Current Stats for MSU/AU for Conversation

[TrapGame]

Total Defense:

AU #55 Pass #82 Run #28
MSU #73 Pass #74 Run #77

Total Offense:

AU #41 Rush #7 Pass #107
MSU #48 Rush #18 Pass #92


Discuss my friends. What sticks out? Where can we find an edge?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Total Defense:

AU #55 Pass #82 Run #28
MSU #73 Pass #74 Run #77

Total Offense:

AU #41 Rush #7 Pass #107
MSU #48 Rush #18 Pass #92


Discuss my friends. What sticks out? Where can we find an edge?

If Tommy is healthy I think we can exploit their pass defense. Our O line will have to do a good job of keeping Bryant and Brown off of him, but if they're able to then there's definitely holes in that Auburn secondary. Oregon proved that in the first game. Effectively passing is going to open up Kylin and the run game. This will be by far the stiffest defense we have faced.

For us, we have to find a way to put them behind the chains and make Bo Nix beat us. Gang tackling is going to be important in this one. Our corners have to come up on the speed sweeps and be able to wrap up long enough to give Erroll and Co. and chance to get there.

[Tbonewannabe]

For one thing, we have to tackle a lot better. The other thing is our Oline needs to show how good they really are. We desperately need Tommy Stevens healthy in this game.

[ShotgunDawg]

Gotta tackle to prevent big play

Need a turnover or two that leads to points.

Have to control the ball & shorten the game.

This isn't like us trying to beat Bama. We are completely capable of pulling this off but we have to play out best game with a little luck

[TrapGame]

For one thing, we have to tackle a lot better. The other thing is our Oline needs to show how good they really are. We desperately need Tommy Stevens healthy in this game.

Tommy adds the one thing we desperately need for this game, a downfield passing threat. We can possibly load the box and keep AU's rushing game in check and force Nix to throw it.

[Tbonewannabe]

Gotta tackle to prevent big play

Need a turnover or two that leads to points.

Have to control the ball & shorten the game.

This isn't like us trying to beat Bama. We are completely capable of pulling this off but we have to play out best game with a little luck

I agree and we can cause turnovers if we pressure Nix. This game needs to be a 20-17 type of game with us winning the turnover battle like 0-3. We need to win the time of possession also to give our limited defensive depth as much rest as possible.

[Madisonmd]

Game as always will be won at LOS

[TrapGame]

I agree and we can cause turnovers if we pressure Nix. This game needs to be a 20-17 type of game with us winning the turnover battle like 0-3. We need to win the time of possession also to give our limited defensive depth as much rest as possible.

If we get 3 or more turnovers we win. If we somehow, someway get a two score lead Gus's offense is not built to come from behind this year. Bo Nix is not Cam Newton. I'm interested in what Shoop has up his sleeve for a freshman QB who didn't complete a forward pass over ten yards last Saturday.

[Duckdog]

Tommy isn't going to be 100% healthy. Put in the amish assassin!!!!!!!!!!

[R2Dawg]

Gotta tackle to prevent big play

Need a turnover or two that leads to points.

Have to control the ball & shorten the game.

This isn't like us trying to beat Bama. We are completely capable of pulling this off but we have to play out best game with a little luck

20 games in a row, MSU holds the longest active streak getting a TO. That is a good stat for our D.

[dawgday166]

Good thread on SPS about AU passing stats and D.

[TrapGame]

Good thread on SPS about AU passing stats and D.

Yep, that's what inspired this thread.

[dantheman4248]

If we get 3 or more turnovers we win. If we somehow, someway get a two score lead Gus's offense is not built to come from behind this year. Bo Nix is not Cam Newton. I'm interested in what Shoop has up his sleeve for a freshman QB who didn't complete a forward pass over ten yards last Saturday.

Does anyone wanna tell him?

Edit: Answering the question: 50+ carries on offense with a 5.0+ ypc. Defense needs to be stout against the run in the red zone. No red zone rushing TDs with that offensive output is the recipe for our success against this team.

[Tbonewannabe]

If we get 3 or more turnovers we win. If we somehow, someway get a two score lead Gus's offense is not built to come from behind this year. Bo Nix is not Cam Newton. I'm interested in what Shoop has up his sleeve for a freshman QB who didn't complete a forward pass over ten yards last Saturday.

The key will be to make sure we don't give them back. We probably need a +3 turnover margin to have a chance which isn't impossible. That is one thing this defense is pretty good at.

[TrapGame]

The key will be to make sure we don't give them back. We probably need a +3 turnover margin to have a chance which isn't impossible. That is one thing this defense is pretty good at.

We turn it over and we're toast. And I really want Shoop to rattle Nix.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The key will be to make sure we don't give them back. We probably need a +3 turnover margin to have a chance which isn't impossible. That is one thing this defense is pretty good at.

It's all going to come down to can we force Nix to make throws with pressure in his face and can we keep a clean enough pocket for Garrett to have long enough to throw. If we can force this game to come down to the play of the Freshman QBs I like our chances.

[Cooterpoot]

Their schedule is a lot tougher than ours.

[Jack Lambert]

Their schedule is a lot tougher than ours.

A&M and Pac 12 schools have failed to impress me.

[Tbonewannabe]

A&M and Pac 12 schools have failed to impress me.

I will say that A&M > UK and Oregon > KSU. I don't think it is a wide margin but they have faced tougher teams. Saturday is going to show us a lot about our team and coaching staff.

[Jack Lambert]

I will say that A&M > UK and Oregon > KSU. I don't think it is a wide margin but they have faced tougher teams. Saturday is going to show us a lot about our team and coaching staff.

Just go look at the pack 12 schedule and records. They are no good and the jury is out about A&M.

[Offshore Dawg]

" YES WE DO "

[Cooterpoot]

A&M and Pac 12 schools have failed to impress me.

Better than what we?ve seen. Not even close.

[msstate7]

Strength of schedule...
Auburn #2
Miss state #28

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

[TrapGame]

Strength of schedule...
Auburn #2
Miss state #28

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

Are these redone at the end of the season to account for the actual wins and losses?

[Jack Lambert]

Better than what we?ve seen. Not even close.

That's your opinion.

[Jack Lambert]

Strength of schedule...
Auburn #2
Miss state #28

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

What is this based on? Current polls? Not buying it.

[msstate7]

Are these redone at the end of the season to account for the actual wins and losses?
Redone every week

[Cooterpoot]

Don’t confuse them with facts 7.

[TrapGame]

Redone every week

So we'll have to wait until the end of the season to see if that #2 strength of schedule holds up.

[msstate7]

So we'll have to wait until the end of the season to see if that #2 strength of schedule holds up.

Yep. They still have Florida, LSU, Georgia, and Bama left though

[basedog]

Yep. They still have Florida, LSU, Georgia, and Bama left though

Our schedule will get tougher as well.

[msstate7]

Our schedule will get tougher as well.

Not that tough. Florida and Georgia far outweigh Kentucky and tenn

[dawgday166]

Not that tough. Florida and Georgia far outweigh Kentucky and tenn

Only in your Universe ***** KY & FL may be close to wash. TN .. they getting closer to be Ga like.

[DancingRabbit]

Probably doesn't mean much but FPI offense grades and SP+ offense rankings say that MSU's defense has faced better offenses.


SP+ offense rank - lower is better
ULL - 20
KY - 35
aTm - 43
KSU - 47
Oregon - 48
Tulane - 59
USM - 63
Kent State - 97

FPI offense grade - higher is better
KSU - 82.9
ULL - 72.2
Oregon -71.8
USM - 64.9
aTm - 63.3
KY - 59.4
Tulane - 53
Kent State - 48.4

[biggun]

Game as always will be won at LOS

They will run all over our defense. Our DL is just not very good, at all. And our secondary is very average as well. If W Gay does not play, the same is true of our LB play. Add it all up and it is most likely a very long night for us on the Plains

[basedog]

[QUOTE=msstate7;1154829]Not that tough. Florida and Georgia far outweigh Kentucky and ten

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[basedog]

Not that tough. Florida and Georgia far outweigh Kentucky and tenn

U missed the point, OUR schedule gets tougher.

BTW, yes Fl is unbeaten but Ky choked away that game. Not sure how tough they really are, maybe over rated slightly, fo sho not top 10. JMO.

Oh I think is the best team in Sec.

[basedog]

Not that tough. Florida and Georgia far outweigh Kentucky and tenn

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[dantheman4248]

They will run all over our defense. Our DL is just not very good, at all. And our secondary is very average as well. If W Gay does not play, the same is true of our LB play. Add it all up and it is most likely a very long night for us on the Plains

You don’t even know what’s happened in games we’ve already played. Amazing how you can predict the future.

[Todd4State]

Better than what we?ve seen. Not even close.

And Kylin is better than any back that they've seen this year too.

[Todd4State]

The thing that worries me the most is Gus running trick plays and pulling them off for TD's.

I think this game we are in the same situation UK was in when they played us. On the road against a team that they beat the year before.

Hopefully we can pass the ball well enough to open up some running lanes for Kylin.

[Dawgcap]

The funny thing is football games are decided by strength of schedule for SEC teams. Our problem is it’s a road game but in my mind we can play with them. The key is how we react to adversity on the road. If we play smart and hold on to the ball we have a chance. We are due a 24-21 type road win so my dumbass is calling it now

[Dawgcap]

Not decided by strength of schedule

[Dawgcap]

The thing that worries me the most is Gus running trick plays and pulling them off for TD's.

I think this game we are in the same situation UK was in when they played us. On the road against a team that they beat the year before.

Hopefully we can pass the ball well enough to open up some running lanes for Kylin.
I agree. A passing game with no more than 1 turnover and PLEASE NO BREAKDOWNS ON SPECIAL TEAMS. If we play well in these areas our D keeps us in it. 24-21 good guys

[R2Dawg]

Total Defense:

AU #55 Pass #82 Run #28
MSU #73 Pass #74 Run #77

Total Offense:

AU #41 Rush #7 Pass #107
MSU #48 Rush #18 Pass #92


Discuss my friends. What sticks out? Where can we find an edge?

Stats are kinda skewed. Aub has high rushing numbers but 400+ on Kent St. is misleading. Aub not a great team on O. We have a punchers chance here. You could say our D is just what they need but at the same time, their O may be just what we need.