Arky Game 2 Thread

[MarketingBully]

That folks is why I’m not the baseball coach and Lemonis is. That was big balls by Lemonis to go to a rightie and keep the best relievers for tomorrow. Smith delivered.

[Bdawg]

Lol I was wrong. Lemonis just rolled sevens there.

Blind hog and stuff, right?

[Percho]

Smith. Thanks!

[MarketingBully]

Who was the pitcher? I got up to get coffee.

The true freshman Brandon Smith.

[MarketingBully]

Blind hog and stuff, right?

He’s 32-7 as the head coach. That’s better then the blind hog.

[KOdawg1]

Skelton gets plunked. Leadoff man on. Let's go guys.

[Bdawg]

He’s 32-7 as the head coach. That’s better then the blind hog.

Well didn't believe him 5 min ago!! Ha ha

[KOdawg1]

Cumbest Ks again.

[RocketDawg]

When the Ark catcher pulled his mask off to try to catch the popup, it looked like he was wearing some sort of earpiece. If that's what it was, who do they communicate with?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Cumbest go practice football please he is on the struggle bus

[I seen it dawg]

Hatcher ****

[magrooder]

When the Ark catcher pulled his mask off to try to catch the popup, it looked like he was wearing some sort of earpiece. If that's what it was, who do they communicate with?

You can use it to call the pitches from the bench

[RocketDawg]

Cumbest Ks again.

Are you listening or watching? I'm watching on SEC+, and you posted that well before it was shown on television.

[KOdawg1]

Halter walks. He's quietly having a good game at the plate.

2 on, 1 out for Jake

[I seen it dawg]

Let's ****ing go!! Let's go jake ****

[RocketDawg]

You can use it to call the pitches from the bench

Interesting. Didn't know that. It's funny it's OK in college baseball, but in college football I don't think the QB can wear a earpiece/mic but they can in the NFL.

[I seen it dawg]

Need a patient at bat

[I seen it dawg]

Or not. ****

[KOdawg1]

Are you listening or watching? I'm watching on SEC+, and you posted that well before it was shown on television.

Watching while listening on the radio synced. I'll slow down so I'm not spoiling things.

[I seen it dawg]

Don't swing at the first pitch changes the at bat. That's 2 at bats in a row of old swing at everything jake.

[KOdawg1]

Jake grounds out but the runners move into scoring position. Westy up with a chance to tie the game.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Weak as dishwater

[MarketingBully]

Mangum really really struggling right now.

[I seen it dawg]

Terrible at bats from jake and Westburg. Just ****ing swing at everything when the bottom of order guys scrap to get on base. ****ing selfish horseshit at bats.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Don?t deserve to win when your 1 and 2 hitters do that.

[MarketingBully]

Okay people who didn’t watch the homer but now are back watching it please stop watching that is all.

[I seen it dawg]

Mangum really really struggling right now.

He's back to not being patient. Swinging at every pitch he sees.

[bulldogcountry1]

Jake is pressing and Westburg looks like hot garbage. The table was set for the top of the order, and we hit two weak grounders.

[MarketingBully]

Terrible at bats from jake and Westburg. Just ****ing swing at everything when the bottom of order guys scrap to get on base. ****ing selfish horseshit at bats.

Yep right after we had the momentum with that double play.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Okay people who didn’t watch the homer but now are back watching it please stop watching that is all.

Hahahahaha im guilty

[Skydawg1]

Okay people who didn’t watch the homer but now are back watching it please stop watching that is all.

I switched to TWitter and we made it a 5-7 game. Watched again and saw Westburg do his thing again, so back to twitter.

[MarketingBully]

He's back to not being patient. Swinging at every pitch he sees.

Yeah he has just about struck out twice his last two at bats.

[I seen it dawg]

Just throw it down the ****ong middle

[HoopsDawg]

Leadoff guy gets on for the 5th time in 5 innings. Ridiculous.

6 for 6. Bring in Liebelt. We can win this game.

[I seen it dawg]

Attaboy Brandon smith. Locate

[West Tn Dawg]

Sorry........

[West Tn Dawg]

Mangum needs to get that record out of his head. They can throw shit first pitch and know he will swing at it. He's making it easy for them. He will NOT take a walk.

[HoopsDawg]

Thank you Lemon.

[MarketingBully]

Gordo coming in right?

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Mangum needs to get that record out of his head. They can throw shit first pitch and know he will swing at it. He's making it easy for them. He will NOT take a walk.

In his defense that?s pretty much always how he is. It does look worse than usual at the moment though

[Bdawg]

Gordo coming in right?

It's time to pitch someone who can get the lead off hitter and put zeroes up to give us a chance

[HoopsDawg]

Nice Job Cole.

[BuckyIsAB****]

We are so close to breaking thru. Gotta think they are holding on by a thread

[I seen it dawg]

****kng terrible

[HoopsDawg]

Wow, we have walked 9 but we've stranded 11. This is Cole's game from here on out.

[drummerdawg]

Okay people who didn’t watch the homer but now are back watching it please stop watching that is all.

Guilty

[msstate7]

2 very good pitches back-to-back there

[I seen it dawg]

Get some muther****ing runs here. Their bullpen is trash. Take the lead and let Cole finish it.

[Bdawg]

Jeez this ump. Gordon has to strike him out looking TWICE!

[MarketingBully]

Gordon on tonight. He could go the rest of the innings. Allen, Mac, Foscue up. Should be the time to get some runs. Kopps is not good.

[MarketingBully]

Get some muther****ing runs here. Their bullpen is trash. Take the lead and let Cole finish it.

Exactly. Cronin couldn’t come in tonight and he’s the only reliever they have that is worth half a shit.

[HoopsDawg]

Cumbest Ks again.

Imagine not Pinch hitting for Cumbest in that spot.

[West Tn Dawg]

TA seems to be right back in that funk again!

[KOdawg1]

Two quick groundouts. Damn.

[MarketingBully]

Just weak contact against a shit pitcher. Embarrassing.

[mparkerfd20]

We could get swept this weekend.

[KOdawg1]

Quick inning. Didn't need that. Arky's 1-2-3 hitters due up in the bottom of the 7th.

[I seen it dawg]

Well that's great out of your 3-4-5

[MarketingBully]

Wow. Disappointing effort from our hitters.

[MarketingBully]

We could get swept this weekend.

Yes we could especially if we keep playing like ass.

[West Tn Dawg]

And Lemonis just sits over there on his ass. Try coaching for a change!!!

[MarketingBully]

Do we ever adjust to the strike zone different pitchers ever?

[HoopsDawg]

We could get swept this weekend.

Yeah, or we can win this series. Huge pitching advantage for us tomorrow.

[West Tn Dawg]

Wow. Disappointing effort from our hitters.

Yep, Pathetic!

[West Tn Dawg]

Yeah, or we can win this series. Huge pitching advantage for us tomorrow.

That's what was said about this game. The way we hitting, they don't need much pitching.

[KOdawg1]

Leadoff man on for the 7th straight inning. Holy shit.

[HoopsDawg]

Are you kidding me Cole. Another freaking leadoff walk. 7 for 7 leadoff man getting on.

[I seen it dawg]

Imagine that the leadoff guy on. Goddammit fox hall do something about this shit

[MarketingBully]

We were never going to win shit batting the way we did this weekend. Just pitiful at bats and it has nothing to do with Arkansas pitching. This is on our ****ing hitters.

[KOdawg1]

Pretty pathetic. We're hitting like shit, but our pitching gave us no shot tonight. None. Zero. Freaking pathetic.

[msstate7]

10 walks, 11 hits in 6+ innings = 3.50 whip

That's unbelievably pathetic

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Imagine that the leadoff guy on. Goddammit fox hall do something about this shit

What are you wanting him to do? Yell at them? Ask them politely to become better pitchers? It's not like this is a recurring problem for us that he should have fixed, nor are we just letting 1 bad pitcher continue to go out there. We're saving the best arms for tomorrow/when we have a lead. There's nothing in game a PC can do

[Catfishdog]

10 walks, 10 hits and lead-off batter in each inning gets on base. This is suppose to be a college pitching staff

[HoopsDawg]

11 freaking walks. Come on Cole, damn it!!!

[BuckyIsAB****]

No balls. No focus. I wish I knew about how to pitch so I could know what was going on but to just give in time and time again and dont challenge them shows no balls or no intensity

[HoopsDawg]

This is why I was asking for Liebelt 4 innings ago. At least he is going to make them earn it.

[BuckyIsAB****]

12 walks. TWELVE. DOZEN

[MarketingBully]

10 walks, 11 hits in 6+ innings = 3.50 whip

That's unbelievably pathetic

As bad as that is 5 hits against this pathetic pitching staff is worse.

[HoopsDawg]

LOL, atrocious call. I will take it.

[KOdawg1]

Arkansas douchebag is rung up, argues, and gets tossed.

[RocketDawg]

College players get thrown out for arguing umpire calls. I don't think that's anything new.

[I seen it dawg]

Wow home ump so terrible

[BeardoMSU]

And the very next throw is the exact same pitch and called a ball. **** you Arkansas, lol.

[HoopsDawg]

f'kn walked in another run. 12 walks.

[I seen it dawg]

Now we will walk one in

[BayouDawg]

12 walks is just unacceptable at this level

[BuckyIsAB****]

No balls. Pathetic

[RocketDawg]

On the left side of the screen ... there are 3 fans wearing what looks like beer steins on their heads.

[I seen it dawg]

Why can't we have mentally tough pitchers.

[BeardoMSU]

Twelve. ****ing. Walks.....how is this happening?

[RocketDawg]

f'kn walked in another run. 12 walks.

Still, without the grand slam we'd be ahead by a run. Maybe.

[MarketingBully]

Holy shit he’s going to walk us out of the game.

[KOdawg1]

Andddd with that, I'm logging off because I can't watch this anymore.

We may very well come back. I hope we do. But this is pathetic. Pathetic effort, pathetic mentality, pathetic everything. Absolutely terrible.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Time to pull Gordon this is shit

[HoopsDawg]

Are you kidding me Cole and Lemon? How can Liebelt not be up in the pen. 13 walks as Cole walks in another one..

[I seen it dawg]

****kng embarrassing guys can't compete on the mound.

[Catfishdog]

My Gosh throw STRIKES

[West Tn Dawg]

All of our pitchers with the exception of Small look like they are scared to death!

[msstate7]

13 walks

[I seen it dawg]

And shit isn't ****ing close. What the ****

[BuckyIsAB****]

Gordon lost his focus when old boy got tossed. Weak as shit mentality

[West Tn Dawg]

Lemonis would have to get up to do anything, and that ain't likely to happen!

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Are you kidding me Cole and Lemon? How can Liebelt not be up in the pen. 13 walks as Cole walks in another one..

Because we're down several runs and still have game 3 to play? Because we look like crap offensively? Why would you burn your best reliever when there's only a 10% chance your O will score enough.

Ginn is mentall tough. he will battle and give us a chance tomorrow. Then Leibelt and Barlow should be enough to get the win

[HoopsDawg]

This game was as close to a forfeit as you will ever see.

[West Tn Dawg]

I'm ****in done!!!!

[MarketingBully]

Ballgame.

[BeardoMSU]

A Roman crucifixion....

[Skydawg1]

We have hired Ron Polk 3.

[Bdawg]

Wow. Disappointing effort from our hitters.

Could say the same for our pitchers. 13 walks I believe.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Chalk it up boys. Shit effort from our pitching staff. Shit effort from just about everyone. Hopefully its just life in this league but this series is done. Pray their intensity drops tomo bc ours isnt there right this weekend

[I seen it dawg]

Because we're down several runs and still have game 3 to play? Because we look like crap offensively? Why would you burn your best reliever when there's only a 10% chance your O will score enough.

Ginn is mentall tough. he will battle and give us a chance tomorrow. Then Leibelt and Barlow should be enough to get the win

Yeah got to win one in the series. It's sec. not gonna win every series.

[MarketingBully]

I’m done watching this shit. I’m not watching tomorrow either. Sorry ass effort this weekend all the way around.

[HoopsDawg]

Because we're down several runs and still have game 3 to play? Because we look like crap offensively? Why would you burn your best reliever when there's only a 10% chance your O will score enough.

Ginn is mentall tough. he will battle and give us a chance tomorrow. Then Leibelt and Barlow should be enough to get the win

We may win last night if we don't "concede" and leave Self in. We may have won this game if we bring in Liebelt. 2 runs isn't shit against this Arky pitching staff. We are just going to have to agree to disagree.

[Zildjan]

Clown show.

[NCDawg]

Appears our pitching staff, other than Small and Ginn, aren't very good.

[I seen it dawg]

Truly embarrassing effort from pitching staff. None of them competed at all with the exception of Eagan somewhat. Foxhall better ****ing figure out how to get to these guys and make them compete.

[MarketingBully]

Could say the same for our pitchers. 13 walks I believe.

We made a 5+ ERA freshman and their shit pen look like bad asses tonight. 5 ****ing hits. That isn’t winning shit against their offense as well. We are hitting just like we did against LSU that Friday and Saturday. Only worse, we could get swept.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

When you have a shit show like this all you can hope is that the team gets humbled enough to really learn something. Hitters have to stay patient, even when everything in them wants to be the hero. Pitchers have to ignore the road crowd and trust their stuff, because if you don't trust your stuff it ends just as bad as getting rocked does. Defense seems flustered by the road crowd too. And the staff has something to learn too- many mistakes have been made these 2 games with who we bring out, when we pinch hit etc. They have to pay more attention to the details

[ScooterDog]

Me too Marketing bully. I'v had all of this crap I can take. Don't know if it's the full moon or not, but this is the worst they have played all year. No excuses!

[BuckyIsAB****]

Appears our pitching staff, other than Small and Ginn, aren't very good.

Liebelt and Barlow havent seen the mound and we have walked 13 guys and counting. Plumlee and James started this garbage. At least Self just got beat with a HR he didnt basically forfeit walking guys

[Skydawg1]

So tired of that ****ing gatorade commercial.

[Catfishdog]

5 runs on 2 hits

[HoopsDawg]

We made a 5+ ERA freshman and their shit pen look like bad asses tonight. 5 ****ing hits. That isn’t winning shit against their offense as well. We are hitting just like we did against LSU that Friday and Saturday. Only worse, we could get swept.

It's been an all around effort for sure. Pitching, Hitting, Defense and coaching decisions have been complete shit.

[I seen it dawg]

Our pitching staff is soft as ****

[CadaverDawg]

Just logged in and thought a Joe Moorhead offensive football camp was going on.....did I read 13 walks? I'm not going to ask the score. Glad I was tied up tonight. Sounds like a shit fest

[BuckyIsAB****]

But the one thing I will say is that this team has always battled. They wont mail it in after this. We tried to battle tonight but the walks were to much too overcome even if Rooker, Palmeiro and Will Clark were dressed out

[I seen it dawg]

Same as LSU....we start getting Pats on the back and we come out and look like total dogshit

[I seen it dawg]

There you go Skelton swing at a slider first pitch down 7

[Cooterpoot]

I?m not impressed with Foxhall to this point. He?s getting nothing out this staff. I see no improvement but I see us throwing an ass load of fastballs and leaving guys in too long. Our talent is limited but better than this.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We may win last night if we don't "concede" and leave Self in. We may have won this game if we bring in Liebelt. 2 runs isn't shit against this Arky pitching staff. We are just going to have to agree to disagree.

Correct about last night. Last night was a 1 run game and we had Mac Foscue and Rowdy due up... yeah you throw a real pitcher to hold the line. Moreover, Self is about the lowest guy on the staff... Eagan, Smith, James all would have been better, and those aren't your top line guys. Bringing Self out for the 8th was just a lazy, already conceded we've lost move that saved nothing.

[HoopsDawg]

Liebelt and Barlow havent seen the mound and we have walked 13 guys and counting. Plumlee and James started this garbage. At least Self just got beat with a HR he didnt basically forfeit walking guys

Exactly, we were in a 1 run game in the 8th last night and a 2 run game in the 7th tonight and we don't use Liebelt or Barlow or even Colby White who usually throw strikes. Just a complete forfeit tonight.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Same as LSU....we start getting Pats on the back and we come out and look like total dogshit

agreed 100 percent. LSU series we won game 1 then we got caught up in how good we were and how cool the new dude was and it beat us. This weekend I think they were hungry after series loss and we were fat and happy after a sweep

[HoopsDawg]

LOL, now we PH with Hatcher, LOL.

[Skydawg1]

Guys, it's simply the Curst of Being Ranked #2. Been going on all year.

[RocketDawg]

So tired of that ****ing gatorade commercial.

The T-Mobile one is more irritating with all the buzzing.

[Bdawg]

Just logged in and thought a Joe Moorhead offensive football camp was going on.....did I read 13 walks? I'm not going to ask the score. Glad I was tied up tonight. Sounds like a shit fest
To put it lightly, we won't be in Omaha if we hit crap pitching like tonight and something big doesn't change with our pen. I've never seen relievers come out in relief and look ok the first inning of relief and then look like total shit the for the next inning. To me that's not mentally tough and having the attitude that I'm coming out here and fixing to shove it up your ass and make you like it. We are soft as Charmin.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I?m not impressed with Foxhall to this point. He?s getting nothing out this staff. I see no improvement but I see us throwing an ass load of fastballs and leaving guys in too long. Our talent is limited but better than this.

1) I'm not sure how much you really pay attention if you can't spell his name, 2) yes there's been improvement: Small, Leibelt, and Barlow are all better. Take out the lights out postseason Gordon and he's the same as last year. Plumlee is better than he was last time he was with us. Self and Price are still coming back from injury so we can't pin their lack of improvement on Foxhall. Similarly James is more healthy than last year so we can't give much credit to the coaching. Ginn, Spring, White, and Smith are newcomers so we can't judge his coaching with them either.

So of the 4 returning guys that were healthy last year, 3 have shown improvement and the 4th is Gordon.

[RougeDawg]

Just logged in and thought a Joe Moorhead offensive football camp was going on.....did I read 13 walks? I'm not going to ask the score. Glad I was tied up tonight. Sounds like a shit fest

Yea. It?s a shit show. I think 9 of their 12 runs were put on base via the walk. Add in that Mangum is pressing for the record. He?s jumping at the ball. Maybe they can salvage one tomorrow.

[Bdawg]

There you go Skelton swing at a slider first pitch down 7


Just so dumb it hurts

[RougeDawg]

On the bright side their RF cannot play tomorrow after being ejected in 7th.

[Cooterpoot]

Only improving I’ve seen is from another year of experience. Small was great end of last year. I’ve seen past coaches figure it out. I haven’t seen that this season.

[BuckyIsAB****]

The reason I loved this bunch so much, probably my favorite sports team in the history of MSU sports was the way we battled. Scrapped and fought and clawed after we had every reason to quit. I hope we havent gotten away from that. We are going to be ok, we aint gonna walk 13 guys hopefully ever again but its just not very tough minded to get praised then relax. This is the 2nd time this year I think we have done that. Hopefully its just baseball and I dont know what Im talking about

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Yea. It?s a shit show. I think 9 of their 12 runs were put on base via the walk. Add in that Mangum is pressing for the record. He?s jumping at the ball. Maybe they can salvage one tomorrow.

Ginn is a street fighter with much better stuff than Plumlee, I doubt he'll be intimidated by the crowd and I doubt they'll score much early. Then Leibelt and Barlow come on... that's a completely different set up than the guys who've taken the mound tonight. it's night and day. Meanwhile Cronin is the only Arky pitcher that's worth a darn they'll have a available. We should take tomorrow, if we don't I'll really really question them mental makeup of the team

[I seen it dawg]

What a joke this is. I'm tearing shit up in the locker room post game. These guys are pussies pitching tonite.

[Dawg2003]

Ginn was shaky against LSU. He hasn't been 100% lockdown.

[I seen it dawg]

Ball 1

[MarketingBully]

What I want to know is aside from Gordon have we pitched any relievers we will he depending on in this season at all? We have 14 walks this game but look who we are ****ing pitching: Plumlee to James to Eagan to Smith to Gordon to Spring. Where was Barlow, White, Leibelt? Those should be the three we go to first out of the pen. Hell had we gone with Leibelt yesterday instead of Self we probably win that game and still have Leibelt for tomorrow. The fact that we haven?t seen our three best bullpen arms all weekend is why we are down 0-2 right now. It?s pretty easy to see and I could see it last night and tonight which is why Lemonis gets an F for his managing this weekend. He took huge ass gambles that were bound to fail and didn?t put us in the best position to win this weekend.

[I seen it dawg]

Ball 1 again

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Ginn was shaky against LSU. He hasn't been 100% lockdown.

And he then sucked at TN because his arm was tired... are we sure that he wasn't starting to get tired vs LSU? Besides LSU had 6 lefties in their lineup. I'm not saying he's a 100% lock to shut them down but he's clearly much better than who they'll be running out there, or who we started today

[I seen it dawg]

What I want to know is aside from Gordon have we pitched any relievers we will he depending on in this season at all? We have 14 walks this game but look who we are ****ing pitching: Plumlee to James to Eagan to Smith to Gordon to Spring. Where was Barlow, White, Leibelt? Those should be the three we go to first out of the pen. Hell had we gone with Leibelt yesterday instead of Self we probably win that game and still have Leibelt for tomorrow. The fact that we haven?t seen our three best bullpen arms all weekend is why we are down 0-2 right now. It?s pretty easy to see and I could see it last night and tonight which is why Lemonis gets an F for his managing this weekend. He took huge ass gambles that were bound to fail and didn?t put us in the best position to win this weekend.

We have to have all those guys. And they don't get hit bc they won't throw strikes.

[MarketingBully]

The reason I loved this bunch so much, probably my favorite sports team in the history of MSU sports was the way we battled. Scrapped and fought and clawed after we had every reason to quit. I hope we havent gotten away from that. We are going to be ok, we aint gonna walk 13 guys hopefully ever again but its just not very tough minded to get praised then relax. This is the 2nd time this year I think we have done that. Hopefully its just baseball and I dont know what Im talking about

We walked 13 because of who Lemonis had out there. Aside from Gordon, those were basically our mid-week arms.

[MarketingBully]

We have to have all those guys. And they don't get hit bc they won't throw strikes.

Those guys aside from Gordon were all midweek guys. You put in midweek guys on the mound on the road in the SEC you’re going to get rocked.

[HoopsDawg]

with our upcoming schedule, 1 game vs OM, 3 vs UGA, 3 vs A&M, things could get dicey with this team.

[I seen it dawg]

Those guys aside from Gordon were all midweek guys. You put in midweek guys on the mound on the road in the SEC you’re going to get rocked.

None of them got rocked. They didn't throw strikes. I don't give a shit if it's weekend, mid week, fall camp wherever if you are on an sec team you have to be able to throw a ****ing strike. These pussies tonite couldn't.

[HoopsDawg]

Tomorrow we have Ginn, Liebelt, Barlow and White all available and Arkansas is without one of their best players and they are pitching TBA. I'm not going to call it a must win, but it's pretty damn close.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

What I want to know is aside from Gordon have we pitched any relievers we will he depending on in this season at all? We have 14 walks this game but look who we are ****ing pitching: Plumlee to James to Eagan to Smith to Gordon to Spring. Where was Barlow, White, Leibelt? Those should be the three we go to first out of the pen. Hell had we gone with Leibelt yesterday instead of Self we probably win that game and still have Leibelt for tomorrow. The fact that we haven?t seen our three best bullpen arms all weekend is why we are down 0-2 right now. It?s pretty easy to see and I could see it last night and tonight which is why Lemonis gets an F for his managing this weekend. He took huge ass gambles that were bound to fail and didn?t put us in the best position to win this weekend.

Game 1 there's no excuse to bring Self back out for the 8th. None. it was a 1 run game.

But I'll defend putting James in to relieve Plumlee. James had a good outing last time out, and as our 4th starter and current long reliever he's the obvious choice for a long relief opportunity. After that though it was clear we were trying to preserve the arms you mentioned for game 3 unless our O showed up.

[HoopsDawg]

After Small, Ginn, Liebelt, and Barlow (for 1 inning), who do we have confidence in?

[I seen it dawg]

Tomorrow we have Ginn, Liebelt, Barlow and White all available and Arkansas is without one of their best players and they are pitching TBA. I'm not going to call it a must win, but it's pretty damn close.

Agreed

[BuckyIsAB****]

What I want to know is aside from Gordon have we pitched any relievers we will he depending on in this season at all? We have 14 walks this game but look who we are ****ing pitching: Plumlee to James to Eagan to Smith to Gordon to Spring. Where was Barlow, White, Leibelt? Those should be the three we go to first out of the pen. Hell had we gone with Leibelt yesterday instead of Self we probably win that game and still have Leibelt for tomorrow. The fact that we haven?t seen our three best bullpen arms all weekend is why we are down 0-2 right now. It?s pretty easy to see and I could see it last night and tonight which is why Lemonis gets an F for his managing this weekend. He took huge ass gambles that were bound to fail and didn?t put us in the best position to win this weekend.

One of those has to step up in order for us to make a postseason run is why its so worrisome...Plumlee has to be at least average. Maybe James proves me wrong but I just dont think he has it this year. Gordon is going to be ok he has been thru the fire

[BuckyIsAB****]

with our upcoming schedule, 1 game vs OM, 3 vs UGA, 3 vs A&M, things could get dicey with this team.

UGA lost to UT I dont think they are better than us. None of those are better than us it just depends on us. We cant shit the bed like we did vs LSU and this weekend. I think we will be ok

[MarketingBully]

None of them got rocked. They didn't throw strikes. I don't give a shit if it's weekend, mid week, fall camp wherever if you are on an sec team you have to be able to throw a ****ing strike. These pussies tonite couldn't.

When you haven’t even thrown your three to four best bullpen arms all ****ing weekend what do you expect? I get your saying throw strikes but aside from Gordon we had James (who basically has been reduced to weekday duty), Brandon Smith (a freshman we mainly see on the weekday games some in SEC games when the game is out of reach), Egan (mainly a weekday guy), Gordon (a guy we do depend on), Spring (weekday guy), and Bryce (true freshman moo up guy). That’s who we pitched tonight. You get what you pay for and none of those guys sans Cole do we depend on in the SEC much less an SEC away series against a top 10 opponent.

Lemonis has managed a shit series and put us in positions to fail in both games. All the pitchers we pitched tonight were prone to walk batters. Only one we pitched who wasn’t prone was Brandon Smith and we took him out because he got hit because he threw strikes. When you don’t throw your best arms out of the pen in two of the three games you will lose the series 80-90% of the time.

[MarketingBully]

Game 1 there's no excuse to bring Self back out for the 8th. None. it was a 1 run game.

But I'll defend putting James in to relieve Plumlee. James had a good outing last time out, and as our 4th starter and current long reliever he's the obvious choice for a long relief opportunity. After that though it was clear we were trying to preserve the arms you mentioned for game 3 unless our O showed up.

Hell you don’t pitch him that next inning though after he showed you how wild he was. At that point the game is 6-2 and still in reach with who they had pitching.

[CadaverDawg]

How are names like Keegan James and Riley Self even popping up in game threads during SEC play? That's the biggest issue with the last two nights....our coaches still don't realize guys like that aren't SEC pitchers.

[BuckyIsAB****]

When you haven’t even thrown your three to four best bullpen arms all ****ing weekend what do you expect? I get your saying throw strikes but aside from Gordon we had James (who basically has been reduced to weekday duty), Brandon Smith (a freshman we mainly see on the weekday games some in SEC games when the game is out of reach), Egan (mainly a weekday guy), Gordon (a guy we do depend on), Spring (weekday guy), and Bryce (true freshman moo up guy). That’s who we pitched tonight. You get what you pay for and none of those guys sans Cole do we depend on in the SEC much less an SEC away series against a top 10 opponent.

Lemonis has managed a shit series and put us in positions to fail in both games. All the pitchers we pitched tonight were prone to walk batters. Only one we pitched who wasn’t prone was Brandon Smith and we took him out because he got hit because he threw strikes. When you don’t throw your best arms out of the pen in two of the three games you will lose the series 80-90% of the time.

Not to mention Halter, (although he was better than he has been but not great) and Hatcher all playing... no Marshall Gilbert. Granted he did have a bad error on Thurs. night. All around a lack of focus and intensity from everyone in the program. Arkansas was hungry and we were not.

[MarketingBully]

One of those has to step up in order for us to make a postseason run is why its so worrisome...Plumlee has to be at least average. Maybe James proves me wrong but I just dont think he has it this year. Gordon is going to be ok he has been thru the fire

Plumlee just had bad luck. His fielders ****ed him early and Foxhall didn’t come out to calm him down before the grand slam at bat. I think Plumlee will be okay. James is ass right now. Just pure flaming ass. He literally bounced fastballs to the plate. If I was Skelton, the pitcher I’d dread coming in is James. 94 mph bouncing balls is not my idea of what a fun day would be for a catcher.

[MarketingBully]

How are names like Keegan James and Riley Self even popping up in game threads during SEC play? That's the biggest issue with the last two nights....our coaches still don't realize guys like that aren't SEC pitchers.

Hey Cadaver, this is who we pitched tonight and why we had 13-14 walks. Starting Plumlee: we relieved him with James (who basically has been reduced to weekday duty), Brandon Smith (a freshman we mainly see on the weekday games some in SEC games when the game is out of reach), Egan (mainly a weekday guy), Gordon (a guy we do depend on), Spring (weekday guy), and Bryce (true freshman moo up guy).

[Skydawg1]

Plumlee just had bad luck. His fielders ****ed him early and Foxhall didn’t come out to calm him down before the grand slam at bat. I think Plumlee will be okay. James is ass right now. Just pure flaming ass. He literally bounced fastballs to the plate. If I was Skelton, the pitcher I’d dread coming in is James. 94 mph bouncing balls is not my idea of what a fun day would be for a catcher.All that then Skelton got rung up on a non-swing. Couldn't pay me enough to catch.

[MarketingBully]

Tomorrow we have Ginn, Liebelt, Barlow and White all available and Arkansas is without one of their best players and they are pitching TBA. I'm not going to call it a must win, but it's pretty damn close.

If we can’t blow them out and shut them down tomorrow, we have a bunch of weak pussies on this team. If we have any leadership at all on this team we should beat them by 10+ runs tomorrow.

[MarketingBully]

Ginn/Barlow/Leibelt/White would shut their lineup down. With their TBD pitcher and Johnny Wholestaff pen, I’d say we should score 10+ runs on them. Way to play for one Lemonass

[BuckyIsAB****]

Plumlee just had bad luck. His fielders ****ed him early and Foxhall didn’t come out to calm him down before the grand slam at bat. I think Plumlee will be okay. James is ass right now. Just pure flaming ass. He literally bounced fastballs to the plate. If I was Skelton, the pitcher I’d dread coming in is James. 94 mph bouncing balls is not my idea of what a fun day would be for a catcher.

Plumlee had at least 3 walks and gave up the grand slam. He has been good against two pretty bad offenses and probably below average against the good ones. He wasnt very good tonight tbh

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

How are names like Keegan James and Riley Self even popping up in game threads during SEC play? That's the biggest issue with the last two nights....our coaches still don't realize guys like that aren't SEC pitchers.

Small, Ginn, Plumlee, Leibelt, Barlow, Gordon are the top tier, after that you've got what, White, James, and Eagan as the next tier? Everyone else after that? There's not not depth, is my point.

If James shouldn't see the mound vs SEC teams, then Leibelt and Barlow and White are who you wanted us to burn today. I'd rather save them for tomorrow than leave us with nothing and still lose today because the O didn't show up either way

[Thick]

We are not going to beat Arkansas by 10 runs, bc they can hit it as well. We screwed the pooch with the bed shitting at UT. Could have and should have had a road sweep. Our bullpen is our biggest liability, and tonight our approach at the plate was terrible.

[CadaverDawg]

Small, Ginn, Plumlee, Leibelt, Barlow, Gordon are the top tier, after that you've got what, White, James, and Eagan as the next tier? Everyone else after that? There's not not depth, is my point.

If James shouldn't see the mound vs SEC teams, then Leibelt and Barlow and White are who you wanted us to burn today. I'd rather save them for tomorrow than leave us with nothing and still lose today because the O didn't show up either way

What inning did James enter? How do you know we lose if someone else enters then? I didn't see the game, just basing it off what you guys said plus the fact that Keegan James has never proven to be worth a damn. I'm sorry, he seems like a great dude...I just don't understand the love affair our coaches and some fans have with him. I don't give a rats ass what he did one summer in the Cape...he ain't done shit any Spring in the SEC, and that's what matters. Keegan James and Riley Self should only pitch SEC games that we're losing by 12+ runs in the 7th inning or later....they are midweek guys now. I hate it for them, but I'd much rather see a young inexperienced guy trot out there and get smoked while gaining valuable experience, than to see those veteran whiplashers trot out Again and get ripped all over the yard and James walk guys and bounce 50 pitches up there.

[Ari Gold]

Small, Ginn, Plumlee, Leibelt, Barlow, Gordon are the top tier, after that you've got what, White, James, and Eagan as the next tier? Everyone else after that? There's not not depth, is my point.

If James shouldn't see the mound vs SEC teams, then Leibelt and Barlow and White are who you wanted us to burn today. I'd rather save them for tomorrow than leave us with nothing and still lose today because the O didn't show up either way

What has Plumlee done to be in top tier ??

[Ari Gold]

16 walks would equal 16 foul poles for all pitchers ..
Inexcusable to walk that many batters.
Luckily they only scored 12..

[Todd4State]

What a joke this is. I'm tearing shit up in the locker room post game. These guys are pussies pitching tonite.

That sums up my feelings.

[Todd4State]

What inning did James enter? How do you know we lose if someone else enters then? I didn't see the game, just basing it off what you guys said plus the fact that Keegan James has never proven to be worth a damn. I'm sorry, he seems like a great dude...I just don't understand the love affair our coaches and some fans have with him. I don't give a rats ass what he did one summer in the Cape...he ain't done shit any Spring in the SEC, and that's what matters. Keegan James and Riley Self should only pitch SEC games that we're losing by 12+ runs in the 7th inning or later....they are midweek guys now. I hate it for them, but I'd much rather see a young inexperienced guy trot out there and get smoked while gaining valuable experience, than to see those veteran whiplashers trot out Again and get ripped all over the yard and James walk guys and bounce 50 pitches up there.

It doesn't have anything to do with how any of them did in the Cape. Guys like Plumlee, Gordon (ERA over 7 now), Keegan, and Self should be able to throw strikes and pitch better. And they should be contributing more and performing better than they did and in Gordon's case better than we have. We didn't challenge the strike zone at all.

As far as the midweek guys- it's become obvious to me that Lemonis is only going to pitch our better guys if we have a lead. If not he's going to throw just whoever is in the pen. That's not a good way to go especially if you are trying to make a comeback. He obviously has a rigid plan and it usually does work as long as we have the lead but if we don't he doesn't know what to do or how to handle it. He has to get to a point where he is OK throwing our better pitchers when we are behind.

[Todd4State]

Small, Ginn, Plumlee, Leibelt, Barlow, Gordon are the top tier, after that you've got what, White, James, and Eagan as the next tier? Everyone else after that? There's not not depth, is my point.

If James shouldn't see the mound vs SEC teams, then Leibelt and Barlow and White are who you wanted us to burn today. I'd rather save them for tomorrow than leave us with nothing and still lose today because the O didn't show up either way

But we CAN pitch guys more than one day and we can pitch guys on back to back days. This is the problem with saving- we're down 2-0 and haven't even seen Leibelt, Barlow, or White yet.

[shannondawg]

On the bright side their RF cannot play tomorrow after being ejected in 7th.

My lousy reception and buffering complete missed , why did he get ejected.

[Todd4State]

My lousy reception and buffering complete missed , why did he get ejected.

Arguing balls and strikes with the umpire.

[MarketingBully]

It doesn't have anything to do with how any of them did in the Cape. Guys like Plumlee, Gordon (ERA over 7 now), Keegan, and Self should be able to throw strikes and pitch better. And they should be contributing more and performing better than they did and in Gordon's case better than we have. We didn't challenge the strike zone at all.

As far as the midweek guys- it's become obvious to me that Lemonis is only going to pitch our better guys if we have a lead. If not he's going to throw just whoever is in the pen. That's not a good way to go especially if you are trying to make a comeback. He obviously has a rigid plan and it usually does work as long as we have the lead but if we don't he doesn't know what to do or how to handle it. He has to get to a point where he is OK throwing our better pitchers when we are behind.

We will lose a lot of games we should win with that philosophy. If Leibelt comes in instead of James when we were down 5-0, we have a tremendously better chance to win that game. 5 runs was nothing against their pitching staff. With the pitchers we put in at that point; we had no chance to win.

[MarketingBully]

We are not going to beat Arkansas by 10 runs, bc they can hit it as well. We screwed the pooch with the bed shitting at UT. Could have and should have had a road sweep. Our bullpen is our biggest liability, and tonight our approach at the plate was terrible.

I bet we do unless our top tier guys just pitch like shit. They are going to pitch their worst and we will be pitching our best. That doesn’t bode well for them.

[MarketingBully]

My lousy reception and buffering complete missed , why did he get ejected.

He was an idiot and argued balls and strikes.

[CadaverDawg]

It doesn't have anything to do with how any of them did in the Cape. Guys like Plumlee, Gordon (ERA over 7 now), Keegan, and Self should be able to throw strikes and pitch better. And they should be contributing more and performing better than they did and in Gordon's case better than we have. We didn't challenge the strike zone at all.

As far as the midweek guys- it's become obvious to me that Lemonis is only going to pitch our better guys if we have a lead. If not he's going to throw just whoever is in the pen. That's not a good way to go especially if you are trying to make a comeback. He obviously has a rigid plan and it usually does work as long as we have the lead but if we don't he doesn't know what to do or how to handle it. He has to get to a point where he is OK throwing our better pitchers when we are behind.

But they are NOT throwing strikes. Self gets hammered when he does throw strikes. Gordon has at least proven himself....James has never done squat. Yet we keep running him out there in big spots on SEC weekends. Did I miss the year that James had great control and proved to be a valuable SEC pitcher?

[MarketingBully]

16 walks would equal 16 foul poles for all pitchers ..
Inexcusable to walk that many batters.
Luckily they only scored 12..

They stranded something like 18 or so. It could have been a hell of a lot worse.

[MarketingBully]

But they are NOT throwing strikes. Self gets hammered when he does throw strikes. Gordon has at least proven himself....James has never done squat. Yet we keep running him out there in big spots on SEC weekends. Did I miss the year that James had great control and proved to be a valuable SEC pitcher?

James is bouncing 94 mph fastball to the plate and expecting Skelton to catch them. The first inning he was in there he walks the lead off batter and wild pitches the runner around and the runner ends up scoring because of his wildness. They didn’t even get a hit that inning. I’d keep James in mid-week until he proves he can throw strikes consistently.

[maroonmania]

But they are NOT throwing strikes. Self gets hammered when he does throw strikes. Gordon has at least proven himself....James has never done squat. Yet we keep running him out there in big spots on SEC weekends. Did I miss the year that James had great control and proved to be a valuable SEC pitcher?

Starting to feel like this team just doesn't have enough dependable pitching to make a really deep tournament run. If you look at it overall, very few guys you can feel good about when they come out to pitch. Biggest wtf for me for the weekend is why in a game that was a 2 run and then a 1 run game on Thursday night at 3-2, we ran Self back out there when Leibelt or Barlow seemed to be the obvious option. And Gordon has got to get himself back to some resemblance of what he was at the end of last year or we are in a world of hurt. For game 2 it was Plumlee, James and Gordon that gave up all the runs. All of those are upperclass veterans that you need to be able to have some confidence in. On top of that, we've got a real issue at 3rd base to go along with somewhat shaky infield defense as well. Still can't believe how bad Westburg screwed up that double play ball in the first inning. He could have taken it himself or immediately flipped to Foscue but he did the only thing he couldn't do which was to take 2 or 3 steps toward 2nd and THEN flip. Just a really bad play.

[BiscuitEater]

Just swing at everything jake shit

Apparently, this was your 'first time' to see Jake play! Stats for the last 3.5 years .. Jake doesn't strike out much or walk much. And, yes he swings at some pitches most shouldn't.

[MarketingBully]

Starting to feel like this team just doesn't have enough dependable pitching to make a really deep tournament run. If you look at it overall, very few guys you can feel good about when they come out to pitch. Biggest wtf for me for the weekend is why in a game that was a 2 run and then a 1 run game on Thursday night at 3-2, we ran Self back out there when Leibelt or Barlow seemed to be the obvious option. And Gordon has got to get himself back to some resemblance of what he was at the end of last year or we are in a world of hurt. For game 2 it was Plumlee, James and Gordon that gave up all the runs. All of those are upperclass veterans that you need to be able to have some confidence in. On top of that, we've got a real issue at 3rd base to go along with somewhat shaky infield defense as well. Still can't believe how bad Westburg screwed up that double play ball in the first inning. He could have taken it himself or immediately flipped to Foscue but he did the only thing he couldn't do which was to take 2 or 3 steps toward 2nd and THEN flip. Just a really bad play.

We’ve played like dog shit all the way around these last two games from pitching, fielding, to batting. If we come out today and salvage game 3 and pound their shitty pitching like we should, I’m not going to be that concerned going forward. We have got to come out and set the tone early and put up a crooked ****ing number in the first. I feel like our hitting has let our pitching down. There is no ****ing excuse to have not scored 10+ runs on their pitching yesterday and today. Their pitchers other then their ace and Cronin are dog shit.

[MarketingBully]

And just for frame of reference, Alabama has a better pitching staff then Arkansas does. What we have done at the plate this weekend is embarrassing.

[RocketDawg]

My lousy reception and buffering complete missed , why did he get ejected.

He got a called strike three on a pitch that was probably a ball, and expressed his disgust with the call to the plate umpire. He could have gotten away with that, but on the way to the dugout he looked back over his shoulder and started jawing again. That was what got him tossed. One of our guys argued a bit later but got away with it. Apparently he didn't just keep driving his point so stayed in the game.

My reception was fine up until I quit watching a little after 10. The picture isn't the best in the world but I didn't have any buffering.

[maroonmania]

We?ve played like dog shit all the way around these last two games from pitching, fielding, to batting. If we come out today and salvage game 3 and pound their shitty pitching like we should, I?m not going to be that concerned going forward. We have got to come out and set the tone early and put up a crooked ****ing number in the first. I feel like our hitting has let our pitching down. There is no ****ing excuse to have not scored 10+ runs on their pitching yesterday and today. Their pitchers other then their ace and Cronin are dog shit.

Yesterday, we had a whopping 5 hits. Given that we were probably fortunate even to get the 5 runs we got.

[WPS]

I bet we do unless our top tier guys just pitch like shit. They are going to pitch their worst and we will be pitching our best. That doesn?t bode well for them.

Arkansas still has one of their better relievers left in Kostyshock, but he hasn?t pitched in 2 weeks due to a sore elbow. Was hitting 97 before that though. Other than that it will probably be a lot of piecing together one guy an inning depending how long Noland lasts. Arkansas is also without Cody Scroggins who has started some Sunday games this year so that doesn?t help.

Our pitching staff has been hot and cold all year. In SEC play we’re actually 3rd in opposing batting average which is really good. Wicklander is a lot better than his ERA indicates, he’s been dominant as a starter but we’ve also tried pitching him in relief and he was terrible for whatever reason which inflated his ERA. He’s likely our Friday night guy next year.

I wouldn’t get too hung up on the outcome of this series. I mean you guys swept us last year and we felt like the sky was falling but then we nearly played each other for the National Championship. I’ve been impressed with the fan support you guys have brought to Fayetteville, definitely the most visiting fans we’ve had all year.