To anyone that wants to hate on bat flips, including umps

[deadheaddawg]

The MLB is telling people to wait till the end of this clip. They approve.

On the other hand, kinda awkward that the mlb tweeted a Mac home run

https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1138141765473591296

[Todd4State]

The attitude of MLB has been shifting. People like bat flips and emotion- right or wrong.

My view is the same as MLB's new view I think.

If you bat flip on someone- don't be mad when the pitcher yells and fist pumps when he strikes you out.

If you are a pitcher and you pump your fist and yell at the hitter don't be mad or throw at them for flipping their bat when they hit a home run off of you.

[msstatelp1]

Awesome they'd choose Mac's homer but ironic given the fact they didn't draft him.

Also after looking at it again, I don't know that I'd call that a bat flip. Mac threw it more horizontal and down than anything.

[msbulldog]

I have read that Lemonis apologized for it going over the catchers head and have read that it went over the catchers head in several other references. I haven't seen it go over the catchers head in any replay I've watched.

[starkvegasdawg]

I have read that Lemonis apologized for it going over the catchers head and have read that it went over the catchers head in several other references. I haven't seen it go over the catchers head in any replay I've watched.

Unless the catcher was laying down on the third base line then no way the bat went over his head.

[WinningIsRelentless]

I wouldn?t call what he did a flip more of a swing and he never stared down Stanford.

[Liverpooldawg]

That was the same ump that was behind the plate Saturday night. That should tell you all you need to know.

[WinningIsRelentless]

That was the same ump that was behind the plate Saturday night. That should tell you all you need to know.

No it wasn?t. Plate ump was at 2nd Sunday night.

[Liverpooldawg]

No it wasn?t. Plate ump was at 2nd Sunday night.

You sure?

[WinningIsRelentless]

That was the same ump that was behind the plate Saturday night. That should tell you all you need to know.


You sure?

Yes

[sandwolf]

The idea that a bat flip by itself is disrespectful to the pitcher is asinine. Sure it can be done in a way that is disrespectful, but by itself, it's just a celebration -- and a really mild one at that. A pitcher getting his feelings hurt over just a bat flip (no stare down, taunting, etc.) has always come across as incredibly self absorbed and entitled to me.....it has nothing to do with them.

Baseball needs to move past some of its stupid unwritten rules like this....there is nothing wrong with showing emotion and celebrating within reason when you succeed. And as Todd said, people are drawn to the raw emotion in sports, so having a little more of it shown on the baseball diamond should be a welcome change.

I got a good laugh out of Brandon Walker's answer when he was asked about his feelings on bat flips (I think this was after Bianco's kid did it in the LSU-OM series)....I don't remember exactly what he said but it was something along the lines of, "I have no problem with it. The popularity of baseball is declining, so anything to make the game more exciting is a good thing. Hell, I think they should be able to ride the bat around the bases like a pony if they want to!"

[Gutter Cobreh]

I have more of a disdain for pitchers mouthing off to an opposing dugout at the end of an inning over a hitter flipping his bat after hitting a homerun. They're probably in the same category as far as "taunting", the only problem is that I can't put a fastball between the pitchers shoulder blades when he comes to the plate because he doesn't hit due to having a DH.

[lefty96]

The attitude of MLB has been shifting. People like bat flips and emotion- right or wrong.

My view is the same as MLB's new view I think.

If you bat flip on someone- don't be mad when the pitcher yells and fist pumps when he strikes you out.

If you are a pitcher and you pump your fist and yell at the hitter don't be mad or throw at them for flipping their bat when they hit a home run off of you.


I'm all for the new direction. No one wants something to be THAT sterile. Bring on the bat flips


https://youtu.be/neHgPKWY4Qg

[dawgs]

Younger generations don't give a shit about showing emotion. I'm in my late 30s and don't know many people who are against celebrations around my age. Seems to be just the older generations that want everyone to be stoic and boring at all times that care about this shit. Enjoy life.

[mstatefan91]

I think pitchers should talk shit and batters should flip bats. Let 'em have at it.

[Really Clark?]

I?m all for celebrating, showing emotion, pumping up your team, etc. Be it a bat toss, pumping fists, jumping. Just don?t want the taunting, look at me, stare down opposing team, walk out half down first showing up other team (pitchers as well like Bumgarner). Celebrate with class not as an ass

[Commercecomet24]

I?m all for celebrating, showing emotion, pumping up your team, etc. Be it a bat toss, pumping fists, jumping. Just don?t want the taunting, look at me, stare down opposing team, walk out half down first showing up other team (pitchers as well like Bumgarner). Celebrate with class not as an ass

This is where I'm at as well. Emotion is part of sports, taunting and being an ass is not.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Bat flips are ignorant, childish, and disrespectful. Should embarrass parents and teammates alike

This is how an American Man should celebrate a clutch Homerun

https://youtu.be/N4nwMDZYXTI see minute 6:45

Vickerson did it right, he won the ballgame and Florida was #1 in the nation when he did it

https://youtu.be/8p1kmJhkkZU

[Really Clark?]

Bat flips are ignorant, childish, and disrespectful. Should embarrass parents and teammates alike

This is how an American Man should celebrate a clutch Homerun

https://youtu.be/N4nwMDZYXTI see minute 6:45

Vickerson did it right, he won the ballgame and Florida was #1 in the nation when he did it

https://youtu.be/8p1kmJhkkZU

Mantle disagrees. Flips have been around a lot longer than people realize

https://www.mlb.com/video/the-micks-bat-flips/c-537666183


https://mobile.twitter.com/baseballbros/status/1066174809414008832

Lawless in 87 World Series


https://youtu.be/OB-rdG4u_zU

[The Federalist Engineer]

Mantle disagrees. Flips have been around a lot longer than people realize


https://mobile.twitter.com/baseballbros/status/1066174809414008832

Nope, not really a bat flip, the Mick is mad he just flied out

[Really Clark?]

Nope, not really a bat flip, the Mick is mad he just flied out

Look at both clips. He flipped on one of those running out a double. Flipped when called out on strikes and flipped on a fly ball. But he also flipped on a hit. Also added Lawless HR in the World Series and NOBODY called him out or though he was being disrespectful at that time.

[dawgs]

Bat flips are ignorant, childish, and disrespectful. Should embarrass parents and teammates alike

This is how an American Man should celebrate a clutch Homerun

https://youtu.be/N4nwMDZYXTI see minute 6:45

Vickerson did it right, he won the ballgame and Florida was #1 in the nation when he did it

https://youtu.be/8p1kmJhkkZU

"This is how an American Man should celebrate"

Really? "an American Man"?

It's almost like 7B people on the planet might react differently and most of those ways are totally fine appropriate ways to react and there's not 1 single "right" way for "an American Man" to celebrate.

[starkvegasdawg]

Bat flips are ignorant, childish, and disrespectful. Should embarrass parents and teammates alike

This is how an American Man should celebrate a clutch Homerun

https://youtu.be/N4nwMDZYXTI see minute 6:45

Vickerson did it right, he won the ballgame and Florida was #1 in the nation when he did it

https://youtu.be/8p1kmJhkkZU

So you're an expert on all American males? Bet you had to do a lot of research on the subject.

[The Federalist Engineer]

So you're an expert on all American males? Bet you had to do a lot of research on the subject.

Now, of course not. Even in St. Louis you have different men by the neighborhood.

What i am saying, is be excellent and exceptional in dignified way that respects the game and the little kids that venerate the Mississippi State Program

There is literally a thread right now that asks why MSU is different than OM. It's the little things. Like traditions, standards, and customs that do not change with popular fashions

How would Marcus Aurelius celebrate a homerun?

[deadheaddawg]

Bat flips are ignorant, childish, and disrespectful. Should embarrass parents and teammates alike

This is how an American Man should celebrate a clutch Homerun

https://youtu.be/N4nwMDZYXTI see minute 6:45

Vickerson did it right, he won the ballgame and Florida was #1 in the nation when he did it

https://youtu.be/8p1kmJhkkZU

American man lol

You don't have a clue what the hell you are blabbering about. You are just a guy that has to bitch about something.

American man lol

[WinningIsRelentless]

Now, of course not. Even in St. Louis you have different men by the neighborhood.

What i am saying, is be excellent and exceptional in dignified way that respects the game and the little kids that venerate the Mississippi State Program

There is literally a thread right now that asks why MSU is different than OM. It's the little things. Like traditions, standards, and customs that do not change with popular fashions

How would Marcus Aurelius celebrate a homerun?

He didn?t taunt Stanford so I would say that is class.

[Really Clark?]

Now, of course not. Even in St. Louis you have different men by the neighborhood.

What i am saying, is be excellent and exceptional in dignified way that respects the game and the little kids that venerate the Mississippi State Program

There is literally a thread right now that asks why MSU is different than OM. It's the little things. Like traditions, standards, and customs that do not change with popular fashions

How would Marcus Aurelius celebrate a homerun?

Aurelius wouldn’t have hit one, he wouldn’t be in the game. But he did keep and/or increase the gladiator fights to distract the masses about a bad economy (and historically debatable an increase in Christian persecution during at least the first part of his reign). So he didn’t have a problem using mortal combat for entertainment... bet at least one of them did an Ax or Sword flip when he killed another gladiator

[Dawg2003]

Baseball debates about bat flipping amuse me. It's such a "get off my lawn" crowd of old grumps. It's the only sport where anyone would debate something like a bat flip. That's probably why it's decreasing in popularity. The sport refuses to change.

[Dawg2003]

Bat flips are ignorant, childish, and disrespectful. Should embarrass parents and teammates alike

This is how an American Man should celebrate a clutch Homerun

https://youtu.be/N4nwMDZYXTI see minute 6:45

Vickerson did it right, he won the ballgame and Florida was #1 in the nation when he did it

https://youtu.be/8p1kmJhkkZU

This clip is why soccer is the most popular sport in the world.

[deadheaddawg]

Baseball debates about bat flipping amuse me. It's such a "get off my lawn" crowd of old grumps. It's the only sport where anyone would debate something like a bat flip. That's probably why it's decreasing in popularity. The sport refuses to change.

Thankfully it doesn't matter what people like The Federalist Engineer think. They are completely irrelevant now. MLB doesn't care. The NCAA doesn't care.

The only people that care are asshole umpires and old engineers. But luckily smarter heads are prevailing. They are marketing this. They want the excitement. Baseball wants to be fun.

These other miserable old farts can keep yelling at clouds. It won't accomplish anything

[mstatefan91]

Bat flips are ignorant, childish, and disrespectful. Should embarrass parents and teammates alike

This is how an American Man should celebrate a clutch Homerun

https://youtu.be/N4nwMDZYXTI see minute 6:45

Vickerson did it right, he won the ballgame and Florida was #1 in the nation when he did it

https://youtu.be/8p1kmJhkkZU

So, the teamates that didn't hit the HR should be able to act silly and excited but not the person who hit it? That makes zero sense

[MaroonBelle]

Bat flips are ignorant, childish, and disrespectful. Should embarrass parents and teammates alike

This is how an American Man should celebrate a clutch Homerun

https://youtu.be/N4nwMDZYXTI see minute 6:45

Vickerson did it right, he won the ballgame and Florida was #1 in the nation when he did it

https://youtu.be/8p1kmJhkkZU

Funny if you go to Nick Vickerson's Twitter feed right now you will find that he retweeted this tweet:
https://twitter.com/MikeyY626/status/1138151619969896448?s=19

Which basically says what Mac did was fine and the ump should have stayed the hell out of it.

So, apparently, even your example of American baseball masculinity doesn't agree with you.

[deadheaddawg]

lol. Great find

That's pretty embarrassing for the old engineer

[The Federalist Engineer]

You kids stay off my damn lawn!

In 20 years, you will agree with me, all of you

Plus, we are barely talking about Peyton Plumlee's massive outing or Skelton's performance as the keys to victory

[timotheus]

You are the one who is acting all high and mighty on this topic. Most of us we in attendance sunday night and witnessed our great team win. Why haven't you started a discussion on Plum and skelt? asking for a friend cuz i mite change my mind in 20 years or so. Did i do it correctly?

[GreenheadDawg]

[QUOTE=The Federalist Engineer;1117415]Bat flips are ignorant, childish, and disrespectful. Should embarrass parents and teammates alike

This is how an American Man should celebrate a clutch Homerun

https://youtu.be/N4nwMDZYXTI see minute 6:45

Vickerson did it right, he won the ballgame and Florida was #1 in the nation when he did it

[URL="https://youtu.be/8p1kmJhkkZU"]https://youtu.be/8p1kmJhkkZU

Ridiculous. It’s not 1970 anymore.

[West Tn Dawg]

Some think the flip is fine, some don't. Just a difference of opinion. The question I got, is why are grown men still bickering about who's right 4 days later? We got a World Series coming up.

[deadheaddawg]

You kids stay off my damn lawn!

In 20 years, you will agree with me, all of you

Plus, we are barely talking about Peyton Plumlee's massive outing or Skelton's performance as the keys to victory

lol. Trying to change the subject after you got embarrassed and made to look like a fool


Some think the flip is fine, some don't. Just a difference of opinion. The question I got, is why are grown men still bickering about who's right 4 days later? We got a World Series coming up.

Because when an AMERICAN MAN sees injustice, he stands up for what's right.

Because an AMERICAN MAN supports Macnamee.

God bless Lee Greenwood

[gravedigger]

Younger generations don't give a shit about showing emotion. I'm in my late 30s and don't know many people who are against celebrations around my age. Seems to be just the older generations that want everyone to be stoic and boring at all times that care about this shit. Enjoy life.

Nobody wants anyone to be stoic and boring. Congrats on mischaracterizing the oppositions point.