Nigel Knott

[Fader21]

No longer on Alabama's team, due to being medically disqualified. Never heard of this.

[TUSK]

No longer on Alabama's team, due to being medically disqualified. Never heard of this.

I read hadn’t practiced since spring & has a health issue that won’t allow him to football.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Tua sprains an ankle: the Bama medical staff gives him cutting edge treatment and he plays the next Saturday.

cornerback buried on depth chart who is a bust sprains an ankle: the Bama medical staff declares him not fit to play ever again, and his scholarship is freed up for another player.

Injuries can be funny. Huge loss for Bama***

[BeardoMSU]

Tua sprains an ankle: the Bama medical staff gives him cutting edge treatment and he plays the next Saturday.

cornerback buried on depth chart who is a bust sprains an ankle: the Bama medical staff declares him not fit to play ever again, and his scholarship is freed up for another player.

Injuries can be funny. Huge loss for Bama***

That's ****ing depressing reading it that way...

[TUSK]

Tua sprains an ankle: the Bama medical staff gives him cutting edge treatment and he plays the next Saturday.

cornerback buried on depth chart who is a bust sprains an ankle: the Bama medical staff declares him not fit to play ever again, and his scholarship is freed up for another player.

Injuries can be funny. Huge loss for Bama***

I’ll trade em for Mini Pack Tickets.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

That's ****ing depressing reading it that way...

I can assure you that Saban has taken some underperforming players and processed them medically to free up a scholarship. He's the King at doing it. He's a helluva coach, he's won a gazillion games, but he's ruthless.

[Cooterpoot]

Who cares really? Knot was never very good.

[defiantdog]

Is this still based off his knee injury last year?

[GeorgeKaplan]

That's ****ing depressing reading it that way...

Bama gonna bama.

They do they same in late recruiting, too.

Speaking of...thanks for Abram, Tusk. Would have done well against Clemson yeah.

[BeardoMSU]

Who cares really? Knot was never very good.

Well, to be fair even guys like Slay have to be given the opportunity, and sometimes aren't who they eventually become at the start. Knot was pretty much buried behind 5* DBs since he got there.

[Jack Lambert]

Tua sprains an ankle: the Bama medical staff gives him cutting edge treatment and he plays the next Saturday.

cornerback buried on depth chart who is a bust sprains an ankle: the Bama medical staff declares him not fit to play ever again, and his scholarship is freed up for another player.

Injuries can be funny. Huge loss for Bama***

Saban has always been accused of putting guy on medical scholarship to free up spots. Here is an old article.

https://www.al.com/sports/2010/09/saban_defends_alabamas_use_of.html

[BeardoMSU]

Saban has always been accused of putting guy on medical scholarship to free up spots.

I'll be sitting on the edge of my chair waiting on the CL article ripping him for this barbaric practice....

[Cooterpoot]

Well, to be fair even guys like Slay have to be given the opportunity, and sometimes aren't who they eventually become at the start. Knot was pretty much buried behind 5* DBs since he got there.

He was a smallish athlete who was never a P5 kid.

[Jack Lambert]

I'll be sitting on the edge of my chair waiting on the CL article ripping him for this barbaric practice....

I like the fact that the school can do this because a guy can really get hurt and does not have to lose his ride but it was funny (not funny way) that Bama did it more then every one else.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Who cares really? Knot was never very good.

Which is exactly why his injury is more likely to be a career ending one.

[BeardoMSU]

He was a smallish athlete who was never a P5 kid.

I don't know the kid, but I do remember people melting that signing day, and Knott, as a MS 4 star DB, had a lot to do with it.

Knott, coupled with that big DT and Lashley, it was quite the somber morning. I even got banned by a certain sensitive poster that day; that is until another poster overruled it an hour later.

Fun times.

[Cooterpoot]

Yeah, they bought what the recruiting sites were selling. Sort of like this year when they were telling everyone how Payton was a stud, and then he barely played. Those sites sell excitement and it’s orchestrated in many cases.

[TUSK]

I don't know the kid, but I do remember people melting that signing day, and Knott, as a MS 4 star DB, had a lot to do with it.

Knott, coupled with that big DT and Lashley, it was quite the somber morning. I even got banned by a certain sensitive poster that day; that is until another poster overruled it an hour later.

Fun times.

Heck, this should be good news for y'all, then...

(Provided Saban is "processing" a "healthy kid" that will be in the transfer portal...)

You're welcome?

[GeorgeKaplan]

Heck, this should be good news for y'all, then...

(Provided Saban is "processing" a "healthy kid" that will be in the transfer portal...)

You're welcome?

Man, it's almost like you don't need any referee help at all. Good for you!

Here's a tip: holding and block-in-the-back calls suck.

[Johnson85]

Heck, this should be good news for y'all, then...

(Provided Saban is "processing" a "healthy kid" that will be in the transfer portal...)

You're welcome?

I'm not sure exactly how it works, but I think him taking the "medical" processing is Knott deciding that he'd rather stay at Bama on scholarship than transfer and play somewhere else. I imagine if they didn't get the player's buy-in that they wanted to stay at Bama on scholarship rather than transfer, it would result in some embarrassing publicity when they entered the transfer portal afterwards. This probably confirms what alot of people claimed at the time, which was that Knott was a hell of an athlete but didn't love football or contact. I suspect if he loved football he'd be playing at a different school.

I wonder if he had grown up in a more populated area if he would have ended up playing something like soccer instead of football and liking it more.

[BB30]

Yea, he would definitely be transferring if he felt like he could continue his career somewhere else. If the kid is staying at bama he probably has a reason for doing so, either he decided he was done playing and didn't want to do it anymore or he really had a pretty severe injury that just didn't heal up properly.

[Homedawg]

I'm not sure exactly how it works, but I think him taking the "medical" processing is Knott deciding that he'd rather stay at Bama on scholarship than transfer and play somewhere else. I imagine if they didn't get the player's buy-in that they wanted to stay at Bama on scholarship rather than transfer, it would result in some embarrassing publicity when they entered the transfer portal afterwards. This probably confirms what alot of people claimed at the time, which was that Knott was a hell of an athlete but didn't love football or contact. I suspect if he loved football he'd be playing at a different school.

I wonder if he had grown up in a more populated area if he would have ended up playing something like soccer instead of football and liking it more.

Maybe he's actually hurt. It happens.

[TUSK]

Maybe he's actually hurt. It happens.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiK-E81CUAAhOt1.jpg

[Apoplectic]

hmmmm saban slowly closing that wide gap on dabo. he just needs to start baptizing more sinners after practice to really make a difference

[TUSK]

hmmmm saban slowly closing that wide gap on dabo. he just needs to start baptizing more sinners after practice to really make a difference

Nice.

We could all use a New Spring Church to give these 'cruits the heppin' they need....

[Johnson85]

Maybe he's actually hurt. It happens.

It happens, but how many career ending injuries have MSU players suffered in the last ten years? And career ending in "no longer fit to play college football", not career ending as in got injured in their last year of eligibility and weren't good enough to play past college?

I think without inside knowledge, the assumption with any medical processing at Bama should be that it's just a way to keep the kids on scholarship without them having to transfer (which I have no objection to), not an actual career ending injury.

[TUSK]

It happens, but how many career ending injuries have MSU players suffered in the last ten years? And career ending in "no longer fit to play college football", not career ending as in got injured in their last year of eligibility and weren't good enough to play past college?

I think without inside knowledge, the assumption with any medical processing at Bama should be that it's just a way to keep the kids on scholarship without them having to transfer (which I have no objection to), not an actual career ending injury.

Yep... It allows the kid to stay in school (free) while opening up his scholarship for someone else... I guess it's better than not renewing his scholarship...

And if he really believes he can still play, the transfer portal is available...

[GoDawgz]

Its sad, but its another wasted Mississippi kid that went out of state. I know its the kids choice to leave the state and go where they want to go, after all its still at this moment a free country......but I wonder what the list looks like with kids that actually have valuable playing time vs never see the field.
Wish him the best.

[Schultzy]

I know recruiting highly rated players is important but this is why I don’t sweat it as long as we get our share of 3 & 4 star guys.

Who would’ve taken Teveze Calhoun over this guy?

Or Deion Calhoun over the high 3* Dandy Dozen OL everybody wanted that chose Auburn over us?

I’d still rather sign higher rated guys but it’s such a crapshoot.

[SheltonChoked]

I can assure you that Saban has taken ALL underperforming players and processed them medically to free up a NCAA counted scholarship. He's the King at doing it. He's a helluva coach, he's won a gazillion games, but he's ruthless.


FIFY

This is THE way Saban "Processes out" players. They still can get a athletic Scholarship, but it doesn't count towards the 85....


NCAA Bylaw 15.5.1.3.1 ? Incapacitating Injury or Illness.If an incapacitating injury or illness occurs prior to a student-athlete's participation in athletically related activities and results in thestudent-athlete's inability to compete ever again, the student-athlete shall not be counted within the institution's maximum financial aidaward limitations for the current, as well as subsequent, academic years. However, if the incapacitating injury or illness occurs on orafter the student-athlete's participation in countable athletically related activities in the sport, the student-athlete shall be counted in theinstitution's maximum financial aid limitations for the current academic year but need not be counted in subsequent academic years.

It's shocking how many of Alabama's Processed out players, have severe career ending injuries...******************

[SheltonChoked]

Heck, this should be good news for y'all, then...

(Provided Saban is "processing" a "healthy kid" that will be in the transfer portal...)

You're welcome?

Bama cannot let an athlete do that. If they do, the scholarship is counted back to the 85 limit. Retroactively.

If they take this, they are done.


NCAA Bylaw 15.5.1.3.2 ? Change in Circumstances.If circumstances change and the student-athlete subsequently practices or competes at the institution at which the incapacitating injuryor illness occurred, the student-athlete again shall become a counter, and the institution shall be required to count that financial aidunder the limitations of this bylaw in the sport in question during each academic year in which the financial aid was received.

[TUSK]

Bama cannot let an athlete do that. If they do, the scholarship is counted back to the 85 limit. Retroactively.

If they take this, they are done.

This is correct, however, they don't have to take a medical, do they? Is the transfer portal not an option?

Also, how many is a "shocking number" of Medicals to give? I honestly don't know how many Bammer has handed out since Saban's first ~3 years when he was allegedly "culling" some of Shula's guys...

[SheltonChoked]

Heck, this should be good news for y'all, then...

(Provided Saban is "processing" a "healthy kid" that will be in the transfer portal...)

You're welcome?

Saban still would have to give him a release to transfer, or he loses 2 years of eligibility. He is a red shirt JR. He only has 2 years of eligibility left.... no release means he can never play...

And Alabama has to count his scholarship towards it's 85...
Or

He could stay at Bama, on a non NCAA counted scholarship... And never play college football again....

Hell of a racket...

[TUSK]

Saban still would have to give him a release to transfer, or he loses 2 years of eligibility. He is a red shirt JR. He only has 2 years of eligibility left.... no release means he can never play...

And Alabama has to count his scholarship towards it's 85...
Or

He could stay at Bama, on a non NCAA counted scholarship... And never play college football again....

Hell of a racket...

yup, it's unfortunate that this tactic isn't available everywhere...*

[MaroonFlounder]

It sucks. I think he would have had a significant role at MSU.

Just like when the Bear brought 100 kids a year to T town to keep them away from opposing team's rosters (before the days of scholarship limitations), Bama football makes sure the competitive gap is a decisive advantage in their favor.

It is what it is.

[Cooterpoot]

Its sad, but its another wasted Mississippi kid that went out of state. I know its the kids choice to leave the state and go where they want to go, after all its still at this moment a free country......but I wonder what the list looks like with kids that actually have valuable playing time vs never see the field.
Wish him the best.

I can’t think of one kid who went out of state and was a bust who would’ve helped us. Technically he wasn’t a bust though because he wasn’t that good anyway.

[Homedawg]

I can’t think of one kid who went out of state and was a bust who would’ve helped us. Technically he wasn’t a bust though because he wasn’t that good anyway.

Why is it automatically assumed that if a kid is a bust at bama or wherever, that he would have helped us? I'm sure some would have had some role. But some wouldn't plate here either....

[Cooterpoot]

It’s not assumed. The kid could cut back flips but he was never a great DB. He was also undersized. Lashley wouldn’t start for us either. He’d be depth. Terry Grant wouldn’t have helped us. Brennan wouldn’t. Those guys that don’t work out generally just aren’t that good.

[Homedawg]

It’s not assumed. The kid could cut back flips but he was never a great DB. He was also undersized. Lashley wouldn’t start for us either. He’d be depth. Terry Grant wouldn’t have helped us. Brennan wouldn’t. Those guys that don’t work out generally just aren’t that good.
I was agreeing w you. Meaning most others assume that.

[SheltonChoked]

yup, it's unfortunate that this tactic isn't available everywhere...*

Yeah, sucks that some programs care about players****

I'm sure the recruiting videos hsow all the 5 stars who never get to play anywhere due to "Injuries"****

[SheltonChoked]

This is correct, however, they don't have to take a medical, do they? Is the transfer portal not an option?

Also, how many is a "shocking number" of Medicals to give? I honestly don't know how many Bammer has handed out since Saban's first ~3 years when he was allegedly "culling" some of Shula's guys...

More than anyone else does...

https://www.thewizofodds.com/the_wiz_of_odds/2010/09/alabamas-use-of-medical-hardships-is-questioned.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703384204575509901468451306

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/05/i-trusted-em-when-ncaa-schools-abandon-their-injured-athletes/275407/

[Lord McBuckethead]

Lashley would be starting after 2 years in our system.

[Cooterpoot]

Lashley would be starting after 2 years in our system.

He’d simply be depth.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

No longer on Alabama's team, due to being medically disqualified. Never heard of this.

It's a condition that develops when every year a fresh crop of mid 4 to 5 stat talent comes in and it buries you deeper on the depth chart.