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Cloak
10-26-2019, 01:54 PM
Has Joe passed Croom to be the worst coach in State history?
shoeless joe
10-26-2019, 01:56 PM
Almost started this thread earlier in the week.

Croom would have won more than 8 games with last yrs team.
PGHBulldogBG
10-26-2019, 01:58 PM
It’s not even close. Croom was bad but his players gave him much better effort
Really Clark?
10-26-2019, 01:59 PM
Joe losing 4 straight will be first time since Croom 2004 & 2005 seasons losing that many games in a row
Cloak
10-26-2019, 01:59 PM
Maybe Joevester was more of an insult to Croom..
DownwardDawg
10-26-2019, 02:02 PM
Has Joe passed Croom to be the worst coach in State history?

Yes. He has passed him. I never thought that to be possible but Joe said “hold my beer”. Croom was better.
Fader21
10-26-2019, 02:07 PM
Crook could actually get his team to play hard in big games. And we always had hope for an upset like Florida or Bama.
RougeDawg
10-26-2019, 02:08 PM
Why is this even a question? SloMo the clown was handed a 10 win guaranteed team and only won 8. Crooms was never handed a double digit team with the best defense in the land. SloMo is not even Slytanic level. Let that sink in.

I said it last year after watching UL, FL and Auburn games. SloMo saw what worked and never went back to it. We should do the same.
ShotgunDawg
10-26-2019, 02:11 PM
Joe is the worst MSU coach I've seen since Sherrill.

Comparing Croom & him is tough due to the circumstances of the program when they took over. However, I'll always blame the guy that ran the train off the tracks before blaming the guy that had to build a train.

This program shows no pulse
TrapGame
10-26-2019, 02:14 PM
Crook could actually get his team to play hard in big games. And we always had hope for an upset like Florida or Bama.

Had Croom just ran a basic offense he would have won 6 or 7 games a year. We never would have gotten Mullen though.
parabrave
10-26-2019, 02:16 PM
How about Shira.
ShotgunDawg
10-26-2019, 02:17 PM
To a large degree, I blame Croom from being from a different era. He simply didn't know what a spread offense even was.

Moorhead doesn't have those excuses
shoeless joe
10-26-2019, 02:17 PM
This is the statement I made a couple weeks ago and upset a few...but it seems to have aged well:

The list of coaches that would have won 8 or less games with last years team is short...Croom isn’t on that list
shoeless joe
10-26-2019, 02:18 PM
To a large degree, I blame Croom from being from a different era. He simply didn't know what a spread offense even was.

Moorhead doesn't have those excuses

But he knew toughness and character were important and needed to be coached
DownwardDawg
10-26-2019, 02:20 PM
Joe is the worst MSU coach I've seen since Sherrill.

Comparing Croom & him is tough due to the circumstances of the program when they took over. However, I'll always blame the guy that ran the train off the tracks before blaming the guy that had to build a train.

This program shows no pulse

What do you mean since Sherrill? JWS is one of the best we’ve ever had. Changed our program and expectations.
ShotgunDawg
10-26-2019, 02:20 PM
But he knew toughness and character were important and needed to be coached

Agree. In some way he set Mullen up fairly well

Our next coach will have some "cleaning up" to do that Mullen didn't have to
ShotgunDawg
10-26-2019, 02:21 PM
What do you mean since Sherrill? JWS is one of the best we’ve ever had. Changed our program and expectations.

Since he Sherrill era started. Sorry I miss wrote that.

I should've said, he's the worst coach I've seen since 1990
Todd4State
10-26-2019, 02:37 PM
Well I don’t know what this says...

But Croom pissed me off less than Joe does.
RougeDawg
10-26-2019, 02:40 PM
Well I don?t know what this says...

But Croom pissed me off less than Joe does.

Because Croom wasn?t handed an 8 win minimum team for 4 years. Any assclown could have won 8 games in 2018 and 2019 with this roster. Any football coach would have won 10 games in 2018, and had to try hard not to win more.
redstickdawg
10-26-2019, 02:50 PM
Because Croom wasn?t handed an 8 win minimum team for 4 years. Any assclown could have won 8 games in 2018 and 2019 with this roster. Any football coach would have won 10 games in 2018, and had to try hard not to win more.


Croom had the respect of his players and many of the fans respected him as a leader and person. Jomo has lost the team and no one else respects him either. It is a dishonor to Croom to call JoMo Jovester as Croom at least was a leader. JoMo is the worst coach that I have seen at MSU since before Tyler.
Cloak
10-26-2019, 03:00 PM
The list of coaches that would have won 8 or less games with last years team is short...Croom isn’t on that list

Agree