Guy getting CPR in section 338 yesterday died. (UPDATE - DID NOT DIE)

[starkvegasdawg]

*UPDATE* See UPDATE below*
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?76262-Guy-getting-CPR-in-section-338-yesterday-died-(UPDATE-DID-NOT-DIE)&p=1145745&viewfull=1#post1145745


Hate to hear that for his family. Security I talked to said they're pretty sure it was heat related. But let's keep having games when it's 120 in the sun.

[ShotgunDawg]

Hate to hear that for his family. Security I talked to said they're pretty sure it was heat related. But let's keep having games when it's 120 in the sun.

Completely asinine that we are playing college football in 100 degree weather in a stadium with no shade.

It just pisses me off how stupid people are.

[Cooterpoot]

If only concessions were open.*

[FriarsPoint]

Football shouldn’t start until September 15 at the earliest.

[WinningIsRelentless]

Hate to hear that for his family. Security I talked to said they're pretty sure it was heat related. But let's keep having games when it's 120 in the sun.

I wouldn?t take what security said for fact. Might have had a factor but I the walk up the ramp!

[msstate7]

Meanwhile they'll be how many Mississippians working outside in this heat all week again this week. The heat sucks, but it's just a fact of life in the south. This isn't the first year we've played in the heat, and it won't be the last

[Pokerdawg44]

I’m assuming you’re talking about my dad who was sitting in 338. He is alive and well. He flatlined at game and they had to zap him. It’s quite the mystery of what happen as they’ve done every test and say it wasn’t a heart attack and he’s just been transported back to Memphis for a cardiologist specialist. My dad has been going to games since he graduated in the 60s and has had season tickets for 40 years and after yesterday he will not being good to day games in first half of season.

[AlSwearengen]

Good to hear he is o.k.

[MrKotter]

I’m assuming you’re talking about my dad who was sitting in 338. He is alive and well. He flatlined at game and they had to zap him. It’s quite the mystery of what happen as they’ve done every test and say it wasn’t a heart attack and he’s just been transported back to Memphis for a cardiologist specialist. My dad has been going to games since he graduated in the 60s and has had season tickets for 40 years and after yesterday he will not being good to day games in first half of season.

That?s great he?s doing well. Thanks for the update

[Bass Chaser]

Completely asinine that we are playing college football in 100 degree weather in a stadium with no shade.

It just pisses me off how stupid people are.

What possible shade solution is there for the East side?

[starkvegasdawg]

I’m assuming you’re talking about my dad who was sitting in 338. He is alive and well. He flatlined at game and they had to zap him. It’s quite the mystery of what happen as they’ve done every test and say it wasn’t a heart attack and he’s just been transported back to Memphis for a cardiologist specialist. My dad has been going to games since he graduated in the 60s and has had season tickets for 40 years and after yesterday he will not being good to day games in first half of season.

Extremely glad to know I had bad information. Never been more happy to be wrong.

[Coach007]

What possible shade solution is there for the East side?

You would think that there would be a simply solution for creating a lower field temp.


A shade top made of simple screen like material with motor systems. Won't need air conditioning, but pulled up at 8.am will keep temps lowered.



BTW, GLad your dad is ok

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I’m assuming you’re talking about my dad who was sitting in 338. He is alive and well. He flatlined at game and they had to zap him. It’s quite the mystery of what happen as they’ve done every test and say it wasn’t a heart attack and he’s just been transported back to Memphis for a cardiologist specialist. My dad has been going to games since he graduated in the 60s and has had season tickets for 40 years and after yesterday he will not being good to day games in first half of season.

Heck yeah. Great news that he is alive and well!

[Coach007]

Extremely glad to know I had bad information. Never been more happy to be wrong.

AMEN!!!

[Coach007]

Why can't this:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27yz-6GgyA





Be done on stadiums with a mesh even.

[confucius say]

Just do the extended roof thing that Washington does. Shotgun posted a pic of it recently. Can we not afford that or smn?

[starkvegasdawg]

This isn't the first year we've played in the heat, and it won't be the last

But it should be.

[Coach007]

Just do the extended roof thing that Washington does. Shotgun posted a pic of it recently. Can we not afford that or smn?

Would love to see it.

[msstate7]

Just do the extended roof thing that Washington does. Shotgun posted a pic of it recently. Can we not afford that or smn?

If the argument is player safety, would this even help?

[starkvegasdawg]

If the argument is player safety, would this even help?

Its player and fan safety.

[Recreationalgynecologist]

Early season night games in the South make a lot of sense to me. It gets pretty hot up here and a couple years ago, my father struggled through some extremely high temps during a 11am game on Labor Day weekend. At least the University provided free water, but those 11am-noon games with the sun over the field the entire game isn't exactly a recipe for a fun time.

[Katdoc12]

I?m assuming you?re talking about my dad who was sitting in 338. He is alive and well. He flatlined at game and they had to zap him. It?s quite the mystery of what happen as they?ve done every test and say it wasn?t a heart attack and he?s just been transported back to Memphis for a cardiologist specialist. My dad has been going to games since he graduated in the 60s and has had season tickets for 40 years and after yesterday he will not being good to day games in first half of season.

So glad to hear he is alive & doing OK! Scary situation from what it sounds like. 🙏 He continues to improve!

[gtowndawg]

I think this is a simple solution. If it's super hot and dangerous, play it but just don't expect a decent crowd. It's that simple. It is what it is.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Oh yeah, game tickets, parking, and water should be free as well.

[ShotgunDawg]

What possible shade solution is there for the East side?

Use your imagination.

We have built stadium after stadium on this campus & facility after facility, but have basically ignored THE most important building on campus. It's ludacris

[ShotgunDawg]

Why can't this:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27yz-6GgyA





Be done on stadiums with a mesh even.

We are a $100 million dollar athletic department. Why do you feel the need to cheap & make it look like shit?

How about this

https://www.djc.com/stories/images/20130905/SpotStadium_big.jpg

[ShotgunDawg]

Just do the extended roof thing that Washington does. Shotgun posted a pic of it recently. Can we not afford that or smn?

Exactly.... for whatever reason, our fan base can't grasp that we have money. Lots of it.

From the Croom era till now, our athletic budget has gone from $25 mil to over $100 mil & it ain't slowing down with close to $30 mil more per year coming in 2024 with the new TV contract

[ShotgunDawg]

If the argument is player safety, would this even help?

Yes, Adding shade would lower the overall temp of the stadium including he playing surface. It may go from 103 degrees to 95 degrees, but everything counts. Not to mention that a Washington style roof doubles as something that keeps people dry when it rains

[ShotgunDawg]

I think this is a simple solution. If it's super hot and dangerous, play it but just don't expect a decent crowd. It's that simple. It is what it is.

That's not a solution, that's giving up.

Again, we are a $100+ million athletic department & that's only going up. It's ridiculous that believe that we can't afford solutions

[ShotgunDawg]

We are a $100 million dollar athletic department. Why do you feel the need to cheap & make it look like shit?

How about this

https://www.djc.com/stories/images/20130905/SpotStadium_big.jpg

To add, on the bottom side of these roofs, I'd install the big helicopter blade fans.

http://dougsnyder.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/huge-ceiling-fan-a-huge-fan-inside-the-fox-ford-dealership-huge-ceiling-fan-huge-outdoor-ceiling-fan.jpg

[StateDawg44]

Shotgun, you say you want something done with the endzone, and now you say you want huge covers put on the stadium. I get that we probably have more money to throw at facilities now than early 2000's but we aren't made of money like you make it seem.

Also, did you even go to the game this weekend?

[ShotgunDawg]

Shotgun, you say you want something done with the endzone, and now you say you want huge covers put on the stadium. I get that we probably have more money to throw at facilities now than early 2000's but we aren't made of money like you make it seem.

Also, did you even go to the game this weekend?

How do you know much money we have?

We've done the revenue vs expenses on here. Also, I don't think what I'm asking for is a terribly expensive project compared to building Dudy Noble or other projects we've done.

Why do MSU fans that have no clue how much money we have constantly say we don't have any money?

How expenses could it be to add some roofs & fans to DWS?

10 mil? maybe 20 mil max?

[StarkVegasSteve]

I will say that I for one was very wrong about the game Saturday. I've been going to games for 20+ years now and I've never felt the kind of heat that I felt on Saturday. The only other game I can remember resembling how hot it was Saturday was UAB in 14. My mother got light headed as they were headed out of the stadium and I doubt my parents will be going back until it cools off and I know they aren't the only ones that have voiced those concerns. Even if we have to put off the endzone for a couple of more years I'm starting to come around to the idea of some type of cover over the top of the stadium. I know it wont alleviate all the problems, but to even lower the temps by 10 degrees or so would make a great difference.

[basedog]

How do you know much money we have?

We've done the revenue vs expenses on here. Also, I don't think what I'm asking for is a terribly expensive project compared to building Dudy Noble or other projects we've done.

Why do MSU fans that have no clue how much money we have constantly say we don't have any money?

How expenses could it be to add some roofs & fans to DWS?

10 mil? maybe 20 mil max?

Shotgun, after 100 years of football and you are complaining about the University for not providing a shelter to cover much of the stadium is kinda silly, it's been hot and humid since day one. Nothing is gonna change that today, maybe in time they will dome the stadium, but in the mean time we have many projects that need to be upgraded.

Stop with the madness, be happy for what we have, Msu athletic department hasn't been "rich" for many years, how many stadiums in the Sec has covers to protect fans, just curious.

Btw, you make some ok points but come on man! Blaming Msu is not the problem for 11 or 2:30 games, it's TV and Ncaa that is money rich and could care less, I'm pretty sure ALL Msu powers to be are concerned.

[starkvegasdawg]

I will say that I for one was very wrong about the game Saturday. I've been going to games for 20+ years now and I've never felt the kind of heat that I felt on Saturday. The only other game I can remember resembling how hot it was Saturday was UAB in 14. My mother got light headed as they were headed out of the stadium and I doubt my parents will be going back until it cools off and I know they aren't the only ones that have voiced those concerns. Even if we have to put off the endzone for a couple of more years I'm starting to come around to the idea of some type of cover over the top of the stadium. I know it wont alleviate all the problems, but to even lower the temps by 10 degrees or so would make a great difference.

That UAB game was brutal. The only other one I remember that was in the league of UAB and Saturday was when we played Alcorn State a few years earlier.

[ShotgunDawg]

Shotgun, after 100 years of football and you are complaining about the University for not providing a shelter to cover much of the stadium is kinda silly, it's been hot and humid since day one. Nothing is gonna change that today, maybe in time they will dome the stadium, but in the mean time we have many projects that need to be upgraded.

Stop with the madness, be happy for what we have, Msu athletic department hasn't been "rich" for many years, how many stadiums in the Sec has covers to protect fans, just curious.

Btw, you make some ok points but come on man! Blaming Msu is not the problem for 11 or 2:30 games, it's TV and Ncaa that is money rich and could care less, I'm pretty sure ALL Msu powers to be are concerned.

I couldn't care less what the rest of the SEC is doing.

MSU needs to be ahead of the curve, but behind.

I just believe we can be so much more than what we currently are.

[basedog]

No game was as hot back in early 2000 at Memphis, 11 start time and heat index was close to 120, some things just happen in early September. I don't blame fans for not attending games when it's hot, just stay home and watch on TV rather than risk your health especially old and folks who have health issues. I wish the best for all fans especially Msu fans, protect yourself when it comes to health.

[basedog]

I couldn't care less what the rest of the SEC is doing.

MSU needs to be ahead of the curve, but behind.

I just believe we can be so much more than what we currently are.

Maybe so one day, but it want happen for a while, oh say say you don't care about other Sec teams? I see you have answers for a few other stadiums. I don't care about what other stadiums have, I care about safety, IF it's too hot stay inside, It's just that simple, your life is what is important, not a damn football game.

[Maroonthirteen]

A roof would have helped the very top rows of the east side at kickoff but would have useless by half time. A roof would have helped the west upper all game. But the west lower was in full shade by halftime and that side emptied at halftime too.

There are probably a 100 things that will get done at DWS before a roof. One being the whole upper west side needs a total rebuild before a roof is attached to it.

Also thinking down the road, 50-100 years from now, the whole west side needs to be demolished and rebuilt with better sight lines for the lower levels, suites, club sitting, press box and on and on and on.

[StateDawg44]

How do you know much money we have?

We've done the revenue vs expenses on here. Also, I don't think what I'm asking for is a terribly expensive project compared to building Dudy Noble or other projects we've done.

Why do MSU fans that have no clue how much money we have constantly say we don't have any money?

How expenses could it be to add some roofs & fans to DWS?

10 mil? maybe 20 mil max?



It's not from lack of money.

1. It's fair for me to ask, how do yooouuuu know how much money we have??? You are the one throwing out numbers and making shit up. Not me. Your first question is dumb....again.

2. The fact that you believe ED has cracked the case on what our athletic department's revenue vs. expense is possibly the most laughable idiotic thing posted. You are even more out of touch that I think a lot of us on here realize if you honestly believe that.

The rest of your questions I cannot answer. Just like you can't, so take your assumptions and shove them. There are a ton of other projects that can and will be done before we get some big shade cover with fans.



And don't ignore my question, I know you saw it... Did you or didn't you go to the game and experience the heat that you are so up in arms about whining and crying for attention about? If you don't respond (and I'm sure you won't) I'm just going to say no, you DID NOT go. You just like to bitch and that is all you are here for. Go 17 yourself.

[ShotgunDawg]

A roof would have helped the very top rows of the east side at kickoff but would have useless by half time. A roof would have helped the west upper all game. But the west lower was in full shade by halftime and that side emptied at halftime too.

There are probably a 100 things that will get done at DWS before a roof. One being the whole upper west side needs a total rebuild before a roof is attached to it.

Also thinking down the road, 50-100 years from now, the whole west side needs to be demolished and rebuilt with better sight lines for the lower levels, suites, club sitting, press box and on and on and on.

I'd just tear the west upper deck down & bowl in the southendzone. I think people would much rather sit in the soutendzone in a bowled in stadium than in the upper deck

[ShotgunDawg]

It's not from lack of money.

1. It's fair for me to ask, how do yooouuuu know how much money we have??? You are the one throwing out numbers and making shit up. Not me. Your first question is dumb....again.

2. The fact that you believe ED has cracked the case on what our athletic department's revenue vs. expense is possibly the most laughable idiotic thing posted. You are even more out of touch that I think a lot of us on here realize if you honestly believe that.

The rest of your questions I cannot answer. Just like you can't, so take your assumptions and shove them. There are a ton of other projects that can and will be done before we get some big shade cover with fans.



And don't ignore my question, I know you saw it... Did you or didn't you go to the game and experience the heat that you are so up in arms about whining and crying for attention about? If you don't respond (and I'm sure you won't) I'm just going to say no, you DID NOT go. You just like to bitch and that is all you are here for. Go 17 yourself.

I'm not just throwing shit out. We've linked numerous articles with our expenses & revenue numbers in them along with numerous other articles on projected revenue. This isn't made up &, if those numbers aren't accurate, then that is MSU's problem for not reporting correct figures. Not mine

[StateDawg44]

You do realize just knowing what MSU made and what MSU spent that year doesn't solidify your argument.

You don't know where money is being allocatated for future projects and what is going on or in the works. It's not like we have the money published in articles just sitting in the bank untouched, waiting to be spent.

[ShotgunDawg]

You do realize just knowing what MSU made and what MSU spent that year doesn't solidify your argument.

You don't know where money is being allocatated for future projects and what is going on or in the works. It's not like we have the money published in articles just sitting in the bank untouched, waiting to be spent.

Correct. I don't sit in meetings & know this stuff. That would be an accurate statement.

Doesn't mean that we can't have a rough idea of what we're working with & have conversations about where it should be allocated

You know, we could say the same thing about our football team. When Stevens incompletes a pass, people blame him. But how do you know the WR ran the right route? Were you in team offensive meetings?

If we just relied on complete information to have discussions, then we'd never be able to talk

[StateDawg44]

Correct. I don't sit in meetings & know this stuff. That would be an accurate statement.

Doesn't mean that we can't have a rough idea of what we're working with & have conversations about where it should be allocated

You know, we could say the same thing about our football team. When Stevens incompletes a pass, people blame him. But how do you know the WR ran the right route? Were you in team offensive meetings?

If we just relied on complete information to have discussions, then we'd never be able to talk



So spewing inaccurate hypothetical info. is the other option and only way we can create discussions now?

And no, YOU can say that about our football team. Don't lump me in with the "people" that blame a specific player for an incomplete pass, wrong route, missed block, busted play or loss. That is one play out of many in a game. There does have to be accountability but they are human still. Expecting perfection is your own fault if that's what you choose to do. It would be nice, but highly unlikely. I've posted many times that the players and coaches make up a team and are all responsible for the outcome. Very rarely can one player or even two players be the only ones at fault for a loss or close call. Some have a little more control but ultimately they are part of a team. That is just part of the game and playing a team sport. Mistakes are made that affect all players and coaches. It's up to the team to live or die by those mistakes. Not some message board hero that is totally insignificant to the decisions that go on before, during or after a game.

Just like you said. I can agree with 99.99% confidence that no one on this board was in the huddle. But I don't blame particular players because I choose to give them the opportunity to correct a mistake and capitalize when they get the ball again on the next play.


The athletic department is a business. They do in fact rely on complete information. They aren't playing in the stock market.

[ShotgunDawg]

So spewing inaccurate hypothetical info.

I only spew reported information & work off that foundation. Blame the inaccuracy of the reporting, not me.

[StateDawg44]

I only spew reported information & work off that foundation. Blame the inaccuracy of the reporting, not me.

The reporting isn't inaccurate. We spent and made a set amount. That is a definite answer.

They didn't report our AD's account balance and future plans or renovation projects or costs of said projects. I seriously doubt when January 2, 2019 came, Cohen and company sat down and started planning 2020 projects. This is all planned and laid out years in advance. And you think they should suddenly put it all on hold and change it for some roof and helicopter blade fans because it was unfortunately hot (but not unheard of) for some random game in September?

[ShotgunDawg]

The reporting isn't inaccurate. We spent and made a set amount. That is a definite answer.

They didn't report our AD's account balance and future plans or renovation projects or costs of said projects. I seriously doubt when January 2, 2019 came, Cohen and company sat down and started planning 2020 projects. This is all planned and laid out years in advance. And you think they should suddenly put it all on hold and change it for some roof and helicopter blade fans because it was unfortunately hot (but not unheard of) for some random game in September?

I don't disagree with you at all, but until ground is broken, priorities can change. I'm sure they have plans, but DWS needs updated & quickly. It needs to be prioritized immdiately

[RocketDawg]

I'd just tear the west upper deck down & bowl in the southendzone. I think people would much rather sit in the soutendzone in a bowled in stadium than in the upper deck

I'm not so sure about that, but I question why they didn't make the east side upper to at least appear to be symmetrical to the exisiting west side upper. There's something to be said for symmetry, especially if you get to the point of bowling in the south end, with an upper deck. That's not happening anytime soon, but it might eventually.

[BoomBoom]

I only spew reported information & work off that foundation. Blame the inaccuracy of the reporting, not me.

It would cost more than you think, because they charge a healthy premium for the seats already in the shade. Shade most of the stadium, and they can't charge that premium anymore, resulting in lost revenue on top of the construction cost.

That having been said, screens like soccer stadiums have used are the best solution. Effective and much cheaper than a roof. Design them right and you can deploy them when needed without having to leave them up permanently, which negates the need to storm proof them.