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Coach34
10-25-2013, 09:32 AM
1. Always love getting a win. Especially the first SEC win of the season. 4-3 on the season now, with a couple of extra days to get ready for SC. SC is playing their 3rd road game in a row @ Mizzou.

2. Dakota continues to show that he is going to be the best QB to ever strap on a State uniform. It is so much fun watching a true dual-threat out there on the field for us. He came out and led 2 beautiful drives to start the game. Avoiding the rush and hitting MoJo deep was outstanding- altho I'm surprised MoJo didnt drop it. He picked up big 1st downs. He is the leader this team needs more of.

3. This offense is on pace to set a school record for total yards per game. The record is 422 per game from 1982's John Bond led offense that had a losing record. We are currently at 456 ypg with 5 games left to go. I've seen some people reference Crooms offense and playcalling in relation to this offense and that is laughable. I dont think Crooms ever had an offense average 300 yards per game. We had 296 yards at halftime last night. Stop making yourself look stupid people by making those kinds of comparisons.

4. Why play Russell and kill all of our momentum last night? This is the SEC- not the ****ing Everybody-Gets-A-Turn League. When you have the chance to pull away, you do it. I dont care that Mullen told Russell he was coming in on the 3rd series. Choose your words better. Tell him you "are planning to put him in for the 3rd series, but will see how the game goes". I really dont mind Russell playing some- but not to the detriment of the team and season. This is Dakota's offense- stop ****ing up the rhythm when it is going well.

5. 296 yards at half- we had 19 runs and 18 passes. So what do we do to open the 2nd half? We call 8 passes in our first 10 plays. This is what I dont understand. Why get cute and do all of that shit? Why not open with another balanced drive and get the ball down the field so we can score and get some more cushion? We scored on the 3rd drive of the 2nd half-5 runs and 2 passes- but it took wasting 2 drives to get there. We look great on offense in the 1st half- that means we gameplan well and do a really good job of predicting how the defense is going to play us. The 2nd half is not about teams adjusting to us as much as it is us doing it to ourselves.

6. Perkins had a 35 yard run to start the game- and then he had 11 carries for 30 yards the rest of the game. JRob had 4 carries for 19 yards. JRob runs hard and falls forward. He showed that on the 3rd and 10 screen pass he caught and they had him stopped 2 yards short- but since JRob runs hard and pushes forward- he got those 2 yards and moved the chains. Why we absolutely refuse to give JRob 10 carries or more in a game is one of the world's great mysteries. I've said it before- it's like we take him out so he won't continue to show up Perkins in the run game. Perkins is going to be on an NFL roster as a 3rd down back- and that is how we should use him. It's a crime what we are doing to Robinson right now.

7. I no longer blame Russell or Prescott for sacks on 3rd and long. It's an offense problem. We dont have any quick hots or anything built into the offense. That last sack on Prescott we had WR's running 15 yard plus routes and their backs were turned to the QB when Prescott got pummeled. They didnt have a clue that he needed to get rid of the ball. Teams see that on film and are coming after us on 3rd and long- they dont back and cover very often. An adjustment has got to made there. Even if you throw it short and complete a 5 td pass, get tackled and have to punt- it's still better than getting sacked.

8. I'd like to thank the refs for taking Whitley off the field for us. Our coaches obviously arent going to do it. I've seen enough penalties, stupid mistakes, missed tackles, and terrible coverage out of Whitley for his career. It's enough. Market made a game saving tackle- I dont think Whitley makes that play. I would be willing to take my chances with Market full-time going forward. Hopefully the SEC suspends Whitley for next week also- it would enhance our chances of winning.

9. Our DB's certainly have looked better with Redmond on the field so far. Having JLove healthy is huge also. I now have hope the Secondary can compete as long as Love can stay healthy.

10. Why do we wait until the game is on the line to bring real pressure? We have done this 2 games in a row now. It would be nice to see some of it earlier in the game.

11. Devon Bell is likely to make 400-500K in the NFL as a kick-off Specialist- but that is all he should be doing. How bad must Sobiesk be that he doesnt get a shot to kick? Why is Bell punting? Punter is actually one position that we havent had to worry about. Why fix something that wasnt broken?

12. Clayborn looked pretty good at RG. Good job by Hev on him- I like us getting MAIS linemen. Intelligence is one thing that cant be overlooked on the OL.

13. Too many dropped passes last night. Tubby had one- Malcolm had three. Absolutely killing us. Malcolm, in spite of his TD, has been a huge disappointment.

5 games left. SC is up next. We need to have a good performance and find a way to be in the game in the 4th Q next Saturday. I havent heard anything from any Big Dawgs yet, but the chatter filtering down is that Mullen is coaching for his job the last 5 games whether he knows it or not. The Egg Bowl is must-win for him. I'm excited to watch it all play out- starting next Saturday.

Bo Darville
10-25-2013, 09:41 AM
4. Why play Russell and kill all of our momentum last night? This is the SEC- not the ****ing Everybody-Gets-A-Turn League. When you have the chance to pull away, you do it.

6. JRob had 4 carries for 19 yards. JRob runs hard and falls forward. He showed that on the 3rd and 10 screen pass he caught and they had him stopped 2 yards short- but since JRob runs hard and pushes forward- he got those 2 yards and moved the chains. Why we absolutely refuse to give JRob 10 carries or more in a game is one of the world's great mysteries.

12. Clayborn looked pretty good at RG. Good job by Hev on him- I like us getting MAIS linemen. Intelligence is one thing that cant be overlooked on the OL.


#4 and #6 are glaring. I can't understand why Mullen doesn't see this. It is staring everyone in the face.

Agreed on Clayborn. Big, thick butt and legs. Wide body. Has some nastiness. Looked very good for a true freshman.

FlabLoser
10-25-2013, 09:45 AM
That last sack on Prescott we had WR's running 15 yard plus routes and their backs were turned to the QB when Prescott got pummeled. They didnt have a clue that he needed to get rid of the ball. Teams see that on film and are coming after us on 3rd and long- they dont back and cover very often. An adjustment has got to made there. Even if you throw it short and complete a 5 td pass, get tackled and have to punt- it's still better than getting sacked.

Also thought the play caller gets some blame there. In a one possession game the only thing we can't do there is take a sack. We took a sack. We needed an easy checkdown there to prevent a sack.

Or maybe our checkdown got audibled to stay in and block - I'm not sure.

MarketingBully01
10-25-2013, 09:46 AM
Great points, we have to fix #11 too. Having even a serviceable FG kicker would be a big time upgrade. Bell could have cost us that game yesterday and had effects in 3 of our games so far this year on top of that one. 2-2 in those games. In order to be where we want to be, we have to find someone else to kick field goals. Hopefully, we use this extra time and have a surprise for the ole ball coach next Saturday.

CadaverDawg
10-25-2013, 09:49 AM
Good write up coach.

camsu
10-25-2013, 10:01 AM
1. This is now Dak's team. Period. Prior to game, he told Tyler he would play the 3rd series, that's his word and kept it. That was important. TR did not play 2nd half. I would be surprised if Dak is doing well, to see TR rest of the season.
2. We have our 2 starting OGuards for next yr. Clyborn/Malone. So our 2 JUCO will fight out for RT and backup on the line. That was great getting him in the game and he did an excellent job.
3. We have found our TE, freshman Samuel. Great catch and even better blocking on the corner with no Flags. Those two flags on Warren hurt.
4. Love and Redmond but entire DB stepped up and played well. What a tackle by Market. DBs are coming into their on
5. We need Quay, I hope he gets it together this week.
6. DAK has to see the field and get rid of the ball, those 2 huge sacks were on him.
7. We WON WE WON, we are improving and if you can play you play. That was Mullen putting in the best players not just upper classman.

WE WON

Coach34
10-25-2013, 10:08 AM
I think some of our people bitch alot because they are betting on us and are losing their ass doing it

Squidawg11
10-25-2013, 10:09 AM
Good post. Would like to add that Samuel is going to be a heck of a player for us at TE. Looked good blocking and used his hands well catching the ball.

camsu
10-25-2013, 10:15 AM
34 - think you are right, plus we want "glory" win, not just win. Heck we won we are on track and moving forward.

Jacksondevildog
10-25-2013, 10:18 AM
Number 8 was absolutely spot on. The best thing for us was to have Whitley get kicked out and improve our defense. He's horrible.

Goat Holder
10-25-2013, 10:19 AM
I don't think Mullen is coaching for his job at all, now that he won that game. We will win the Egg Bowl and all will be OK.

rtdawg
10-25-2013, 10:23 AM
Coach-regarding #4, I didn't really have a problem bringing Tyler in there. I had a huge problem with the fact that we got to 3rd and 1 and left Tyler in and ran a dumb ass play for a loss. Why in the hell do we not run Dak out there on the 3rd and 1???? No question in my mind we would have gotten it if we did. Just so many head scratchers in regards to our play calling at times.....

Coach34
10-25-2013, 10:25 AM
I don't think Mullen is coaching for his job at all, now that he won that game. We will win the Egg Bowl and all will be OK.

Not what is being spread by the underlings right now- word is 6-6 and/or win the Egg Bowl

Op4isabitch
10-25-2013, 10:31 AM
[/B]72657] I havent heard anything from any Big Dawgs yet, but the chatter filtering down is that Mullen is coaching for his job the last 5 games whether he knows it or not. The Egg Bowl is must-win for him. I'm excited to watch it all play out- starting next Saturday.

Then I must say, it was a fun 5 years and I wish him well in his future endeavors.

BankerDog
10-25-2013, 10:40 AM
I just don't get it. The guy has been the best coach we've ever had here. 3 straight bowl games and only one losing season. His recruiting in my eyes is pretty good. Do our fans not realize how bad that looks on us if we want to fire a guy a year after he has has taken us to three straight bowl games? Coaches don't want to have to deal with that. Does Mullen do stupid crap? Yeah, but so does Cohen and every other coach. You can't expect him to have a high recruiting class...we're own probation damnit. If we get caught again it'll get worse.

Also, have it on good authority that Keonning calls the plays not Dan. Those first few series you see where we look so damn good, it's because Dan scripted it not Keonning.

tcdog70
10-25-2013, 10:41 AM
Dan , had that panic look in His eyes the second half. Stupid plays
1. the run with Tyler on third and one.(he got hurt) might rank in top 5 stupidest of alltime
2. we have a great punter, so we put Mr. Choke in the end zone to punt. WTF did Dan think was going to happen.
3.We never ran 34 north and south but chose to run east and west with 27 when KY had 8 men in the box
4. we have no hot route or screens on third and longs.
5. we refuse to put a qb under center with RB on short yardage
6.we keep playing a base defense expecting pressure to magically appear.
7. 17, let Him kick the long FG instead of going for it --Blind Hog Theory.
8. everytime KY has beaten Us it has been with special teams, so we look lost on the onside kick. thank God for offsides.
they kick 2 FGs, we miss 1, we give up a safety,then kick a line drive that results in 6 points.Then we a scared shitless to try a FG and get sacked

tcdog70
10-25-2013, 10:43 AM
Not what is being spread by the underlings right now- word is 6-6 and/or win the Egg Bowl

good call, I wish His Ass was History this morning

Coach34
10-25-2013, 10:44 AM
. Do our fans not realize how bad that looks on us if we want to fire a guy a year after he has has taken us to three straight bowl games? Coaches don't want to have to deal with that.

This is being brought on by 2 things:

1. The Hud love affair. We have some big money guys that think Hud can win as just much as Mullen is- but that it might get be even better because Hud should be, I repeat- should be a better recruiter. They feel Hud is low risk-high reward.

2. Hugh Freezus and the attention OM is getting.

tcdog70
10-25-2013, 10:45 AM
I just don't get it. The guy has been the best coach we've ever had here. 3 straight bowl games and only one losing season. His recruiting in my eyes is pretty good. Do our fans not realize how bad that looks on us if we want to fire a guy a year after he has has taken us to three straight bowl games? Coaches don't want to have to deal with that. Does Mullen do stupid crap? Yeah, but so does Cohen and every other coach. You can't expect him to have a high recruiting class...we're own probation damnit. If we get caught again it'll get worse.

Also, have it on good authority that Keonning calls the plays not Dan. Those first few series you see where we look so damn good, it's because Dan scripted it not Keonning.

boy that sounds like a winner--"We can't expect Him to have a High recruiting Class" why the 17 not??

SignalToNoise
10-25-2013, 10:47 AM
3. This offense is on pace to set a school record for total yards per game. The record is 422 per game from 1982's John Bond led offense that had a losing record. We are currently at 456 ypg with 5 games left to go. I've seen some people reference Crooms offense and playcalling in relation to this offense and that is laughable. I dont think Crooms ever had an offense average 300 yards per game. We had 296 yards at halftime last night. Stop making yourself look stupid people by making those kinds of comparisons.

Remember last year when people were all in a lather about TR setting school records in the passing game? We were told (by you) that didn't matter because a lot of other QBs in the FBS could have broken those same records.
The same concept applies to our offense. Might be good in the history of MSU, but it's not a world-beating system, especially with all the crazy personnel uses and boneheaded play calling that we see from time to time.

I agree that comparing it to Croom's is stupid, but saying it's great just because it's breaking records from the John Bond day's doesn't mean it's going to set the world on fire.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
10-25-2013, 10:49 AM
I just don't get it. The guy has been the best coach we've ever had here. 3 straight bowl games and only one losing season. His recruiting in my eyes is pretty good. Do our fans not realize how bad that looks on us if we want to fire a guy a year after he has has taken us to three straight bowl games? Coaches don't want to have to deal with that. Does Mullen do stupid crap? Yeah, but so does Cohen and every other coach. You can't expect him to have a high recruiting class...we're own probation damnit. If we get caught again it'll get worse.

Also, have it on good authority that Keonning calls the plays not Dan. Those first few series you see where we look so damn good, it's because Dan scripted it not Keonning.
Who really gives a **** how it looks on us? He's lost his fire and this team lacks discipline, which is HIS fault. How bad does it look on us when one of his senior players gets ejected for throwing punches?

BankerDog
10-25-2013, 10:50 AM
But who has Hud got at ULL? I know several guys he lost to USM, LAST YEAR. The only guy ULL has got that we missed out on is Trae Johnson from Mendenhall. That was on Diaz. The last point I have is Hud lost to Freeze in 2011. Freeze's offense put more yards and caused Hud's offense to have 5 turnovers. The guy has never won the SunBelt in the 4 years he has been there.

Coach34
10-25-2013, 10:52 AM
Remember last year when people were all in a lather about TR setting school records in the passing game? We were told (by you) that didn't matter because a lot of other QBs in the FBS could have broken those same records.
The same concept applies to our offense. Might be good in the history of MSU, but it's not a world-beating system, especially with all the crazy personnel uses and boneheaded play calling that we see from time to time.

I agree that comparing it to Croom's is stupid, but saying it's great just because it's breaking records from the John Bond day's doesn't mean it's going to set the world on fire.

Not saying it great- I didnt use great once in that whole paragraph. But we are in the top half of the conference.

Last year we were 80th in the country in Total O- this year we are 36th currently

CadaverDawg
10-25-2013, 10:53 AM
This is being brought on by 2 things:

1. The Hud love affair. We have some big money guys that think Hud can win as just much as Mullen is- but that it might get be even better because Hud should be, I repeat- should be a better recruiter. They feel Hud is low risk-high reward.

2. Hugh Freezus and the attention OM is getting.

Or the fact that we are heading downhill with no signs of improving. But yea, you guys can keep blaming it on Hud and Freeze if you want.

Look, if we had beaten BG and UK convincingly like we should have, and we had competed for 4 quarters against what appears to be good, but not great, OK St and LSU teams....I would be fine with the fact that we blew the Auburn game. But instead we scored 3 after an entire off season of preparation against a BIG12 Defense, blew Auburn, Didn't show up for the 4th quarter against LSU at home, almost lost to BG, and almost lost to UK. You can paint it out to be as pretty as you want, but the truth is that while our talent has improved over the last 2 years, our coaching has gotten worse. And that goes for in game coaching, and preparation for each game.

So again, you can act like it's Hud and Freeze bringing this on, but it's not. It's the fact that our fans do not want to watch us spiral down the toilet the next few years when the writing is on the wall RIGHT NOW. And yes, it would be great to have a fiery coach that wants to be here waiting in the wings....but Hud is not being discussed if Dan is doing his job, period.

BankerDog
10-25-2013, 10:54 AM
Because we're on ****ing probation. Because our network of boosters like to tell everyone what they did. Our compliance sucks ass. The guys he is bringing in though, while they might not look good on paper, he develops them. It's all about development of players. Some guys top out in high school and get 5 star ratings because of topping out early. But hey you wanna start recruiting like Ole Miss? I will tell you how. Not only do the coaches recruit, but they have their players on twitter talking to recruits weekly. They have fans on twitter showing "love", it's working for UT on Corey Thomas. They have a compliance department, we don't. I can name several of their big money guys but I have never once heard them mention taking care of players. We have fans that will brag about it. You go to a frat party at State, they won't even let some of those guys in. Last year at HC Fletcher Cox couldn't even get in at one and then that debacle with Boobie at Cowbells. It's the little things and if we want to recruit with the big boys, we need to unite as a fan base and go all out on social media, as well educating the frats about recruiting and when to throw big parties.

Nickoe is just a dumbass. Plain and simple. Why he does have the shit he does I don't know why.

BankerDog
10-25-2013, 10:56 AM
I guess my question is why does it have to be Hud? Will you be mad if isn't Hud?

HoopsDawg
10-25-2013, 11:02 AM
I think some of our people bitch alot because they are betting on us and are losing their ass doing it

I can't deny that.

CadaverDawg
10-25-2013, 11:09 AM
I guess my question is why does it have to be Hud? Will you be mad if isn't Hud?

Because Hud is not only one of the best names on the board nationally....he WANTS to be here! Why is this so hard for our fans to understand? It's not just some obsession with an underachieving coach because he rings a cowbell from time to time. This guy is going to be a top candidate nationally after this season. People say "why not shoot for a bigger name?" Like who?? We aren't going to find anybody with a better win percentage, more fire, and most of all that will Want our job.

Dawgface
10-25-2013, 11:10 AM
Or the fact that we are heading downhill with no signs of improving. But yea, you guys can keep blaming it on Hud and Freeze if you want.

Look, if we had beaten BG and UK convincingly like we should have, and we had competed for 4 quarters against what appears to be good, but not great, OK St and LSU teams....I would be fine with the fact that we blew the Auburn game. But instead we scored 3 after an entire off season of preparation against a BIG12 Defense, blew Auburn, Didn't show up for the 4th quarter against LSU at home, almost lost to BG, and almost lost to UK. You can paint it out to be as pretty as you want, but the truth is that while our talent has improved over the last 2 years, our coaching has gotten worse. And that goes for in game coaching, and preparation for each game.

So again, you can act like it's Hud and Freeze bringing this on, but it's not. It's the fact that our fans do not want to watch us spiral down the toilet the next few years when the writing is on the wall RIGHT NOW. And yes, it would be great to have a fiery coach that wants to be here waiting in the wings....but Hud is not being discussed if Dan is doing his job, period.

Nailed it. It's not Mullen's overall achievements, it's all about how we have been trending over the last 12 games or so. A couple of decent efforts thrown in there, but mostly a downward trend. If not, Hud's name would not be brought up.

Eric Nies Grind Time
10-25-2013, 11:18 AM
This is being brought on by 2 things:

1. The Hud love affair. We have some big money guys that think Hud can win as just much as Mullen is- but that it might get be even better because Hud should be, I repeat- should be a better recruiter. They feel Hud is low risk-high reward.

2. Hugh Freezus and the attention OM is getting.

Do you think Hud will be a better recruiter? Also...(not that you are saying it) I don't understand the sentiment that you can't fire a coach if he has taken you to bowl games. It happens every year...coaches get fired even if they have a decent season sometimes.

hacker
10-25-2013, 11:23 AM
I just don't get it. The guy has been the best coach we've ever had here. 3 straight bowl games and only one losing season. His recruiting in my eyes is pretty good. Do our fans not realize how bad that looks on us if we want to fire a guy a year after he has has taken us to three straight bowl games? Coaches don't want to have to deal with that. Does Mullen do stupid crap? Yeah, but so does Cohen and every other coach. You can't expect him to have a high recruiting class...we're own probation damnit. If we get caught again it'll get worse.

Also, have it on good authority that Keonning calls the plays not Dan. Those first few series you see where we look so damn good, it's because Dan scripted it not Keonning.

I want to agree with you, because I feel the same way for the most part, but I just can't. I DID expect him to have a good recruiting class. Who cares about probation. If he was doing what he was supposed to, we'd have a good class. It'd just be smaller.

And Dan obviously calls the plays. You can see him reading the play card calling in plays on the sideline.

Coach34
10-25-2013, 11:25 AM
I dont see how you can fire Mullen if we go 6-6 and makes it to a 4th straight bowl for the 1st time in school history. That means we arent trending downward- but are performing at a higher level than at any other time in our school's history. We have only had one other 4 yr period of non-losing seasons in the modern era- 97-2000.

In addition, this team is young in spots. We will have 16 starters returning with depth, a very good young QB, and the schedule swings back our way. 4 straight bowls and Mullen has earned the right to coach that team in 2014.

Coach34
10-25-2013, 11:26 AM
And Dan obviously calls the plays. You can see him reading the play card calling in plays on the sideline.

Yes- that is not even a question at this point.

CadaverDawg
10-25-2013, 11:27 AM
Do you think Hud will be a better recruiter? Also...(not that you are saying it) I don't understand the sentiment that you can't fire a coach if he has taken you to bowl games. It happens every year...coaches get fired even if they have a decent season sometimes.

You're exactly right. It's the "Mississippi State way" though. You have to put the coach above the program even though he is getting paid 2.7 mil a year. We have to allow a coach to ruin everything he's built before we get rid of him, instead of saying "thank you for getting us to this level Dan, now we're going to try to build off of your success". It's ok for us to want to be better. Dan himself said he raised the expectations and he is glad we expect more now.

We don't have to lose for 2-3 years straight to make a change. Especially is we have our next coach hand picked and he knows the situation. That is just a "poor ole Misipi Tate" way of thinking.

CadaverDawg
10-25-2013, 11:30 AM
I dont see how you can fire Mullen if we go 6-6 and makes it to a 4th straight bowl for the 1st time in school history. That means we arent trending downward- but are performing at a higher level than at any other time in our school's history. We have only had one other 4 yr period of non-losing seasons in the modern era- 97-2000.

In addition, this team is young in spots. We will have 16 starters returning with depth, a very good young QB, and the schedule swings back our way. 4 straight bowls and Mullen has earned the right to coach that team in 2014.

So when Russell sets a school passing record it is just "a MSU record that is not that impressive", but when Mullen sets a school winning record streak against a shitty schedule, it is "worthy of continued support"? You are all over the place man.

Eric Nies Grind Time
10-25-2013, 11:30 AM
Yes, I think a lot of MSU fans...not as many as before which is good...think that we owe these coaches a great deal. **** that, we are paying him a ton of money to perform. We don't owe this guy anything.

CadaverDawg
10-25-2013, 11:31 AM
Yes, I think a lot of MSU fans...not as many as before which is good...think that we owe these coaches a great deal. **** that, we are paying him a ton of money to perform. We don't owe this guy anything.

^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

hacker
10-25-2013, 11:33 AM
But who has Hud got at ULL? I know several guys he lost to USM, LAST YEAR. The only guy ULL has got that we missed out on is Trae Johnson from Mendenhall. That was on Diaz. The last point I have is Hud lost to Freeze in 2011. Freeze's offense put more yards and caused Hud's offense to have 5 turnovers. The guy has never won the SunBelt in the 4 years he has been there.

I mean. I'm still with you. I want to keep Mullen unless we go 4-8. But this post is just wrong. ULL's recruiting is vastly improved. I think Hud recruiting Mississippi kids to ULL is one of the biggest reasons USM has gotten so terrible over the past 2 years. ULL is taking about 5 of the 3-star Mississippi kids that would normally go to USM. Do you really expect him to steal players from an SEC school to ULL on a regular basis?

Irrelevant that he lost to Freeze in his first year.

This is his third year at ULL.

ULL was 3-9 in 2010.

As a matter of fact, just read this.


In his first season as the Ragin' Cajuns' head football coach, Hudspeth led the team to the an 9-4 record, that included a trip and win in the 2011 New Orleans Bowl, against San Diego State. This was the school's first bowl in 41 years.

Again, I'm still in favor of keeping Mullen at this point, but to discredit Hud's accomplishments is just ridiculous.

CadaverDawg
10-25-2013, 11:36 AM
I mean. I'm still with you. I want to keep Mullen unless we go 4-8. But this post is just wrong. ULL's recruiting is vastly improved. I think Hud recruiting Mississippi kids to ULL is one of the biggest reasons USM has gotten so terrible over the past 2 years. ULL is taking about 5 of the 3-star Mississippi kids that would normally go to USM. Do you really expect him to steal players from an SEC school to ULL on a regular basis?

Irrelevant that he lost to Freeze in his first year.

This is his third year at ULL.

ULL was 3-9 in 2010.

As a matter of fact, just read this.



Again, I'm still in favor of keeping Mullen at this point, but to discredit Hud's accomplishments is just ridiculous.

Great post. Especially the part about him taking USM's croots.

Coach34
10-25-2013, 11:42 AM
So when Russell sets a school passing record it is just "a MSU record that is not that impressive", but when Mullen sets a school winning record streak against a shitty schedule, it is "worthy of continued support"? You are all over the place man.

wtf?

Our offense was 80th in the country last year- that's not good.

Our offense is 36th currently- that's good.

We are in the top 40 in the country in wins since 2010. That's good.

I'm not all over the place- you just have trouble processing anything because you are so hellbent on change now.

Eric Nies Grind Time
10-25-2013, 11:45 AM
I want to agree with you, because I feel the same way for the most part, but I just can't. I DID expect him to have a good recruiting class. Who cares about probation. If he was doing what he was supposed to, we'd have a good class. It'd just be smaller.

And Dan obviously calls the plays. You can see him reading the play card calling in plays on the sideline.

I have no idea how well Hud would recruit at State...but he is recruiting about as well as someone could at ULL. They had not made a bowl since 1970!! before Hud got there.

Coach34
10-25-2013, 11:48 AM
I have no idea how well Hud would recruit at State...but he is recruiting about as well as someone could at ULL. They had not made a bowl since 1970!! before Hud got there.

He did that with someone else's recruits- isnt that how it works?

Dawgface
10-25-2013, 11:51 AM
I'm frustrated and want a change too, but I will admit that it will be almost impossible to fire Mullen if we go 6-6 and to a bowl. Just won't happen. And if he does do that, great. I just have a hard time seeing a 6-6 record this year. But time will tell.

CadaverDawg
10-25-2013, 11:51 AM
wtf?

Our offense was 80th in the country last year- that's not good.

Our offense is 36th currently- that's good.

We are in the top 40 in the country in wins since 2010. That's good.

I'm not all over the place- you just have trouble processing anything because you are so hellbent on change now.

No, I am just seeing what is clearly in front of us.

You yourself said that the boosters had quit too, and we're tanking the recruiting class. If that's the case, AND we're seeing regression on the field...why the constant defense of Mullen? Do you seriously see Mullen getting us back to 8 or 9 wins ever again? It's going to take a cream puff schedule like next year for Mullen to ever even have a chance at sniffing 8 wins again the way he's coaching these days. You know it and I know it. I just fail to sit back and wait on us to lose even more ground before making a change. I have read your posts for a long time, and I know you are seeing this....I just can't seem to figure out what the hidden agenda is these days, ha. Because the C34 I'm used to seeing would be driving this change based on the way we've played over the last 12-13 games...not trying to keep what we're seeing.

But whatever. I just completely disagree with you, but I can agree to do so.

CadaverDawg
10-25-2013, 11:54 AM
I'm frustrated and want a change too, but I will admit that it will be almost impossible to fire Mullen if we go 6-6 and to a bowl. Just won't happen. And if he does do that, great. I just have a hard time seeing a 6-6 record this year. But time will tell.

I can agree with this. And as bad as I want the change...I will never root against us. I hope Dan finds a way to beat Ark, OM, and either SC or A&M. If he wins 6, I will personally still want him gone, but know he will not be fired....7 wins, he is very deserving of keeping his job because he will have beaten someone of merit

Eric Nies Grind Time
10-25-2013, 11:54 AM
He seems to be getting even better results with his recruits though.

CadaverDawg
10-25-2013, 12:02 PM
Well,one thing is for certain....once a coach reaches year 5 there is no pointing back to previous coaches recruits. And unfortunately we are having one of our worst looking seasons under Mullen in year 5. That says a lot.

Tbonewannabe
10-25-2013, 12:06 PM
So if we beat an Ark team that is losing by 40 and 50 points but we beat them by 3. We get blown out by Bama, A&M, SC like we have been. Then play UM close is this really improvement?

We had 2 starting NFL corners last year and a NFL Dlineman and NFL LB and we didn't compete in the last 5 games. We didn't beat Ark until they quit on the field. Against teams with comparable talent we aren't even putting forth relentless effort in those games. This seems to have carried over to this year. I think this I why people are ready for a change.

RougeDawg
10-25-2013, 12:31 PM
You summed it up pretty well. Russell coming in on 3rd drive completely killed us. Is Dan ever going to see this? It's gettibg ridiculous and we will not beat anyone except Arkansas with this mentality.

For those of you who attended, I will say the commercials were greatly reduced and music was more on spot. Guess we need to tweet Strick what we think and he will listen if enough people jump in.

Redmond does look like a nice upgrade at DB.

Bell needs to be banned from the field.

As far as Mullen overall. He's complacent and has taken us as far as he is going to. Time to find a new captain for this ship.