Vandy and the Bears

[RocketDawg]

Just starting. The crowd is wearing a sickly blue.

[TrapGame]

Lot of empty seats.

[RocketDawg]

Bears up 10-0

[msstate7]

Bears up 10-0

We ain't gonna stop OM running the ball. We'll either score 42 or lose

[Quaoarsking]

We ain't gonna stop OM running the ball. We'll either score 42 or lose

76.6% chance of an MSU victory
http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi?id=344&year=2019

[parabrave]

Dam Plumlee is doing his best Nicky Fitz impression.

[msstate7]

76.6% chance of an MSU victory
http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi?id=344&year=2019

What was the % of us winning KSU game?

[Liverpooldawg]

We ain't gonna stop OM running the ball. We'll either score 42 or lose

So go be an Ole Miss Confederate or shut up. It's getting old man, seriously.

[Saltydog]

Unfortunately, they're getting better and gaining confidence. If we get the shit kicked out of us next week, and I'm afraid that's gonna happen, we'll start a downward slide that may limit us to 4 wins total for the year. It could get UGLY.

[msstate7]

So go be an Ole Miss Confederate or shut up. It's getting old man, seriously.

I really don't care what you think. If you think we gonna whip anyone in the see, you a fool though

[Jarius]

76.6% chance of an MSU victory
http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi?id=344&year=2019

He only brings up that thing when it paints State in a negative light. Complete troll.

[msstate7]

Unfortunately, they're getting better and gaining confidence. If we get the shit kicked out of us next week, and I'm afraid that's gonna happen, we'll start a downward slide that may limit us to 4 wins total for the year. It could get UGLY.

Go be a confederate!!!**

[Jarius]

I really don't care what you think. If you think we gonna whip anyone in the see, you a fool though

We have already whipped 1 team in the sec.

[dawgday166]

Unfortunately, they're getting better and gaining confidence. If we get the shit kicked out of us next week, and I'm afraid that's gonna happen, we'll start a downward slide that may limit us to 4 wins total for the year. It could get UGLY.

You closet Confederate troll you ****

[Quaoarsking]

What was the % of us winning KSU game?

It doesn't show up now, but as of right now they have us 25th and KSU 32nd so it would probably be around 60%.

If you flip a coin and it lands heads, it doesn't mean that the next flip will (or won't) be heads. We could lose to Ole Miss in the 23.4% scenario, just like we lost to Kansas State in the 40% scenario, but we probably won't.

[Quaoarsking]

I really don't care what you think. If you think we gonna whip anyone in the see, you a fool though

Shrader will whip at least 2 more SEC teams this year and probably around 10 or more in his career. Hopefully more.

[msstate7]

It doesn't show up now, but as of right now they have us 25th and KSU 32nd so it would probably be around 60%.

If you flip a coin and it lands heads, it doesn't mean that the next flip will (or won't) be heads. We could lose to Ole Miss in the 23.4% scenario, just like we lost to Kansas State in the 40% scenario, but we probably won't.

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?76302-State-s-updated-FPI-chances-by-game

74.3%

[Saltydog]

And yet he's one of the main ones I see in a lot of threads saying "I told you so" about expectations for this season.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

15 yard penalty on Vandy's RB for saying something to the ref. Heaven forbid a player voice displeasure with a ref

[SailingDawg]

15 yard penalty on Vandy's RB for saying something to the ref. Heaven forbid a player voice displeasure with a ref

Vandy RD was thrown out of bounds, he had a right to complain.

[Pollodawg]

Vandy has figured Plumlee out some.

[Commercecomet24]

Plumlee can run can't throw a lick. Spy Plumlee and that eliminates him.They still can't tackle and are slow on defense.

[Commercecomet24]

Vandy has figured Plumlee out some.

They spying him now and keeping him contained just like bama did after he had some success running last week

[Pollodawg]

Shoulda been a pic. He can’t throw at all.

[Commercecomet24]

Shoulda been a pic. He can’t throw at all.

Yeah unm has no passing game with Plumlee, zero.

[Pollodawg]

Refs just let like 10 secs run off the clock. Shouldn’t have happened.

[Really Clark?]

Mason hot about something. Maybe clock started a little quick? I thought it might have started a little quick but they should have spiked it

[Commercecomet24]

Refs just let like 10 secs run off the clock. Shouldn?t have happened.

Yeah that was odd. It's supposed to stop until the chains are moved and they started as soon as the kid gave the ball back to the ref. Vandy kinda got screwed there. Not surprising at that cesspool

[Commercecomet24]

Mason hot about something. Maybe clock started a little quick? I thought it might have started a little quick but they should have spiked it

It started a lot quick I hit rewind and they started it as soon as the kid gave the ball back to the ref.

[Pollodawg]

10 seconds in college is at least a play. Maybe two.

[TrapGame]

Damn, I hate ole miss.

[Commercecomet24]

Damn, I hate ole miss.

I second that.

[Pollodawg]

It started a lot quick I hit rewind and they started it as soon as the kid gave the ball back to the ref.


I’m not sure it EVER stopped.

[Commercecomet24]

I?m not sure it EVER stopped.

It was real quick almost like an nfl clock. Mason had every reason to be hot.

[TrapGame]

Did I read that stat right a while ago? OM only has like 80 yards passing?

[msstate7]

Did I read that stat right a while ago? OM only has like 80 yards passing?

If we can even just slow the running game down, we should win. I'm just concerned with our rush defense

[Commercecomet24]

Did I read that stat right a while ago? OM only has like 80 yards passing?

67

[Commercecomet24]

If we can even just slow the running game down, we should win. I'm just concerned with our rush defense

If you spy Plumlee they don't have a run game. Gotta take him out if it.

[Commercecomet24]

Plumlee 67 yards passing at 4.5 per attempt. Put 8 in the box play man press spy Plumlee and their offense is done. They're gonna have to go back to corral at some point

[msstate7]

Screw OM, but I loved that Patrick Willis story. Kid made 7 unofficial visits to tenn, and they never offered. He cried on his way home after the last visit. Went to om and became one of the best LBs the sec has saw. That's an awesome story, and probably one a lot of our players lived. Patrick Willis vs LSU with a broken hand was one of the best performances I've ever seen. Now go vandy

[TrapGame]

If we can even just slow the running game down, we should win. I'm just concerned with our rush defense

7 you know we'll probably make Plumlee look like Bo Nix last Saturday night.

[Commercecomet24]

Screw OM, but I loved that Patrick Willis story. Kid made 7 unofficial visits to tenn, and they never offered. He cried on his way home after the last visit. Went to om and became one of the best LBs the sec has saw. That's an awesome story, and probably one a lot of our players lived. Patrick Willis vs LSU with a broken hand was one of the best performances I've ever seen. Now go vandy

Yeah he was a beast and from what I've heard from people who know him a quality individual. Played his last few years in the nfl with really messed up knees. Tough tough man

And yes go Vandy

[ShotgunDawg]

What was the % of us winning KSU game?

With a healthy QB & playing the suspended players, it would've been very high.

[msstate7]

7 you know we'll probably make Plumlee look like Bo Nix last Saturday night.

I wouldn't be surprised.

[ShotgunDawg]

If we can even just slow the running game down, we should win. I'm just concerned with our rush defense

Hopefully by the Egg Bowl some of our young guys on the DL will be better

[Commercecomet24]

7 you know we'll probably make Plumlee look like Bo Nix last Saturday night.

That's always a possibility lol. Spy Plumlee with willie gay and one or both won't survive the game. Wille will contain him though

[Commercecomet24]

Secn is pimping Plumlee like he's Peyton Manning geez

[msstate7]

Hopefully by the Egg Bowl some of our young guys on the DL will be better

Yep. Plumlee isn't the biggest guy either, so he may not hold up running so much. We may not even see him

[TrapGame]

That's always a possibility lol. Spy Plumlee with willie gay and one or both won't survive the game. Wille will contain him though

That sounds pretty good.

[Commercecomet24]

Yep. Plumlee isn't the biggest guy either, so he may not hold up running so much. We may not even see him

Plumlee ain't 6 feet tall or 190 either. I've known the kid since he was 8

[Commercecomet24]

Our D has been bad but with willie and autry it's much better especially with willie. That's what everyone's forgetting we will have those 2 several more times this year.

[TrapGame]

These are two bad teams. We'd fit right in. But neither one has a Garrett Schrader or a Kylin Hill.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Did ole miss really elect a Homecoming King this year?

[ShotgunDawg]

These are two bad teams. We'd fit right in. But neither one has a Garrett Schrader or a Kylin Hill.

We're better than these two teams.

For whatever reason, our fans continue to evaluate us off of games where Willie & Autry don't play. We are significantly better with those two on the field

Our own fans also continue to evaluate us when our starting QB gets hurt. I don't understand that. Especially for the K-State game

Are our own fans dumb, unaware, or just negative? I don't understand why people can't see the difference

[msstate7]

Ealy and plumlee are explosive

[msstate7]

We're better than these two teams.

For whatever reason, our fans continue to evaluate us off of games where Willie & Autry don't play. We are significantly better with those two on the field

Our own fans also continue to evaluate us when our starting QB gets hurt. I don't understand that. Especially for the K-State game

Are own fans dumb, unaware, or just negative? I don't understand why people can't see the difference

We gave up over 6 yds/rush vs Kentucky in the 1st half; both players played

[Commercecomet24]

We're better than these two teams.

For whatever reason, our fans continue to evaluate us off of games where Willie & Autry don't play. We are significantly better with those two on the field

Our own fans also continue to evaluate us when our starting QB gets hurt. I don't understand that. Especially for the K-State game

Are own fans dumb, unaware, or just negative? I don't understand why people can't see the difference

All good points but I gotta say Trapgame is one of the more rational positive posters on the board

[dawgday166]

Ealy and plumlee are explosive

They are. And may be more explosive than Hill. Shrader tho ... He a young Fitz running so far.

[Commercecomet24]

We gave up over 6 yds/rush vs Kentucky in the 1st half; both players played

Those 2 didn't play every play and they had a couple big runs but weren't consistent running the ball so yeah they make a difference and uk was supposedly to physical for us and turns out they weren't

[TrapGame]

All good points but I gotta say Trapgame is one of the more rational positive posters on the board

When I'm on my meds.**

[dawgday166]

All good points but I gotta say Trapgame is one of the more rational positive posters on the board

Not near as rational as Gun tho ****

[Commercecomet24]

They are. And may be more explosive than Hill. Shrader tho ... He a young Fitz running so far.

Yep and Shrader maybe faster than Fitz

[msstate7]

Those 2 didn't play every play and they had a couple big runs but weren't consistent running the ball so yeah they make a difference and uk was supposedly to physical for us and turns out they weren't

Eh, we'll see how it goes. South Carolina completely dismantled that Kentucky offense

[Commercecomet24]

When I'm on my meds.**

Ha! You're a good un

[Commercecomet24]

Eh, we'll see how it goes. South Carolina completely dismantled that Kentucky offense

Naw we broke em **********

[Commercecomet24]

Not near as rational as Gun tho ****

Lmbo!

[ShotgunDawg]

Ealy and plumlee are explosive

Ealy scare me. I think we can contain Plumlee, but Ealy is scary fast. Big miss by our staff

[msstate7]

Naw we broke em **********

Shrader broke em

[ShotgunDawg]

We gave up over 6 yds/rush vs Kentucky in the 1st half; both players played

But they only scored 13 points.

Also, our QB didn't get hurt that game.

[TrapGame]

Wow. Vandy is really bad.

[msstate7]

Conner is another freshman for om

[ShotgunDawg]

They are. And may be more explosive than Hill. Shrader tho ... He a young Fitz running so far.

Both are more explosive but obviously has the throwing ability that Plumlee simply isn't capable of

[Commercecomet24]

Shrader broke em

There ya go!

[ShotgunDawg]

Not near as rational as Gun tho ****

Damn right

[Cooterpoot]

Vandy is simply horrible. They won’t win a conference game .

[msstate7]

If om were smart, they'd go get Willie fritz. They would be pretty good offensively under him and will hall with an oline recruit or 2

[ShotgunDawg]

The biggest mistake I think most MSU fans make is that they swing too far on teams week to week.

Sometimes teams get up to play games & it's a better matchup for them. Sometimes they are own the road without their two best defensive players & the QB gets hurt, sometimes ......

You have to look at more than just how a team plays each week.

[ShotgunDawg]

If om were smart, they'd go get Willie fritz. They would be pretty good offensively under him and will hall with an oline recruit or 2

I don't think they fire Luke.

I'd be willing to bet he wins 5 games & they give him another year. The new Prez is a really really nice guy that I have no doubt will error on the side of giving Luke one more year

Their bigger issue will be keeping both of these assistants that are clearly a big part of the turn around

With Plumlee & Ealy, they've got something to build with, but if Rich Rod leaves, they have to start all the way over.

I wonder if Rich Rod could perform a coup if he threatened to leave

[msstate7]

The biggest mistake I think most MSU fans make is that they swing too far on teams week to week.

Sometimes teams get up to play games & it's a better matchup for them. Sometimes they are own the road without their two best defensive players & the QB gets hurt, sometimes ......

You have to look at more than just how a team plays each week.

I'm looking at us. We haven't looked good in any game this season

[bluelightstar]

I'm looking at us. We haven't looked good in any game this season

Agreed. We look absolutely horrible and are well on our way to 4-8.

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm looking at us. We haven't looked good in any game this season

We looked pretty good against Kentucky & would've been even better if GS was a little more seasoned

You can't say KY looked awful vs Carolina without also saying they should have beaten Florida the week before.

You don't get to pick which game fits your narrative

[msstate7]

Agreed. We look absolutely horrible and are well on our way to 4-8.

4-8 is probably a little harsh. I think we end up between 5-7 wins

[bluelightstar]

4-8 is probably a little harsh. I think we end up between 5-7 wins

We have 1 home game outside of ACU where we might be favored. Ole Miss may be close to a pick em by game time and I will be shocked to see us beat UT or Ark on the road.

[chef dixon]

This may have been said already in this thread, but Vandy has the worst QB I've seen in quite some time

[msstate7]

We have 1 home game outside of ACU where we might be favored. Ole Miss may be close to a pick em by game time and I will be shocked to see us beat UT or Ark on the road.

At worst, we win 1 of om, tenn, and ark, at worst

[bluelightstar]

At worst, we win 1 of om, tenn, and ark, at worst

Honestly I don’t know how anyone can say that is *worst* case scenario. It basically means you can’t see us going 0-3 against OM, Ark, and UT even though 2 of those games are on the road.

[msstate7]

Honestly I don’t know how anyone can say that is *worst* case scenario. It basically means you can’t see us going 0-3 against OM, Ark, and UT even though 2 of those games are on the road.

I think tenn, om, ark, and us are 4 really weak teams. I'm just playing the odds that at worst, 1 of those 3 will out-suck us that day. If I were betting, I'd bet on 6-6

[Commercecomet24]

We only see our issues but just about every team outside of the top 4 or 5 in this conference have issues it ain't just us

[Commercecomet24]

Vandy may actually be slower than arky and arky is the slowest team I've ever seen especially on defense

[dawgday166]

The biggest mistake I think most MSU fans make is that they swing too far on teams week to week.

Sometimes teams get up to play games & it's a better matchup for them. Sometimes they are own the road without their two best defensive players & the QB gets hurt, sometimes ......

You have to look at more than just how a team plays each week.

So is that thumb only pointing out the window? Not at the mirror?

[dawgday166]

Yep and Shrader maybe faster than Fitz

Hard to say pre-ankle injury.

[Quaoarsking]

I think tenn, om, ark, and us are 4 really weak teams. I'm just playing the odds that at worst, 1 of those 3 will out-suck us that day. If I were betting, I'd bet on 6-6

When you take the emotion and Message Board Heroism out and just look at the numbers, all 3 of those teams are much weaker than us, based on what's been shown so far. There's not an objective ranking system out there (FPI or otherwise) that puts any of them in our league, much less better.

That doesn't mean we can't lose to them, but with Shrader settling in more and more each week and our moronic suspended players likely playing in all 3, anything worse than 2-1 is absolute disaster and Moorhead should be coaching for his job next year.

[Commercecomet24]

Hard to say pre-ankle injury.

Yeah it's pretty close. I think Shrader maybe quicker and more agile.

[Cooterpoot]

When you take the emotion and Message Board Heroism out and just look at the numbers, all 3 of those teams are much weaker than us, based on what's been shown so far. There's not an objective ranking system out there (FPI or otherwise) that puts any of them in our league, much less better.

That doesn't mean we can't lose to them, but with Shrader settling in more and more each week and our moronic suspended players likely playing in all 3, anything worse than 2-1 is absolute disaster and Moorhead should be coaching for his job next year.

No they’re not. It’s a damn toss up. And two of those games are on the road, where Moorhead has shit the bed almost every time.

[dawgday166]

Yeah it's pretty close. I think Shrader maybe quicker and more agile.

Either way ... Shrader has ton of potential. But so did Fitz early on. Situational dynamics can change tho.

[Cooterpoot]

Either way ... Shrader has ton of potential. But so did Fitz early on. Situational dynamics can change tho.

Fitz played one year of QB in an option offense. There’s no comparison.

[Commercecomet24]

Either way ... Shrader has ton of potential. But so did Fitz early on. Situational dynamics can change tho.

Agreed. I loved Fitz and how competitive he was just wish he'd been a little better passer. Dude left it all on the field every game!

[dawgday166]

Fitz played one year of QB in an option offense. There’s no comparison.

I was talking potential. And Fitz threw some pretty nice balls in mop up duty as RS Frosh. And some next year too when Fred Ross was still there.

[Todd4State]

I was talking potential. And Fitz threw some pretty nice balls in mop up duty as RS Frosh. And some next year too when Fred Ross was still there.

I prefer stud QB's that can complete 60% of their passes over pretty nice balls in mop up duty.

[Todd4State]

We only see our issues but just about every team outside of the top 4 or 5 in this conference have issues it ain't just us


When you take the emotion and Message Board Heroism out and just look at the numbers, all 3 of those teams are much weaker than us, based on what's been shown so far. There's not an objective ranking system out there (FPI or otherwise) that puts any of them in our league, much less better.

That doesn't mean we can't lose to them, but with Shrader settling in more and more each week and our moronic suspended players likely playing in all 3, anything worse than 2-1 is absolute disaster and Moorhead should be coaching for his job next year.

It's good to see signs of common sense from the MSU fan base.

[ShotgunDawg]

So is that thumb only pointing out the window? Not at the mirror?

Only Jomo does the thumb stuff. I just point fingers. Mostly at 7

[dawgday166]

Only Jomo does the thumb stuff. I just point fingers. Mostly at 7

LMAO ... Good one.

[Liverpooldawg]

Vandy ready does suck. How bad was it?

[Commercecomet24]

Vandy ready does suck. How bad was it?

Vandy wouldn't be good in any conference. They're so slow it's almost criminal. Mason still tries to run that Stanford offense and doesn't have the horses to do it.

[Maroonthirteen]

Vandy wouldn't be good in any conference. They're so slow it's almost criminal. Mason still tries to run that Stanford offense and doesn't have the horses to do it.

Agreed. They looked terrible on O last night. Terrible.

They can recruit for baseball obviously. They have that huge endowment to offer any kid a scholarship. They have their academics and the town of Nashville to recruit for them. I don’t get why they are so bad every single year. I guess the school just doesn’t care about football.

[Maroonthirteen]

Did ole miss really elect a Homecoming King this year?


Yes. At least their Queen was female. A Memphis high school had a male ?Queen? for their HC.

Time to get rid of that tradition. It?s pointless anyway.