Irondawg
10-14-2019, 11:39 AM
First off you have to identify why this marriage isn't working out and the true depth of the issues with the program. I'm calling every senior that graduated last year for their opinion and then I'm bringing in the supposed senior leaders on this team from some honest 1:1 time.
That should give you a very good idea of the pulse assuming you get some consistent feedback.
From there you determine if this thing can be salvaged or not. I know 98% of ya'll would can him today, but Cohen's job isn't to make the impulse decision, it's to make the right decision for MSU. If after getting all the first hand information along with what he knows about Joe you think it's not going to work you prepare the exit plan and start contacting agents.
However, if you think it can potentially be fixed somehow you try to make that work as one of the biggest long-term measures of success from non-blue bloods is consistency in the coaching staffs ( Beamer VT, Snyder KSU, Iowa staff, etc). You never want to blow it up unless you just have to.
The easiest way to get this fixed in my eyes if you decide to keep him is with the coordinators. Starting on offense it's clear we need an OC actually in charge of play-calling. I think it's extremely, extremely hard to be the OC and the HC at the same time. A few succeed with it, but a ton fail as well and I think it's hurting Joe. Heck Mullen gets away with it but there are times I think it catches up with him. This new OC would need to be incredibly focused on technique and discipline. No more INT caused by a receiver not running his route at full speed. No more having 2 false starts by QB not waiting for the motioned WR to get set. Let Joe be good cop, but you need a big time bad cop on that side of the ball and we don't have one right now.
On defense the jury is still out on Schoop as his resume is full of ups and downs. In the end I think he's a slightly above average DC but nothing special. Most DC's are good with lots of talent, most DC's are bad without any talent. This year we have very little true SEC talent on the defensive side of the ball so it's really hard to tell. But he's also the safety coach and we've been truly awful there most of the year. I can't call this one so would probably come down to what I thought current and former players thought about him. I wouldn't be upset if he left or if he stayed. Cases can be made for both in my opinion.
I'm still one that thinks Joe has some potential as a head coach. I think his biggest problem is the ability to implement across the board what he says he believes in as he always mentions "precision" and I think he'd tell you he wants to be physical. Find some guys to help him with his weaknesses and it could still work. I have a hard time believing the locker room is lost to him because there were so many ex players that spoke really, really highly of him when we hired him.
If you have the conversation and he pulls a Cutcliff and can't admit some of his deficiencies then you for sure pull the plug.
We all know it's not working right now so it's up to Cohen to fix it one way or the other.
That should give you a very good idea of the pulse assuming you get some consistent feedback.
From there you determine if this thing can be salvaged or not. I know 98% of ya'll would can him today, but Cohen's job isn't to make the impulse decision, it's to make the right decision for MSU. If after getting all the first hand information along with what he knows about Joe you think it's not going to work you prepare the exit plan and start contacting agents.
However, if you think it can potentially be fixed somehow you try to make that work as one of the biggest long-term measures of success from non-blue bloods is consistency in the coaching staffs ( Beamer VT, Snyder KSU, Iowa staff, etc). You never want to blow it up unless you just have to.
The easiest way to get this fixed in my eyes if you decide to keep him is with the coordinators. Starting on offense it's clear we need an OC actually in charge of play-calling. I think it's extremely, extremely hard to be the OC and the HC at the same time. A few succeed with it, but a ton fail as well and I think it's hurting Joe. Heck Mullen gets away with it but there are times I think it catches up with him. This new OC would need to be incredibly focused on technique and discipline. No more INT caused by a receiver not running his route at full speed. No more having 2 false starts by QB not waiting for the motioned WR to get set. Let Joe be good cop, but you need a big time bad cop on that side of the ball and we don't have one right now.
On defense the jury is still out on Schoop as his resume is full of ups and downs. In the end I think he's a slightly above average DC but nothing special. Most DC's are good with lots of talent, most DC's are bad without any talent. This year we have very little true SEC talent on the defensive side of the ball so it's really hard to tell. But he's also the safety coach and we've been truly awful there most of the year. I can't call this one so would probably come down to what I thought current and former players thought about him. I wouldn't be upset if he left or if he stayed. Cases can be made for both in my opinion.
I'm still one that thinks Joe has some potential as a head coach. I think his biggest problem is the ability to implement across the board what he says he believes in as he always mentions "precision" and I think he'd tell you he wants to be physical. Find some guys to help him with his weaknesses and it could still work. I have a hard time believing the locker room is lost to him because there were so many ex players that spoke really, really highly of him when we hired him.
If you have the conversation and he pulls a Cutcliff and can't admit some of his deficiencies then you for sure pull the plug.
We all know it's not working right now so it's up to Cohen to fix it one way or the other.