedule?

We all got used to those prime time games when Mullen was here.

[TUSK]

Completely agree. It's an unfair system

It’s not fair. But, it is what’s best for the league, economically.

The better teams usually get the better time slots, which generates more wealth for the SEC to spread around...

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

When Alabama complained about it, it highlighted the fact that MSU and Bama were near the bottom in number of 11am kickoffs.

[parabrave]

Kentucky getting every home game at night on secn doesn’t scream what makes money to me but whatever.

The mothership doesn't want anything to take away viewers during primetime

[dantheman4248]

The mothership doesn't want anything to take away viewers during primetime

So why not put MSU football there at all?

[MedDawg]

In 2018 MSU's home games were at 6:30pm, 6:30pm, 5pm, 6:30pm, 6pm, 6:30pm, 11am. The only 11am home game was on November 17th. All of the away games were 6/6:30 except for at Kansas State at 11am and at Bama at 2:30pm on November 10th.

We might have been 'penalized' this season for having 9 out of 12 games at night last year and 2 of the 3 day games were in mid-November.

[maroonmania]

It’s not fair. But, it is what’s best for the league, economically.

The better teams usually get the better time slots, which generates more wealth for the SEC to spread around...

It may be what's best for the league financially but a lot of it is killing attendance figures for the SEC schools that aren't in the NC race every year. Giving an enjoyable experience to the game going fan has become the lowest priority on the list even though he is paying thousands of dollars a season to attend games. The accommodations are all to the slob on his couch watching the game on HD for no more than paying his cable bill.

[TUSK]

It may be what's best for the league financially but a lot of it is killing attendance figures for the SEC schools that aren't in the NC race every year. Giving an enjoyable experience to the game going fan has become the lowest priority on the list even though he is paying thousands of dollars a season to attend games. The accommodations are all to the slob on his couch watching the game on HD for no more than paying his cable bill.

Yup. All of that is true. It forces some schools to sell out their fans for program financing subsidies.

[RougeDawg]

In 2018 MSU's home games were at 6:30pm, 6:30pm, 5pm, 6:30pm, 6pm, 6:30pm, 11am. The only 11am home game was on November 17th. All of the away games were 6/6:30 except for at Kansas State at 11am and at Bama at 2:30pm on November 10th.

We might have been 'penalized' this season for having 9 out of 12 games at night last year and 2 of the 3 day games were in mid-November.

We have been penalized in 2019 by a clown head coach. That is all

[msstatelp1]

Better teams and better matchups get better times typically. Fix our current problems and play better opponents and we will see less 11am games.

[BB30]

Simple, win games and you play in the good slots, lose games and you don't. That is about as fair as it can get without turning into a socialist program ha. We like that SEC TV money and we need it. Just win and that will take care of the issues.

I do feel like ESPN has been pretty good to us over the last decade. There have been some years where we have had a bunch of 11AM games but for the most part if we are good we don't get the shaft and I can live with that.

[gravedigger]

We have been penalized in 2019 by a clown head coach. That is all

and an equally clown fanbase. So it all balances

[dantheman4248]

and an equally clown fanbase. So it all balances

Coach comes in and talks about Championships and tells our Senior QB to get his mantle ready for a Heisman then proceeds to put up 7, 6, 3, 0 points in 4 of our 8 sec games and now he wants to sell us that this was a rebuild? And the fans are the clowns for calling that bullshit?

[bulldogcountry1]

It's worth noting that UF, UGA, USC, UK, and UT are in the eastern time zone and have to host ZERO 11am games.

[ShotgunDawg]

It's worth noting that UF, UGA, USC, UK, and UT are in the eastern time zone and have to host ZERO 11am games.

Which is absurdly ridiculous and speaks to a broken system. They are 12:00 games for which make them far easier.

[Maroonthirteen]

Which is absurdly ridiculous and speaks to a broken system. They are 12:00 games for which make them far easier.

It really is broken. In the next contract negotiations, ESPN needs to tell CBS to step off. So ESPN can have first choice of games and broadcast as many games as they want at 2:30p.

That’s the issue. Espn has to broadcast at 11am or 6pm and later because of CBS. ESPN has at least 3 channels to broadcast sec games at 230. Make it happen, and you reduce the 11am games.