Finebaun Talking to Moorhead

[TrapGame]

He'll be on shortly. I'll listen so you don't have to.

Already mentioned Joe on Rutgers' short list.

I thought he said coming up is Joe Moorhead. Now he says live in Starkville tomorrow and Joe is his first guest.

He says Moorhead to Rutgers rumors are rampant.

[dawgday166]

He'll be on shortly. I'll listen so you don't have to.

Already mentioned Joe on Rutgers' short list.

Well ... last time Finebaum was interviewing an MSU football coach about this topic was when Cohen wanted Dan outta here in 2017.

Not saying that is the case but ... it is interesting.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Can Finebaum ask him why it feels like we're suffering the effects of a 5 year NCAA investigation while ole miss is making progress?

[TrapGame]

Rosebowl is saying he has an impeccable source that says Joe is not going to Rutgers.

Oh shit, it's a done deal now!

[trojandawg]

Rosebowl is saying he has an impeccable source that says Joe is not going to Rutgers.

Oh shit, it's a done deal now!

Rosebowl...completely unreliable reliability.

[dawgday166]

Rosebowl is saying he has an impeccable source that says Joe is not going to Rutgers.

Oh shit, it's a done deal now!

Lol ... I saw that and is what I'm thinking too.

[TNDawg35]

I just scrolled through Facebook and have 6 different stories about Joe and Rutgers...

[RezDog7]

http://youtu.be/r9RvfAGh_34

Hopefully Finebaum will get this treatment while he's here.

[Turfdawg67]

Well ... last time Finebaum was interviewing an MSU football coach about this topic was when Cohen wanted Dan outta here in 2017.

Not saying that is the case but ... it is interesting.

Huh?!?!? Are you implying that the reason Don Murlins left us was because IB wanted him gone??? If not, please clarify. If so... hahahahahahaha, you be a mo-ron.

[dawgday166]

Huh?!?!? Are you implying that the reason Don Murlins left us was because IB wanted him gone??? If not, please clarify. If so... hahahahahahaha, you be a mo-ron.

Not exactly. I know Dan wanted to leave but I also think Cohen was fine with that due to the $$. He wasn't ponying up and I think him and Mullen butted heads a time or 2 also. But I'm not an insider either.

[timotheus]

Mullen is type A just like the IB thus we end up with feeble JoMo.

[Todd4State]

Not exactly. I know Dan wanted to leave but I also think Cohen was fine with that due to the $$. He wasn't ponying up and I think him and Mullen butted heads a time or 2 also. But I'm not an insider either.

If he wasn’t willing to pay him he wouldn’t have made an offer to keep him.

[Maroonthirteen]

Can Finebaum ask him why it feels like we're suffering the effects of a 5 year NCAA investigation while ole miss is making progress?

That’s how things work for Emstate. Always has.

[Todd4State]

Rosebowl is saying he has an impeccable source that says Joe is not going to Rutgers.

Oh shit, it's a done deal now!

He’s also literally the only one saying this at this point. I do think there is a chance he could end up somewhere else like Boston College or Illinois so Rosebowl may be right from a certain point of view.

I think this is most likely company line from MSU. Of course Joe probably isn’t telling MSU that he’s looking if he is looking at Rutgers.

[Turfdawg67]

Not exactly. I know Dan wanted to leave but I also think Cohen was fine with that due to the $$. He wasn't ponying up and I think him and Mullen butted heads a time or 2 also. But I'm not an insider either.

He may have been fine with DM leaving, but he wasn't looking to get rid of him... so your original comment could be slightly misconstrued.

[Turfdawg67]

Mullen is type A just like the IB thus we end up with feeble JoMo.


That's as dumb as 43.7 % of your comments. Yes... I have a spreadsheet.

[dawgday166]

If he wasn’t willing to pay him he wouldn’t have made an offer to keep him.

Maybe so, but I also got feeling Cohen was "Oh well" about it too. I also got feeling and impression reading on here that Cohen had laid some kinda ultimatum down to Mullen late previous year or early that year and Mullen didn't like it.

Not sure what he offered Dan ... I heard $6 mill. Don't know and lots of folks will tell you they do know for sure ... and maybe they do. I don't. I just got feeling Cohen was almost relieved by it some too.

Not saying Dan wanted to stay ... and maybe that was why Cohen seemed "Oh well" about it.

[TrapGame]

Finebaum just now:

"Moorhead is just not a good fit at Mississippi State."

"They hired someone just to hire someone."

"You have to a coach that understands Mississippi State. They know they're not Bama but they are proud and they want a good program."

"I've got a lot of questions for Cohen and Moorhead tomorrow."

[dawgday166]

Cohen was on Bo Bounds before TN game still saying Joe was an offensive genius or something like that and he was going to be the coach here for a while. I don't think he used word savant. But he did seem just a little careful about how he couched his replies if I recall correctly.

I did come away from that thinking Joe was gonna get 4 years or so regardless.

[TrapGame]

Cohen was on Bo Bounds before TN game still saying Joe was an offensive genius or something like that and he was going to be the coach here for a while. I don't think he used word savant. But he did seem just a little careful about how he couched his replies if I recall correctly.

I did come away from that thinking Joe was gonna get 4 years or so regardless.

"There are no American troops in Iraq. It is lies." - Baghdad Bob

[timotheus]

That's as dumb as 43.7 % of your comments. Yes... I have a spreadsheet.

What does a spreadsheet have to do with a person who has no idea what SEC football is? And yes I firmly believe Cohen hired Moorhead due to his calm non confrontational demeanor as Pruitt has. That in itself is why our team lacks motivation and a sense of urgency. What do u think JoMo's strongest quality is and the reason we should give him 5 years to see what happens?

[dawgday166]

"There are no American troops in Iraq. It is lies." - Baghdad Bob

Understand. But I thought Joe would really have to tank this year to be gone and maybe with TN loss ... that was enough. But seems like Cohen mentioned at least a couple of times it takes time to install a system, get players buy in, etc. So I kinda felt like he was gonna give that some time. I felt that after next year at the earliest would he consider making a change.

But hell, I'm wrong on this kinda stuff all the time cause I surmise but don't know any of the inner workings at those levels. I gotta figure out which one of the thousand posters on here say they have "inside information" might actually have it ***** Then pair it with what I think I'm observing from afar.

[Katdoc12]

Rosebowl is saying he has an impeccable source that says Joe is not going to Rutgers.

Oh shit, it's a done deal now!

I remember in the weeks leading up to the Egg Bowl him assuring the fans that Dan had no interest in leaving, especially to Tenn. Then once Dan is gone to FL it comes out that Dan was planning to take the Tenn job until FL opened. I hope he is as correct with this "source."

[TrapGame]

Understand. But I thought Joe would really have to tank this year to be gone and maybe with TN loss ... that was enough. But seems like Cohen mentioned at least a couple of times it takes time to install a system, get players buy in, etc. So I kinda felt like he was gonna give that some time. I felt that after next year at the earliest would he consider making a change.

But hell, I'm wrong on this kinda stuff all the time cause I surmise but don't know any of the inner workings at those levels. I gotta figure out which one of the thousand posters on here say they have "inside information" might actually have it ***** Then pair it with what I think I'm observing from afar.

It's going to be really hard to keep Joe if he finishes 4-8. Doesn't matter what Cohen says publicly. His ass is gonna raw from all the chewing.

[KB21]

I feel there is a lack of discipline and attention to detail with this program right now, and there is not much accountability if any. However, I’m not going to say that is because Joe has a calm, non confrontational demeanor. Dabo Swinney is laid back and non confrontational to a certain point, but he can light into you when you press the right buttons. I think that’s the part Joe lacks right now.

I don’t really care if the coach is mild mannered or an Orgeron type. What matters is whether you can lead and hold the players accountable.

[trojandawg]

If that?s truly Cohen thoughts then he might be packing with Moorhead if he gives him 4 years. I mean you don?t want to throw your coach under the bus on air that you hired because that reflects poorly on you. So Cohen may just being saying that now to backup what he said to make himself look better. Cohen said something last year in a Wyatt interview at practice where Cohen said ?we?ll see? when asked about the expectations and anticipation for high powered offense. Seems like he was unsure then. Like he was willing to tinker with our football program just like he used to tinker with the baseball team. I wasn?t exactly pleased we hired Cohen as AD as I believe we needed someone with more AD experience that has come up on the administrative side rather than coaching. Other sports are doing well and media liked Moorhead from the start. I?m still on the fence about Cohen but how he handles this will decide a lot of his fate

[Homedawg]

Cohen was on Bo Bounds before TN game still saying Joe was an offensive genius or something like that and he was going to be the coach here for a while. I don't think he used word savant. But he did seem just a little careful about how he couched his replies if I recall correctly.

I did come away from that thinking Joe was gonna get 4 years or so regardless.

Yep. Right before we laid an egg in rocky top. Then shit got real... year 3 is probable, but not even remotely close to a given. Year 4 is highly questionable.

[Homedawg]

I remember in the weeks leading up to the Egg Bowl him assuring the fans that Dan had no interest in leaving, especially to Tenn. Then once Dan is gone to FL it comes out that Dan was planning to take the Tenn job until FL opened. I hope he is as correct with this "source."

I have no idea if JOMO is going to Rutgers or not. What I do know is rosebowl is not where to go for inside info. See tutorgate. See he said Autry wasn't going to ut( from a trusted source) numerous erroneous recruit predictions. He finally stopped even guessing he missed so many. So believe what you want from him.

[Turfdawg67]

Maybe so, but I also got feeling Cohen was "Oh well" about it too. I also got feeling and impression reading on here that Cohen had laid some kinda ultimatum down to Mullen late previous year or early that year and Mullen didn't like it.

Not sure what he offered Dan ... I heard $6 mill. Don't know and lots of folks will tell you they do know for sure ... and maybe they do. I don't. I just got feeling Cohen was almost relieved by it some too.

Not saying Dan wanted to stay ... and maybe that was why Cohen seemed "Oh well" about it.

Haven't read the post below these but saying "Oh Well" and "IB wanting him gone" are two different beasts. Not busting your chops but just wondering where you are coming from. Cohen didn't want DM gone, period.

[Turfdawg67]

Finebaum just now:

"Moorhead is just not a good fit at Mississippi State."

"They hired someone just to hire someone."

"You have to a coach that understands Mississippi State. They know they're not Bama but they are proud and they want a good program."

"I've got a lot of questions for Cohen and Moorhead tomorrow."

Disagree with "we hired someone, just to hire someone". JoMo was rated one of, if not the Best, coordinators out there... he just wasn't ready to be a head coach in the SEC. It happens.

[Bothrops]

Can Finebaum ask him why it feels like we're suffering the effects of a 5 year NCAA investigation while ole miss is making progress?

This is exactly what it feels like.

[Turfdawg67]

I remember in the weeks leading up to the Egg Bowl him assuring the fans that Dan had no interest in leaving, especially to Tenn. Then once Dan is gone to FL it comes out that Dan was planning to take the Tenn job until FL opened. I hope he is as correct with this "source."

Rosebowl has lost a lot of clout with many of us for sure.

[Turfdawg67]

What does a spreadsheet have to do with a person who has no idea what SEC football is? And yes I firmly believe Cohen hired Moorhead due to his calm non confrontational demeanor as Pruitt has. That in itself is why our team lacks motivation and a sense of urgency. What do u think JoMo's strongest quality is and the reason we should give him 5 years to see what happens?

Look... stats are stats. You are wrong 43.7% of the time.****

[Bothrops]

Disagree with "we hired someone, just to hire someone". JoMo was rated one of, if not the Best, coordinators out there... he just wasn't ready to be a head coach in the SEC. It happens.

Fineball doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

[dawgday166]

Haven't read the post below these but saying "Oh Well" and "IB wanting him gone" are two different beasts. Not busting your chops but just wondering where you are coming from. Cohen didn't want DM gone, period.

Dude ... you're busting my chops mane! ***

Probably not the best phrase to use. But on a personal level, I did get feeling Cohen did not mind in the least to see him go. On a professional level, different story. You can want someone out of circle, but know it's not the best business move. Cohen also may have been told "Offer him $6 mill, take it or leave it".

Urban Meyer said 1st time he ever met Dan he wanted to punch him in the mouth after engaging with him for a while. And said he still felt that way often while working with him. That's kinda what I mean. I always felt Cohen and Dan just kinda circled around each other.

Hell .. Dan was always shopping so from reading and surmising from afar I'm most likely way off base.

On another note: Rosie was asked if Rutgers ain't interested or is Joe not interested, or both. Rosie says he has no clue about Rutgers but on this side Rosie said he was told it ain't happening. Now I do know Rosie enough to know this ... he really doesn't know either way. His puppies will still idolize him tomorrow tho LOL. Rosie means well and overall is a good guy.

[timotheus]

Look... stats are stats. You are wrong 43.7% of the time.****

Oh so u are like this 007 sunshine pumping guy who says the sky isn't falling. Was I wrong about JoMo not really having a clue about SEC defenses or the fact that Stevens never played up north due to being soft? Or is it incorrect that JOMO inherited a team last year that most college coaches not named Moorhead would have gone 12-1? I hate it man cuz I love MSU but of Cohen don't cut the cord, we'll be a looking up a upig and ushark after joe craps up next season. I'm being brutally honest.

[Homedawg]

Disagree with "we hired someone, just to hire someone". JoMo was rated one of, if not the Best, coordinators out there... he just wasn't ready to be a head coach in the SEC. It happens.

I agree. It happens.

[Coursesuper]

Rosey is out in full force on this Rutgers thing all of a sudden, which means he has marching orders to,get out there on social media and refute as much as possible. Do not believe a word from that guys suck, he will feed you the party line, hook line and sinker.

He is the most zealous of the fan media, there may be a wiff of truth in what he's putting out there but his job is to pass on what he's handed from the athletic department. They will not want to look bad in this so be ready for more of this.

[Maroonthirteen]

I don’t believe for a second Cohen hired a football coach because Cohen felt he could make the coach his submissive.

It was simple as Pruitt and Moorhead were the best two candidates that wanted the job. Then Pruitt bombed the interview and Moorhead interviewed well. I forget who it was.... maybe Barto... that graded Moorhead as the to assistant to hire in 2018/19.

[dawgday166]

Rosey is out in full force on this Rutgers thing all of a sudden, which means he has marching orders to,get out there on social media and refute as much as possible. Do not believe a word from that guys suck, he will feed you the party line, hook line and sinker.

He is the most zealous of the fan media, there may be a wiff of truth in what he's putting out there but his job is to pass on what he's handed from the athletic department. They will not want to look bad in this so be ready for more of this.

You know I used to respect Paul a lot as a reporter but ... he ain't been nuthin but an apologist for Moorhead. He has as many excuses for what Moorhead do as 007 does almost.

[dawgday166]

I don’t believe for a second Cohen hired a football coach because Cohen felt he could make the coach his submissive.

It was simple as Pruitt and Moorhead were the best two candidates that wanted the job. Then Pruitt bombed the interview and Moorhead interviewed well. I forget who it was.... maybe Barto... that graded Moorhead as the to assistant to hire in 2018/19.

Well ... I do remember 1st thing outta Moorhead's mouth when he shook hands with Cohen (after getting off plane I think) ... "How's it going Boss". Probably don't mean nuthin just sayin.

ETA: Bartoo did grade Moorhead and a DC I believe (can't for sure remember) as his top 2 coordinators. Graded Moorhead/Shoop combo as #1 new tandem too. I believe he had it higher than Mullen/Grantham tandem cause he ain't huge fan of Grantham but he is of Mullen.

[Coach34]

Rosey is a really good reporter on State athletics and his work on Freezus is etched in stone...However lets remember:

1. Rosey said Mullen would not leave and go to Tenn. We found out after the fact that Mullen was headed to Tenn until Fla called. Elitedawgs broke the Mullen was leaving story days before Jeanspage.

2. Rosey didnt confirm the suspensions in football until August. He kept accepting the University position. Elitedawgs broke the suspensions months before.

3. As of today- Jo-Vester probably wouldnt leave for Rutgers. We lose to UPig- Jo-Vester may be informed he better accept the Rutgers job. When 6-6 is no longer happening, Jo-Vester's job security drops.

[dawgday166]

Well ... at the risk of making yo head bigger than it is C34 (just keeding dude, sorta) ... I did hear the Mullen stuff from you first and thought you were just stirring some shat up. In fact, I was on you about it cause it was like the night before or maybe 2 nights before the Egg Bowl. But ... you was right. Rosie got on board "exploring" the rumors couple days later.

Now that don't mean you right about everything you post. But your batting avg is pretty solid ****

[TrapGame]

Something that just hit me about calming the rumors is recruiting. I'm sure Joe is going to tell Finebaum tomorrow he's a pine box away from leaving. The players and recruits need some stability.

It does look like Garrett has a lot of leadership potential b/c Joe was saying tonight that the offense just gravitates toward him and would follow him to the gates of hell.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Cohen was on Bo Bounds before TN game still saying Joe was an offensive genius or something like that and he was going to be the coach here for a while. I don't think he used word savant. But he did seem just a little careful about how he couched his replies if I recall correctly.

I did come away from that thinking Joe was gonna get 4 years or so regardless.

Cohen made the rounds on local radio the week after the Auburn game for damage control. Not sure I ever remember him doing that like he did this time in the past. Pucker factor in the AD Dept must be getting high.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Something that just hit me about calming the rumors is recruiting. I'm sure Joe is going to tell Finebaum tomorrow he's a pine box away from leaving. The players and recruits need some stability.

It does look like Garrett has a lot of leadership potential b/c Joe was saying tonight that the offense just gravitates toward him and would follow him to the gates of hell.

The only reason Shrader is here is JoMo. If he were to take another job, we better hope like hell The Beard likes StarkVegas.

[msstate7]

The only reason Shrader is here is JoMo. If he were to take another job, we better hope like hell The Beard likes StarkVegas.

I love shrader, but shrader ain't worth keeping joe

[Homedawg]

I love shrader, but shrader ain't worth keeping joe

True. But starting a tr fr or Mayden is a painful deal. Don't think jt will be here either way. But could wrong

[Todd4State]

Something that just hit me about calming the rumors is recruiting. I'm sure Joe is going to tell Finebaum tomorrow he's a pine box away from leaving. The players and recruits need some stability.

It does look like Garrett has a lot of leadership potential b/c Joe was saying tonight that the offense just gravitates toward him and would follow him to the gates of hell.

I think recruiting is the main reason for the company line at this point. I may be wrong but Shrader is why I think we win six. And I think we beat Tennessee with Shrader starting.

[Todd4State]

I love shrader, but shrader ain't worth keeping joe

I’m not sure that he would go to Rutgers with Joe. Probably depends on who we hire.

[FriarsPoint]

I don?t believe for a second Cohen hired a football coach because Cohen felt he could make the coach his submissive.

It was simple as Pruitt and Moorhead were the best two candidates that wanted the job. Then Pruitt bombed the interview and Moorhead interviewed well. I forget who it was.... maybe Barto... that graded Moorhead as the to assistant to hire in 2018/19.

Aiiiggght. Somebody has got to explain this to me. You mean after we?ve had a 9 year bowl run with several facilities improvements, not one, ONE, head coach with experience at the DI level had any interest in our job? And these two were the best we could do? I?m not buying just on the fact that Neal Brown was still at Troy and would be a huge improvement over what we have now.

[Todd4State]

Aiiiggght. Somebody has got to explain this to me. You mean after we?ve had a 9 year bowl run with several facilities improvements, not one, ONE, head coach with experience at the DI level had any interest in our job? And these two were the best we could do? I?m not buying just on the fact that Neal Brown was still at Troy and would be a huge improvement over what we have now.

I agree. I think we should have gone after someone with more experience. It sounds to me like we either went cheap and or tried to replicate Dan Mullen when we probably didn't have to do either one.

[Coursesuper]

Something that just hit me about calming the rumors is recruiting. I'm sure Joe is going to tell Finebaum tomorrow he's a pine box away from leaving. The players and recruits need some stability.

It does look like Garrett has a lot of leadership potential b/c Joe was saying tonight that the offense just gravitates toward him and would follow him to the gates of hell.

Bingo!

[Dawgology]

I’m not sure that he would go to Rutgers with Joe. Probably depends on who we hire.

Schrader wouldn’t go to Rutgers. That would be knowingly deciding to end his career. I’m not saying he would stay at state but he would be looking at being a starting QB in the SEC for the next three years. Hard for a guy to just walk away from that.

[tireddawg]

Dabo Swinney is laid back and non confrontational to a certain point, but he can light into you when you press the right buttons.

I've met Dabo & he is an intense guy, he's not laid back. He's all over place but ultra focused & very intelligent. Knows exactly what he wants & knows how to achieve it. You're right, he will light into his players.

Joe's problem is he doesn't demand effort, toughness, & perfection. He believes the players should demand it from themselves, that he shouldn't have to. That's a huge problem. He's too finesse, doesn't have the smash-mouth mentality, & I just don't believe he's as smart as folks seem to think.

[Dawg_Lover]

Cohen was on Bo Bounds before TN game still saying Joe was an offensive genius or something like that and he was going to be the coach here for a while. I don't think he used word savant. But he did seem just a little careful about how he couched his replies if I recall correctly.

I did come away from that thinking Joe was gonna get 4 years or so regardless.


Considering the quote ...... When you are being run out of town, try to stay in front and make it look like a parade. ...... the seller may be trying to make the product more attractive to potential buyers.

[TrapGame]

I think recruiting is the main reason for the company line at this point. I may be wrong but Shrader is why I think we win six. And I think we beat Tennessee with Shrader starting.

This will probably be debated for years around here: What if Shrader started the season and not Tommy?

[defiantdog]

I feel there is a lack of discipline and attention to detail with this program right now, and there is not much accountability if any. However, I’m not going to say that is because Joe has a calm, non confrontational demeanor. Dabo Swinney is laid back and non confrontational to a certain point, but he can light into you when you press the right buttons. I think that’s the part Joe lacks right now.

I don’t really care if the coach is mild mannered or an Orgeron type. What matters is whether you can lead and hold the players accountable.
Dabo is laid back?! I think your talking about his mom and stepdad. Dabo is all over the place. Always has been. Kirby Smart is a laidback guy outside of football. He?d put you to sleep on the golf course.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Rosey is a really good reporter on State athletics and his work on Freezus is etched in stone...However lets remember:

1. Rosey said Mullen would not leave and go to Tenn. We found out after the fact that Mullen was headed to Tenn until Fla called. Elitedawgs broke the Mullen was leaving story days before Jeanspage.

2. Rosey didnt confirm the suspensions in football until August. He kept accepting the University position. Elitedawgs broke the suspensions months before.

3. As of today- Jo-Vester probably wouldnt leave for Rutgers. We lose to UPig- Jo-Vester may be informed he better accept the Rutgers job. When 6-6 is no longer happening, Jo-Vester's job security drops.

If memory serves me correctly, the bolded part was posted by you minutes before the Egg Bowl kicked off! One of the best melts I've seen the board go through in my time on here.

[Lord McBuckethead]

It was the afternoon before the game. Timing wasn't the best for C34s Mullen to ______ post. He was right though.
C34s batting average is pretty good, but his tact is terrible.

If c34 didn't use asshole tone in every post, he would get along with everyone a little more.

Note: I do like C34 posting.

[Quaoarsking]

This will probably be debated for years around here: What if Shrader started the season and not Tommy?

We would be 5-1 (despite the glaring flaws) and dreaming of a NY6 bowl win a win tomorrow.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Something that just hit me about calming the rumors is recruiting. I'm sure Joe is going to tell Finebaum tomorrow he's a pine box away from leaving. The players and recruits need some stability.

It does look like Garrett has a lot of leadership potential b/c Joe was saying tonight that the offense just gravitates toward him and would follow him to the gates of hell.

If this is true, then why hasn't Garrett been the starter since Kentucky.....or since K-State. Seems like we might be 5-1 or 4-2 at the worst if that was the case. Just another reason to question Moorhead.

[TrapGame]

If this is true, then why hasn't Garrett been the starter since Kentucky.....or since K-State. Seems like we might be 5-1 or 4-2 at the worst if that was the case. Just another reason to question Moorhead.

Oh, exactly. I thought about that after he said it last night on Dawg Talk.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Paul asked him some tough questions and specifically asked about Rutgers. Moorhead said he would address rumors if/when his representatives were contacted.

[TrapGame]

Paul asked him some tough questions and specifically asked about Rutgers. Moorhead said he would address rumors if/when his representatives were contacted.

That's not leaving in a pine box.

[Dawg2003]

That was a weird interview that was filled with mixed messages.

[Tbonewannabe]

Paul asked him some tough questions and specifically asked about Rutgers. Moorhead said he would address rumors if/when his representatives were contacted.

This sounds like he is looking for a way out. I think he knows that he lost most of the fanbase last week and it will be hard to get it back.

[TrapGame]

This sounds like he is looking for a way out. I think he knows that he lost most of the fanbase last week and it will be hard to get it back.

100% agree. He sounds defeated. He sounded very mellow and glum last night on Dawg Talk.

[BrunswickDawg]

100% agree. He sounds defeated. He sounded very mellow and glum last night on Dawg Talk.

Team is going to feed off that negative vibe man. You can tell when you have a dead man walking. This is going to get ugly.

[Cowbell]

Team is going to feed off that negative vibe man. You can tell when you have a dead man walking. This is going to get ugly.

I agree 100% - at least go down fighting.

[Tbonewannabe]

Team is going to feed off that negative vibe man. You can tell when you have a dead man walking. This is going to get ugly.

How we actually look against LSU is going to tell you a lot on what the rest of the season will be like. If we come out excited and with great effort no matter the score then we might be ok for the rest of the year. If we hang our head when they go up then it might be bad.

[Commercecomet24]

This probably doesn't mean anything at this point but heard from some players been the most physical week of practice they've had and was a different atmosphere(in a good way) this week. Shrader won the players over and they've been wanting him to be the starter since uk. He's got some dak in him. We'll see how tomorrow goes but the hope train has sailed for most of us I believe.

[dawgday166]

Ole Rosie SMDH. Just quoted Moorhead on how he's committed to staying here. Maybe he is but all coaches say that just before the bolt out the door ... Saban at Miami, Mullen up till Egg Bowl, etc.

[TrapGame]

This probably doesn't mean anything at this point but heard from some players been the most physical week of practice they've had and was a different atmosphere(in a good way) this week. Shrader won the players over and they've been wanting him to be the starter since uk. He's got some dak in him. We'll see how tomorrow goes but the hope train has sailed for most of us I believe.

Joe actually mentioned on Dawg Talk how practices this week have been tougher. He also said Shrader has been getting on upperclassmen for loafing. Darryl Williams has been too.

[dawgday166]

Joe actually mentioned on Dawg Talk how practices this week have been tougher. He also said Shrader has been getting on upperclassmen for loafing. Darryl Williams has been too.

The wool is growing *********

I'm on the 007 train ... 9-3. ********

[TrapGame]

The wool is growing *********

I'm on the 007 train ... 9-3. ********

Yeah, it's a little late to do the right thing now.

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah, it's a little late to do the right thing now.

That was my opinion as well. Why has he waited? Smh

[Tbonewannabe]

Yeah, it's a little late to do the right thing now.

I think it is too late also but if this is a turning point and he can get us to a bowl while finishing strong in recruiting, it would be nice. He still has the rest of the season to try and do something, I just don't have any faith in him anymore.

[TrapGame]

I think it is too late also but if this is a turning point and he can get us to a bowl while finishing strong in recruiting, it would be nice. He still has the rest of the season to try and do something, I just don't have any faith in him anymore.

Me either. I'd love to get to 6-6 but if we look like a completely different team starting Saturday I'm gonna pissed this wasn't the focus from day effing one!

[Coursesuper]

Joe actually mentioned on Dawg Talk how practices this week have been tougher. He also said Shrader has been getting on upperclassmen for loafing. Darryl Williams has been too.

Great, but when I see a player having his ass sent to the bench for half stepping I'll believe it until then it's just more words. Rosey has been on the PR full court press this week hasn't he, amazing isn't it.

[Bothrops]

Apparently new coaches don't learn things in the SEC until they fail first.

[dawgday166]

Yeah, it's a little late to do the right thing now.

Probably felt like he was beating his daughter with a chain when he made them practice hard this week ****

[Commercecomet24]

I think it is too late also but if this is a turning point and he can get us to a bowl while finishing strong in recruiting, it would be nice. He still has the rest of the season to try and do something, I just don't have any faith in him anymore.

This is where I'm at as well. Nothing would please me more than for this team to finish strong and joe to succeed but I just don't believe it'll happen.

[MD2020]

Im ready for Joe to go! Bring in Bill Clark before Auburn gets him.

[DownwardDawg]

This is where I'm at as well. Nothing would please me more than for this team to finish strong and joe to succeed but I just don't believe it'll happen.

I’m with ya.

[Dawg_Lover]

Interesting that Finebaum just asked Matt Wyatt what he thought Coach was trying to accomplish bringing up his daughter in the press conference. Wyatt answered he couldn’t speak to what he was trying to accomplish, but diplomatically said it was just coming from his genuine personality and feelings. Nothing earth-shattering, just interesting.

[MetEdDawg]

Finebaum asked Moorhead the same question 3 times in a row about Rutgers. Moorhead told him twice he was focused on MSU and taking us to a championship level program. Third time he said if they get a call we will deal with it.

If this fan base thinks those responses are an issue then our fan base has gone completely mental

[Todd4State]

This is where I'm at as well. Nothing would please me more than for this team to finish strong and joe to succeed but I just don't believe it'll happen.

Joe sounded like a timid puppy talking to Finebaum tonight.