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99jc
10-18-2019, 04:52 PM
Cohen trying to squirm around it! Ole Sloppy joe is gone.

Coursesuper
10-18-2019, 04:56 PM
Squirming his ass off. That was uncomfortable to watch.

bluelightstar
10-18-2019, 04:56 PM
Just have to laugh at Cohen’s statement that he’s never seen a coach with energy at practice like Moorhead.

You can say a lot of things about Dan Mullen but “holds low-energy practices” is not one.

boot
10-18-2019, 04:57 PM
That was cringeworthy, never seen Cohen look that awkward.

Moorhead gone

99jc
10-18-2019, 05:00 PM
Cohen was glad to get the hell off of that stage!

was21
10-18-2019, 05:00 PM
Finebaum ate his lunch...have to give him credit and Cohen faded

Dawg_Lover
10-18-2019, 05:03 PM
Deflection, deflection, deflection.

99jc
10-18-2019, 05:04 PM
Paul just stated Rutgers to pay 4-5 million a year for a coach holy crap!

Maroonthirteen
10-18-2019, 05:12 PM
Did Cohen go IB on the little bastard LSU fans with the derogatory signs behind stage?

99jc
10-18-2019, 05:15 PM
didn't notice sign what did it say?

Dawg_Lover
10-18-2019, 05:15 PM
Finebaum = Hammer, meet nail

Maroonthirteen
10-18-2019, 05:20 PM
didn't notice sign what did it say?

Things you’ve heard from OM types before.

I didn’t see it on tv. Buddy texted me a pic. Maybe they ran them off before air time. But they were probably 12 years old.

MaroonFlounder
10-18-2019, 05:20 PM
Cohen trying to squirm around it! Ole Sloppy joe is gone.

According to Cohen our football team looks like the '85 Bears in practice.

If he's lying or embellishing, he needs to be gone.

BhamDawg205
10-18-2019, 05:23 PM
According to Cohen our football team looks like the '85 Bears in practice.

If he's lying or embellishing, he needs to be gone.

Well sounds like JoMo's offense looks like garbage against any SEC defense... Including ours

Todd4State
10-18-2019, 05:24 PM
Good for Finebaum. Cohen needs to be embarrassed right now after the BS hire he made.

MetEdDawg
10-18-2019, 05:32 PM
Our fan base needs to evaluate where it's at right now.

Many of you are happy our AD got embarrassed on a nationally syndicated radio station.

We have turned into a bunch of self sabotaging buffoons

99jc
10-18-2019, 05:34 PM
Good for Finebaum. Cohen needs to be embarrassed right now after the BS hire he made.

I think Cohen gets the message....he had better listen!

was21
10-18-2019, 05:36 PM
I'm not happy he got embarrased but he got embarrassed on his own because he didn't seem to be straightforward with his answers

DeltaChicagoDog
10-18-2019, 05:39 PM
That peckerhead just ran roughshod over the leadership of our University. And JM and JC both kinda just rolled over - not sure why that gets a gleeful response from some posters. It’s embarrassing and makes JC and JM and by extension the University and it’s fanbase look like doormats. Who can imagine any big time coach or AD getting poked with a stick like that over and over and them just take it without fighting back? No wonder the team has looked the way they do.

Todd4State
10-18-2019, 05:40 PM
Our fan base needs to evaluate where it's at right now.

Many of you are happy our AD got embarrassed on a nationally syndicated radio station.

We have turned into a bunch of self sabotaging buffoons

I want him to be embarrassed right now so that he can do what is best for our program in the long run- and that’s get rid of Joe.

It pisses me off when I see what he hired based on who was allegedly interested- like Scott Satterfield.

HoopsDawg
10-18-2019, 05:42 PM
I want him to be embarrassed right now so that he can do what is best for our program in the long run- and that’s get rid of Joe.

It pisses me off when I see what he hired based on who was allegedly interested- like Scott Satterfield.

if we passed on Satterfield, wow.

dawgday166
10-18-2019, 05:43 PM
I want him to be embarrassed right now so that he can do what is best for our program in the long run- and that’s get rid of Joe.

It pisses me off when I see what he hired based on who was allegedly interested- like Scott Satterfield.

That woulda been a real good hire IMO for last year's team.

MetEdDawg
10-18-2019, 05:44 PM
I want him to be embarrassed right now so that he can do what is best for our program in the long run- and that’s get rid of Joe.

It pisses me off when I see what he hired based on who was allegedly interested- like Scott Satterfield.

Sorry man. Wanting our athletic department and our athletic director embarrassed on national radio is really bad man.

You man want change but making our university look bad in the process is not the way to go.

As far as Satterfield goes I don't have any knowledge of that ornif there was actual interest. Don't think it matters honestly. We should never want our university publicly. We don't need national embarrassment to make changes at our university.

dawgday166
10-18-2019, 05:46 PM
Sorry man. Wanting our athletic department and our athletic director embarrassed on national radio is really bad man.

You man want change but making our university look bad in the process is not the way to go.

As far as Satterfield goes I don't have any knowledge of that ornif there was actual interest. Don't think it matters honestly. We should never want our university publicly. We don't need national embarrassment to make changes at our university.

I don't think this does irreparable damage. No one will remember tomorrow. Everyone was laughing at LSU 2 years ago.

Todd4State
10-18-2019, 05:46 PM
if we passed on Satterfield, wow.


That woulda been a real good hire IMO for last year's team.
There were others like Kyle Whittingham- enough to make me believe we could and should have done better.

It looks to me like Cohen tried to outsmart everyone.

99jc
10-18-2019, 05:47 PM
Sorry man. Wanting our athletic department and our athletic director embarrassed on national radio is really bad man.

You man want change but making our university look bad in the process is not the way to go.

As far as Satterfield goes I don't have any knowledge of that ornif there was actual interest. Don't think it matters honestly. We should never want our university publicly. We don't need national embarrassment to make changes at our university.


Our football team and head coach is a national embarrassment! We just lost to a joke of a team and the nation noticed.

dawgday166
10-18-2019, 05:48 PM
There were others like Kyle Whittingham- enough to make me believe we could and should have done better.

It looks to me like Cohen tried to outsmart everyone.

My take: Cohen is enamored with smart folks and out-of-the-box analytics. Some of that works in Billy Beane baseball but football or basketball ... not so much.

Todd4State
10-18-2019, 05:48 PM
Sorry man. Wanting our athletic department and our athletic director embarrassed on national radio is really bad man.

You man want change but making our university look bad in the process is not the way to go.

As far as Satterfield goes I don't have any knowledge of that ornif there was actual interest. Don't think it matters honestly. We should never want our university publicly. We don't need national embarrassment to make changes at our university.

I was embarrassed losing to Kentucky, Florida, Tennessee, and Kansas State. He needs to face some wrath.

timotheus
10-18-2019, 05:49 PM
It all goes back to the personality of the applicant. Cohen may have to ultimately change his tune but he does not want to hire an alpha type. He looks for people who have to feel like they owe him something. It looks like stuff is building up and festered and bout to blow.

bobtail bob
10-18-2019, 05:51 PM
I was embarrassed losing to Kentucky, Florida, Tennessee, and Kansas State. He needs to face some wrath.

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MetEdDawg
10-18-2019, 05:54 PM
I was embarrassed losing to Kentucky, Florida, Tennessee, and Kansas State. He needs to face some wrath.

So was I. Keep that shit internal. It hurts recruiting. People use it against us. I don't know why people think Cohen needs someone in the media to shell him and make him look bad to "humble" him. That's just bullshit.

We can't get people in the media to take us seriously because we do dumb shit as a collective. This is one of those times where we are doing dumb shit to hurt our image.

Name one serious program that doesn't display an image of superiority and level headedness in college sports? It's stupid to think embarrassing your program is good for your program. It baffles me that people can rationalize this as good. Mad is ok. But being glad for the leader of our athletic department to get dismantled in front of millions of people? How stupid have we become?

99jc
10-18-2019, 05:54 PM
Damn Finebaum said Cohen should be on dancing with the stars. LMAO! Then he followed up with losing to KSU and Tenn is inexcusable!

timotheus
10-18-2019, 06:00 PM
So was I. Keep that shit internal. It hurts recruiting. People use it against us. I don't know why people think Cohen needs someone in the media to shell him and make him look bad to "humble" him. That's just bullshit.

We can't get people in the media to take us seriously because we do dumb shit as a collective. This is one of those times where we are doing dumb shit to hurt our image.

Name one serious program that doesn't display an image of superiority and level headedness in college sports? It's stupid to think embarrassing your program is good for your program. It baffles me that people can rationalize this as good. Mad is ok. But being glad for the leader of our athletic department to get dismantled in front of millions of people? How stupid have we become?

I'm all for the IB having it handed to him. Lotta folks leaning on the ole IB right now and he needs to "step up to the plate".

Dawg2003
10-18-2019, 06:00 PM
Ole Paul took Cohen to the woodshed.

Maroonthirteen
10-18-2019, 06:01 PM
Our fan base needs to evaluate where it's at right now.

Many of you are happy our AD got embarrassed on a nationally syndicated radio station.

We have turned into a bunch of self sabotaging buffoons

Buffoons have always been a fraction of the State fan base. The things I?ve heard people repeat or say about players from Bond to Taite/Moulds and Sherrill to Fitz...... just ridiculous things.

Percho
10-18-2019, 06:04 PM
Our fan base needs to evaluate where it's at right now.

Many of you are happy our AD got embarrassed on a nationally syndicated radio station.

We have turned into a bunch of self sabotaging buffoons

A M E N Brother!

MetEdDawg
10-18-2019, 06:06 PM
I'm all for the IB having it handed to him. Lotta folks leaning on the ole IB right now and he needs to "step up to the plate".

So Cohen I'm sure is feeling heat internally and from the major money players.

What benefits our university from the nation seeing a shock jock radio host try and weasel uncomfortable answers out of our athletic director in front of millions of people?

This is not a difficult concept to understand people. That's what's so bad

AROB44
10-18-2019, 06:07 PM
So was I. Keep that shit internal. It hurts recruiting. People use it against us. I don't know why people think Cohen needs someone in the media to shell him and make him look bad to "humble" him. That's just bullshit.

We can't get people in the media to take us seriously because we do dumb shit as a collective. This is one of those times where we are doing dumb shit to hurt our image.

Name one serious program that doesn't display an image of superiority and level headedness in college sports? It's stupid to think embarrassing your program is good for your program. It baffles me that people can rationalize this as good. Mad is ok. But being glad for the leader of our athletic department to get dismantled in front of millions of people? How stupid have we become?


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to MetEdDawg again.

CoachT14
10-18-2019, 06:08 PM
I was working when it came on. Is there anywhere to watch it?

ScottH
10-18-2019, 06:11 PM
That was not a good look for Cohen.

AROB44
10-18-2019, 06:12 PM
It all goes back to the personality of the applicant. Cohen may have to ultimately change his tune but he does not want to hire an alpha type. He looks for people who have to feel like they owe him something. It looks like stuff is building up and festered and bout to blow.


That's your opinion......seems to be a popular one on here. I wonder exactly how many on here have ever hired anyone to a high level position. Probably very few, but they all know how it should be done and would never make any mistakes.

Coursesuper
10-18-2019, 06:18 PM
So was I. Keep that shit internal. It hurts recruiting. People use it against us. I don't know why people think Cohen needs someone in the media to shell him and make him look bad to "humble" him. That's just bullshit.

We can't get people in the media to take us seriously because we do dumb shit as a collective. This is one of those times where we are doing dumb shit to hurt our image.

Name one serious program that doesn't display an image of superiority and level headedness in college sports? It's stupid to think embarrassing your program is good for your program. It baffles me that people can rationalize this as good. Mad is ok. But being glad for the leader of our athletic department to get dismantled in front of millions of people? How stupid have we become?

Bro let me let you in on a little secret, the way the football team is performing right now is hurting the MSU image way nore than the way you perceive our fan base to be behaving.

Our AD who prides himself on being the smartest guy in the room was just taken out behind the woodshed by a very experienced and just as smart as him TV and radio personality. There is no way to hide behind, spin or take up for Cohen on that. Finebaum ate his ass alive, and it was very uncomfortable to watch. But it is what it is.

TrapGame
10-18-2019, 06:29 PM
if we passed on Satterfield, wow.

If that's true, holy shit.

Todd Monken too. His offensive scheme is similar to Mullen's. With the right DC 2018 would have been a blast.

TheLostDawg
10-18-2019, 06:33 PM
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mississippi-state-football/mississippi-state-ad-john-cohen-weighs-in-on-reports-linking-joe-moorhead-to-rutgers/

There is a clip. Embarrassing for all of us. That's who is running our athletic department. He certainly needed more time before he was ready for everything that comes with being an AD in the SEC. I support Cohen but was one that thought we needed an outsider to bring new ideas while keeping the old ones we could to keep doing what we were doing right. Strickland is basically a replica of Cohen in many ways. He made mistakes and got some right. I think just like everything else here, it's a learning curve. If Moorhead isn't here next year hopefully we will hire someone that doesn't have a learning curve or at least as minimal is possible. When we were a doormat, learning curve was okay. That's not the case anymore.

99jc
10-18-2019, 06:39 PM
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mississippi-state-football/mississippi-state-ad-john-cohen-weighs-in-on-reports-linking-joe-moorhead-to-rutgers/

There is a clip. Embarrassing for all of us. That's who is running our athletic department. He certainly needed more time before he was ready for everything that comes with being an AD in the SEC. I support Cohen but was one that thought we needed an outsider to bring new ideas while keeping the old ones we could to keep doing what we were doing right. Strickland is basically a replica of Cohen in many ways. He made mistakes and got some right. I think just like everything else here, it's a learning curve. If Moorhead isn't here next year hopefully we will hire someone that doesn't have a learning curve or at least as minimal is possible. When we were a doormat, learning curve was okay. That's not the case anymore.

Paul said him and Cohen were buddys?.bet that is a little strained right now.

AusTexDawg
10-18-2019, 06:43 PM
Our fan base needs to evaluate where it's at right now.

Many of you are happy our AD got embarrassed on a nationally syndicated radio station.

We have turned into a bunch of self sabotaging buffoons

+1

Dawgology
10-18-2019, 06:44 PM
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mississippi-state-football/mississippi-state-ad-john-cohen-weighs-in-on-reports-linking-joe-moorhead-to-rutgers/

There is a clip. Embarrassing for all of us. That's who is running our athletic department. He certainly needed more time before he was ready for everything that comes with being an AD in the SEC. I support Cohen but was one that thought we needed an outsider to bring new ideas while keeping the old ones we could to keep doing what we were doing right. Strickland is basically a replica of Cohen in many ways. He made mistakes and got some right. I think just like everything else here, it's a learning curve. If Moorhead isn't here next year hopefully we will hire someone that doesn't have a learning curve or at least as minimal is possible. When we were a doormat, learning curve was okay. That's not the case anymore.

Cohen better get his act together and get this football program fixed

Scared_Hitless
10-18-2019, 06:46 PM
I would have escorted Paul right off of campus. To sit there and shit on our athletic department and program on national tv as our guest is a joke. John said nothing wrong you dont respond to the smoke you plan internally which he is. This was low hanging fruit and reports that so far have no merit.

Todd4State
10-18-2019, 06:47 PM
So was I. Keep that shit internal. It hurts recruiting. People use it against us. I don't know why people think Cohen needs someone in the media to shell him and make him look bad to "humble" him. That's just bullshit.

We can't get people in the media to take us seriously because we do dumb shit as a collective. This is one of those times where we are doing dumb shit to hurt our image.

Name one serious program that doesn't display an image of superiority and level headedness in college sports? It's stupid to think embarrassing your program is good for your program. It baffles me that people can rationalize this as good. Mad is ok. But being glad for the leader of our athletic department to get dismantled in front of millions of people? How stupid have we become?

Be glad because Cohen thinks Moorhead is the answer and he just got it handed to him. Hopefully it makes him wake up.

Both need to start shitting or get off the pot.

Cann- bad hire.

Joe- bad hire.

Lemonis - looks good but Cohen ran his mouth during the search and still ended up with egg on his face.

I hope Keenum hires the next football coach.

But hey! Some of our athletic staff is comfortable and happy right now and that?s all that matters.***

99jc
10-18-2019, 06:59 PM
Be glad because Cohen thinks Moorhead is the answer and he just got it handed to him. Hopefully it makes him wake up.

Both need to start shitting or get off the pot.

Cann- bad hire.

Joe- bad hire.

Lemonis - looks good but Cohen ran his mouth during the search and still ended up with egg on his face.

I hope Keenum hires the next football coach.

But hey! Some of our athletic staff is comfortable and happy right now and that?s all that matters.***

Preach it brother!

NCDawg
10-18-2019, 07:05 PM
Be glad because Cohen thinks Moorhead is the answer and he just got it handed to him. Hopefully it makes him wake up.

Both need to start shitting or get off the pot.

Cann- bad hire.

Joe- bad hire.

Lemonis - looks good but Cohen ran his mouth during the search and still ended up with egg on his face.

I hope Keenum hires the next football coach.

But hey! Some of our athletic staff is comfortable and happy right now and that?s all that matters.***


I agree. Just wondering what kind of qualifications Cohen had to become AD. I know he was the baseball coach, but he doesn't seem to have the personality we need as an AD.

MetEdDawg
10-18-2019, 07:05 PM
Be glad because Cohen thinks Moorhead is the answer and he just got it handed to him. Hopefully it makes him wake up.

Both need to start shitting or get off the pot.

Cann- bad hire.

Joe- bad hire.

Lemonis - looks good but Cohen ran his mouth during the search and still ended up with egg on his face.

I hope Keenum hires the next football coach.

But hey! Some of our athletic staff is comfortable and happy right now and that?s all that matters.***

Can you explain how you know Cohen thinks Moorhead is the answer? Because he didn't fire him 6 games into his 2nd year?

What has Cohen done to tell you that Moorhead is 100% the guy?

If anything today's interview of him should prove things are tenuous.

99jc
10-18-2019, 07:14 PM
Can you explain how you know Cohen thinks Moorhead is the answer? Because he didn't fire him 6 games into his 2nd year?

What has Cohen done to tell you that Moorhead is 100% the guy?

If anything today's interview of him should prove things are tenuous.

Only because Finebaum forced his hand. Intense bastard has become a lazy bastard!

Todd4State
10-18-2019, 07:16 PM
Can you explain how you know Cohen thinks Moorhead is the answer? Because he didn't fire him 6 games into his 2nd year?

What has Cohen done to tell you that Moorhead is 100% the guy?

If anything today's interview of him should prove things are tenuous.

Extend him after going 8-5 with the number one defense in the country.

MetEdDawg
10-18-2019, 07:36 PM
Extend him after going 8-5 with the number one defense in the country.

We did that shit with Mullen in years we shouldn't have. If you think that proves what you think it does then that confirms what I think.

Our fan base is paranoid

CoachT14
10-18-2019, 07:58 PM
We did that shit with Mullen in years we shouldn't have. If you think that proves what you think it does then that confirms what I think.

Our fan base is paranoid

Mullen had earned the ability to underachieve on occasion because he elevated the program and it was bound to happen with his constant shopping himself around. Moorhead hasn't. Moorhead has utterly destroyed the program that Mullen built in 1.5 years. The two situations are not comparable by any means.

Churchill
10-18-2019, 08:03 PM
Did the word "savant" ever come up ?

Hambone
10-18-2019, 08:11 PM
The fact that there a few on here that are straight up giddy about our AD and coach getting “embarrassed” on national TV is a huge problem in itself.

Go find a new team. You’re pathetic outlook on our program can be shared with some other fan base.

maroonmania
10-18-2019, 08:25 PM
So Cohen I'm sure is feeling heat internally and from the major money players.

What benefits our university from the nation seeing a shock jock radio host try and weasel uncomfortable answers out of our athletic director in front of millions of people?

This is not a difficult concept to understand people. That's what's so bad

Probably no benefits, but this is the mega million dollar SEC of 2019 that gets covered 24/7 and talked about all day and all night, not the SEC when we hired Felker or even Croom for that matter. If you make a hire that puts a substandard product on the field, especially in football, then you will end up answering some uncomfortable questions about it. Cohen could have easily declined to appear if he would have preferred.

Pollodawg
10-18-2019, 08:26 PM
Be glad because Cohen thinks Moorhead is the answer and he just got it handed to him. Hopefully it makes him wake up.

Both need to start shitting or get off the pot.

Cann- bad hire.

Joe- bad hire.

Lemonis - looks good but Cohen ran his mouth during the search and still ended up with egg on his face.

I hope Keenum hires the next football coach.

But hey! Some of our athletic staff is comfortable and happy right now and that?s all that matters.***


People forget the botched baseball search Cohen Put on because be ran his mouth and got played by, who was that coach at Louisville, I think, who I feel certain he thought we had in the boat. He ran his mouth then. It backfired on him.

bobtail bob
10-18-2019, 08:36 PM
Be embarrassed that Cohen didn?t seem prepared for the questions. Honestly he looked a little intimidated. Is the position too big for him?

MD2020
10-18-2019, 08:39 PM
Joe and John both look lost.

MD2020
10-18-2019, 08:40 PM
Get Bill Clark on speed dial! He's a winner.

PGHBulldogBG
10-18-2019, 08:48 PM
Get Bill Clark on speed dial! He's a winner.

Bill Clark should’ve been here the day Moorhead was hired

maroonmania
10-18-2019, 08:49 PM
Get Bill Clark on speed dial! He's a winner.

Even though it worked out for us with Mullen, I personally believe its always riskier to hire an P5 OC or DC that's never been a HC than to hire a highly successful G5 HC. At least the G5 HC is already doing the same job even if on a smaller scale. Its a big step from just running one part of a team to running the entire program. I would have rather had a Bill Clark type myself than going off to the Northeast to hire an OC. Moorhead had been a HC but at an FCS level Fordham. Not sure that's close enough to the big time to give you a feel for how well a guy can do in the SEC.

MD2020
10-18-2019, 08:56 PM
Even though it worked out for us with Mullen, I personally believe its always riskier to hire an P5 OC or DC that's never been a HC than to hire a highly successful G5 HC. At least the G5 HC is already doing the same job even if on a smaller scale. Its a big step from just running one part of a team to running the entire program. I would have rather had a Bill Clark type myself than going off to the Northeast to hire an OC. Moorhead had been a HC but at an FCS level Fordham. Not sure that's close enough to the big time to give you a feel for how well a guy can do in the SEC.

He won me over after being behind the 8ball when the university shut down football. He came back immediately and won the conference with new players.

FriarsPoint
10-18-2019, 09:08 PM
I would have escorted Paul right off of campus. To sit there and shit on our athletic department and program on national tv as our guest is a joke. John said nothing wrong you dont respond to the smoke you plan internally which he is. This was low hanging fruit and reports that so far have no merit.

That?s Finebaum?s M.O. Low hanging fruit. Always has been.

Really Clark?
10-18-2019, 09:08 PM
He won me over after being behind the 8ball when the university shut down football. He came back immediately and won the conference with new players.

I like Clark and definitely would interview but when they came they also we able to over sign by a bunch and brought in like 30 JUCO players. So the bounce back while impressive in one sense does have an asterisk to it as well.

Coach007
10-18-2019, 09:39 PM
Our fan base needs to evaluate where it's at right now.

Many of you are happy our AD got embarrassed on a nationally syndicated radio station.

We have turned into a bunch of self sabotaging buffoons

Have you not figured this out yet? There are a few people here that seriously dont give a damn about our program, are clueless and would burn it down until they could claim "see I told you"

For a fact, Moorhead isn't going anywhere. However, let's assume they get there way. They will claim Moorhead left the roster in horrible shape when it kills recruiting.

They are the ones that never have anything positive to say. At all.

Coach007
10-18-2019, 09:44 PM
I want him to be embarrassed right now so that he can do what is best for our program in the long run- and that?s get rid of Joe.

It pisses me off when I see what he hired based on who was allegedly interested- like Scott Satterfield.

How do you know its a wrong hire. It is your friggin opinion. You have no idea if it is or isn't.


This is nothing more than rogue booster type shit that gets a team they "love" in trouble because they THINK they know what's best. That IS WHATS EMBARRASSING.

Todd4State
10-18-2019, 10:33 PM
How do you know its a wrong hire. It is your friggin opinion. You have no idea if it is or isn't.


This is nothing more than rogue booster type shit that gets a team they "love" in trouble because they THINK they know what's best. That IS WHATS EMBARRASSING.

First of all for reference- I said that Dan wanted to leave in 2015 based on his body language and some people tried to ridicule me. I was right.

Joe will not succeed here because he is soft. I know he is soft based on how his team plays and how he answers questions in interviews. It’s always “the SEC is humbling”, “people yelled that I sucked and my a daughter heard it”, and then some sound byte with zero tangible solutions about how to fix anything.

You can not be soft in the SEC and succeed. And if you don’t believe me- I guarantee you that I am a lot closer to right than you ever were about this team going 11-1.

And on that note- if I really did believe that we were 11-1 in terms of potential and were 3-3 I would be even more pissed off at Moorhead personally.

Coach007
10-18-2019, 11:03 PM
First of all for reference- I said that Dan wanted to leave in 2015 based on his body language and some people tried to ridicule me. I was right.

Joe will not succeed here because he is soft. I know he is soft based on how his team plays and how he answers questions in interviews. It’s always “the SEC is humbling”, “people yelled that I sucked and my a daughter heard it”, and then some sound byte with zero tangible solutions about how to fix anything.

You can not be soft in the SEC and succeed. And if you don’t believe me- I guarantee you that I am a lot closer to right than you ever were about this team going 11-1.

And on that note- if I really did believe that we were 11-1 in terms of potential and were 3-3 I would be even more pissed off at Moorhead personally.

You don't know. You think you know. And now you are dead set in doing whatever it takes to get what you THINK is right. Moorhead has won every where he has been. He isn't soft. The team isn't soft. They are handy capped due to gaps in recruiting and due to the fact of all leadership being gone.

Like I said.. nothing more than a rouge booster mentality.

Cooterpoot
10-18-2019, 11:11 PM
Bill Clark should?ve been here the day Moorhead was hired

Bill Clark can?t handle this job. Cohen would be fired if he hired him.

RezDog7
10-18-2019, 11:19 PM
Cohen trying to squirm around it! Ole Sloppy joe is gone.

If you loved it then you're no better than that piece of shit Finebaum. What the **** is wrong with you people. I would've punched that squirmy bitch in the face.

Lord McBuckethead
10-18-2019, 11:21 PM
I would have escorted Paul right off of campus. To sit there and shit on our athletic department and program on national tv as our guest is a joke. John said nothing wrong you dont respond to the smoke you plan internally which he is. This was low hanging fruit and reports that so far have no merit.

Bingo.

Coach007
10-18-2019, 11:22 PM
If you loved it then you're no better than that piece of shit Finebaum. What the **** is wrong with you people. I would've punched that squirmy bitch in the face.

What's wrong is they think they know what's best. And they only care about blowing up whatever they need to in order to get what they want. That includes PUSHING rumors. I mean... They are applauding this while recruits are wondering if they need to look elsewhere because Moorhead might being leaving and "fans" are pushing it.

But they are "FANs"

Lord McBuckethead
10-18-2019, 11:24 PM
You don't know. You think you know. And now you are dead set in doing whatever it takes to get what you THINK is right. Moorhead has won every where he has been. He isn't soft. The team isn't soft. They are handy capped due to gaps in recruiting and due to the fact of all leadership being gone.

Like I said.. nothing more than a rouge booster mentality.

Exactly. Everyone on here better start pulling for this damn team, our university, and our image. Some of you guys actually enjoyed what happened today? It was a bullshit attack, preying on a bad situation. They didn't do this shit on UMs campus when they were calling 17n hookers for recruits with the head football coach, or whatever it was.

RezDog7
10-18-2019, 11:30 PM
I got no problems with us as a fan base questioning Moorhead and/or Cohen. But right now they are part of the MSU family. I may want to kick my brothers ass, but if you mess with him you gotta deal with both of us. Finebaum would have never done that to any other coach or AD. The fact that some of you are taking solace in this tells me all I need to know about you. You're as soft as you think our team is.

Coach007
10-18-2019, 11:31 PM
Exactly. Everyone on here better start pulling for this damn team, our university, and our image. Some of you guys actually enjoyed what happened today? It was a bullshit attack, preying on a bad situation. They didn't do this shit on UMs campus when they were calling 17n hookers for recruits with the head football coach, or whatever it was.

He didn't do it with Saban to Tx either.

And let's assume they get their way. Just assume. We will losing several recruits... including KEY ones... one being Marks. Then whoever we get will behind a MASSIVE roster issue and it will take 3 years to over come and instead of blaming themselves, they will claim "I was right... look at how far Moorhead took us down"... In reality.... they would have been a part of doing that.

There is a time and a place for everything. If Moorhead can't recruit and Ms St become better in the next 1.5 years... then have the conversation with a loaded team... NOT IN A DAMN REBUILD YEAR!

GEEZ!

Todd4State
10-18-2019, 11:41 PM
You don't know. You think you know. And now you are dead set in doing whatever it takes to get what you THINK is right. Moorhead has won every where he has been. He isn't soft. The team isn't soft. They are handy capped due to gaps in recruiting and due to the fact of all leadership being gone.

Like I said.. nothing more than a rouge booster mentality.

Nope I know. It?s evident on the field. And Joe has been successful in the Patriot League which is a far cry from the SEC. And one step down from Ivy League ball- meaning you have more players that are able to intrinsically motivate themselves. SEC is big boy football- and Joe isn?t a big boy.

Hell- he took our team to a water park. If you do that you better perform on Saturday.

Todd4State
10-18-2019, 11:43 PM
He didn't do it with Saban to Tx either.

And let's assume they get their way. Just assume. We will losing several recruits... including KEY ones... one being Marks. Then whoever we get will behind a MASSIVE roster issue and it will take 3 years to over come and instead of blaming themselves, they will claim "I was right... look at how far Moorhead took us down"... In reality.... they would have been a part of doing that.

There is a time and a place for everything. If Moorhead can't recruit and Ms St become better in the next 1.5 years... then have the conversation with a loaded team... NOT IN A DAMN REBUILD YEAR!

GEEZ!

Yeah it’s my fault. I told Cohen to hire Joe over a proven G5 coach. I’m the one going soft on our guys at practice. On me guys.**

Coach007
10-18-2019, 11:58 PM
Nope I know. It?s evident on the field. And Joe has been successful in the Patriot League which is a far cry from the SEC. And one step down from Ivy League ball- meaning you have more players that are able to intrinsically motivate themselves. SEC is big boy football- and Joe isn?t a big boy.

Hell- he took our team to a water park. If you do that you better perform on Saturday.

LOL! You don't. You assume. Wrongly at that.

Like I said. Moorhead will get his time and at the end of that, if the program is down, then he will be gone. If it's the same, Ms St will give him another year.

Coach007
10-19-2019, 12:02 AM
Yeah it’s my fault. I told Cohen to hire Joe over a proven G5 coach. I’m the one going soft on our guys at practice. On me guys.**

No, what's on you and others, if by a miracle you succede, will be the massive hole created in recruiting. We already have one. Hell, even Joe (the guy you bash) told you today in the interview it's been a roller coaster at Ms St rather than steady. He's right... and you know it. 2009 set the tone at which Mullen worked, and Mullen never cared to correct it. So we got 2011, 2013, and 2016.... now 2019. And what you and the collective want is to fire a guy after 1.5 years at the cost of recruits making the already obvious gaps in the roster wider.


Time and place for every thing

Todd4State
10-19-2019, 12:05 AM
LOL! You don't. You assume. Wrongly at that.

Like I said. Moorhead will get his time and at the end of that, if the program is down, then he will be gone. If it's the same, Ms St will give him another year.

Assume? Well feel free to look like an ass like Bo Bounds in 2015 then. Of course it’s impossible to take you seriously after your predictions this year in the first place. It’s not like I’m the only one that sees this.

I would say there is about a 70% chance that Joe is gone after this season. He probably won’t be fired- but I doubt he will be back.

Todd4State
10-19-2019, 12:09 AM
No, what's on you and others, if by a miracle you succede, will be the massive hole created in recruiting. We already have one. Hell, even Joe (the guy you bash) told you today in the interview it's been a roller coaster at Ms St rather than steady. He's right... and you know it. 2009 set the tone at which Mullen worked, and Mullen never cared to correct it. So we got 2011, 2013, and 2016.... now 2019. And what you and the collective want is to fire a guy after 1.5 years at the cost of recruits making the already obvious gaps in the roster wider.


Time and place for every thing

You can’t assume the recruiting class is going to fall apart. History actually says the opposite. Recruits don’t just pick a school solely because of the coach. There are other factors as well.

Dan was terrible at roster management. Most competent coaches aren’t.

Coach007
10-19-2019, 12:10 AM
Assume? Well feel free to look like an ass like Bo Bounds in 2015 then. Of course it’s impossible to take you seriously after your predictions this year in the first place. It’s not like I’m the only one that sees this.

I would say there is about a 70% chance that Joe is gone after this season. He probably won’t be fired- but I doubt he will be back.

I already know it's not. He is here. FACT.. and YES... I know.

Todd4State
10-19-2019, 12:14 AM
I already know it's not. He is here. FACT.. and YES... I know.

Enjoy cheering for Rutgers next year.**

MD2020
10-19-2019, 03:10 AM
Bill Clark can?t handle this job. Cohen would be fired if he hired him.

Can't handle the job?

msbulldog
10-19-2019, 06:19 AM
What's embarrassing is the people in this thread that are relishing in our University and leadership being embarrassed on national TV!

MetEdDawg
10-19-2019, 07:04 AM
What's embarrassing is the people in this thread that are relishing in our University and leadership being embarrassed on national TV!

But they expect us to just be good all the time. They want us to fire our HC 6 games into year 2. They are ok with our university being embarrassed on national radio. They don't want people to go to the games. But we are supposed to be good.

But they are convinced we are a serious program. We don't do serious things consistently to be considered a serious program because the fans aren't able to be elite fans. Abandoning your university and its representatives is NOT how to be an elite fan base. Saying we shouldn't bring certain recruits on campus because of what MIGHT happen is not what an elite fan base does.

But that's not shocking because our fans aren't interested in elevating the program. More interesting in being right.

TheLostDawg
10-19-2019, 07:48 AM
Yes. If we keep this up, we'll turn into TAMU but with half the $ in the bank.

yjnkdawg
10-19-2019, 08:13 AM
Anybody who says they are a MSU, Alum, fan, or they support our university and then want some aspect of our university to be embarrassed on national tv to meet their so-called agenda should evaluate themselves and see if their agenda is more important than being proud and supportive of our university.

timotheus
10-19-2019, 08:17 AM
I would have assumed that the folks who represent us are well schooled on the issues of which they may be questioned about in an interview. I am not basking and smiling because we were embarrassed by a shyster on TV. I am furious that 2 high level employees of our school basically made themselves look bad on TV.

yjnkdawg
10-19-2019, 08:29 AM
I would have assumed that the folks who represent us are well schooled on the issues of which they may be questioned about in an interview. I am not basking and smiling because we were embarrassed by a shyster on TV. I am furious that 2 high level employees of our school basically made themselves look bad on TV.


You are basically at the mercy of the interviewer when you are on live tv and in their domain. They can even tell you that it will be this , that and this. However when you get on live tv in front of the cameras, they can throw hardball questions at you , and you can't say cut let's start over, like you can when it's not live tv. Been there and done that. I even told a reporter after a live interview that she owed me on that one. She said I probably do. But on shyster I will agree and they should have expected hardball question, but still it is hard to prepare because you don't know what and how questions will exactly be asked.

yjnkdawg
10-19-2019, 08:42 AM
That's your opinion......seems to be a popular one on here. I wonder exactly how many on here have ever hired anyone to a high level position. Probably very few, but they all know how it should be done and would never make any mistakes.



Makes you wonder how some people on here can even function and be successful in a real life job scenario, much less what you said. .................. Message board expertise overrules real life reality.***

gravedigger
10-19-2019, 09:10 AM
Our fan base needs to evaluate where it's at right now.

Many of you are happy our AD got embarrassed on a nationally syndicated radio station.

We have turned into a bunch of self sabotaging buffoons

its all the rage in the entire country right now.

R2Dawg
10-19-2019, 02:13 PM
Our fan base needs to evaluate where it's at right now.

Many of you are happy our AD got embarrassed on a nationally syndicated radio station.

We have turned into a bunch of self sabotaging buffoons

I don't think anyone is glad our AD got embarrassed but he got the result of where we are and Joe should be doing an all out blitz to get help and fix this mess. MSU fans get embarrassed every day over our showing on the field. We don't have to win them all but what we have done is a joke.

I'll also say I can't stand PF; he hates MSU. I also don't want our AD embarrassed; should be the signal that we need to do something to reverse the trajectory of our program. It could still be Joe but major changes have to happen.

timotheus
10-19-2019, 02:19 PM
You are basically at the mercy of the interviewer when you are on live tv and in their domain. They can even tell you that it will be this , that and this. However when you get on live tv in front of the cameras, they can throw hardball questions at you , and you can't say cut let's start over, like you can when it's not live tv. Been there and done that. I even told a reporter after a live interview that she owed me on that one. She said I probably do. But on shyster I will agree and they should have expected hardball question, but still it is hard to prepare because you don't know what and how questions will exactly be asked.

maybe joe is in training to go from a coordinator and john is trying to not sound like a coach an resemble as admin. they both have a ways to go.

IMissJack
10-19-2019, 06:00 PM
What's embarrassing is the people in this thread that are relishing in our University and leadership being embarrassed on national TV!

I don't enjoy it, but I and every other alum gets embarrassed every week of this crap show. If you live out of state and in the south, you are embarrassed to discuss college football with anyone on Monday mornings. While I'm doing the old man get off my lawn routine, let me ask who picks our uniforms? We play at 2:30 on national tv almost never, but when we do, we wear maroon on maroon with white helmets that looks like a throwback to Croom. Looked like 2008 all over how fitting.

PGHBulldogBG
10-19-2019, 06:28 PM
Bill Clark can?t handle this job. Cohen would be fired if he hired him.

Huh? Hell Clark would probably beat us with UAB talent this year

RougeDawg
10-19-2019, 06:46 PM
Not to pile on Cohen, but he was warned about the Cann hire by many around baseball. A really well known, high up sports writer told me that many LSU people told Cohen about the off the field issues with Cann. This reporter told me they were really surprised Cohen made the hire, knowing what everyone had told him before the hire.

Some pretty bad stuff. If I were hiring any person and had received much less negative info, I would not hire them.