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ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 02:34 PM
Who are you cheering for?
I think i'd rather Auburn just blow Florida out
msstate7
10-05-2019, 02:35 PM
I have Florida +3
RocketDawg
10-05-2019, 02:41 PM
That first play looked like intentional grounding by Nix.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 02:43 PM
That first play looked like intentional grounding by Nix.
Yeah, I don't know why that wasn't called. Odd. Amazing how different playing on the road vs playing at home is in this conference
BrunswickDawg
10-05-2019, 02:44 PM
Speed kills
msstate7
10-05-2019, 02:44 PM
Thank God we don't play Mullen this year
IMissJack
10-05-2019, 02:45 PM
Dan says hey JoMo do this.
Scared_Hitless
10-05-2019, 02:46 PM
Perfect Scenario for FL. 3 and out quick strike on O. Florida has something we dont speed
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 02:46 PM
Dan says hey JoMo do this.
We don't have a receiver that can make that play like that.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 02:46 PM
Perfect Scenario for FL. 3 and out quick strike on O. Florida has something we dont speed
Exactly.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 02:47 PM
Dan says hey JoMo do this.
Naww ... Now that JoMo has his QB we getting a lot more explosive plays than that.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 02:53 PM
Perfect Scenario for FL. 3 and out quick strike on O. Florida has something we dont speed
Good thing dan inherited some speed.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 02:54 PM
Florida being good on the DL changes everything vs Auburn
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 02:55 PM
I just think considering out DL pedigree, it's an absolute travesty that we are so bad there.
chef dixon
10-05-2019, 02:56 PM
Seems like our players and Jomo put on Auburn gear this week
msstate7
10-05-2019, 02:56 PM
Florida being good on the DL changes everything vs Auburn
Florida having a coach changes things too
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 02:58 PM
And Florida struggled with Miami and Kentucky. Florida still can't run the ball. Lucky trask is a better passer than franks
msstate7
10-05-2019, 02:58 PM
Hev needs to do better. Florida should be a better running team than they've been this year
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 02:59 PM
Hev needs to do better. Florida should be a better running team than they've been this year
Yeah they've got the ol talent and good enough rbs
BrunswickDawg
10-05-2019, 02:59 PM
Hev needs to do better. Florida should be a better running team than they've been this year
Perine isn't very good
msstate7
10-05-2019, 02:59 PM
Go deep right here, gus
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:00 PM
Nix looks like tommy did last week. Shrader handled it better than both of them.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:01 PM
This offense scored 42 on us by the half last week. We are putrid defensively
IMissJack
10-05-2019, 03:03 PM
This offense scored 42 on us by the half last week. We are putrid defensively
Yep. I can live with the fact we don't have the talent we had in the past (that happens). I can't live with little effort and poor technique.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:03 PM
Nix looks like tommy did last week. Shrader handled it better than both of them.
You sure about that? Nix getting hammered and he's still in the game.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:03 PM
This offense scored 42 on us by the half last week. We are putrid defensively
Gonna be interesting to see how much difference Gay and Autry make if they play this week(they better play).
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:04 PM
You sure about that? Nix getting hammered and he's still in the game.
Lol you're right.
ETA I meant more the deer in headlights look
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:06 PM
Gonna be interesting to see how much difference Gay and Autry make if they play this week(they better play).
If they don't play and we lose, Moorhead should be fired
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:07 PM
If they don't play and we lose, Moorhead should be fired
It sure would be hard to have any kind of optimism going forward if that happens especially if we were to lose
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:07 PM
Lol you're right.
ETA I meant more the deer in headlights look
Ha ... I knew what you meant.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:08 PM
Ha ... I knew what you meant.
I figured you did. You pretty sharp. It was a great point though!
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:08 PM
I'm really interested in why Mullen isn't using emory jones in the young dak role this season. Mullen must see the running game as poor, and going with more of a 2015 offense
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:08 PM
And FL turns it over again.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:09 PM
If uf can't run the ball auburns dl is gonna feast
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:10 PM
Auburn is a physical, physical team. This is why they destroyed us... we've become pretty soft
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:11 PM
It sure would be hard to have any kind of optimism going forward if that happens especially if we were to lose
If we lose to Tennessee the fire Joe crowd will become standing room only in most places. It could get ugly the rest of the season. Cohen would find himself in a very dire predicament.
magrooder
10-05-2019, 03:12 PM
That is targeting.
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:13 PM
Auburn is a physical, physical team. This is why they destroyed us... we've become pretty soft
Well, to be honest, when K State comes in and breaks one off in you for four quarters it's pretty safe to say we are as hard as Charmin.
chef dixon
10-05-2019, 03:14 PM
That is targeting.
Yep would have been called on us
magrooder
10-05-2019, 03:14 PM
So that's not targeting, but what Thompson did last week is? What a crock of crap.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:15 PM
Take a shot here with max protection
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:15 PM
If we lose to Tennessee the fire Joe crowd will become standing room only in most places. It could get ugly the rest of the season. Cohen would find himself in a very dire predicament.
He ain't getting fired this year. We would owe him 9 million from what I understand.
starkvegasdawg
10-05-2019, 03:16 PM
So that's not targeting, but what Thompson did last week is? What a crock of crap.
All depends on what that number is beside your team name. If it's 10 or lower then not targeting. If it's 11-25 then it may be targeting. If no number then it's always targeting.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:16 PM
He ain't getting fired this year. We would owe him 9 million from what I understand.
Yeah, he ain't getting fired, but he could damage himself beyond repair with the fanbase
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:17 PM
Florida's defense is salty.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:18 PM
Florida's defense is salty.
Dan was loving him some Grantham on Gameday. Seems he's found his DC that will stick with him.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:19 PM
Our old buddy, manny Diaz is working on getting ford himself
chef dixon
10-05-2019, 03:19 PM
Florida's defense is salty.
3 senior starters on the defensive line that are all NFL prospects. Dan and Grantham got their work cut out next year
Irondawg
10-05-2019, 03:20 PM
I don’t mind Shoop but I think we really thought we we could hold onto Thompson for a few years
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:20 PM
Dan was loving him some Grantham on Gameday. Seems he's found his DC that will stick with him.
With the level of DBs grantham will get at Florida, his defense could really be good for years to come
chef dixon
10-05-2019, 03:20 PM
Our old buddy, manny Diaz is working on getting ford himself
In over his head for that job from the start
baddmann
10-05-2019, 03:20 PM
Perfect example of targeting. Dude fumbled because he got knocked out...
That's exactly what the rule is trying to prevent.
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:20 PM
He ain't getting fired this year. We would owe him 9 million from what I understand.
We go 4-8 and Cohen's phone will be red hot. Justifying year three after a complete and total shit show of a second year is going to be tough. I think we are going to roll Tennessee. It's that kind of game after the AU debacle and a bye week. But if things go farther south - like to the bowels of hell - there might have to be some nut cutting.
Cooterpoot
10-05-2019, 03:21 PM
He ain't getting fired this year. We would owe him 9 million from what I understand.
It’s not that much
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:21 PM
Auburn D seems woke up now
chef dixon
10-05-2019, 03:22 PM
Perfect example of targeting. Dude fumbled because he got knocked out...
That's exactly what the rule is trying to prevent.
Agree was thinking the exact same thing
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:22 PM
Lol @ auburn
RocketDawg
10-05-2019, 03:22 PM
Why didn't Auburn field punts like that against us?
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:23 PM
Nix looks like tommy did last week. Shrader handled it better than both of them.
Nix is a meh QB. When he plays a defense with a pulse, he lacks a skill set to really impact the game.
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:23 PM
Yeah, he ain't getting fired, but he could damage himself beyond repair with the fanbase
Yeah, this what I'm saying. If Joe shits the bed the rest of the season Davis Wade will be a ghost town not seen since the you-know-who years.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:23 PM
Why that idiot don't catch ball or get the hell outta the way I don't know.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:24 PM
I'm really interested in why Mullen isn't using emory jones in the young dak role this season. Mullen must see the running game as poor, and going with more of a 2015 offense
Maybe because Jones isn't any good
And before you talk about his recruiting ranking, 247 can't rank QBs at all
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:25 PM
Florida has -4 rushing. Yikes.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:25 PM
Nix is a meh QB. When he plays a defense with a pulse, he lacks a skill set to really impact the game.
He's true frosh dude ... Although Gus ain't the greatest QB developer.
Cooterpoot
10-05-2019, 03:25 PM
If we lose to everyone but AC, he deserves to be fired and it would be in play. Not likely to happen, but let’s face it, it’s possible. We are that bad.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:26 PM
Florida is self imploding
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:27 PM
100% chance that would be called back as in incomplete pass if it were us.
That's the exact play that happened to Leo last year at K-State & it was called a pass
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:27 PM
Lol @ Florida
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:27 PM
If we lose to everyone but AC, he deserves to be fired and it would be in play. Not likely to happen, but let’s face it, it’s possible. We are that bad.
You gonna write the check?
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:27 PM
Dang our ol did a better job protecting Shrader against auburn than all these 4-5 star uf guys are doing today
Todd4State
10-05-2019, 03:28 PM
Dang our ol did a better job protecting Shrader against auburn than all these 4-5 star uf guys are doing today
Thanks Hev.** But we so soft now. What's the common thread?**
And it would have been so poetic if Brown had just scored on Dan. A MSU legacy that he essentially didn't recruit because you know- it would take some effort.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:28 PM
You gonna write the check?
Again, we got money.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:29 PM
First Garyism of the day: "The ball left his hand before it came out of his hand." I guess there is a time warp in the Swamp.
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:29 PM
If we lose to everyone but AC, he deserves to be fired and it would be in play. Not likely to happen, but let’s face it, it’s possible. We are that bad.
Losing to a pitiful TN, awful Ark and a depleted om just off a bowl ban will get a bunch of alums and boosters highly motivated.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:29 PM
Dang our ol did a better job protecting Shrader against auburn than all these 4-5 star uf guys are doing today
But we didn't with Stevens.
You've got to have a dual threat QB unless you have ELITE OL talent. Dual threat changes what the defense can do.
It's completely clear
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:29 PM
Again, we got money.
I seriously doubt we can afford that. It ain't gonna happen anyway.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:30 PM
Florida sets the edge so well
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:31 PM
I seriously doubt we can afford that. It ain't gonna happen anyway.
Agree it won't happen, but we could afford it.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:31 PM
Maybe because Jones isn't any good
And before you talk about his recruiting ranking, 247 can't rank QBs at all
Last year's top 5 national leaders in passer ratings...
1. Tua
2. Murray
3. Grier
4. Haskins
5. Fromm
Look up their 247 ratings for us. Here comes the shotgun ignore feature or goal post movement
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:31 PM
Every dang thread turns into a pity fest here. Grow a pair.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:31 PM
Dang our ol did a better job protecting Shrader against auburn than all these 4-5 star uf guys are doing today
You think AU was really bringing it when up 42 - 9?
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:31 PM
But we didn't with Stevens.
You've got to have a dual threat QB unless you have ELITE OL talent. Dual threat changes what the defense can do.
It's completely clear
Duh I know that, I was just making a point that our ol is pretty good.
ETA uf HAS elite ol talent
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:31 PM
Nix is so meh. Not an NFL prospect & should've been rated about an 89-92
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:32 PM
You think AU was really bringing it when up 42 - 9?
Shrader came in halfway through the first quarter so yeah they were
BrunswickDawg
10-05-2019, 03:32 PM
This is just a defensive slobber knocker
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:32 PM
Both of these teams are trying to lose so far.
Cooterpoot
10-05-2019, 03:33 PM
I seriously doubt we can afford that. It ain't gonna happen anyway.
We’d have no trouble getting the buy out money. But Cohen would be on the hot seat after that.
chef dixon
10-05-2019, 03:33 PM
Our defense last year was better than both of these. We are gonna have bad years at MSU. This year will pay off in the future for us
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:33 PM
Shrader came in halfway through the first quarter so yeah they were
It was 21-0 before shrader entered
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:33 PM
Last year's top 5 national leaders in passer ratings...
1. Tua
2. Murray
3. Grier
4. Haskins
5. Fromm
Look up their 247 ratings for us. Here comes the shotgun ignore feature or goal post movement
Look up the teams those guys play for bud & the talent they have around them. It isn't rocket science
The only thing QBs should be rated on is their NFL prospect status. It's the only fair way to do it.
247 is awful at QB evaluation. it's proven by who the QBs are in the NFL.
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:34 PM
This is just a defensive slobber knocker
Makes me jealous.
Florida was a dumpster fire two years ago. They're light years ahead of us now.
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 03:34 PM
Can we never play Auburn in September again?
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:34 PM
This is just a defensive slobber knocker
Sort of, a lot of turnovers though.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:34 PM
It was 21-0 before shrader entered
So what ? You think auburn just quit playing in the first quarter because they were up 21-0? Did some of y'all ever even play? Geez
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:34 PM
Look up the teams those guys play for bud & the talent they have around them. It isn't rocket science
The only thing QBs should be rated on is their NFL prospect status. It's the only fair way to do it.
247 is awful at QB evaluation. it's proven by who the QBs are in the NFL.
Lol... 3 are in the nfl and the other 2 will be this year.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:34 PM
Shrader came in halfway through the first quarter so yeah they were
Don't know how ... They's Dan's and Hev's recruits. They couldn't block last year cause they had no talent. That's why our O sucked.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:35 PM
Makes me jealous.
Florida was a dumpster fire two years ago. They're light years ahead of us now.
All Florida ever needs is a coach. They have one now.
Todd4State
10-05-2019, 03:35 PM
Makes me jealous.
Florida was a dumpster fire two years ago. They're light years ahead of us now.
That's what happens when you lame duck your coach trying to get Chip Kelly.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:36 PM
It was 21-0 before shrader entered
You're impossible. I'm not responding to you anymore.
You just become a complete ass hole when people attempt to find a bright spot with MSU.
Auburn starters were in the game until late in the 3rd quarter. Who knows if they were bringing it.
I'm pretty sure they still running their game plan up 21-0 & Shrader led a TD drive immediately upon entering the game as he has done all 3 times he's relieved Stevens.
He's really good & we'll move the ball vs everyone we play
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:36 PM
We?d have no trouble getting the buy out money. But Cohen would be on the hot seat after that.
There's 2 gentleman here where I live that could write the checks themselves with plenty to spare if it came down to it. And I'm sure there's plenty more out there too. That being said I don't see it happening this year unless we just totally implode
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:36 PM
So what ? You think auburn just quit playing in the first quarter because they were up 21-0? Did some of y'all ever even play? Geez
I'll buy just a little * You may have a small point ***
Todd4State
10-05-2019, 03:37 PM
So what ? You think auburn just quit playing in the first quarter because they were up 21-0? Did some of y'all ever even play? Geez
Some fans must think that football teams go..."Oh it's 21-0 in the first quarter. Let's put the back-ups in and coast."
The efforts by our fans to bring down our program are really special.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:37 PM
Don't know how ... They's Dan's and Hev's recruits. They couldn't block last year cause they had no talent. That's why our O sucked.
Good one!
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:38 PM
You're impossible. I'm not responding to you anymore.
You just become a complete ass hole when people attempt to find a bright spot with MSU.
Auburn starters were in the game until late in the 3rd quarter. Who knows if they were bringing it.
I'm pretty sure they still running their game plan up 21-0 & Shrader led a TD drive immediately upon entering the game as he has done all 3 times he's relieved Stevens.
He's really good & we'll move the ball vs everyone we play
You just mad I called out your stupidly on QB rankings. Hey, fromm still suck?
Todd4State
10-05-2019, 03:38 PM
You're impossible. I'm not responding to you anymore.
You just become a complete ass hole when people attempt to find a bright spot with MSU.
Auburn starters were in the game until late in the 3rd quarter. Who knows if they were bringing it.
I'm pretty sure they still running their game plan up 21-0 & Shrader led a TD drive immediately upon entering the game as he has done all 3 times he's relieved Stevens.
He's really good & we'll move the ball vs everyone we play
But things would be so much better for us if we had a guy with a losing record at Wake Forest.**
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:39 PM
Some fans must think that football teams go..."Oh it's 21-0 in the first quarter. Let's put the back-ups in and coast."
The efforts by our fans to bring down our program are really special.
It's the only thing MSU fans have historically excelled at.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:39 PM
But things would be so much better for us if we had a guy with a losing record at Wake Forest.**
Or if we got rid of Mullen, right?
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:39 PM
Some fans must think that football teams go..."Oh it's 21-0 in the first quarter. Let's put the back-ups in and coast."
The efforts by our fans to bring down our program are really special.
Those fans are idiots & only say that stuff because they are attempting to perpetuate that MSU sucks. It's ridiculous, petty, & frankly trying too hard to be an ass hole
BankerDog
10-05-2019, 03:39 PM
Makes me jealous.
Florida was a dumpster fire two years ago. They're light years ahead of us now.
We would never stay above Florida too long. Too much of a brand, too many wealthy alum when compared to us. Let?s face it, we?ll never have Florida type speed either. Dan will have his teams consistently in the top 15 there. School sales itself in recruiting in top players.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:40 PM
Those fans are idiots & only say that stuff because they are attempting to perpetuate that MSU sucks. It's ridiculous, petty, & frankly trying too hard to be an ass hole
Yeah, we a total BA football team this year
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:40 PM
There's 2 gentleman here where I live that could write the checks themselves with plenty to spare if it came down to it. And I'm sure there's plenty more out there too. That being said I don't see it happening this year unless we just totally implode
Right, it's got be a total implosion (4-8) for Joe to get fired after year two. I seriously doubt that we finish less than 6-6 and probably more like 7-5.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:40 PM
You just mad I called out your stupidly on QB rankings. Hey, fromm still suck?
Fromm is very average & won't do much on Sundays.
Come back at me if he does
Thick
10-05-2019, 03:40 PM
You guys realize that AU?s DL all returned instead of going pro, plus their offensive line has over 140 plus starts. Their only issue is really just a FR QB. Just pointing that out to some of you.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:40 PM
Some fans must think that football teams go..."Oh it's 21-0 in the first quarter. Let's put the back-ups in and coast."
The efforts by our fans to bring down our program are really special.
Exactly! You can get beat if you start coasting especially in the sec.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:41 PM
I'll buy just a little * You may have a small point ***
Thanks lol
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:41 PM
Yeah, we a total BA football team this year
What are you trying to accomplish?
Just lay out what your goal is here?
chef dixon
10-05-2019, 03:42 PM
You guys realize that AU?s DL all returned instead of going pro, plus their offensive line has over 140 plus starts. Their only issue is really just a FR QB. Just pointing that out to some of you.
Yep comparing apples to oranges. Our D lined up for last year. Both these teams have tons of seniors in the trenches. Our D line will improve
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:42 PM
We would never stay above Florida too long. Too much of a brand, too many wealthy alum when compared to us. Let?s face it, we?ll never have Florida type speed either. Dan will have his teams consistently in the top 15 there. School sales itself in recruiting in top players.
And it baffles me that Tennessee hasn't found the right coach yet.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:42 PM
What are you trying to accomplish?
Just lay out what your goal is here?
Call out stupidity, which you do plenty of
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:42 PM
It's the only MSU fans have historically excelled at.
Unfortunately true but I'm aint wired that way.
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 03:43 PM
You just mad I called out your stupidly on QB rankings. Hey, fromm still suck?
If Garrett Shrader and Bo Nix has swapped schools going into the season we are 2-3 at best and Auburn is undefeated and rated higher after more dominating wins against Oregon and A&M with a comfortable lead in this game. Bo Nix’s inability is shining through right now. He’s not the runner Shrader is nor is he good enough to pass and beat good defenses yet.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:44 PM
Right, it's got be a total implosion (4-8) for Joe to get fired after year two. I seriously doubt that we finish less than 6-6 and probably more like 7-5.
I still have optimism that we finish 7-5. How we play next week will probably tell the tale.
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:44 PM
You guys realize that AU?s DL all returned instead of going pro, plus their offensive line has over 140 plus starts. Their only issue is really just a FR QB. Just pointing that out to some of you.
So, Gus loses a bunch of guys next year? That's right it's an even year.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:44 PM
Call out stupidity, which you do plenty of
Your the one who said Auburn wasn't bring it up 21-0 in the 1st quarter.
That was a pretty dumbass thing to say.
So, if you want to call out stupidity, I'm going full boar at your ass
That comment about Auburn was dumb as 17 & one a 3rd grader wouldn't have made
Fromm won't make in the NFL
Haskins already stinks
Tua will be decent
Murray will be above average
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:45 PM
Your the one who said Auburn wasn't bring it up 21-0 in the 1st quarter.
That was a pretty dumbass thing to say.
So, if you want to call out stupidity, I'm going full boar at your ass
That comment about Auburn was dumb as 17 & one a 3rd grader wouldn't have made
"You're"
Auburn only scored 24 on Tulane!!!!!
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:45 PM
Call out stupidity, which you do plenty of
Lol ... I've been trying to figure out why he hasn't significantly reduced his keystrokes to help with that "stupidity" thang *****
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:45 PM
If Garrett Shrader and Bo Nix has swapped schools going into the season we are 2-3 at best and Auburn is undefeated and rated higher after more dominating wins against Oregon and A&M with a comfortable lead in this game. Bo Nix?s inability is shining through right now. He?s not the runner Shrader is nor is he good enough to pass and beat good defenses yet.
Shrader is a dude. He just carries himself like a winner and can make plays. He still has some freshman screwups but man he's cool.
Offshore Dawg
10-05-2019, 03:45 PM
Those fans are idiots & only say that stuff because they are attempting to perpetuate that MSU sucks. It's ridiculous, petty, & frankly trying too hard to be an ass hole
Do you think you are helping by constantly putting down the coach. You post like Joe bent your girlfriend over the couch and made her enjoy it.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:46 PM
Do you think you are helping by constantly putting down the coach. You post like Joe bent your girlfriend over the couch and made her enjoy it.
I'm not the one putting down the coach dumb 17. I'm the positive one here.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:46 PM
Your the one who said Auburn wasn't bring it up 21-0 in the 1st quarter.
That was a pretty dumbass thing to say.
So, if you want to call out stupidity, I'm going full boar at your ass
That comment about Auburn was dumb as 17 & one a 3rd grader wouldn't have made
Fromm won't make in the NFL
Haskins already stinks
Tua will be decent
I'm betting Fromm makes it and Tua don't.
Skydawg1
10-05-2019, 03:46 PM
Great call Dan!
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:46 PM
Dan just can't help himself. Has he ever had a fake punt work?
RocketDawg
10-05-2019, 03:46 PM
Hmm ... a Mullen trick play that iddn't work.
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:47 PM
And Dan gets cute.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:47 PM
"You're"
Auburn only scored 24 on Tulane!!!!!
It' was a theory. Sorry I was trying to be optimistic about us having chance. I know that's not allowed in your world
BrunswickDawg
10-05-2019, 03:47 PM
Sort of, a lot of turnovers though.
That's usually one of the signs - lots of turnovers caused by defense
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:48 PM
It' was a theory. Sorry I was trying to be optimistic about us having chance. I know that's not allowed in your world
It was a stupid theory, and I called it out at the time. Realizing reality is a good thing
HoopsDawg
10-05-2019, 03:48 PM
Dan just can't help himself. Has he ever had a fake punt work?
Haha, no feel for the fake.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:48 PM
7 has no original ideas because he's stupid.
He only piggy backs off other's ideas & tells them where they are wrong, but yet offers no solutions
BankerDog
10-05-2019, 03:49 PM
And it baffles me that Tennessee hasn't found the right coach yet.
I think what you are starting to see is there are really only a handful of good coaches out there. We were lucky we had one of those in Mullen. I also believe that what is happening at Tennessee is the result of too many boosters getting involved in the personnel decisions. That whole Schiano deal was terrible.
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 03:49 PM
If you squint real hard 2019 looks like 2014. That call feels familiar against a top 10 auburn in your building, Dan Mullen.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:49 PM
Baylor 10-3 over k state
Ok st lost to Texas tech a week after they beat up on KSU
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:49 PM
It was a stupid theory, and I called it out at the time. Realizing reality is a good thing
Shocker.... you called out something that was a potential positive for MSU*
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:49 PM
Damn good throw Nix.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:49 PM
God, what an awful pass by an awful freshman QB
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:50 PM
Why dan why? Your defense shutting auburn down you got a lead and a fake punt on your side of the field? Why? Geez
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:50 PM
Y'all were saying about Nix? LOL.
BankerDog
10-05-2019, 03:50 PM
Dan just can't help himself. Has he ever had a fake punt work?
The one against Miami is pretty nice.
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 03:50 PM
Damn good throw Nix.
Best throw he’s made all year. Florida has to stop giving Auburn the ball in their territory.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:50 PM
Shrader is a dude. He just carries himself like a winner and can make plays. He still has some freshman screwups but man he's cool.
Sorta afraid to jinx him but ... I like him a lot. Tons of potential ... Still early tho.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:51 PM
God, what an awful pass by an awful freshman QB
Oh my, he must be a 1st round prospect now*
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:51 PM
Y'all were saying about Nix? LOL.
They'll ignore it. They'll never admit they were wrong even when nix is one of the best in the sec next season
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:51 PM
Sorta afraid to jinx him but ... I like him a lot. Tons of potential ... Still early tho.
No, it's not still early. He's really good & he's going to continue to be really good because he has a really good skill set
defiantdog
10-05-2019, 03:51 PM
Sorry Shotgun, but Bo Nix is gonna be a good one. I'm not sure why you hate the kid, but hes pretty poised for a true freshmen.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:51 PM
Baylor 10-3 over k state
Ok st lost to Texas tech a week after they beat up on KSU
Jeez, give it a rest. Either that or go join the cast of He Haw.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:52 PM
Sorry Shotgun, but Bo Nix is gonna be a good one. I'm not sure why you hate the kid, but hes pretty poised for a true freshmen.
He's only a 5-star bc his name is "Bo"
ETA... shotgun said tommy was more accurate than dak, so there's that
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:52 PM
Y'all were saying about Nix? LOL.
Nix could make 10 of those plays in a row & it wouldn't change the type of prospect he is.
Mond makes plays like that all the time & he may never play a down in the NFL
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:52 PM
Why dan why? Your defense shutting auburn down you got a lead and a fake punt on your side of the field? Why? Geez
You know Mullen is gonna Mullen at some point in a big game.
BankerDog
10-05-2019, 03:52 PM
They'll ignore it. They'll never admit they were wrong even when nix is one of the best in the sec next season
He is not one of the best right now. You have a love fest for that dude...maybe start posting on Auburn message boards? It would make our board better.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:53 PM
Sorta afraid to jinx him but ... I like him a lot. Tons of potential ... Still early tho.
I hear ya! He's got a bright future but you're right it's early, He has the tools and the attitude does he have the dedication and commitment to become one of the best? I bet he does
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:53 PM
Sorry Shotgun, but Bo Nix is gonna be a good one. I'm not sure why you hate the kid, but hes pretty poised for a true freshmen.
He'll be a good college QB because he surrounded by good talent, but he doesn't have an NFL skill set.
I couldn't care less what type of poise he has. That's not a physical skill & only makes a minor difference in his prospect status
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:54 PM
He's only a 5-star bc his name is "Bo"
ETA... shotgun said tommy was more accurate than dak, so there's that
He's only a 5 star because of his resume. Not because of his ability
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 03:55 PM
No, it's not still early. He's really good & he's going to continue to be really good because he has a really good skill set
It was very impressive the way he handled the atmosphere at auburn.
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 03:55 PM
Sorta afraid to jinx him but ... I like him a lot. Tons of potential ... Still early tho.
This season scares me for him. I don’t trust Moorhead with a “QB that knows his system.” It’s like the announcers in this game talking about Dan Mullen without a QB who can run.
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:55 PM
Well Dan's down another QB.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:55 PM
Nix could make 10 of those plays in a row & it wouldn't change the type of prospect he is.
Mond makes plays like that all the time & he may never play a down in the NFL
Shotgun, who cares about NFL prospects. There are very good college players who aren't.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:55 PM
It was very impressive the way he handled the atmosphere at auburn.
He just has to tighten up the spiral on his passes, & he'll be good to go.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 03:55 PM
Well Dan's down another QB.
Yikes
Dawgology
10-05-2019, 03:57 PM
So Dan gets upset about that but not Fitz laying there with a broken ankle. What a ****ing dick face.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 03:57 PM
Nix could make 10 of those plays in a row & it wouldn't change the type of prospect he is.
Mond makes plays like that all the time & he may never play a down in the NFL
So does Tua with plenty of time almost every week and the best group of WRs in the country. Never has to go past his second read. Has a weak arm and when hit is slightly more tough than Tommy.
And you're sure he's going to make it in NFL?
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:57 PM
Well Dan's down another QB.
That situation is getting serious for him. They are pretty dang good but it ain't easy to go at a high level with a third teamer having to play at any position, much less at QB.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 03:58 PM
So Dan gets upset about that but not Fitz laying there with a broken ankle. What a ****ing dick face.
That's just not true. I was at the game and Mullen was livid. He was as mad as I had ever seen him.
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 03:58 PM
The best skill about this auburn team is luck.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 03:59 PM
Shotgun, who cares about NFL prospects. There are very good college players who aren't.
That's a fair opinion, but when ranking QBs in recruiting, I think NFL prospect status should be all that matters. Or else you should just rank all the blue blood QBs 5 stars because that's the type of college career they'll have due to the talent around them.
Not saying your wrong, I just don't see how you value a guy as a college QB instead of looking at his future prospect status.
My feeling is that recruiting stars should be given based on how you project to the NFL rather than college. It's the only way there is accountability as to whether they are right or not.
Every other sport: baseball & basketball give stars based on pro prospect status. Not sure why football shouldn't be the same
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 03:59 PM
So Dan gets upset about that but not Fitz laying there with a broken ankle. What a ****ing dick face.
His bags were packed and he was out the door. He gave zero shits about that game or the team.
HoopsDawg
10-05-2019, 03:59 PM
Dan can go thru some QBs.
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 03:59 PM
So Dan gets upset about that but not Fitz laying there with a broken ankle. What a ****ing dick face.
Mullen definitely threw one of his patented bitch fits. Worse than what they showed here. Might have been one of his top 3 while at MSU.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 04:00 PM
He just has to tighten up the spiral on his passes, & he'll be good to go.
Yep. The kid has some great skills and apparently has the intangibles as well. I know he has the support of the locker room which is always a great sign.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:00 PM
That situation is getting serious for him. They are pretty dang good but it ain't easy to go at a high level with a third teamer having to play at any position, much less at QB.
Then again, this guy look dang good so far.
RocketDawg
10-05-2019, 04:00 PM
Jones looks pretty good.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:00 PM
So does Tua with plenty of time almost every week and the best group of WRs in the country. Never has to go past his second read. Has a weak arm and when hit is slightly more tough than Tommy.
And you're sure he's going to make it in NFL?
I think Tua will be average in the NFL but be a starter.
I don't love his arm strength, frame, or durability, but he has elite accuracy to help with the arm strength issue & he has great pocket presence.
He'll be solid, but will be somewhat limited.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 04:00 PM
That's a fair opinion, but when ranking QBs in recruiting, I think NFL prospect status should be all that matters.
Dude ... you can't tell a QB is an NFL prospect coming out of HS. Now about that stupidity thingy *****
IMissJack
10-05-2019, 04:01 PM
He ain't getting fired this year. We would owe him 9 million from what I understand.
Then we are worse at getting coaches than I thought.
Offshore Dawg
10-05-2019, 04:01 PM
I'm not the one putting down the coach dumb 17. I'm the positive one here.
So, your signature isn't putting the coach down, You do have reading comprehension problems from time to time "dumb 17".
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:02 PM
His bags were packed and he was out the door. He gave zero shits about that game or the team.
Again, that was a bald faced lie. Mullen was furious. I was there and saw it.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:02 PM
Dude ... you can't tell a QB is an NFL prospect coming out of HS. Now about that stupidity thingy *****
I disagree. It's hard no doubt, but there are ingredients to allude to future ability.
RocketDawg
10-05-2019, 04:02 PM
So Dan gets upset about that but not Fitz laying there with a broken ankle. What a ****ing dick face.
Dan wasn't working for MSU at that point. **
The guy who made that tackler go in low was holding. Should've been a penalty.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:03 PM
Then we are worse at getting coaches than I thought.
It ain't easy to hire someone at MSU. It sucks but it is what it is. Our fans make it even harder than it has to be.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:03 PM
So, your signature isn't putting the coach down, You do have reading comprehension problems from time to time "dumb 17".
Oh sorry. That stays up until we look competent on the road.
I forgot about my signature. Sorry for calling you a dumb17 when you had a good point
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:04 PM
Dan wasn't working for MSU at that point. **
The guy who made that tackler go in low was holding. Should've been a penalty.
ONE MORE TIME, Mullen threw a fit about what happened to Fitz.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 04:04 PM
I disagree. It's hard no doubt, but there are ingredients to allude to future ability.
Wow. Nfl GMs can't even pick college QBs right, but you can judge HS QBs correctly. You truly are the greatest
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 04:05 PM
Again, that was a bald faced lie. Mullen was furious. I was there and saw it.
From my living room that night he showed zero emotion. And was out there yucking it up with Coach Meatloaf while they carted his QB off the field.
Did he get livid when they tried to do the same thing to KT a few plays later?
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 04:05 PM
Dan wasn't working for MSU at that point. **
The guy who made that tackler go in low was holding. Should've been a penalty.
Glad someone else saw it. The ol tackles the guy into the qb
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 04:05 PM
Wow. Nfl GMs can't even pick college QBs right, but you can judge HS QBs correctly. You truly are the greatest
Ain't he tho.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:05 PM
You truly are the greatest
Thank you
Offshore Dawg
10-05-2019, 04:06 PM
Oh sorry. That stays up until we look competent on the road.
I forgot about my signature. Sorry for calling you a dumb17 when you had a good point
Apology accepted !!
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 04:06 PM
From my living room that night he showed zero emotion. And was out there yucking it up with Coach Meatloaf while they carted his QB off the field.
Did he get livid when they tried to do the same thing to KT a few plays later?
I Like the coach meatloaf moniker!
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:06 PM
Wow. Nfl GMs can't even pick college QBs right, but you can judge HS QBs correctly. You truly are the greatest
So what do you think QBs rankings should be based on?
msstate7
10-05-2019, 04:06 PM
Thank you
Nice haha
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:06 PM
From my living room that night he showed zero emotion. And was out there yucking it up with Coach Meatloaf while they carted his QB off the field.
Did he get livid when they tried to do the same thing to KT a few plays later?
He threw a damn fit. I was THERE and saw it. You weren't but know more I guess. Our fans..........
msstate7
10-05-2019, 04:07 PM
So what do you think QBs rankings should be based on?
How they'll perform in college
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 04:07 PM
From my living room that night he showed zero emotion. And was out there yucking it up with Coach Meatloaf while they carted his QB off the field.
Did he get livid when they tried to do the same thing to KT a few plays later?
“From my living room”
Enough said. If you don’t see it on TV then it didn’t happen. As another person who was there mullen was one of the angriest.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:07 PM
So what do you think QBs rankings should be based on?
Wins
RocketDawg
10-05-2019, 04:07 PM
Trask is back.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:08 PM
How they'll perform in college
Then just rank the blue blood commits all 5 stars. Rank the Oklahoma commit a 5 star #1 QB every year regardless of his skill set
See the issue there?
That's why I think the only way to do it & to attempt to guess the NFL draft order of QBs. It's hard no doubt
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:09 PM
Glad someone else saw it. The ol tackles the guy into the qb
Yeah, that one should have been a holding call on Florida.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:09 PM
Wins
Woof. So, AJ McCarron & McElroy should've been 5*s when both were marginal talents?
IMissJack
10-05-2019, 04:11 PM
It ain't easy to hire someone at MSU. It sucks but it is what it is. Our fans make it even harder than it has to be.
Our disgruntled fans are baby stuff compared to some schools.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 04:11 PM
Yeah, that one should have been a holding call on Florida.
Yeah it was pretty blatant too
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 04:12 PM
He threw a damn fit. I was THERE and saw it. You weren't but know more I guess. Our fans..........
Liver...
He's throwing a fit. Then within the span of five minutes, if that, he's laughing with Coach Kool-Aid Man like they're just talking about the weather. And Nick's career is, at that point, all but over. They would have had to restrain me from getting in Coach Fat Ass's face calling him a dirty m'fer.
But, I guess that was the perfect time to break the news to Luke. I'm sure Dan started whistling Rocky Top around him waiting for him to ask why.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:12 PM
Woof. So, AJ McCarron & McElroy should've been 5*s when both were marginal talents?
I told you, I don't care about the NFL, at all. I judge college quarterbacks on wins. It's kind of like US Grant as a general. He wasn't as skilled as Lee in tactics in war, but he knew what he had to do to win, and did it. When he moved up to the next level, he didn't fare so well. But in the Civil War, he was a winner.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 04:12 PM
Then just rank the blue blood commits all 5 stars. Rank the Oklahoma commit a 5 star #1 QB every year regardless of his skill set
See the issue there?
That's why I think the only way to do it & to attempt to guess the NFL draft order of QBs. It's hard no doubt
As Mullen said on Gameday today. The most important ingredient in a good QB is how fast they process information between the ears. And that's impossible to judge in HS. And it has to be processed faster in pros than college. And then they also have to be able to handle the pressure too
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 04:14 PM
“From my living room”
Enough said. If you don’t see it on TV then it didn’t happen. As another person who was there mullen was one of the angriest.
Anger that evaporated like water.
Folks that was show.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:14 PM
Liver...
He's throwing a fit. Then within the span of five minutes, if that, he's laughing with Coach Kool-Aid Man like they're just talking about the weather. And Nick's career is, at that point, all but over. They would have had to restrain me from getting in Coach Fat Ass's face calling him a dirty m'fer.
But, I guess that was the perfect time to break the news to Luke. I'm sure Dan started whistling Rocky Top around him waiting for him to ask why.
You weren't there by your own admission so you by definition have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, but you are doubling down anyway. If you aren't already in politics you should consider it. You would go far.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:15 PM
I told you, I don't care about the NFL, at all. I judge college quarterbacks on wins. It's kind of like US Grant as a general. He wasn't as skilled as Lee in tactics in war, but he knew what he had to do to win, and did it. When he moved up to the next level, he didn't fare so well. But in the Civil War, he was a winner.
That's fine but I just don't think that gets us closer to the answer of finding out who the best QBs are.
I also don't care that you don't care about the NFL. Fact is, the NFL is a fairly objective measure upon which we can compare recruiting rankings to.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 04:15 PM
Liver...
He's throwing a fit. Then within the span of five minutes, if that, he's laughing with Coach Kool-Aid Man like they're just talking about the weather. And Nick's career is, at that point, all but over. They would have had to restrain me from getting in Coach Fat Ass's face calling him a dirty m'fer.
But, I guess that was the perfect time to break the news to Luke. I'm sure Dan started whistling Rocky Top around him waiting for him to ask why.
Coach kool aid man! Awesome!
Luke has always reminded me of private pyle from full metal jacket(Dennis D'Onfrio)
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:15 PM
As Mullen said on Gameday today. The most important ingredient in a good QB is how fast they process information between the ears. And that's impossible to judge in HS. And it has to be processed faster in pros than college. And then they also have to be able to handle the pressure too
Agree. It's terribly hard & #1 reason why all those Elite 11 camps are complete BS that don't actually help anyone rank the QBs
Again, every other sports recruits get ranked based on their pro prospect status.
PG rankings & Basketball stars are awarded based on the rankers guessing their prospect status. Why is football different? Just because it's hard?
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:15 PM
As Mullen said on Gameday today. The most important ingredient in a good QB is how fast they process information between the ears. And that's impossible to judge in HS. And it has to be processed faster in pros than college. And then they also have to be able to handle the pressure too
Absolutely correct.
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 04:16 PM
You weren't there by your own admission so you by definition have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, but you are doubling down anyway. If you aren't already in politics you should consider it. You would go far.
Okay, Eyewitness News you win.**
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:16 PM
That's fine but I just don't think that gets us closer to the answer of finding out who the best QBs are.
I also don't care that you don't care about the NFL. Fact is, the NFL is a fairly objective measure upon which we can compare recruiting rankings to.
And it's all about wins there too.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:17 PM
And it's all about wins there too.
Tell that to Tim Tebow & Trent Dilfer
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 04:17 PM
Anger that evaporated like water.
Folks that was show.
Doesn’t help a coach to wallow in anger. He didn’t have the high definition view to confirm it was dirty so he did like a good coach. Showed his emotion to voice his displeasure and try to rally the troops. Then refocused and went back to playcalling a trash game for 3 Qs.
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:18 PM
Okay, Eyewitness News you win.**
Better than basing your opinion on what ESPN wanted you to see, especially when Ole Miss is involved. Do your homework.
CovertDawg
10-05-2019, 04:18 PM
Watching the QBs in this game have to actually go up against good defenses, not sure I would trade Shrader for any of them.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 04:18 PM
Run the clock out
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:18 PM
Tell that to Tim Tebow & Trent Dilfer
It still was.
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 04:18 PM
Ranking QBs by wins is like ranking pitchers by wins. It’s archaic.
TrapGame
10-05-2019, 04:19 PM
Doesn’t help a coach to wallow in anger. He didn’t have the high definition view to confirm it was dirty so he did like a good coach. Showed his emotion to voice his displeasure and try to rally the troops. Then refocused and went back to playcalling a trash game for 3 Qs.
Bravo.
This is the explanation I can agree with. Thank you.
dawgday166
10-05-2019, 04:21 PM
Agree. It's terribly hard & #1 reason why all those Elite 11 camps are complete BS that don't actually help anyone rank the QBs
Again, every other sports recruits get ranked based on their pro prospect status.
PG rankings & Basketball stars are awarded based on the rankers guessing their prospect status. Why is football different? Just because it's hard?
Naww ... Cause QBs getting the shit knocked out of them. And cause of complexity of offense too. QB is toughest position to play in sports.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 04:22 PM
Watching the QBs in this game have to actually go up against good defenses, not sure I would trade Shrader for any of them.
Ain't it the truth? Shrader just seem to have "it"
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:22 PM
Ranking QBs by wins is like ranking pitchers by wins. It’s archaic.
Agree.
I don't think anyone's opinion on how we should value QBs is dumb. It just seems to me that, if we were truly trying to be right about this, we would rank them based on what type of NFL player they project to be.
In the league where rosters are close to even, how good will they be?
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 04:23 PM
Dan just said it was a dirty play. Watch the video dan it was caused by your ol!
Now the unm hit on Nick was dirty but not this one by Auburn
RougeDawg
10-05-2019, 04:24 PM
Dans comment at half sums him up as a person. His OLineman is holding the DL, shoving him into the QB and Dan asks the league to protect QBs from dirty plays. Slime ball.
Dawgology
10-05-2019, 04:24 PM
ONE MORE TIME, Mullen threw a fit about what happened to Fitz.
When in the locker room? I was there and he looked pissed walked onto the field, looked at Fitz and walked off. Did something happen in the locker room?
msstate7
10-05-2019, 04:24 PM
Agree.
I don't think anyone's opinion on how we should value QBs is dumb. It just seems to me that, if we were truly trying to be right about this, we would rank them based on what type of NFL player they project to be.
In the league where rosters are close to even, how good will they be?
So tommie Frazier was a bad QB? What about Tebow or Vince young?
CovertDawg
10-05-2019, 04:24 PM
Such a pathetic comment by Mullen...why can a coach call a play dirty that was not dirty and get away with it? How is that not defamation of the Auburn lineman. Pathetic.
dantheman4248
10-05-2019, 04:25 PM
Bravo.
This is the explanation I can agree with. Thank you.
Just see how quickly he calmed down and went back to playcalling in this for an example. He’s still pissed on the inside but it does no good beyond the initial outburst.
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:25 PM
Watching the QBs in this game have to actually go up against good defenses, not sure I would trade Shrader for any of them.
Bo Nix is more polished than Shrader, but Shrader's skill set is better. I think Nix currently throws a little better, but Shrader's size & athleticism gives him a pretty big leg up in the running.
I also like the way Shrader naturally moves in the pocket better than Nix. The only think IMO that Nix currently does better is that I think he spins it a little better with a quicker release.
They should've been rated close to the same. Shrader was a 91 rated QB & Nix should've been a 90-92 type
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:25 PM
Our disgruntled fans are baby stuff compared to some schools.
Yeah, but a lot of schools aren't in the middle of rural Mississippi.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 04:27 PM
Dan calls out auburn but never said a word about unm being dirty? Wow
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:28 PM
So tommie Frazier was a bad QB? What about Tebow or Vince young?
I think there are a few exceptions & those exceptions are when guys are complete freaks in other facets of the game, but simply don't possess NFL throwing ability.
Tebow & Young were freaks of nature athletically & size wise. Bo Nix is not.
Cam Newton would've also fit in this category. I would've ranked him a 5 star even if he wasn't as good of a passer as he turned out to be. He was a freak
msstate7
10-05-2019, 04:29 PM
I think there are a few exceptions & those exceptions are when guys are complete freaks in other facets of the game, but simply don't possess NFL throwing ability.
Tebow & Young were freaks of nature athletically & size wise. Bo Nix is not.
So nix is a bust bc he isn't tebow or young?
Liverpooldawg
10-05-2019, 04:30 PM
When in the locker room? I was there and he looked pissed walked onto the field, looked at Fitz and walked off. Did something happen in the locker room?
What exactly is he supposed to do? He threw a fit when it happened and then he moved on. If you don't do that you aren't a very good coach.
Todd4State
10-05-2019, 04:31 PM
Dan calls out auburn but never said a word about unm being dirty? Wow
Yep. If I was our coach during the 2017 Egg Bowl the "toxic rivalry" meeting that Cohen and Bjork or whoever their AD was would have happened a year early after the all out brawl including beating Luke and the football officials to a pulp.
I also would have been fired for leading a brawl but I would have gone out with "I regret nothing and hell yes I would have done it again. The good news is we really can't tell if Luke's face is swollen or not."
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:31 PM
So nix is a bust bc he isn't tebow or young?
I never called Nix a bust at all. He should've been ranked a 90-92 type player as I've said the entire time. He just isn't the 5 star he was billed to be. His physical skill objectively makes him fall short of that
Todd4State
10-05-2019, 04:33 PM
What exactly is he supposed to do? He threw a fit when it happened and then he moved on. If you don't do that you aren't a very good coach.
Protect your damn player is what he was supposed to do. You cuss out the ever living hell out of the official and then you tell your defense to go after their QB.
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 04:33 PM
Yep. If I was our coach during the 2017 Egg Bowl the "toxic rivalry" meeting that Cohen and Bjork or whoever their AD was would have happened a year early after the all out brawl including beating Luke and the football officials to a pulp.
I also would have been fired for leading a brawl but I would have gone out with "I regret nothing and hell yes I would have done it again. The good news is we really can't tell if Luke's face is swollen or not."
Yep!
ShotgunDawg
10-05-2019, 04:33 PM
Dan calls out auburn but never said a word about unm being dirty? Wow
Pretty clear that Dan is emotionally invested at Florida.
At MSU he was emotionally invested into his own success but not in MSU's success. At Florida, he's all in on both ends.
msstate7
10-05-2019, 04:34 PM
I never called Nix a bust at all. He should've been ranked a 90-92 type player as I've said the entire time. He just isn't the 5 star he was billed to be. His physical skill objectively makes him fall short of that
Then I've read you wrong, my apologies... I've had a problem with your nix stance bc it sure seems like you're calling him a bust as a true freshman
Commercecomet24
10-05-2019, 04:36 PM
Pretty clear that Dan is emotionally invested at Florida.
At MSU he was emotionally invested into his own success but not in MSU's success. At Florida, he's all in on both ends.
Yep that statement at the half was pretty telling. He said absolutely nothing about nicks ankle being destroyed or unm being dirty but he goes off on auburn when the auburn hit was caused by his own player? Never wanted to believe dan was like that but it's very clear he was checked out about halfway through 2017. Dang shame
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