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Indndawg
10-21-2019, 12:25 PM
When the talent was not there? I try to forget those years
BrunswickDawg
10-21-2019, 12:27 PM
When the talent was not there? I try to forget those years

Yes. The Croom Coast Offense.
Tbonewannabe
10-21-2019, 12:31 PM
Yes, he was even bringing in Borges supposedly to replace Woody if we would have given him another year. I believe his last ditch effort, he even agreed to go with a spread offense but it was too late by then.
shoeless joe
10-21-2019, 12:45 PM
Yes, he was even bringing in Borges supposedly to replace Woody if we would have given him another year. I believe his last ditch effort, he even agreed to go with a spread offense but it was too late by then.

This is correct. Which goes against what many choose to believe
BrunswickDawg
10-21-2019, 12:53 PM
Yes, he was even bringing in Borges supposedly to replace Woody if we would have given him another year. I believe his last ditch effort, he even agreed to go with a spread offense but it was too late by then.


This is correct. Which goes against what many choose to believe

Why would we have brought in a noted WCO OC like Borges to run a Spread? Borges was still running WCO as late as 2018.
Tbonewannabe
10-21-2019, 01:52 PM
Why would we have brought in a noted WCO OC like Borges to run a Spread? Borges was still running WCO as late as 2018.

He was bringing in Borges supposedly before the Egg Bowl debacle to replace Woody and still run the WCO. He was pressured to change something on Offense. I believe Byrne wanted a spread offense and Croom offered to go to the spread if he was allowed another year and Byrne declined. I don't know this for a fact but it was what was the rumors around that time.
DownwardDawg
10-21-2019, 01:56 PM
He did NOT agree to run a spread offense. That’s why he was asked to resign. He was bringing in a WCO guru. Byrne said alrighty then, goodbye.
HoopsDawg
10-21-2019, 01:58 PM
As long as I'm the coach, we will run this offense...(except for 1 game vs UF.)
DogsofAnarchy
10-21-2019, 01:58 PM
Well we are right back to that now. Croom Part II.
msu15
10-21-2019, 02:07 PM
As long as I'm the coach, we will run this offense...(except for 1 game vs UF.)

2007 Kentucky where Rocky Felker called the plays was decent too.
Tbonewannabe
10-21-2019, 02:13 PM
He did NOT agree to run a spread offense. That’s why he was asked to resign. He was bringing in a WCO guru. Byrne said alrighty then, goodbye.

I think he only agreed to go with the spread after the Egg Bowl but it was too late by then. It was obvious that he had lost the team. That was the rumor anyway.
Coach34
10-21-2019, 02:22 PM
Byrne told Croom State was running the Spread Offense in 2009 and he was making the hire. Croom said not with him as HC so let’s get to work on a buyout.
shoeless joe
10-21-2019, 05:03 PM
Why would we have brought in a noted WCO OC like Borges to run a Spread? Borges was still running WCO as late as 2018.

The part I was agreeing with was that borges was going to be the OC in 09 had Croom stayed
DownwardDawg
10-21-2019, 05:52 PM
Byrne told Croom State was running the Spread Offense in 2009 and he was making the hire. Croom said not with him as HC so let’s get to work on a buyout.

This is what happened.
Coach34
10-21-2019, 06:16 PM
Yes. The Croom Coast Offense.

One of my better nicknames for sure
BulldogBear
10-21-2019, 06:40 PM
Yes. The Croom Coast Offense.

We called it the Worst Coast Offense
lastmajordog
10-21-2019, 08:06 PM
(West Coast Offense).....Joe Montana laughs at that terminology
Todd4State
10-21-2019, 08:09 PM
Byrne told Croom State was running the Spread Offense in 2009 and he was making the hire. Croom said not with him as HC so let’s get to work on a buyout.

I'm assuming it was probably Hud that would have been our OC.
Todd4State
10-21-2019, 08:12 PM
(West Coast Offense).....Joe Montana laughs at that terminology

It runs a little bit better with Montana, Rice, and Craig vs. Henig, Will Prosser, and well Norwood was good. And Bill Walsh and Croom are not even on the same planet as far as head coaches go.
msu15
10-21-2019, 09:36 PM
We called it the Worst Coast Offense

Prevent Offense here
DownwardDawg
10-21-2019, 10:07 PM
I’ll never forget the Play action sack. It worked on 3rd down every time. It was our offense bread and butter.
msu15
10-22-2019, 02:28 AM
I’ll never forget the Play action sack. It worked on 3rd down every time. It was our offense bread and butter.

The 5 yard out route out of bounds on 3rd and 6 was also a staple.
Coach34
10-22-2019, 06:35 AM
I'm assuming it was probably Hud that would have been our OC.

Most likely. Had Mullen not taken our job- Hud was Byrne's next choice. Byrne made it known to Mullen that he wanted Hud on staff and Dan always gave Hud alot of shit because of it even though he knew he was a good coach.