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MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:30 PM
Not sure why Self is on the mound right now
Me either. Really first head scratcher coaching decisions from Lemonis coming tonight.
MetEdDawg
04-18-2019, 10:31 PM
He better not leave 85 over the plate or it will get destroyed
Self starting this inning is not what I would have done
Liverpooldawg
04-18-2019, 10:32 PM
lol are you serious? I simply don't believe you've been watching the game. He's been inconsistent on the outside corner as well as what's low. Inside corner is all hes' been consistent on, and the pitchers rarely use it since they can get 4+ inches off the plate as often as not
He is dead on. The dude's zone sucks, but it consistently sucks nothing wrong with that,
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:32 PM
He better not leave 85 over the plate or it will get destroyed
Self starting this inning is not what I would have done
None of us on the board either. This is a Gary Henderson type of pitching decision.
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:34 PM
Basically Lemonis is rolling the dice and seeing if he can save the rest of the bullpen for the rest of the weekend. Playing the long game or big picture.
KOdawg1
04-18-2019, 10:35 PM
Lol, can I say ballgame now?
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:35 PM
And that’s why you don’t start Self in the eighth.
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 10:35 PM
Me either. Really first head scratcher coaching decisions from Lemonis coming tonight.
Really shocking that we tried to squeeze 2 innings out of Self tonight. Not sure what Lemonis/Foxall were thinking.
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:35 PM
Basically Lemonis is rolling the dice and seeing if he can save the rest of the bullpen for the rest of the weekend. Playing the long game or big picture.
Lemonis just rolled snake eyes there.
Skydawg1
04-18-2019, 10:35 PM
effing shittt
MetEdDawg
04-18-2019, 10:35 PM
Eagan should have been in there to run these lefties. I simply don't understand that at all leaving Self in there
mparkerfd20
04-18-2019, 10:36 PM
Oh well maybe tomorrow
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:36 PM
Really shocking that we tried to squeeze 2 innings out of Self tonight. Not sure what Lemonis/Foxall were thinking.
It was dumb as shit if you thought you could win this game.
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 10:36 PM
None of us on the board either. This is a Gary Henderson type of pitching decision.
Probably on the second time I have really 2nd guessed Lemon all year other than smaller decisions like starting Halter over Gilbert.
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 10:37 PM
It was dumb as shit if you thought you could win this game.
It's a one run game with Mac-Fosc-Jordan up. Of course you think you can win the game.
CadaverDawg
04-18-2019, 10:37 PM
Lol at our coaches not knowing Self throws BP when we've all known it all year. Oh well....now the goal is don't get swept
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:38 PM
It's a one run game with Mac-Fosc-Jordan up. Of course you think you can win the game.
Then don’t leave Self in.
KOdawg1
04-18-2019, 10:38 PM
Lol at our coaches not knowing Self throws BP when we've all known it all year. Oh well....now the goal is don't get swept
Yep. Win tomorrow or Saturday to salvage one. Frustrating loss tonight.
Lord McBuckethead
04-18-2019, 10:39 PM
Guys, we can physically score 3 in an inning. Not out of the realm of possiblity. But we kind of need to keep them from adding more. We had a pretty weak performance tonight. Reminds me of Tuesdays game. Just not ready to compete.
KOdawg1
04-18-2019, 10:39 PM
LOL @ those saying Gilbert was better than Halter on defense.
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:40 PM
If Gilbert starts the game, he doesn’t make that goof up.
MetEdDawg
04-18-2019, 10:40 PM
Westburg HAS to go get that ball. What the hell is he doing just standing there?
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 10:40 PM
Well considering on numerous occasions I've mentioned I played and coached high school, you must not be paying attention.
All his stuff on the black to two inches off can be hit opposite field. We aren't doing that. But trust me, if you would rather go down the way we are going down tonight, which is 50% of our outs being strikeouts be my guest.
You will lose every time, so let me know when my kids can play your kids
go look at @tberk20 on twitter. Former MSU player. He has a good pic of the strike on Rowdey. If you coach your team to swing at that, then I would love to play you every game.
MetEdDawg
04-18-2019, 10:41 PM
If Gilbert starts the game, he doesn’t make that goof up.
If he has to be in a game a long time to catch an infield pop up on the dirt he doesn't need to play ever
maroonmania
04-18-2019, 10:41 PM
Lemonis must just consider this a throw away game to have kept Self in this long. You know Self is going to give up a long ball if he stays in for long.
Lord McBuckethead
04-18-2019, 10:41 PM
How is a big guy like self not pitch harder than 85?
KOdawg1
04-18-2019, 10:41 PM
delete
MetEdDawg
04-18-2019, 10:42 PM
go look at @tberk20 on twitter. Former MSU player. He has a good pic of the strike on Rowdey. If you coach your team to swing at that, then I would love to play you every game.
Why would I coach my team to do that? But in game you adjust. That pitch isn't a strike. It's a garbage pitch and he shouldn't swing.
That's the only one all night that was that bad. Only one. Everything else has been hittable with a two inch zone expansion. So explain the other 9 strikeouts
maroonmania
04-18-2019, 10:43 PM
Guess Self took away any drama to this game.
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:43 PM
Well in the long run you are trading a loss here for two possible wins. Arkansas pitching from here on out is a crap shoot and Ginn is probably the leagues best Sunday starter. Just wasn’t our night. We can get the tail end of the series.
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:44 PM
How is a big guy like self not pitch harder than 85?
Because he throws cutter. An elite cutter is Hudson’s at 91. An 85 mph cutter isn’t too bad but depends on the placement.
maroonmania
04-18-2019, 10:44 PM
And that is why we should have had somebody else pitching the 8th.
KOdawg1
04-18-2019, 10:45 PM
Freaking moronic to have Self out there in a one run game.
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 10:45 PM
Well in the long run you are trading a loss here for two possible wins. Arkansas pitching from here on out is a crap shoot and Ginn is probably the leagues best Sunday starter. Just wasn’t our night. We can get the tail end of the series.
FCK!()$&$()&()$
Liverpooldawg
04-18-2019, 10:46 PM
Win one up there and we are good. Baseball perspective folks. Funny thing, I ain't even a baseball fan. I'd sell the whole program, and the stadium, for one SEC title in football, and you should too , IF you have the University's national brand at heart. I still keep up and I LOVE the New Dude. I took off to go to the opener, and have been back since. If we have ever done something right athletic facility wise at MSU, the New Dude is it. It's still college baseball, which usually has ratings that lag behind college softball, Baseball is a pro based sport. Good game up there, no matter the outcome.
MetEdDawg
04-18-2019, 10:46 PM
I hope one of our guys asks Lemonis after this game why not Eagan against those lefties.
Cost us a much better chance at extra innings or winning this game
CadaverDawg
04-18-2019, 10:46 PM
Ha! Who else knew we'd score 1 run when Self gave up that bomb? I can't be the only one
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 10:47 PM
I hope one of our guys asks Lemonis after this game why not Eagan against those lefties.
Cost us a much better chance at extra innings or winning this game
Eagan, Barlow, Gordon, White, anyone. I mean anyone.
Lord McBuckethead
04-18-2019, 10:48 PM
Rowdey, wow that was a shitty at bat.
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:48 PM
Ha! Who else knew we'd score 1 run when Self gave up that bomb? I can't be the only one
Yeah, it was Lemonis’ dumbest moment as a coach here but he will look like a genius if we win the next two because we were able to knock out and drive up their closer’s pitch count making him useless the rest of the weekend.
maroonmania
04-18-2019, 10:49 PM
Win one up there and we are good. Baseball perspective folks. Funny thing, I ain't even a baseball fan. I'd sell the whole program, and the stadium, for one SEC title in football, and you should too , IF you have the University's national brand at heart. I still keep up and I LOVE the New Dude. I took off to go to the opener, and have been back since. If we have ever done something right athletic facility wise at MSU, the New Dude is it. It's still college baseball, which usually has ratings that lag behind college softball, Baseball is a pro based sport. Good game up there, no matter the outcome.
Like it or not, the only 2 sports we have a legitimate chance at a Natty are in Baseball and WBB. Even to have a chance at an SEC football title we would need a very down year in the league.
MetEdDawg
04-18-2019, 10:49 PM
Eagan, Barlow, Gordon, White, anyone. I mean anyone.
Well Eagan was out there warming up for the exact situation that happened. That string of lefties that came up. It just boggles my mind Self was the guy we went to against that.
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:50 PM
Lost but Cronin is burnt for the weekend at 30 pitches. Their pitching staff is ass now. Now we need two straight wins and we have our full bullpen.
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 10:50 PM
Yeah, it was Lemonis’ dumbest moment as a coach here but he will look like a genius if we win the next two because we were able to knock out and drive up their closer’s pitch count making him useless the rest of the weekend.
Huh? That makes no sense at all. What does that have to do with Self pitching the 8th? We could have thrown any guy in our bullpen and we wouldn't be burned for the rest of the weekend.
Lord McBuckethead
04-18-2019, 10:50 PM
Well thats baseball. Good coaching to everyone. Good approach by everyone at the plate.
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 10:51 PM
Lost but Cronin is burnt for the weekend at 30 pitches. Their pitching staff is ass now. Now we need two straight wins and we have our full bullpen.
Umm, no. Cronin can easily come back on Saturday. Damn.
CadaverDawg
04-18-2019, 10:52 PM
Self should only see the mound in midweek games that we are leading by 8+ runs going into the 9th. How does our staff not realize that? You don't win road SEC series with dumb coaching decisions...and throwing your White Flag in a one run game is the type of shit that earns you getting swept.
RougeDawg
04-18-2019, 10:52 PM
Why did we leave Self in? He was struggling and we had a Lefty Lefty matchup warm in the pen. This L is on coaching and getting picked off of 1st in the 1st.
MetEdDawg
04-18-2019, 10:52 PM
Lost but Cronin is burnt for the weekend at 30 pitches. Their pitching staff is ass now. Now we need two straight wins and we have our full bullpen.
Cronin will be available Saturday. Had he gotten over 40 I would think otherwise but he will be available Saturday
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 10:52 PM
Win one up there and we are good. Baseball perspective folks. Funny thing, I ain't even a baseball fan. I'd sell the whole program, and the stadium, for one SEC title in football, and you should too , IF you have the University's national brand at heart. I still keep up and I LOVE the New Dude. I took off to go to the opener, and have been back since. If we have ever done something right athletic facility wise at MSU, the New Dude is it. It's still college baseball, which usually has ratings that lag behind college softball, Baseball is a pro based sport. Good game up there, no matter the outcome.
Honestly, if that's the way you feel, cool for you, but I would rather you not post in another baseball game thread. Baseball is very important to a larger portion of our fanbase.
Todd4State
04-18-2019, 10:52 PM
Ha! Who else knew we'd score 1 run when Self gave up that bomb? I can't be the only one
I can't say that I knew- but I can say that it didn't surprise me.
Make bad moves and the baseball gods teach you lessons.
KOdawg1
04-18-2019, 10:52 PM
Lost but Cronin is burnt for the weekend at 30 pitches. Their pitching staff is ass now. Now we need two straight wins and we have our full bullpen.
He's not burnt.
Dawg2003
04-18-2019, 10:53 PM
Like it or not, the only 2 sports we have a legitimate chance at a Natty are in Baseball and WBB. Even to have a chance at an SEC football title we would need a very down year in the league.
I agree. Trying to win any kind of championship in football is a sunk cost fallacy. We need to keep it good enough to make money off of it, but that's all we'll get.
Todd4State
04-18-2019, 10:53 PM
Cronin will be available Saturday. Had he gotten over 40 I would think otherwise but he will be available Saturday
I don't know. I thought he had some injury issues?
Nevermind forgot this was Thursday.
Homedawg
04-18-2019, 10:53 PM
Umm, no. Cronin can easily come back on Saturday. Damn.
For sure.
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 10:53 PM
Self should only see the mound in midweek games that we are leading by 8+ runs going into the 9th. How does our staff not realize that? You don't win road SEC series with dumb coaching decisions...and throwing your White Flag in a one run game is the type of shit that earns you getting swept.
No one knows why. It was truly a mind boggling decision especially with the lefties coming up. Oh well, the first real fck up by Lemon.
CadaverDawg
04-18-2019, 10:53 PM
Yeah, it was Lemonis? dumbest moment as a coach here but he will look like a genius if we win the next two because we were able to knock out and drive up their closer?s pitch count making him useless the rest of the weekend.
No
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:54 PM
Umm, no. Cronin can easily come back on Saturday. Damn.
I doubt he will even be needed. Our pitching staff is a lot better now. Seriously, the guy that started tonight is their only good starting pitcher. They will start their backup QB on Saturday vs Ginn. A true freshman tomorrow against Plumlee. I like our chances the rest of the weekend.
RougeDawg
04-18-2019, 10:54 PM
Rowdey, wow that was a shitty at bat.
Why are you surprised? His discipline at the plate has been non existent all season. He got lucky on the AB before with a cement mixer over plate.
MetEdDawg
04-18-2019, 10:54 PM
I don't know. I thought he had some injury issues?
Didn't look like it tonight. His breaking ball sucks but his FB is good. And with only 30 pitches I would think in a series like this if they have a one run lead on Saturday they are probably sending him back out there
Todd4State
04-18-2019, 10:55 PM
No
Exactly. Then we'll be frustrated that we didn't sweep. Or win the series. Or whatever the case is.
KOdawg1
04-18-2019, 10:55 PM
Just don't get swept
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:57 PM
Exactly. Then we'll be frustrated that we didn't sweep. Or win the series. Or whatever the case is.
I think we will end up winning the series and see this as one we could have swept. Arkansas pitching is horrible other then Cronin and Campbell.
Todd4State
04-18-2019, 10:58 PM
I doubt he will even be needed. Our pitching staff is a lot better now. Seriously, the guy that started tonight is their only good starting pitcher. They will start their backup QB on Saturday vs Ginn. A true freshman tomorrow against Plumlee. I like our chances the rest of the weekend.
I've seen Tony LaRussa who is the best manager I have ever seen IMO make moves that screwed up the Cardinals from getting to the postseason before. Every manager makes poor decisions from time to time. It's not a big deal as long as it is not a consistent issue.
It seemed like all night we were very slow to bring in guys from the pen. Small was struggling and we just left him out there too. It just feels to me like at times we have a poor feel of who to pitch when.
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 10:59 PM
Didn't look like it tonight. His breaking ball sucks but his FB is good. And with only 30 pitches I would think in a series like this if they have a one run lead on Saturday they are probably sending him back out there
His breaking ball was horrible so all he had was his fastball. We hit him pretty damn hard too. I think we will feast on these pitchers in the 2nd and 3rd game.
Skydawg1
04-18-2019, 11:00 PM
I think we will end up winning the series and see this as one we could have swept. Arkansas pitching is horrible other then Cronin and Campbell.I agree, and I hope we're both right. Just can't get swept this weekend.
Todd4State
04-18-2019, 11:02 PM
I think we will end up winning the series and see this as one we could have swept. Arkansas pitching is horrible other then Cronin and Campbell.
I agree and I hope so. But it's yet another frustrating "we should have swept this team" series if that indeed happens. We probably could have swept USM, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, and we'll see about Arkansas. We should have won the series against LSU as well. I know and understand that things happen in baseball but it always seems like some BS happens every weekend (except for Alabama) and it's always something different. We should be running away with the SEC right now.
And yes- if given the choice between complaining about not sweeping and losing a series give me this option all day long.
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 11:04 PM
I've seen Tony LaRussa who is the best manager I have ever seen IMO make moves that screwed up the Cardinals from getting to the postseason before. Every manager makes poor decisions from time to time. It's not a big deal as long as it is not a consistent issue.
It seemed like all night we were very slow to bring in guys from the pen. Small was struggling and we just left him out there too. It just feels to me like at times we have a poor feel of who to pitch when.
The difference in this game was simple. Arkansas SP took advantage of the bizarre strike zone the ump had and Small did until one shitty inning where he inexplicably pitched 4 straight BP fastballs. We were slow to get him out and they took a 3-1 lead. If that game is tied 2-2, Self is not in the ball game in the 8th. That extra run was the difference in Lemonis making a dumb decision. Sucks but hey we are 32-7. I do think we take two because I doubt very seriously anyone’s strike zone will be as bad as Walsh’s was tonight and we will have the pitching advantage the rest of the weekend.
Activated Alpha
04-18-2019, 11:04 PM
I think we will end up winning the series and see this as one we could have swept. Arkansas pitching is horrible other then Cronin and Campbell.
Said the same thing regarding LSU, but our hitters made their pitching staff look like all stars. Our adjustments were terrible, but Walsh sucked. That 1st strike on Foscue was the 3rd strike on the lead off walk by small in the 6th. Same damn spot. Different calls.
I seen it dawg
04-18-2019, 11:05 PM
Sec loss on road. It happens. They aren't just gonna roll over.
HoopsDawg
04-18-2019, 11:05 PM
I agree and I hope so. But it's yet another frustrating "we should have swept this team" series if that indeed happens. We probably could have swept USM, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, and we'll see about Arkansas. We should have won the series against LSU as well. I know and understand that things happen in baseball but it always seems like some BS happens every weekend (except for Alabama) and it's always something different. We should be running away with the SEC right now.
And yes- if given the choice between complaining about not sweeping and losing a series give me this option all day long.
You can't really control all of the would have, could have, should have crap. What can be controlled is the managers making sound decisions to give you the best chance to win. But like I said, it's really the first glaring fck up Lemon has had. Better now than in June.
Todd4State
04-18-2019, 11:06 PM
The difference in this game was simple. Arkansas SP took advantage of the bizarre strike zone the ump had and Small did until one shitty inning where he inexplicably pitched 4 straight BP fastballs. We were slow to get him out and they took a 3-1 lead. If that game is tied 2-2, Self is not in the ball game in the 8th. That extra run was the difference in Lemonis making a dumb decision. Sucks but hey we are 32-7. I do think we take two because I doubt very seriously anyone’s strike zone will be as bad as Walsh’s was tonight and we will have the pitching advantage the rest of the weekend.
Bingo.
the_real_MSU_is_us
04-18-2019, 11:07 PM
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/stats/baseball/2019/2019%20Arkansas%20Baseball%20Stats.pdf
Arky has 3 pitchers with ERA's under 2.5, Campbell and Cronin being 2 of them. Ginn, Plumlee, and the entire staff ready to go gives us a solid chance to win 2. I'm calling it 20% chance e get swept, 30% we win the series, 50% we take 1.
CadaverDawg
04-18-2019, 11:10 PM
You can't really control all of the would have, could have, should have crap. What can be controlled is the managers making sound decisions to give you the best chance to win. But like I said, it's really the first glaring fck up Lemon has had. Better now than in June.
I agree. I just get really ****ing frustrated when guys making hundreds of thousands of dollars coaching baseball get outcoached by thousands of fans watching from their couch and getting paid nothing. Every State fan with eyes knew Self shouldn't have been out there....but our coaches didn't? In the grand scheme it's not a big loss, and I'm not really upset....I just tend to get frustrated with stupidity, and that was just a really dumb decision. Oh well, on to tomorrow
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 11:12 PM
Bingo.
Hey I know it looks like I’m defending Lemonis. Would I have had Self out there in the eighth? Hell no. I’m just trying in my mind to understand why a guy who basically pitches one pitch is out there with a one run deficit. I think I would have gone White in the eighth to face the righties and put Barlow in the ninth to face the lefties. This isn’t rocket science. You could of literally gone match ups for the eighth and ninth and you probably win the game. But the positive is we have all those guys fresh ready to go for the next two games****
tcdog70
04-18-2019, 11:12 PM
Two lead off walks and they both score. Plus Jake getting picked off cost us a run, maybe more.
MarketingBully
04-18-2019, 11:14 PM
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/stats/baseball/2019/2019%20Arkansas%20Baseball%20Stats.pdf
Arky has 3 pitchers with ERA's under 2.5, Campbell and Cronin being 2 of them. Ginn, Plumlee, and the entire staff ready to go gives us a solid chance to win 2. I'm calling it 20% chance e get swept, 30% we win the series, 50% we take 1.
They’re starting a true freshman tomorrow (not good) and a back up QB on Saturday. If Plumlee pitches like he had the last two weeks, we will take two.
Skydawg1
04-18-2019, 11:14 PM
Meanwhile, in a laugher game, Duplantis with 4 hits. Jake had one hit tonight.
Liverpooldawg
04-18-2019, 11:16 PM
Like it or not, the only 2 sports we have a legitimate chance at a Natty are in Baseball and WBB. Even to have a chance at an SEC football title we would need a very down year in the league.
Yeah, but the only one we have spent any time at #1 at recently has been football. We CAN do it in football, if our poor old whooped down MSU attitudes will let us. Those attitudes include the "we will never do it" and the "we could do it NOW if only we had the right coach" idiots. The truth is somewhere in between. It won't be easy, and it won't be a "hire the right guy" thing. What we HAVE to do isJeep the floor up, no matter WHO the coach is. You have to look at this over the long haul. Keeping the FLOOR up consistently is WAY more important than elevating the ceiling in one particular year.
Todd4State
04-18-2019, 11:17 PM
Hey I know it looks like I’m defending Lemonis. Would I have had Self out there in the eighth? Hell no. I’m just trying in my mind to understand why a guy who basically pitches one pitch is out there with a one run deficit. I think I would have gone White in the eighth to face the righties and put Barlow in the ninth to face the lefties. This isn’t rocket science. You could of literally gone match ups for the eighth and ninth and you probably win the game. But the positive is we have all those guys fresh ready to go for the next two games****
Self if you look at his numbers has actually been pretty effective in short one inning sometimes even two inning stints. So, that at THAT point really wasn't that bad a move. But he's not Riley Self 2017 where he can go 3-5 IP. He's also much better against RH hitters. But we all know what the problem here was- he was overextended and he was left in to face a LH hitter while overextended.
Sometimes the only way to explain something is it was a bad move. A mistake.
And I'm not sure that this was about saving people. It was just a bad move.
Todd4State
04-18-2019, 11:20 PM
Yeah, but the only one we have spent any time at #1 at recently has been football. We CAN do it in football, if our poor old whooped down MSU attitudes will let us. Those attitudes include the "we will never do it" and the "we could do it NOW if only we had the right coach" idiots. The truth is somewhere in between. It won't be easy, and it won't be a "hire the right guy" thing. What we HAVE to do isJeep the floor up, no matter WHO the coach is. You have to look at this over the long haul. Keeping the FLOOR up consistently is WAY more important than elevating the ceiling in one particular year.
Do you REALLY want to compare how many times our baseball team- currently ranked #2-3 has been ranked #1 in the country historically compared to football? MSU baseball has actually played for National Titles before. MSU football hasn't yet. That's why our fans care about baseball.
Skydawg1
04-18-2019, 11:33 PM
Anyone else think PM calls it quits after this year? They suck, and the future looks bleak, plus the new Aggie AD. He gone.
CadaverDawg
04-18-2019, 11:40 PM
Anyone else think PM calls it quits after this year? They suck, and the future looks bleak, plus the new Aggie AD. He gone.
Yeah, he may get some encouragement to call it quits. I will not be surprised at all if he "retires" after this season
Todd4State
04-18-2019, 11:45 PM
Anyone else think PM calls it quits after this year? They suck, and the future looks bleak, plus the new Aggie AD. He gone.
Your logic is plausible. However, I just don't think it happens.
He's two years off of a National Finals runner up and SEC Championship and he can play the injury card this year. He'll probably clean house with his assistants too.
Lord McBuckethead
04-18-2019, 11:54 PM
Meanwhile, in a laugher game, Duplantis with 4 hits. Jake had one hit tonight.
Worst part, Mangum saw q total of 7 pitches tonight for the entire game.
Skydawg1
04-18-2019, 11:56 PM
Your logic is plausible. However, I just don't think it happens.
He's two years off of a National Finals runner up and SEC Championship and he can play the injury card this year. He'll probably clean house with his assistants too.We shall see. I'll just sit back and enjoy the shadenfruade. (sp?) I know I should just enjoy the fact that my own damn school is in the thick of it, but I just love seeing those dipshits getting killed on Friday nights and midweeks. Bwuuuahahahaha
Liverpooldawg
04-19-2019, 12:35 AM
Do you REALLY want to compare how many times our baseball team- currently ranked #2-3 has been ranked #1 in the country historically compared to football? MSU baseball has actually played for National Titles before. MSU football hasn't yet. That's why our fans care about baseball.
Absolutely! We got more national exposure from that one deal than we have from the entire baseball program in it's storied but flawed history. College baseball is a complete niche sport. If our fans care more for it than football, then that's why football is where it is. It explains a LOT. There is a reason ESPN gives more exposure during the regular season to softball.
Liverpooldawg
04-19-2019, 12:40 AM
We won't even get into Morgan William's shot to beat UCONN. That one single shot, in another toatal niche sport, has given more exposure to MSU nationally than the entire sum of our athletic program combined to date. Yeah, I totally agree, that sucks. That being said you can NOT ignore that perspective if you want to truely evaluate MSU athletics.
Liverpooldawg
04-19-2019, 12:46 AM
We won't even get into Morgan William's shot to beat UCONN. That one single shot, in another toatal niche sport, has given more exposure to MSU nationally than the entire sum of our athletic program combined to date. Yeah, I totally agree, that sucks. That being said you can NOT ignore that perspective if you want to truely evaluate MSU athletics.
That is NOT "Poor Old MSU" by the way. It recognizes just how special that was, along with the highs for our baseball program, the Final Four in Men's basketball, and the SEC West title in football actually were. Eliminating "poor old MSU" first and foremost means recognizing where we are actually starting from and recognizing success measured against US. Until we do that we will never have success against the rest.
Todd4State
04-19-2019, 12:56 AM
We shall see. I'll just sit back and enjoy the shadenfruade. (sp?) I know I should just enjoy the fact that my own damn school is in the thick of it, but I just love seeing those dipshits getting killed on Friday nights and midweeks. Bwuuuahahahaha
If you can't enjoy LSU losing to Southern you just can't get any pleasure out of life.
Absolutely! We got more national exposure from that one deal than we have from the entire baseball program in it's storied but flawed history. College baseball is a complete niche sport. If our fans care more for it than football, then that's why football is where it is. It explains a LOT. There is a reason ESPN gives more exposure during the regular season to softball.
Baseball is a niche sport but it has nothing to do with why our football team is where it is. ESPN gives as much exposure to college baseball as it does softball. If it doesn't- it's political. We can be good at both. Like a lot of SEC schools. No one outside of MSU people remember us being ranked number one anymore.
Dawg2003
04-19-2019, 06:39 AM
Two lead off walks and they both score. Plus Jake getting picked off cost us a run, maybe more.
I don't think Jake getting picked off cost us a run. Everyone that followed him struck out.
Dawg2003
04-19-2019, 06:44 AM
Worst part, Mangum saw q total of 7 pitches tonight for the entire game.
Is Mangum in a "slump?" What a slump is for him anyway. He usually gets multiple hits a game, but it doesn't seem like that's happening lately.
Scared_Hitless
04-19-2019, 08:37 AM
Is Mangum in a "slump?" What a slump is for him anyway. He usually gets multiple hits a game, but it doesn't seem like that's happening lately.
I think Jake is kinda feeling the pressure of breaking the record. I think once he gets that mark which should happen in the next week we will see him come alive. Also its baseball and he is still hitting right at .400
tcdog70
04-19-2019, 10:52 AM
I don't think Jake getting picked off cost us a run. Everyone that followed him struck out.
Nope Tanner singled through to right side.it would have been 1st and 3td with. 1out. Mac woold have scored him on ground out.
BuckyIsAB****
04-19-2019, 12:05 PM
Absolutely! We got more national exposure from that one deal than we have from the entire baseball program in it's storied but flawed history. College baseball is a complete niche sport. If our fans care more for it than football, then that's why football is where it is. It explains a LOT. There is a reason ESPN gives more exposure during the regular season to softball.
I'd be willing to bet you whatever you wanted that college baseball has WAY higher ratings than college softball. Look up ESPNs tv programming schedule including the SEC network and prove to me college softball gets more coverage than baseball does. I think you just dont like baseball
maroonmania
04-19-2019, 04:31 PM
I think Jake is kinda feeling the pressure of breaking the record. I think once he gets that mark which should happen in the next week we will see him come alive. Also its baseball and he is still hitting right at .400
I've never seen Jake this impatient at the plate and that is saying something. He is literally swinging at anything and everything.
MetEdDawg
04-19-2019, 05:08 PM
I've never seen Jake this impatient at the plate and that is saying something. He is literally swinging at anything and everything.
The hit he got was poorly hit too. Ball bounced 3 feet in front of home plate off the bat. He just hit it literally in the only spot the infield couldn't get it based on their positioning.
He needs to see better and more pitches. His hitting the last week or so is why MLB teams are concerned about him going forward. He either hits 1 or 8 in the majors. If he can't show plate discipline and the ability to work counts, he's not gonna hit leadoff. So he hits in the 8 hole. You aren't spending a decent draft pick on an senior, undersized CF with no power and a quick bat trigger to hit in your 8 hole.
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