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Dawgology
09-28-2019, 07:51 PM
I just see nothing from a coaching standpoint that makes me think Joe is the answer. It’s pitiful. Unprepared. No discipline. Little effort. Mentally unprepared. That is ALL on coaching.

vv83
09-28-2019, 07:51 PM
He hit him with his face mask not the crown of his helmet. A late hit is NOT targeting and not reviewable. Bullshit call.

I don’t know what to tell you if you aren’t gonna take your maroon glasses off. It was textbook targeting

PMDawg
09-28-2019, 07:51 PM
Stupid post. Lose your head coach and offensive play caller?? Freaking dumb

Why? It's not like it matters. This game was over 6 minutes in.

maroonmania
09-28-2019, 07:51 PM
That was a terrible targeting call. It was probably a late hit but the targeting call is trash

Apparently if you come in with the helmet anywhere in the body they can call targeting. Guess its not just limited to the head and shoulder area.

BankerDog
09-28-2019, 07:51 PM
Thompson should know better. No need in arguing it. The ball had already bounced on the ground when he hit him.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 07:51 PM
178109237580435458

defiantdog
09-28-2019, 07:51 PM
Stupid post. Lose your head coach and offensive play caller?? Freaking dumb

You can't argue with this guy

msstate7
09-28-2019, 07:52 PM
Can't believe bo completed that pass past 7 yards?

defiantdog
09-28-2019, 07:52 PM
Nix can't throw deep huh?

Cooterpoot
09-28-2019, 07:52 PM
That was a terrible targeting call. It was probably a late hit but the targeting call is trash

It?s an automatic ejection if you lead with the helmet. He led with it.

RocketDawg
09-28-2019, 07:52 PM
They never started the clock on that last play, then just ran off 2 seconds.

deadheaddawg
09-28-2019, 07:52 PM
Joe is nutless. I would've made sure I got ejected too. These refs are shit.

ETA - it's no wonder our team is so soft.


Why? It's not like it matters. This game was over 6 minutes in.

lol

PMDawg
09-28-2019, 07:52 PM
Thank God Joe is still on the sidelines tonight! Whew! This could get ugly without him!

PMDawg
09-28-2019, 07:53 PM
lol

Lol

deadheaddawg
09-28-2019, 07:53 PM
Joe is nutless. I would've made sure I got ejected too. These refs are shit.

ETA - it's no wonder our team is so soft.


Why? It's not like it matters. This game was over 6 minutes in.


Thank God Joe is still on the sidelines tonight! Whew! This could get ugly without him!

lol

Mobile Bay
09-28-2019, 07:53 PM
Morehead was an absolute shit hire and one of multiple reasons Cohen should be fired with him.

maroonmania
09-28-2019, 07:53 PM
Well stupidity leads to another Auburn TD.

vindastra
09-28-2019, 07:54 PM
I just see nothing from a coaching standpoint that makes me think Joe is the answer. It’s pitiful. Unprepared. No discipline. Little effort. Mentally unprepared. That is ALL on coaching.

Joe probably is not the answer.

One thing though, Joe with his player is able to electrify this offense. Shoop with his players (last year) can execute.

If we are not gonna get rid of them, they better recruit better.

Dawgology
09-28-2019, 07:54 PM
Why? It's not like it matters. This game was over 6 minutes in.

This game was over before the first snap. Joe and this team didn’t even try. Cohen, his administration, and fans should be ashamed of this. I know I am. If this is what you want representing your university then I feel sorry for you.

Pollodawg
09-28-2019, 07:54 PM
Oh, 17 you, Gus Malzahn and Alabama?s little brother.

KOdawg1
09-28-2019, 07:54 PM
Hey, remember when we beat #2 Auburn to be the #1 team in the country? Those were good times

defiantdog
09-28-2019, 07:54 PM
Embarrassing

msstate7
09-28-2019, 07:54 PM
Bo nix...
10/14 189 yds 1 td 0 int
6 rushes 49 yds 1 td

He's so awful

dawgday166
09-28-2019, 07:54 PM
Just a mentally weak team

Naww man ... They street fighters.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 07:54 PM
I just can't believe what I'm seeing.

This isn't Mississippi State football.

I've never been this embarrassed since the Croom era.

I just can't take this

parabrave
09-28-2019, 07:54 PM
Well we can't make fun of Arky or OM anymore.

bluelightstar
09-28-2019, 07:54 PM
Moorhead should be fired. We are heading to the dumpster if we keep him

Matt3467
09-28-2019, 07:55 PM
Yes that was a dumb play and constituted targeting but the issue I have with it is the penalty being called way after the play and possibly only due to crowd reaction to the replay. There should be a time limit to when flags can be thrown after a play ends.

Dawgology
09-28-2019, 07:55 PM
Morehead was an absolute shit hire and one of multiple reasons Cohen should be fired with him.


Agreed. Someone needs to answer for the hire. It was not a good or smart hire.

Pollodawg
09-28-2019, 07:55 PM
Gus is pissed of because we hurt his feelings last season.

maroonmania
09-28-2019, 07:55 PM
I'm more embarrassed by our undisciplined behavior on the field than I am by our poor execution.

Bdawg
09-28-2019, 07:55 PM
Can't believe bo completed that pass past 7 yards?

Do you enjoy being a ****head to everyone on here? So glad I don't live with your mentality because it has to suck to be you.

timotheus
09-28-2019, 07:55 PM
ole slo mo gonna screw the whole program good by the end of 2020 when he is let go. he is so far in over his head he just needs to tilt his visor to the side in memory of croom. this is garbage

PMDawg
09-28-2019, 07:55 PM
lol

Lol

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 07:55 PM
Bo nix...
10/14 189 yds 1 td 0 int
6 rushes 49 yds 1 td

He's so awful

Look man, Believe what you want. Keep being an ass hole.

He's not an NFL prospect & would expect a 5 star to be an NFL prospect.

I couldn't care less what his stats are, but since you have no clue what you're actually looking at, you can't argue that

maroonmania
09-28-2019, 07:56 PM
Gus is pissed of because we hurt his feelings last season.

We've done more to help him get revenge on us than he or his team has.

dawgday166
09-28-2019, 07:56 PM
Bo nix...
10/14 189 yds 1 td 0 int
6 rushes 49 yds 1 td

He's so awful

He sucks. Tommy lighting them up tho. Glad we got him. Needed him last year cause Fitz sucked too.

Cooterpoot
09-28-2019, 07:56 PM
The only thing that will save Moorhead is the suspensions and probation. We aren?t winning 6 games.

Coursesuper
09-28-2019, 07:56 PM
It?s an automatic ejection if you lead with the helmet. He led with it.

There were 7 officials on the field looking at that play, two of the were within 10 yards of the play and there was no call on the field. There is absolutely no reason for the booth to be involved at all, it’s not the way it was intended to be used at all. It’s selective officiating used at the behest of the big boys in our league and it happens all the time.

KOdawg1
09-28-2019, 07:56 PM
Bo nix...
10/14 189 yds 1 td 0 int
6 rushes 49 yds 1 td

He's so awful

Please shut tf up. Only a few people were saying that, and they've eaten at this point. You've made your point.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 07:56 PM
Moorhead should be fired. We are heading to the dumpster if we keep him

This is what he gets for not playing his best players tonight.

You lose teams when you don't believe in them.

Coach007
09-28-2019, 07:56 PM
I just can't believe what I'm seeing.

This isn't Mississippi State football.

I've never been this embarrassed since the Croom era.

I just can't take this

Until the defense is replenished, get use to it.

parabrave
09-28-2019, 07:56 PM
Well since we are close to Gainesville lets go get Greg Knox

msstate7
09-28-2019, 07:56 PM
Do you enjoy being a ****head to everyone on here? So glad I don't live with your mentality because it has to suck to be you.

You mad

Dawgology
09-28-2019, 07:57 PM
Well we can't make fun of Arky or OM anymore.


The sad part is we were set up to finally take the next step and John Cohen decided he would outsmart everyone, save some money, and sacrifice our football program. It an absolute train wreck

Pollodawg
09-28-2019, 07:57 PM
I’m gonna go watch a replay of the 17 LSU game, so I can remember what it’s like to have an SEC quality football program.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 07:57 PM
Please shut tf up. Only a few people were saying that, and they've eaten at this point. You've made your point.

No, I ain't eating anything. He's not a great prospect. He just isn't & that'll be proven out over time

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 07:57 PM
One of the worst halves of football by a MSU defense ever. None of them should be allowed to play a snap in the second half. Just run with all the backups including whoever is the backup play caller. Go get on the bus Shoop and wait there for the game to be over.

Coach007
09-28-2019, 07:57 PM
This is what he gets for not playing his best players tonight.

You lose teams when you don't believe in them.

Yeah, I understand the thought, I disagree with it.

Maroonthirteen
09-28-2019, 07:57 PM
This game was over before the first snap. Joe and this team didn’t even try. Cohen, his administration, and fans should be ashamed of this. I know I am. If this is what you want representing your university then I feel sorry for you.

Meh..... this has been happening for decades. Fire him if you want. The next coach will
Get his ass whipped by Auburn too. Jackie in 93 or so. 2003. On and on and on

Cooterpoot
09-28-2019, 07:57 PM
There were 7 officials on the field looking at that play, two of the were within 10 yards of the play and there was no call on the field. There is absolutely no reason for the booth to be involved at all, it’s not the way it was intended to be used at all. It’s selective officiating used at the behest of the big boys in our league and it happens all the time.

It’s a player safety issue. Not just the player being hit, but the one hitting with his helmet.

Thick
09-28-2019, 07:57 PM
We will be lucky to win 6, and the Egg bowl could be ugly for us. This defense is chock full of pussies and undisciplined terrible tacklers with no nuts whatsoever.

msstate7
09-28-2019, 07:58 PM
This is what he gets for not playing his best players tonight.

You lose teams when you don't believe in them.

Gay and Autry are definitely worth 34 points in the 1st half

PMDawg
09-28-2019, 07:58 PM
Until the defense is replenished, get use to it.

No, until Moorhead is gone, get used to it.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 07:58 PM
Until the defense is replenished, get use to it.

It shouldn't be this bad 007

We've got players. There are a lot of 4 stars on that defense that aren't playing like it.

Matt3467
09-28-2019, 07:58 PM
So does Thompson miss some of the next game?

Pollodawg
09-28-2019, 07:58 PM
You mad

He’s not mad. You’re just being a doucbe. You made your point.......douche.

KOdawg1
09-28-2019, 07:58 PM
This is what he gets for not playing his best players tonight.

You lose teams when you don't believe in them.

You and 7 both need to stop posting for the night. It's not about not believing in them. You'd throw a bitch fit if Tennessee, or God forbid Ole Miss, were to beat us because we didn't play them. You have a right to be frustrated, but not about this. You're just being ignorant

R2Dawg
09-28-2019, 07:59 PM
It's not targeting. So no

Late hit, probably. Targeting no, but Aub refs step in for some heapin.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 07:59 PM
Gay and Autry are definitely worth 34 points in the 1st half

Your obviously not understanding my point.

When you punt the game on Monday, the players don't give the same effort in preparation, with details, & with belief.

This game was lost on Monday when the decision was made, not tonight.

msstate7
09-28-2019, 07:59 PM
No, I ain't eating anything. He's not a great prospect. He just isn't & that'll be proven out over time

Digging in, eh? Well, you do come up with some genius takes like auburn only scoring 24 on Tulane. You called it.

KOdawg1
09-28-2019, 07:59 PM
He’s not mad. You’re just being a doucbe. You made your point.......douche.

He's trying his best to be C34's little puppet

Coach007
09-28-2019, 07:59 PM
No, until Moorhead is gone, get used to it.

Not at all.


But by all means, turn us into UT or Ark

Dawgology
09-28-2019, 07:59 PM
No, until Moorhead is gone, get used to it.

Yep. We will continue to march unprepared teams on to the field until he is gone. And Cohen will give him another season or two to do it sadly enough.

Mobile Bay
09-28-2019, 07:59 PM
I miss Sylvester Croom. At least we lost with dignity back then.

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:00 PM
Your obviously not understanding my point.

When you punt the game on Monday, the players don't give the same effort in preparation, with details, & with belief.

This game was lost on Monday when the decision was made, not tonight.
The game was lost the minute they scheduled it. Auburn is much, much better than us.

BayouDawg
09-28-2019, 08:00 PM
Can't believe bo completed that pass past 7 yards?

This game is already sucky enough without you and your boyfriend flirting with each other

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 08:00 PM
There were 7 officials on the field looking at that play, two of the were within 10 yards of the play and there was no call on the field. There is absolutely no reason for the booth to be involved at all, it’s not the way it was intended to be used at all. It’s selective officiating used at the behest of the big boys in our league and it happens all the time.

You're wrong dude. The new rule put in place is that they can go to review specifically for missed targeting calls. Thompson led with the crown of his helmet into the defenseless receiver's chest. That is by definition textbook targeting because it was textbook targeting. Stop arguing an apple is an orange when it is in fact an apple.

Thick
09-28-2019, 08:01 PM
It shouldn't be this bad 007

We've got players. There are a lot of 4 stars on that defense that aren't playing like it.

Stars don’t mean jackshit if they are undisciplined, no self respect, no heart, and absolutely the worst tackling I’ve seen in some time at MSU.

parabrave
09-28-2019, 08:01 PM
Well Joe just went through the litany of Mistakes made except the main one, I just didn't have this team prepared to play.

Matt3467
09-28-2019, 08:01 PM
I miss Sylvester Croom. At least we lost with dignity back then.

Nah I remember all too well Cadillac and Ronnie Williams running all down our throats and our anemic offense not scoring a single TD.

msudawg1200
09-28-2019, 08:01 PM
I’m officially on the “Joe Must Go” train. This is a trend with him. He has no control and isn’t near about as smart as he thinks he is. The longer he stays the deeper our hole gets. Who can we hire? Good question, but it couldn’t be worse than this clown show. Shoop can get the hell out also.

Irondawg
09-28-2019, 08:01 PM
Y?all do realize the offense looks just fine. Our defense is getting abused and I?m pretty sure joe basically just hands that over to Shoop just like Mullen did.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:01 PM
The game was lost the minute they scheduled it. Auburn is much, much better than us.

I disagree with this but obviously don't have any evidence to support my point.

Auburn is better, but not much much better when we are at full strength.

Dawgology
09-28-2019, 08:01 PM
Not at all.


But by all means, turn us into UT or Ark


Um...we are already a breath away from them. By the end of the season we will be. Here’s a hint: those programs you are scared of us becoming got that way because of bad coaching hires. We made a bad coaching hire. We can fix it or continue that trajectory and become what you are afraid of becoming.

KOdawg1
09-28-2019, 08:01 PM
How much of a fine would we get for conceding the second half? I think it's worth it

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:02 PM
I’m officially on the “Joe Must Go” train. This is a trend with him. He has no control and isn’t near about as smart as he thinks he is. The longer he stays the deeper our hole gets. Who can we hire? Good question, but it couldn’t be worse than this clown show. Shoop can get the hell out also.

I'm just worried that if he goes, Shrader goes with him.

At least we won't have to worry about Shoop leaving after this year

R2Dawg
09-28-2019, 08:02 PM
It’s a player safety issue. Not just the player being hit, but the one hitting with his helmet.

Players lead with their heads all the time and it is not targeting. That was a makeup call for missing the late hit and it is at Auburn. Thompson was reacting to a bang, bang play. I don't think he knew if he caught the ball or not, he had to make a play. But targeting is total BS.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:02 PM
How much of a fine would we get for conceding the second half? I think it's worth it

Would likely be suspended from postseason.

Dawgology
09-28-2019, 08:02 PM
Y?all do realize the offense looks just fine. Our defense is getting abused and I?m pretty sure joe basically just hands that over to Shoop just like Mullen did.


Our offense looks “fine”????? We scored one ****ing TD!!!!!

Coursesuper
09-28-2019, 08:02 PM
It’s a player safety issue. Not just the player being hit, but the one hitting with his helmet.

There were 7 officials on the field just for that reason.

Bdawg
09-28-2019, 08:03 PM
You mad

No. Just pointing out the obvious.

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 08:03 PM
Moorhead should be fired. We are heading to the dumpster if we keep him

Can we empty the piggy bank for Urban Meyer? Would he take the job if we paid him 8 million a year or whatever it takes? 17 it it's worth it.

msudawg1200
09-28-2019, 08:03 PM
Losing Shrader would suck, but is keeping him worth keeping Joe around?

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:03 PM
Can someone explain this too me?

1178109237580435458

KOdawg1
09-28-2019, 08:03 PM
Would likely be suspended from postseason.

We've pretty much taken care of that ourselves

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:03 PM
Our offense looks “fine”????? We scored one ****ing TD!!!!!

Douche! C34 puppet!**

dawgday166
09-28-2019, 08:04 PM
Nah I remember all too well Cadillac and Ronnie Williams running all down our throats and our anemic offense not scoring a single TD.

This is the worst game I've seen since that year. That was a very bad game too.

RocketDawg
09-28-2019, 08:04 PM
This is what he gets for not playing his best players tonight.

You lose teams when you don't believe in them.

I don't think not having those two players cost us 42 points (so far) tonight. They're good but not that good.

ScottH
09-28-2019, 08:04 PM
Bruh he took 3 or 4 steps after he dropped it and then he hit him. That was a dumb play on Thompson

Must have more discipline regardless of the situations.

PMDawg
09-28-2019, 08:04 PM
Not at all.


But by all means, turn us into UT or Ark

Moorhead's already doing a damn fine job of that.

BayouDawg
09-28-2019, 08:05 PM
Yea I think Im completely onboard with going a different direction from Jomo now. Auburn is better than us but I have had about all I can take with the lack of preparation, discipline, and taking 35 seconds to call a play. I hope joe proves me wrong but I just dont see it getting better.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:06 PM
BTW, the officiating has been awful tonight.

- Derrick Brown should've gotten a roughing the passer penalty -- not called
- The facemask guy on Farrod should have been ejected for a flagrant penalty
- Errol should've been called for a late hit, not targeting & most certainly not ejected

Matt3467
09-28-2019, 08:06 PM
Can we empty the piggy bank for Urban Meyer? Would he take the job if we paid him 8 million a year or whatever it takes? 17 it it's worth it.

Meyer doesn't stay anywhere very long. He has commitment issues obviously.

I still wish we would've gone after a splash hire like a Mike Leach. Yea completely different philosophy but with the way the game is played today I'd be interested to see what he could do with SEC talent.

KOdawg1
09-28-2019, 08:06 PM
Douche! C34 puppet!**

Hey douchebag. I never said our offense looked fine. I never said Bo Nix wasn't a good QB. I never said we'd win the game. I said the opposite. I expected to lose and lose big. Maybe not this big but still. The fact is, you're being insufferable, and your constant need to be the "gotcha" guy is making you a borderline troll. Stick to the Braves message boards you miserable 17

Statecoachingblows**
09-28-2019, 08:06 PM
Can someone explain this too me?

1178109237580435458

Obviously he hit him with the crown of the helmet**

I don't give a shit, at least we finally squared up and hit someone

PMDawg
09-28-2019, 08:06 PM
Y?all do realize the offense looks just fine. Our defense is getting abused and I?m pretty sure joe basically just hands that over to Shoop just like Mullen did.

Yeah, that would be great if he was our OC. He's a good one. But he's not head coach material.

FriarsPoint
09-28-2019, 08:07 PM
If it takes getting rid of this guy, I’ll learn to live with losing to them. I’m not sure I want the same guy making the next hire.

RocketDawg
09-28-2019, 08:07 PM
Can someone explain this too me?

1178109237580435458

Defenseless player getting hit with the helmet portion of the rule I suppose. Had he not come in with his helmet it would have been a regular late hit.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:07 PM
I don't think not having those two players cost us 42 points (so far) tonight. They're good but not that good.

I think it cost us a week's worth of preparation. We may not have won with them, but it wouldn't be like this.

I'm glad we have an off week next week because now Joe has to get buy in from his team again. Could've avoided that by showing belief in them

Doggie_Style
09-28-2019, 08:07 PM
Moorhead ain’t got IT!

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:07 PM
Defenseless player getting hit with the helmet portion of the rule I suppose. Had he not come in with his helmet it would have been a regular late hit.

But he came in at the chest with his face mask up

Doggie_Style
09-28-2019, 08:08 PM
Moorhead ain?t got IT!

R2Dawg
09-28-2019, 08:08 PM
Can someone explain this too me?

1178109237580435458

Pitiful call and on a replay too. Thompson was letting up and wasn't aiming for head, hit him in chest.

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:08 PM
Ohio st is scary good

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 08:08 PM
Losing Shrader would suck, but is keeping him worth keeping Joe around?

Where's Shrader gonna go if we fire Joe? I don't buy he automatically leaves if Joe does.

Skydawg1
09-28-2019, 08:08 PM
We will be lucky to win 6, and the Egg bowl could be ugly for us. This defense is chock full of pussies and undisciplined terrible tacklers with no nuts whatsoever.Biggest ***** on the field started at QB.

parabrave
09-28-2019, 08:09 PM
Can someone explain this too me?

1178109237580435458

He and CJ need to do some Puke Runs this week.

Statecoachingblows**
09-28-2019, 08:09 PM
When is the last time we gave up 42 in the 1st half?

Scared_Hitless
09-28-2019, 08:10 PM
Ohio st is scary good

Alot of ppl overlooking them Nebraska is similar to us and they are getting boatraced at home. They have elite skill guys everywhere.

KOdawg1
09-28-2019, 08:10 PM
He and CJ need to do some Puke Runs this week.

They all do. But they won't which is the problem

defiantdog
09-28-2019, 08:10 PM
Ohio st is scary good

That OL gives the QB all day too

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:10 PM
When is the last time we gave up 42 in the 1st half?

Sirmon never even did that

bobtail bob
09-28-2019, 08:11 PM
Joeyvest doesn't know how to control these hardheads. They were undisciplined on the tutor shit and the are undisciplined in games. These problems won't just go away. We are very vulnerable right now and needs a dam leader to take control of this shit before it causes us real bad problems. We already on probation

Pollodawg
09-28-2019, 08:11 PM
I?d kill for 3-2 right now.

BhamDawg
09-28-2019, 08:11 PM
According to some posters, we are playing for 7 wins this year. Our goals are still within reach***

#ChampionshipStandard

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:12 PM
I'm embarrassed by the defense here, but I can give somewhat of a pass due to what we lost & tutor gate.

What I just can't wrap my brain around is the false starts, delay of games, lack of discipline, & pure abortion of all things special teams.

That too me is why I just can't get on board with JoMo. He just can't manage a company. He's a great guy but he's middle management.

Coach007
09-28-2019, 08:13 PM
Um...we are already a breath away from them. By the end of the season we will be. Here?s a hint: those programs you are scared of us becoming got that way because of bad coaching hires. We made a bad coaching hire. We can fix it or continue that trajectory and become what you are afraid of becoming.

Yes.... playing true freshmen due to recruiting gaps left by Mullen or RS freshmen is totally on Moorhead.

What needs to be looked at is the next 2 years with what we have coming in and what we have.

Anything else is just clutching of Pearls....

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 08:14 PM
How much did UCLA come back from on WSU last week? I'm looking for any reason here to watch the 2nd half.

Cb20476
09-28-2019, 08:15 PM
When we win this game and after all everyone has seen today, can some of you start to look more into details and who everyone has played, instead of listening to talking heads and reading headlines? Facts and stats don?t lie. Add in the eye test after those two and come to your conclusions. Anyone who has used the above method to assess this game with the Barners, would not expect a blowout and would think we have a reasonable chance to win.

Right now it?s Bama and Georgia. Then maybe LSU and everyone else. Clemson just won on a failed 2 PT conversion. They were 27.5 favorites. Oregon has played high school teams. A&M is, well A&M.

:cool:

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:15 PM
South Carolina 10
Kentucky 0 half

Ok st 13
KSU 0. 2nd

dawgday166
09-28-2019, 08:15 PM
Joeyvest doesn't know how to control these hardheads. They were undisciplined on the tutor shit and the are undisciplined in games. These problems won't just go away. We are very vulnerable right now and needs a dam leader to take control of this shit before it causes us real bad problems. We already on probation

Dude ... He's in the middle of taking us up a notch and establishing a "championship standard"

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:16 PM
Yes.... playing true freshmen due to recruiting gaps left by Mullen or RS freshmen is totally on Moorhead.

What needs to be looked at is the next 2 years with what we have coming in and what we have.

Anything else is just clutching of Pearls....

But it's not the recruiting gaps that are the problem.

It's the lack of a functioning machine, discipline, & a lack of attention to detail in all things with our program right now

Randolph Dupree
09-28-2019, 08:16 PM
I'm officially off the Jo Mo train. I like the guy as a person, but the lack of preparation and discipline are not fun to watch. Every now and then it happens, it just does, but this has happened every time on the road last year and it doesn't look like it has gotten better. Unless we turn a major corner I will be turning in my season tickets after this year. Suffered through the Croom years and am too old to go through that again. I will still watch and cheer, but from home.

Doggie_Style
09-28-2019, 08:16 PM
Sirmon never even did that

This BS is on Moorhead.....we are so poorly coached and therefore preparing...sad really

Coach007
09-28-2019, 08:16 PM
Joeyvest doesn't know how to control these hardheads. They were undisciplined on the tutor shit and the are undisciplined in games. These problems won't just go away. We are very vulnerable right now and needs a dam leader to take control of this shit before it causes us real bad problems. We already on probation

I beg to differ. They are being disciplined.


These kids pushed the issues during a coaching change. We caught them and WE disciplined them.

Liverpooldawg
09-28-2019, 08:17 PM
I think it cost us a week's worth of preparation. We may not have won with them, but it wouldn't be like this.

I'm glad we have an off week next week because now Joe has to get buy in from his team again. Could've avoided that by showing belief in them

Which is why you absolutely DO NOT play the two that matter tonight. You only play them if you think they make a difference between a win and a loss. Joe made the ONLY rational call. He is smarter than most here when it comes to football, based on that alone.

Scared_Hitless
09-28-2019, 08:17 PM
Losing Brian Baker hurt these players have regressed on the DLine. Deke Adams and Joey Jones need an evaluation

Coach007
09-28-2019, 08:17 PM
But it's not the recruiting gaps that are the problem.

It's the lack of a functioning machine, discipline, & a lack of attention to detail in all things with our program right now

That comes with true freshmen and freshmen in general.

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 08:17 PM
Why is Holly Rowe a sideline reporter?? What the hell ESPN

bobtail bob
09-28-2019, 08:17 PM
South Carolina 10
Kentucky 0 half

Ok st 13
KSU 0. 2nd

It's funny watching Kentucky play other teams. You don't see the shit talking or dirty shots like when they play us

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:18 PM
Which is why you absolutely DO NOT play the two that matter tonight. You only play them if you think they make a difference between a win and a loss. Joe made the ONLY rational call. He is smarter than most here when it comes to football, based on that alone.

Whatever. What's done is done

Matt3467
09-28-2019, 08:18 PM
BTW #23 Kstate down 14-0 vs OK state in the 2qt and they only have 32yds of total offense lol. Kentucky down 10-0 vs SC at the half with only 78yds total offense.

I said several weeks back I don't know what to expect from this team but we're definitely not a top 20 team like Shotgun says. Heck even without the suspensions we probably aren't top 25 this year.

I believe a bowl game is possible but that's likely the limit. We've recruited well and Schrader is a gem. I believe year 3 is put up or shut up time for JoMo.

Statecoachingblows**
09-28-2019, 08:18 PM
Good grief

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:18 PM
It's funny watching Kentucky play other teams. You don't see the shit talking or dirty shots like when they play us

Us & Florida are they're super bowl

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:19 PM
How much fun will it be to watch Bama and LSU face our defense?

Coursesuper
09-28-2019, 08:19 PM
Yes.... playing true freshmen due to recruiting gaps left by Mullen or RS freshmen is totally on Moorhead.

What needs to be looked at is the next 2 years with what we have coming in and what we have.

Anything else is just clutching of Pearls....

In two more years we will be in the right back in the cellar and you will be pumping sunshine up peoples ass all the way down there.

somebodyshotmypaw
09-28-2019, 08:19 PM
Can somebody tell me what kind of idiot gets an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty when getting whipped 42-9?

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 08:19 PM
That comes with true freshmen and freshmen in general.

Why do you hate Keytaon so much?

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:19 PM
Good grief

Another penalty

dawgday166
09-28-2019, 08:19 PM
Yes.... playing true freshmen due to recruiting gaps left by Mullen or RS freshmen is totally on Moorhead.

What needs to be looked at is the next 2 years with what we have coming in and what we have.

Anything else is just clutching of Pearls....

We were 11 - 1 despite all that weren't we? Cause all our upperclassmen and returning players on O and Joe's brilliance we were going to explode on SECW. How's Tommy doing?

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:20 PM
Nix is so overrated

Coach007
09-28-2019, 08:20 PM
How much fun will it be to watch Bama and LSU face our defense?

None, because Moorhead has decided to play the young guys then and save everybody else for the would be wins

GreenheadDawg
09-28-2019, 08:20 PM
This BS is on Moorhead.....we are so poorly coached and therefore preparing...sad really

Our players are completely out of control. They don’t know assignments and look lost. This is a bad football team.

Liverpooldawg
09-28-2019, 08:20 PM
I beg to differ. They are being disciplined.


These kids pushed the issues during a coaching change. We caught them and WE disciplined them.

EXACTLY. Blame the lazy bastards that actually DID the crime. My understanding is if you can google you can pass that course. There is no need for a "tutor". It was laziness. We can't even blame stupidity of college football players.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:20 PM
Auburn is playing vs air

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 08:20 PM
49 points with 28 minutes left. I'm out. Eat shit Cohen. I hate you for running Mullen off.

Statecoachingblows**
09-28-2019, 08:21 PM
How much fun will it be to watch Bama and LSU face our defense?

Me personally, I get to celebrate my anniversary the weekend of the Bama game. I get extra credit when I don't try to watch the game and plan some dumb shit she likes. This year nets me some extra "points" ��

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:21 PM
On Danztler

My ass he leaves after this year

He isn't near as good as people have built him up to be

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:21 PM
Auburn is playing vs air

There was a defender there... perfect pass, but you'll never admit it

maroonmania
09-28-2019, 08:21 PM
I'm done with this garbage. There are too many games on right now with competent teams to watch to stay with this crap. This is a GREAT national commercial for our program.

BayouDawg
09-28-2019, 08:21 PM
The worst thing Im seeing is body language. It looks like our guys just dont care. Thats a bad sign

Quaoarsking
09-28-2019, 08:22 PM
49 points with 28 minutes left. I'm out. Eat shit Cohen. I hate you for running Mullen off.

How in the world is it possible for someone to be under this impression?

Statecoachingblows**
09-28-2019, 08:22 PM
Nix is so overrated


Picking apart this defense does not show how great he is by any stretch.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:22 PM
There was a defender there... perfect pass, but you'll never admit it

I wrote that on the previous play

Cb20476
09-28-2019, 08:22 PM
Nix is just going to get better. Auburn has a lot of upside with that defense

Matt3467
09-28-2019, 08:22 PM
49 points with 28 minutes left. I'm out. Eat shit Cohen. I hate you for running Mullen off.

Now now you know Mullen wanted out years before Cohen.

BayouDawg
09-28-2019, 08:23 PM
49 points with 28 minutes left. I'm out. Eat shit Cohen. I hate you for running Mullen off.

Mullen was trying to run off for the better part of a decade. But I can agree with the Cohen hate nonetheless

Liverpooldawg
09-28-2019, 08:23 PM
Why do you hate Keytaon so much?

Nobody hates KT. His passing stats SUCK. If you think a 40% passer and POSSIBLY a better runner would have changed this, you know NOTHING at all about football.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:23 PM
The worst thing Im seeing is body language. It looks like our guys just dont care. Thats a bad sign

Why should they?

Their head coach told them they sucked early this week when he gave them no chance to win the game by sitting their two best players

BankerDog
09-28-2019, 08:23 PM
We have our version of Gus Bus.

BayouDawg
09-28-2019, 08:24 PM
We have our version of Gus Bus.

And it is the dollar general brand

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:24 PM
I'd get shrader out.

timotheus
09-28-2019, 08:24 PM
reflection of the calm demeanor of the HC. or is it a puzzled look. whew this worked against minnesota one time

bobtail bob
09-28-2019, 08:24 PM
We are a laughing stock

Doggie_Style
09-28-2019, 08:24 PM
Moorhead Sux

Statecoachingblows**
09-28-2019, 08:24 PM
Damn take long enough to throw that flag??

Scared_Hitless
09-28-2019, 08:24 PM
Gus isnt gonna call thw dawgs off either

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:24 PM
They're teeing off on shrader. Get em out

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:25 PM
burn the game tape. Just burn it

RocketDawg
09-28-2019, 08:25 PM
Which is why you absolutely DO NOT play the two that matter tonight. You only play them if you think they make a difference between a win and a loss. Joe made the ONLY rational call. He is smarter than most here when it comes to football, based on that alone.

In that case, he might want to think about taking Shrader out before he gets hurt. Save him for the next game.

Scared_Hitless
09-28-2019, 08:25 PM
These refs can get ****ed letting that happen

Rex54
09-28-2019, 08:25 PM
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Sports/espnapi_r285872_576x324_16-9_wmain.jpg

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:26 PM
Our coach just got a 15-yarder. Jeez

the_real_MSU_is_us
09-28-2019, 08:26 PM
Why should they?

Their head coach told them they sucked early this week when he gave them no chance to win the game by sitting their two best players

OK, you realize playing them in this game just kicks the "coach told them we can't win" can down the road, right? We have to sit them vs someone.

As was said before the game, if we lose close JoMo should take a lot of heat for not playing them. But we're getting blown out. May as well be down 49-9 vs Bama and blame JoMo for not playing the suspended players in that game.

Personally, I think A&M is a much more winnable game and I think we should play them there.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:27 PM
What?

They really just called a penalty on Moorhead for that?

BankerDog
09-28-2019, 08:27 PM
Our coach just got a 15-yarder. Jeez

Hey, everyone wanted some emotion. There it is.

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 08:27 PM
Now now you know Mullen wanted out years before Cohen.

Nah I don't believe that. Mullen was pretty much in it for the long haul all through Dak's career here and Dak didn't get drafted till 2016. Cohen became AD November of 2016.

vv83
09-28-2019, 08:27 PM
Our coach just got a 15-yarder. Jeez

What did he do? Listening on radio

GreenheadDawg
09-28-2019, 08:27 PM
Our coach just got a 15-yarder. Jeez

Our coach is about as disciplined as our players. It starts at the top.

bluelightstar
09-28-2019, 08:28 PM
Moorhead is a garbage coach. Well on his way to our worst loss in decades

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:28 PM
Hey, everyone wanted some emotion. There it is.

Haha, nice post

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:28 PM
What did he do? Listening on radio

Said something apparently

RocketDawg
09-28-2019, 08:28 PM
Can somebody tell me what kind of idiot gets an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty when getting whipped 42-9?

It's 49-9. :) Don't know who got the unsportsmanlike. Was it Moorhead himself?

I seen it dawg
09-28-2019, 08:29 PM
Waiting for the "let Vic coach the team"

Coach34
09-28-2019, 08:29 PM
Some of you need to learn alot about football, psychology, development, and emotion.

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:29 PM
It's 49-9. :) Don't know who got the unsportsmanlike. Was it Moorhead himself?

Yes

vindastra
09-28-2019, 08:29 PM
Can get behind that had it not derailed at FAU.

BayouDawg
09-28-2019, 08:29 PM
Nah I don't believe that. Mullen was pretty much in it for the long haul all through Dak's career here and Dak didn't get drafted till 2016. Cohen became AD November of 2016.

Well you can believe whatever you want but that doesnt change the facts.

I seen it dawg
09-28-2019, 08:29 PM
It's 49-9. :) Don't know who got the unsportsmanlike. Was it Moorhead himself?

Yep and he should have.

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 08:29 PM
I'd get shrader out.


They're teeing off on shrader. Get em out

What the hell does it take for Keytaon or Mayden to play QB for us again?? Moorhead is definitely not the qb whisperer. Half his qbs don't seem to be on talking terms with him and definitely aren't on ever seeing the field terms.

GreenheadDawg
09-28-2019, 08:29 PM
Waiting for the "let Vic coach the team"

I don’t think he could do any worse.

lastmajordog
09-28-2019, 08:30 PM
At least om tried till the end......this is just awful....

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:30 PM
Behind the blow out score, is a completely awful officiated game tonight.

The penalties have been extremely one sided when both sides have committed them

Coach007
09-28-2019, 08:30 PM
Shrader was hit in the head with a launch. The contact was to the head by the shoulder pads of the defender

No targeting call.

Moorhead was pissed

Coursesuper
09-28-2019, 08:30 PM
They have no idea, and we got issues bro.

I seen it dawg
09-28-2019, 08:30 PM
Nah I don't believe that. Mullen was pretty much in it for the long haul all through Dak's career here and Dak didn't get drafted till 2016. Cohen became AD November of 2016.

Bullshit mullen was. He was always one foot out the **********

the_real_MSU_is_us
09-28-2019, 08:30 PM
In that case, he might want to think about taking Shrader out before he gets hurt. Save him for the next game.

Shrader playing = he gains experience and maybe gets better. The suspended playing = one less game they can play in later. It's a completely different scenario, though I do agree with getting Shrader out. Put Stevens back in and give him 1 last chance to win the starter job back. If he doesn't make stuff happen, nobody can say Joe didn't give him his fair shot

BankerDog
09-28-2019, 08:30 PM
Nah I don't believe that. Mullen was pretty much in it for the long haul all through Dak's career here and Dak didn't get drafted till 2016. Cohen became AD November of 2016.

Mullen had taken the Miami job until they backed out and hired Richt. Hence why that ?16 class sucked outside of Simmons. There is a reason we didn?t close with Lashley, Knott, Davis, and Brown (not that Lashley and Knott are a bad thing)

Matt3467
09-28-2019, 08:31 PM
Nah I don't believe that. Mullen was pretty much in it for the long haul all through Dak's career here and Dak didn't get drafted till 2016. Cohen became AD November of 2016.

Miami and Maryland suddenly come to mind.

Liverpooldawg
09-28-2019, 08:31 PM
Ugh, as this board's resident USC, THE REAL ONE, fan....NO. The GOAT boy is a legend, in his own mind.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:31 PM
The is the most horrific defense I've ever seen us field

BankerDog
09-28-2019, 08:31 PM
Haha, nice post

We just need some more Ra-Ra. That would cure all of our defensive woes.

Dawgology
09-28-2019, 08:31 PM
I'm done with this garbage. There are too many games on right now with competent teams to watch to stay with this crap. This is a GREAT national commercial for our program.

I?m picking up Oklahoma here lately. I dig them. I?ll come back to MSU football when JoMo is gone from here.

Statecoachingblows**
09-28-2019, 08:32 PM
There's 24 minutes left in this game. Jesus

Scared_Hitless
09-28-2019, 08:32 PM
I feel like I dropped the soap in prison

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:32 PM
The is the most horrific defense I've ever seen us field

Ark in 2016 was just as bad

Liverpooldawg
09-28-2019, 08:32 PM
What the hell does it take for Keytaon or Mayden to play QB for us again?? Moorhead is definitely not the qb whisperer. Half his qbs don't seem to be on talking terms with him and definitely aren't on ever seeing the field terms.

You DO realize you are the only one, don't you?

TUSK
09-28-2019, 08:32 PM
Some of you need to learn alot about football, psychology, development, and emotion.

Easiest carcass you’ve circled in quite some time.

Coach34
09-28-2019, 08:33 PM
and why Joe saved Gay for Tennessee

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:33 PM
Why are Auburn fans still in to this game?

Liverpooldawg
09-28-2019, 08:33 PM
The is the most horrific defense I've ever seen us field

You must be really young.

Okrastar1
09-28-2019, 08:33 PM
Hell we never lost this bad under Croom... Championship Standard!

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:33 PM
Ark in 2016 was just as bad

Boy IDK. We're giving up more points here

Dawg61
09-28-2019, 08:34 PM
Ark in 2016 was just as bad

Zak "Toast" Smith vs JaMarcus Russell will never be topped but this performance is about as disappointing

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:34 PM
You must be really young.

Thankfully young enough

defiantdog
09-28-2019, 08:34 PM
Good play calls Joe..... He's given up too

BayouDawg
09-28-2019, 08:34 PM
Hell we never lost this bad under Croom... Championship Standard!

Yea you may wanna look back to that 2004 LSU game.

R2Dawg
09-28-2019, 08:34 PM
Glad we don't play Tulane or Maine for that matter.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:35 PM
Good play calls Joe..... He's given up too

He gave up on Monday

WeWonItAll(Most)
09-28-2019, 08:35 PM
Spivey let another one bounce off his chest.

ETA: wasn't Spivey. It's incredible that our entire WR staff can't make routine catches

Coursesuper
09-28-2019, 08:35 PM
Mississippi State hadn’t given up 42 points in the first half since 1971. And we have played some shitty football since then. Just food for thought.

Scared_Hitless
09-28-2019, 08:35 PM
Damn even Jerry Rice cant catch

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:35 PM
Kentucky down 17-0 to South Carolina. We may be in a dog fight with tenn, ark, and om

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:35 PM
Another drop

NCDawg
09-28-2019, 08:35 PM
I don't recall ever seeing a worse prepared MS State team-maybe there were some during the Croom era, but I doubt it.

defiantdog
09-28-2019, 08:35 PM
Yea you may wanna look back to that 2004 LSU game.

I was there..... Probably the drunkest I've ever been at a football game

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:36 PM
Spivey let another one bounce off his chest.

Our nfl te?

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:36 PM
Kentucky down 17-0 to South Carolina. We may be in a dog fight with tenn, ark, and om

If it's on the road, we are screwed

I've seen nothing out of JoMo's ability to coach on the road that makes me think we can execute anything

dawgday166
09-28-2019, 08:36 PM
Good play calls Joe..... He's given up too

Hell ... He never started. Can't give up unless you start.

Statecoachingblows**
09-28-2019, 08:36 PM
I?m picking up Oklahoma here lately. I dig them. I?ll come back to MSU football when JoMo is gone from here.


Mississippi State hadn?t given up 42 points in the first half since 1971. And we have played some shitty football since then. Just food for thought.

Yikes

lastmajordog
09-28-2019, 08:36 PM
I feel like I dropped the soap in prison

ding ding ding...we have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R2Dawg
09-28-2019, 08:36 PM
If you can feel good after watching this; I just don't know how to help you. We can still win 6-7 but if we play like this we only win 1 more.

RocketDawg
09-28-2019, 08:37 PM
Shrader playing = he gains experience and maybe gets better. The suspended playing = one less game they can play in later. It's a completely different scenario, though I do agree with getting Shrader out. Put Stevens back in and give him 1 last chance to win the starter job back. If he doesn't make stuff happen, nobody can say Joe didn't give him his fair shot

Yeah, I realize the difference in reasoning. But yes, Shrader needs to come out to protect him, but I'm not sure Stevens is capable of coming back in. This would be the perfect time for Kaeton or Mayden to play.

Bishop6
09-28-2019, 08:37 PM
He needs to just accept he was duped and cut his losses. Go hire a coach with P5 experience. This is what happens when you try and go cheap.

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:37 PM
and why Joe saved Gay for Tennessee

Just hope he doesn't lose the team first

dantheman4248
09-28-2019, 08:38 PM
The first two offensive drives told me Joe isn’t cut out for it. I don’t want to see Garret for 4 years under him. I can be a man and admit I was dead wrong. Smart guy football doesn’t work work when you can’t keep it simple when you need to. It’s amazing to see this guy coach two different games between this year and last year against the same team.

My stream has been going out, but how many times have we run something other than 11 personnel?

Liverpooldawg
09-28-2019, 08:38 PM
Bullshit mullen was. He was always one foot out the **********

You need to face the FACT that pretty much every coach we have ever had but Rocky Felker was one foot out the door if given the chance. Mullen was the only one since the 1950s that HAD the chance. THAT was an IMMENSE sign of progress, although 99.9999% of our fans lack the intelligence to understand that.

parabrave
09-28-2019, 08:38 PM
Yea you may wanna look back to that 2004 LSU game.

There were a few more LSU games under Croom and even Mullen.

I seen it dawg
09-28-2019, 08:38 PM
Whole lot people in here was all over play willie and autry bc we will be more motivated and we can win. A few called this.

msstate7
09-28-2019, 08:38 PM
Kentucky 28-7
LSU 19-3
Bama 24-0
Auburn 49-9 3rd

Totals: opponents 120 state 19

Matt3467
09-28-2019, 08:39 PM
Hell we never lost this bad under Croom... Championship Standard!

51-0 vs Lsu where with York throwing for 46 yards and Reid rushing for 23
45-0 vs Lsu
45-0 vs TSUN
15-0 vs SC and 34-0 vs AU back to back weeks
I can go on.

Statecoachingblows**
09-28-2019, 08:39 PM
They just damn near tackled our defensive lineman

Mobile Bay
09-28-2019, 08:39 PM
Morehead was an absolute trash hire and Cohen should be fired for it.

the_real_MSU_is_us
09-28-2019, 08:39 PM
What did you guys expect our D to look like? We knew our DT's couldn't hold their own. We've seen horrible tackling in every game. We've gotten zero pass rush in any game. Our DBs have blown coverages all year. Our safeties are slow. Our DBs have failed to beat blockers on the edge all year. We have no speed at LB.

In this game, we see runs working due to our bad DL play, deep passing work because of blown coverages, and anything outside work because of they win every 1 on 1 block and the S is never there.

Not sure what y'all though it would look like, and I'm not sure what you want Shoop to do. Jarian Jones and Emmerson are Fr so we can't blame Shoop for not having them up to par on assignments. Safeties simply have no athleticism, but they're usually doing what they should so you can't blame Shoop. DL is simply getting dominated so what, is that Shoops fault for allowing Deke Adams to be a bad DL coach? Really though, I'll die on this hill: Shoop is a good DC and our personnel issues mean there's very little he can do

Bothrops
09-28-2019, 08:39 PM
Lose Moorhead, lose Shrader.

Okrastar1
09-28-2019, 08:39 PM
Yea you may wanna look back to that 2004 LSU game.

Was there, lost 52-0... you realize Auburn has 49 with 20 minutes left to go? You think that’s the same?

ShotgunDawg
09-28-2019, 08:40 PM
Whole lot people in here was all over play willie and autry bc we will be more motivated and we can win. A few called this.

I just refuse to believe it would've been like this had they played. I think the operation would've been tighter

Liverpooldawg
09-28-2019, 08:40 PM
Why are Auburn fans still in to this game?

Because they know how to be REAL fans. WE, as in MSU fans, SUCK.

Liverpooldawg
09-28-2019, 08:41 PM
I just refuse to believe it would've been like this had they played. I think the operation would've been tighter

SO WHAT? We still wouldn't have won. We would have blown one of their 4 games in a useless effort.