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Rayburn8
04-14-2019, 12:14 AM
Bin 612 is the one mentioned specifically, told people to leave during the tornado stuff and got the cops involved. Heard some stuff that is a bad look for everyone involved.

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Had friends there, take your bar business elsewhere like Bulldog Burger and the Guestroom which actually tried to help people.


EDIT: To add the Bin had a whole basement people could have hid in.

EDIT: Video, WARNING Language


https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1117308433957625856/pu/vid/320x690/F5bxS7d9yoDuiFJK.mp4?tag=8

RocketDawg
04-14-2019, 12:24 AM
Bin 612 is the one mentioned specifically, told people to leave during the tornado stuff and got the cops involved. Heard some stuff that is a bad look for everyone involved.

https://twitter.com/wtvajoel/status/1117277278919114752?s=21

Had friends there, take your bar business elsewhere like Bulldog Burger and the Guestroom which actually tried to help people.

That's terrible. What were they thinking?

KOdawg1
04-14-2019, 12:31 AM
Delete

parabrave
04-14-2019, 12:59 AM
They got it on video. The weatherman on WTVA keeps on showing it. If Cops were hlping kick these kids out they need to be fired 1st thing monday morning.

Rayburn8
04-14-2019, 01:02 AM
They got it on video. The weatherman on WTVA keeps on showing it. If Cops were hlping kick these kids out they need to be fired 1st thing monday morning.

Students are starting to rally on Twitter, interesting to see if the Bin has built enough good will with people to survive this.

ScoobaDawg
04-14-2019, 01:04 AM
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MetEdDawg
04-14-2019, 07:42 AM
Anyone that patrons that place is directly contributing to blatant ignorance of an extremely dangerous and deadly situation.

RC3
04-14-2019, 07:59 AM
I found myself in a tough situation last night. I own an event venue and there was a performance going on during the storm. As the property owner, you start thinking about liability, etc in this type of situation and how to make sure everyone is safe. I informed the organizers that we were in the path of a severe storm and possible tornado and had previously shown them where there was a county storm shelter just one block away. I then let them make the decision on what to do.

Dawg2003
04-14-2019, 08:21 AM
But they have good cheese fries.

Joe Schmedlap
04-14-2019, 08:35 AM
The Bin is just managed so unprofessionally. I tried to eat there on a Saturday of the LSU baseball weekend. Well, they only had a "limited" menu that day. WTF? A limited menu on one the biggest SEC baseball weekends of the year. Astoundingly stupid. Now this gaffe of kicking people out to potentially fly away to OZ in a twister...

sleepy dawg
04-14-2019, 08:36 AM
Somebody else can learn to make cheese fries.

This is a f*ck*ng disgrace. This shouldn't even be legal.

Saltydog
04-14-2019, 08:43 AM
Yeah, I read Lynn Spruill's statement above and she indicated to file a report with the police but there's not a damn thing anyone can do if it's on private property. I'm not condoning this whatsoever, it's unacceptable, but just not sure anything can be done. Luckily though, everyone was o.k.

Dawg2003
04-14-2019, 09:53 AM
Maybe, just maybe, it's unwise to draw broad sweeping conclusions from a minute long video posted on Twitter.

Dawg2003
04-14-2019, 09:55 AM
The Bin is just managed so unprofessionally. I tried to eat there on a Saturday or f the LSU baseball weekend. Well, they only had a "limited" menu that day. WTF? A limited menu on one the biggest SEC baseball weekends of the year. Astoundingly stupid. Now this gaffe of kicking people out to potentially fly away to OZ in a twister...

Offering a limited menu isn't unprofessional.

KOdawg1
04-14-2019, 10:03 AM
Maybe, just maybe, it's unwise to draw broad sweeping conclusions from a minute long video posted on Twitter.

Yeah, because countless kids with the same story are just making it up. The Bin is catching hell and they deserve every bit of it

Sparrows2
04-14-2019, 10:17 AM
It’s private property
Would it have been Christian for them to allow people to stay? Yep
Would it have been good buisiness? Yes

Did people have a right to stay? Nope
Did they and people on this board to break the “outrage” glass and go full melt?
Don’t know, but I am contemplating this morning the apparent relative definition of “entitled”, “snowflake” and “socialist”
Apparently “self reliance”, “private property” are situational
Or maybe the difference between the first set of terms and second isn’t binary but a continuum with extremes

Coach007
04-14-2019, 10:30 AM
That's terrible. What were they thinking?

They weren't.

Most likely they had no protocol in place due to not thinking this could occur.

Coach007
04-14-2019, 10:40 AM
It’s private property
Would it have been Christian for them to allow people to stay? Yep
Would it have been good buisiness? Yes

Did people have a right to stay? Nope
Did they and people on this board to break the “outrage” glass and go full melt?
Don’t know, but I am contemplating this morning the apparent relative definition of “entitled”, “snowflake” and “socialist”
Apparently “self reliance”, “private property” are situational
Or maybe the difference between the first set of terms and second isn’t binary but a continuum with extremes

Let's explore this from the private property and private business aspect.

- Let's assume they have the right to throw people out in the middle of a tornado. Do people have the right to make others aware of the business and their policy? I know that personally, I would want to know. If my kids are out and visit that location and a tornado appeared, then I would like for them to at least be aware that this place will shut down and kick you out.

- People have the right to make others aware of the policy of that business. IF it causes them to lose business, it's their policy that did so. No.. they are not entitled to be there.

- I don't like snowflakes. This isn't a snowflake idea to allow people safety in the middle of an active tornado. Complaining that a place is kicking you out in the middle of an active tornado is self preservation.

MrKotter
04-14-2019, 10:45 AM
Students are starting to rally on Twitter, interesting to see if the Bin has built enough good will with people to survive this.
A Twitter rally. Oh how scary. I bet they?ll be just fine

Sparrows2
04-14-2019, 10:50 AM
I am very tempted to say the analog to “ what do you call a liberal the morning after they are mugged? A conservative”
Is
“ what do you call a capitalist during a tornado? A socialist”

Instead I will say that you are correct in your first post, the bar should have had a pre established plan on what to do in case of emergency.
If they did and this was it everyone has the right to evaluate emergency storm plans vs good cheesy fries

Dawg2003
04-14-2019, 10:58 AM
Yeah, because countless kids with the same story are just making it up. The Bin is catching hell and they deserve every bit of it

Where you there? Did you see what happened? What does the restaurant say happened? Those are questions that need to be answered before making a judgement.

Dawg2003
04-14-2019, 10:59 AM
A Twitter rally. Oh how scary. I bet they?ll be just fine

A lot of people still don't realize that Twitter isn't real life.

Rayburn8
04-14-2019, 10:59 AM
Maybe, just maybe, it's unwise to draw broad sweeping conclusions from a minute long video posted on Twitter.

How about making conclusions based off multiple first hand accounts of friends who were there?

Rayburn8
04-14-2019, 11:01 AM
A lot of people still don't realize that Twitter isn't real life.


Lol I’m amazed at the lengths people on this board go to be anti-student in every situation.

I’m conservative as it gets as are most of the people complaining. A private business has the right to kick out but that private citizens also have a right to spread the word about businesses and make the market react a certain way. That’s how a free market works.

Calling everytime people get upset about a bad business practice snowflakes is getting old.

The rallying means that students are getting unified behind not going. They’ve pissed off the hand that feeds them, and with how many students are on Twitter it is a good indication of student opinion. The Bin is going to lose a lot of business over this.

Sometimes I wonder if y’all can critically think for two seconds.

Jarius
04-14-2019, 11:06 AM
Where you there? Did you see what happened? What does the restaurant say happened? Those are questions that need to be answered before making a judgement.

I know enough people that were there to know that whoever you’re trying to take up for needs their ass whipped.

KOdawg1
04-14-2019, 11:09 AM
Where you there? Did you see what happened? What does the restaurant say happened? Those are questions that need to be answered before making a judgement.

I have a good friend who was. I'm sorry you really like Bin 612 and feel the need to defend them, but it was shitty what they did.

KOdawg1
04-14-2019, 11:11 AM
I am very tempted to say the analog to ? what do you call a liberal the morning after they are mugged? A conservative?
Is
? what do you call a capitalist during a tornado? A socialist?

Instead I will say that you are correct in your first post, the bar should have had a pre established plan on what to do in case of emergency.
If they did and this was it everyone has the right to evaluate emergency storm plans vs good cheesy fries

I don't think you even know what the hell you're saying. I sure as hell don't.

Coach007
04-14-2019, 11:14 AM
A lot of people still don't realize that Twitter isn't real life.

Where you there? Did you see what happened? What does the restaurant say happened? Those are questions that need to be answered before making a judgement.



When you have a video of security telling them to get 'F' out and people saying they have no place to go and that they have a basement. It's pretty clear man.

KOdawg1
04-14-2019, 11:15 AM
https://youtu.be/EAo99HflFUY

Coach007
04-14-2019, 11:18 AM
I am very tempted to say the analog to ? what do you call a liberal the morning after they are mugged? A conservative?
Is
? what do you call a capitalist during a tornado? A socialist?


Sweet Jesus...

No. Again.. the system operated the way it should:

- They had the right to kick the out. It sucks on their part.
- The people there have a right to voice that policy and their displeasure of it.
- The Bin will live or die due to their policy.


This is not somebody targeting them for their political or religious belief to shut them down. Has nothing to do with it.

Dawg2003
04-14-2019, 11:22 AM
I know enough people that were there to know that whoever you’re trying to take up for needs their ass whipped.

You seem nice.

Dawg2003
04-14-2019, 11:26 AM
I have a good friend who was. I'm sorry you really like Bin 612 and feel the need to defend them, but it was shitty what they did.

I have never been there and have no vested interest. First hand accounts are valuable and should be taken into consideration. We also need to hear what Bin 612 has to say. Making judgments from a one minute Twitter video is irrational.

KOdawg1
04-14-2019, 11:34 AM
I have never been there and have no vested interest. First hand accounts are valuable and should be taken into consideration. We also need to hear what Bin 612 has to say. Making judgments from a one minute Twitter video is irrational.

Bin 612 isn't saying shit and they aren't going to because they know they screwed up.

Coach007
04-14-2019, 11:37 AM
I have never been there and have no vested interest. First hand accounts are valuable and should be taken into consideration. We also need to hear what Bin 612 has to say. Making judgments from a one minute Twitter video is irrational.

No... I don't think this is irrational.

When you have a video:

- showing security forcing people out
- people saying they have no place to go
- people making them aware their is a basement...

That's pretty clear. You tell me, what can the Bin say that will make that situation better? It didn't happen? What can they say, in your mind, that changes the story to acceptable?

Coach007
04-14-2019, 11:38 AM
Bin 612 isn't saying shit and they aren't going to because they know they screwed up.

They should say something... and quickly. Being honest and moving forward is the best situation for everybody. People died from this storm in this area.

WinningIsRelentless
04-14-2019, 11:48 AM
I had friends who are in their 30?s there and they verified everything.

You can say it?s private property; but, when you openly invite people into your establishment then you have to plan in place for emergencies. I wouldn?t be surprised to see them have their business license/liquor license pulled over this.

Dawg2003
04-14-2019, 11:52 AM
Bin 612 isn't saying shit and they aren't going to because they know they screwed up.

Maybe they'll say something. Maybe they won't. Social media mobs usually go away when you ignore them. People will have forgotten about this by next week and will be on to the next Twitter outrage.

BeastMan
04-14-2019, 11:52 AM
The Bin should have allowed Patrons to stay in the basement. I would absolutely allow patrons in to the safest place possible in my job. It?s the right human thing to do. The flip-side is that these students have absolutely zero excuse for going out drinking with weather like that on the way. Going to a bar during a tornado warning is idiotic. Both The Bin and the students deserve idiot awards. The most egregious thing I see in this situation is the police escalating a tense and potentially dangerous situation.

Dawg2003
04-14-2019, 11:59 AM
No... I don't think this is irrational.

When you have a video:

- showing security forcing people out
- people saying they have no place to go
- people making them aware their is a basement...

That's pretty clear. You tell me, what can the Bin say that will make that situation better? It didn't happen? What can they say, in your mind, that changes the story to acceptable?

I do understand how a minute of video can paint a picture, but it might not be representative of the entire picture. Maybe it is, but you don't know unless you were there. If you have first hand sources, I'd vet the sources. It's like taking a quote out of context.

Sparrows2
04-14-2019, 12:02 PM
I had friends who are in their 30?s there and they verified everything.

You can say it?s private property; but, when you openly invite people into your establishment then you have to plan in place for emergencies. I wouldn?t be surprised to see them have their business license/liquor license pulled over this.

This is a perfect example of why social media can’t be allowed to drive our society
1. There is no affirmative requirement to have a storm shelter to have a liquor license.
2. An acceptable storm plan for that building may be to evacuate the building
3 no, a one minute video doesn’t tell you what happened before the video or after the video

And just like migrants don’t have a right to come to our country because theirs is crappy you don’t have a right to go in private property.
Yes you do have a right to be critical on Twitter just like the liberals have a right to complain about trumps immigration policy

Should people worry less about “rights” and more about wwjd? Yes

msbulldog
04-14-2019, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I read Lynn Spruill's statement above and she indicated to file a report with the police but there's not a damn thing anyone can do if it's on private property. I'm not condoning this whatsoever, it's unacceptable, but just not sure anything can be done. Luckily though, everyone was o.k.

Salty something can be done! Just don't spend your money there, it won't take long till they're closed!

starkvegasdawg
04-14-2019, 12:17 PM
This is a perfect example of why social media can’t be allowed to drive our society
1. There is no affirmative requirement to have a storm shelter to have a liquor license.
2. An acceptable storm plan for that building may be to evacuate the building
3 no, a one minute video doesn’t tell you what happened before the video or after the video

And just like migrants don’t have a right to come to our country because theirs is crappy you don’t have a right to go in private property.
Yes you do have a right to be critical on Twitter just like the liberals have a right to complain about trumps immigration policy

Should people worry less about “rights” and more about wwjd? Yes

I can assure you no acceptable storm plan is to evacuate the building unless you're in a mobile home in which case they advise to leave before storms arrive.

WinningIsRelentless
04-14-2019, 12:19 PM
This is a perfect example of why social media can’t be allowed to drive our society
1. There is no affirmative requirement to have a storm shelter to have a liquor license.
2. An acceptable storm plan for that building may be to evacuate the building
3 no, a one minute video doesn’t tell you what happened before the video or after the video

And just like migrants don’t have a right to come to our country because theirs is crappy you don’t have a right to go in private property.
Yes you do have a right to be critical on Twitter just like the liberals have a right to complain about trumps immigration policy

Should people worry less about “rights” and more about wwjd? Yes

You sir are an idiot! First off I wasn?t relying on college kids social media post, I was going off first hand information from adults who are in their 30?s. Neither of which are even in social media so good try.

1) to get a liquor license you have to comply with ms department of health level 2 risk assessment and proved an emergency plan. In no way would an emergency plan pass if it was stated during a tornado warning kick everyone out into the street during said warning. Use some damn common sense.

2) refer to one and common sense about kicking everyone out during a tornado warning.

Further on that if someone had been killed because they were forced out could the business be charged with negligible homicide?

3) reading comprehension is a great skill to have. I said I spoke to friends in their 30?s who were there. I?m not relying on a damn video.

And don?t bring political crap into this. Your argument is completely backwards. We don?t have a open border with Mexico but Bin 612 has a open door policy because they are a business. Bin 612 isn?t some high dollar name on the list to gain entry place.

You sir are the problem with America today.

Sparrows2
04-14-2019, 12:29 PM
You sir are an idiot! First off I wasn?t relying on college kids social media post, I was going off first hand information from adults who are in their 30?s. Neither of which are even in social media so good try.

1) to get a liquor license you have to comply with ms department of health level 2 risk assessment and proved an emergency plan. In no way would an emergency plan pass if it was stated during a tornado warning kick everyone out into the street during said warning. Use some damn common sense.

2) refer to one and common sense about kicking everyone out during a tornado warning.

Further on that if someone had been killed because they were forced out could the business be charged with negligible homicide?

3) reading comprehension is a great skill to have. I said I spoke to friends in their 30?s who were there. I?m not relying on a damn video.

And don?t bring political crap into this. Your argument is completely backwards. We don?t have a open border with Mexico but Bin 612 has a open door policy because they are a business. Bin 612 isn?t some high dollar name on the list to gain entry place.

You sir are the problem with America today.

Actually it’s not reading comprehension that is the problem but LISTENING comprehension
The bar employees clearly say they are not letting people in and they are leaving:
Instead of the narrative that the employees kicked people out and stayed in safety it seems to me the employees left to a safer location and were not allowing people in

Again you don’t have a right to enter someone property especially if it a buisiness that is closing

msbulldog
04-14-2019, 12:30 PM
I know enough people that were there to know that whoever you?re trying to take up for needs their ass whipped.


You seem nice.

If my daughter had been in that crowd last night, I would be in there today asking who made that decision to kick the people out. I assure you when I found that person a mud hole would be stomped.

Rayburn8
04-14-2019, 12:34 PM
I do understand how a minute of video can paint a picture, but it might not be representative of the entire picture. Maybe it is, but you don't know unless you were there. If you have first hand sources, I'd vet the sources. It's like taking a quote out of context.

You realize you reach a point when you hear something from over a dozen reliable sources it is probably true right?

It isn’t just the video or just the sources, the combo of the two is what is damning.

WinningIsRelentless
04-14-2019, 12:37 PM
This is a perfect example of why social media can’t be allowed to drive our society
1. There is no affirmative requirement to have a storm shelter to have a liquor license.
2. An acceptable storm plan for that building may be to evacuate the building
3 no, a one minute video doesn’t tell you what happened before the video or after the video

And just like migrants don’t have a right to come to our country because theirs is crappy you don’t have a right to go in private property.
Yes you do have a right to be critical on Twitter just like the liberals have a right to complain about trumps immigration policy

Should people worry less about “rights” and more about wwjd? Yes


Actually it’s not reading comprehension that is the problem but LISTENING comprehension
The bar employees clearly say they are not letting people in and they are leaving:
Instead of the narrative that the employees kicked people out and stayed in safety it seems to me the employees left to a safer location and were not allowing people in

Again you don’t have a right to enter someone property especially if it a buisiness that is closing

You clearly have a reading comprehension problem! I said I had friends who were inside and got kicked out!

And you said wwjd? I don?t know what god you believe in but mine would offer shelter and not put others in harms way.

BeastMan
04-14-2019, 12:39 PM
You clearly have a reading comprehension problem! I said I had friends who were inside and got kicked out!

And you said wwjd? I don?t know what god you believe in but mine would offer shelter and not put others in harms way.

The business has a responsibility to the guest to help them in that event. They chose to be open and take patrons money despite the weather. There should be no debate about that. You gotta be smarter than going out drinking during a serious weather event like that though. Grab a bottle and bunker down at home. Invites friends over. Whatever.

Rayburn8
04-14-2019, 12:39 PM
This is a perfect example of why social media can?t be allowed to drive our society
1. There is no affirmative requirement to have a storm shelter to have a liquor license.
2. An acceptable storm plan for that building may be to evacuate the building
3 no, a one minute video doesn?t tell you what happened before the video or after the video

And just like migrants don?t have a right to come to our country because theirs is crappy you don?t have a right to go in private property.
Yes you do have a right to be critical on Twitter just like the liberals have a right to complain about trumps immigration policy

Should people worry less about ?rights? and more about wwjd? Yes

Ah there is is. You’re not really conservative, you are just anti-liberal. A private business has the right to kick people out, and the free market is reacting accordingly to those actions. This is literally a conservative free market in action, but all you can focus on is an anti-social media, anti-liberal narrative.

Once again, I’m going off multiple first hand accounts from reliable friends, the video just confirms what I heard, it is a supplementary source.

BeardoMSU
04-14-2019, 12:40 PM
And you said wwjd? I don?t know what god you believe in but mine would offer shelter and not put others in harms way.

The inn is full**

Rayburn8
04-14-2019, 12:44 PM
Actually it’s not reading comprehension that is the problem but LISTENING comprehension
The bar employees clearly say they are not letting people in and they are leaving:
Instead of the narrative that the employees kicked people out and stayed in safety it seems to me the employees left to a safer location and were not allowing people in

Again you don’t have a right to enter someone property especially if it a buisiness that is closing


And what is your source on that? Because I have a dozen that say different?

And you’re right, the business has a right to kick people out and people have a right to react and choose not to go there and spread the word about what happened, it’s called a free market. You’d know that is your were the real conservative you are trying to act like you are.

WinningIsRelentless
04-14-2019, 12:47 PM
The business has a responsibility to the guest to help them in that event. They chose to be open and take patrons money despite the weather. There should be no debate about that. You gotta be smarter than going out drinking during a serious weather event like that though. Grab a bottle and bunker down at home. Invites friends over. Whatever.

I bet next time they won?t go out for the fear of being kicked out into the storm.

Rayburn8
04-14-2019, 12:49 PM
The business has a responsibility to the guest to help them in that event. They chose to be open and take patrons money despite the weather. There should be no debate about that. You gotta be smarter than going out drinking during a serious weather event like that though. Grab a bottle and bunker down at home. Invites friends over. Whatever.

I agree about people not going there, but FWIW all that we heard on campus all week was rain and that the game would get moved. People never talked about it like it?d be a bad cell till that night. I consider myself incredibly weather aware but to my knowledge I was just told it was a bad thunderstorm until I got the Maroon Alert text.

The majority of what I saw online about weather was concerned with the stuff that could effect the game, not the stuff Saturday night.

Sparrows2
04-14-2019, 12:50 PM
And what is your source on that? Because I have a dozen that say different?

Listen to the second recording the employees very clearly say they are not letting people in and are leaving

I just don’t get it
The employees are leaving and I assume locking the building to get somewhere safe
What are people saying?
That the employees have a duty to stay because they work in a bar?

It just seems to me that everyone is for freedom and property rights until it’s inconvenient to them personally.
So I have come to believe there are no liberals or conservatives just a bunch of people arguing over money and who is the better person

Rayburn8
04-14-2019, 01:18 PM
Listen to the second recording the employees very clearly say they are not letting people in and are leaving

I just don’t get it
The employees are leaving and I assume locking the building to get somewhere safe
What are people saying?
That the employees have a duty to stay because they work in a bar?

It just seems to me that everyone is for freedom and property rights until it’s inconvenient to them personally.
So I have come to believe there are no liberals or conservatives just a bunch of people arguing over money and who is the better person

People are saying “hey this business did this thing most people consider immoral, if you consider this immoral, know this business did this and you may not want to go here.”

Why is that wrong? It is just the free market reacting to a bad choice.

Coach007
04-14-2019, 01:23 PM
Actually it’s not reading comprehension that is the problem but LISTENING comprehension
The bar employees clearly say they are not letting people in and they are leaving:
Instead of the narrative that the employees kicked people out and stayed in safety it seems to me the employees left to a safer location and were not allowing people in

Again you don’t have a right to enter someone property especially if it a buisiness that is closing

The video is clear... "Everybody get the F*** out" from employees. Nobody here has said the employees stated they were staying.

For the record.. most here know I support the border issue etc. This is not that. at all.

- these are not kids. They are of legal age and adults.
- they have to own up to their part in their safety
- the business has no obligation to allow them to stay, but it was the right thing to do.
- because the business acted in the manner it did, people have the right to voice their opinion.
- that business, JUST LIKE THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM, has to own up to their part in this. They will get back lash from people.

Coach007
04-14-2019, 01:25 PM
The inn is full**

but gave them a place none the less

Coach007
04-14-2019, 01:30 PM
Listen to the second recording the employees very clearly say they are not letting people in and are leaving

I just don’t get it
The employees are leaving and I assume locking the building to get somewhere safe
What are people saying?
That the employees have a duty to stay because they work in a bar?

It just seems to me that everyone is for freedom and property rights until it’s inconvenient to them personally.
So I have come to believe there are no liberals or conservatives just a bunch of people arguing over money and who is the better person

Nobody is doing that. Everybody is saying it was wrong to do what the bar elected to do.

- You and everybody agree they have the right to do that.
- We are saying that because of their actions (their right), other have reacted
- and the others have a right to react to the bar's policies.

This is no different in the cake baker.

somebodyshotmypaw
04-14-2019, 01:41 PM
If my daughter had been in that crowd last night, I would be in there today asking who made that decision to kick the people out. I assure you when I found that person a mud hole would be stomped.

Would you have also stomped a mud hole in your daughter for making the decision to go out during a major storm instead of staying home? Just curious.

BorneDawg
04-14-2019, 02:18 PM
Just a question. If they had packed the basement with people and the tornado hit the building and it killed people would they be liable?

ScoobaDawg
04-14-2019, 02:29 PM
Keep the politics out of this or you will get a few days off. No place for that. You can voice your dumb opinion that a business can legally be open without being safe. But it's well known they have a basement.
The mayor has asked this be reported and investigated. the local media will be following up on this. This is not a twitter spat by "snowflakes" . This was almost a very dangerous situation..

dantheman4248
04-14-2019, 02:31 PM
This thread is full of absolutely disgusting people. Y’all really hate us students. Wow.

None of us are saying the bin should be required to house people. It’s private property. They can do what they want. Freedom of speech and all that.

But freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. You wanna have a policy to put people on the street in times of severe weather threats... people don’t have to go there.

Honestly, would you willingly go somewhere that throws you outside when a tornado is less than 2 miles away? If you would that’s cool, but if not then the BIN has shown they are not the place for you.

People don’t like to be treated like that. It’s not illegal, but it’s not good southern hospitality.

So with that, as private citizens we have 0 obligation to give them any business. Therefore a lot of us are not going to. I love going there, but I cannot in good conscience give money to an establishment that would treat me like that. You don’t have to if you’re into being treated like garbage. Keep going by all means if that’s your thing. Or maybe teach them a lesson in what happens when you treat the patrons of your bar like dogshit.

WinningIsRelentless
04-14-2019, 02:32 PM
Just a question. If they had packed the basement with people and the tornado hit the building and it killed people would they be liable?

No they were offering shelter. It would be a act of god.

deadheaddawg
04-14-2019, 02:48 PM
It’s private property
Would it have been Christian for them to allow people to stay? Yep
Would it have been good buisiness? Yes

Did people have a right to stay? Nope
Did they and people on this board to break the “outrage” glass and go full melt?
Don’t know, but I am contemplating this morning the apparent relative definition of “entitled”, “snowflake” and “socialist”
Apparently “self reliance”, “private property” are situational
Or maybe the difference between the first set of terms and second isn’t binary but a continuum with extremes

Holy crap you are a stupid person.

Also just an FYI, because you are clearly an idiot, You are melting and being a snowflake. So STFU

Sparrows2
04-14-2019, 02:49 PM
Keep the politics out of this or you will get a few days off. No place for that. You can voice your dumb opinion that a business can legally be open without being safe. But it's well known they have a basement.
The mayor has asked this be reported and investigated. the local media will be following up on this. This is not a twitter spat by "snowflakes" . This was almost a very dangerous situation..

1st The mayor doesn’t a damn thing to do with a private buisiness other than the fact some police were reported to be involved
2nd the discussion involved here is about private property and the “responsibility” to protect others that exists so by definition it’s either political or religious. If you don’t like either than lock the thread not just threaten to ban people you disagree with

Damn now this is what is wrong with the country
People not understanding what the principals that are discussin nor willing to listen to the other side

ScoobaDawg
04-14-2019, 02:50 PM
1st The mayor doesn’t a damn thing to do with a private buisiness other than the fact some police were reported to be involved
2nd the discussion involved here is about private property and the “responsibility” to protect others that exists so by definition it’s either political or religious. If you don’t like either than lock the thread not just threaten to ban people you disagree with

Damn now this is what is wrong with the country
People not understanding what the principals that are discussin nor willing to listen to the other side

Your stupid or a troll.. either way. See ya

deadheaddawg
04-14-2019, 02:50 PM
Maybe, just maybe, it's unwise to draw broad sweeping conclusions from a minute long video posted on Twitter.

Holy crap. You are also an idiot

Dawg2003
04-14-2019, 02:53 PM
You realize you reach a point when you hear something from over a dozen reliable sources it is probably true right?

It isn?t just the video or just the sources, the combo of the two is what is damning.

Ummm. . . . that's what I said. You don't just use a video out of context to draw a conclusion. If you have first hand accounts, you vet the sources. A big missing piece is what Bin 612 has to say. I'd never draw a conclusion without hearing both sides.

dantheman4248
04-14-2019, 02:55 PM
Ummm. . . . that's what I said. You don't just use a video out of context to draw a conclusion. If you have first hand accounts, you vet the sources. A big missing piece is what Bin 612 has to say. I'd never draw a conclusion without hearing both sides.


Ya know... OJ wrote a book saying “if I did it” but I’m not drawing any conclusions until I hear his wife’s side of it.

ScoobaDawg
04-14-2019, 02:58 PM
Ya know... OJ wrote a book saying “if I did it” but I’m not drawing any conclusions until I hear his wife’s side of it.

I'm sorry I had to laugh that you were referencing something you weren't even born for I'm certain.

But i get your point

hopsondawg22
04-14-2019, 03:24 PM
Boomer with the terrible take go figure. Can?t wait for y?all to die off, for a litany of reasons. I?m glad this idiotic situation didn?t escalate into something horrific.

Lord McBuckethead
04-14-2019, 03:32 PM
Bin 612 is the one mentioned specifically, told people to leave during the tornado stuff and got the cops involved. Heard some stuff that is a bad look for everyone involved.

1117277278919114752
Had friends there, take your bar business elsewhere like Bulldog Burger and the Guestroom which actually tried to help people.


EDIT: To add the Bin had a whole basement people could have hid in.

EDIT: Video, WARNING Language


https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1117308433957625856/pu/vid/320x690/F5bxS7d9yoDuiFJK.mp4?tag=8

Yeah, the Bin612 basement could hold maybe 4 people. First off, I am sure this was started by the police. It is their job to clear public congested areas when their is a direct threat, i.e. a tornado warning being issued. Having hundreds of people in an unsafe area is a great way for hundreds of people to die.

Also, they were told as soon as the tornado warning was issued to leave and find shelter. The Bin is not a safe place to be in a storm. Letting people stay there, when they were told 30 minutes before the action to leave is dangerous in its own right.

Now if everyone would take a moment and realize a place that has 100+ people there when its not a safe place for a tornado is a big deal. That is why the police always take it upon themselves to clear it out.

This is not a Bin issue. This is not a Starkville Police issue. This is an issue with adults not heeding a warning and the cops having to take action. Boycotts for Bin in this scenario are stupid as shit. JMHO.

Lord McBuckethead
04-14-2019, 03:33 PM
Son if you have kids associated with this, you are shit at teaching your kids how to heed a tornado warning.

msstate7
04-14-2019, 03:37 PM
Boomer with the terrible take go figure. Can?t wait for y?all to die off, for a litany of reasons. I?m glad this idiotic situation didn?t escalate into something horrific.

Who is boomer?

Lord McBuckethead
04-14-2019, 03:37 PM
This thread is full of absolutely disgusting people. Y’all really hate us students. Wow.

None of us are saying the bin should be required to house people. It’s private property. They can do what they want. Freedom of speech and all that.

But freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. You wanna have a policy to put people on the street in times of severe weather threats... people don’t have to go there.

Honestly, would you willingly go somewhere that throws you outside when a tornado is less than 2 miles away? If you would that’s cool, but if not then the BIN has shown they are not the place for you.

People don’t like to be treated like that. It’s not illegal, but it’s not good southern hospitality.

So with that, as private citizens we have 0 obligation to give them any business. Therefore a lot of us are not going to. I love going there, but I cannot in good conscience give money to an establishment that would treat me like that. You don’t have to if you’re into being treated like garbage. Keep going by all means if that’s your thing. Or maybe teach them a lesson in what happens when you treat the patrons of your bar like dogshit.

Wow. Anyone know exactly how many people were there? 100, 200, 300?

hopsondawg22
04-14-2019, 03:40 PM
Baby boomer, you silly boomer.

Lord McBuckethead
04-14-2019, 03:40 PM
This thread is full of absolutely disgusting people. Y’all really hate us students. Wow.

None of us are saying the bin should be required to house people. It’s private property. They can do what they want. Freedom of speech and all that.

But freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. You wanna have a policy to put people on the street in times of severe weather threats... people don’t have to go there.

Honestly, would you willingly go somewhere that throws you outside when a tornado is less than 2 miles away? If you would that’s cool, but if not then the BIN has shown they are not the place for you.

People don’t like to be treated like that. It’s not illegal, but it’s not good southern hospitality.

So with that, as private citizens we have 0 obligation to give them any business. Therefore a lot of us are not going to. I love going there, but I cannot in good conscience give money to an establishment that would treat me like that. You don’t have to if you’re into being treated like garbage. Keep going by all means if that’s your thing. Or maybe teach them a lesson in what happens when you treat the patrons of your bar like dogshit.

This isn't freedom of speech, you do understand that the Bin is a terrible place to be in a tornado? Starkville PD and the Bin have to know this. To my knowledge, Tyler was not kicking people out of their basement. You know why, cause it actually is a relatively safe place to shelter.

Just the simple fact you mentioned freedom of speech here tells me everything I need to know.

Cooterpoot
04-14-2019, 03:46 PM
People lose their shit over being kicked out of a bar during a storm, but a lot of those same people have no problem drinking and jumping in a car and driving somewhere many nights.

hopsondawg22
04-14-2019, 03:48 PM
The bin was encouraging that behavior by kicking people out to seek shelter else where, another terrible take.

Cooterpoot
04-14-2019, 03:50 PM
The bin was encouraging that behavior by kicking people out to seek shelter else where, another terrible take.

Did I say they were right for doing it? No. You completely missed the point kid.

vv83
04-14-2019, 04:09 PM
Somebody else can learn to make cheese fries.

This is a f*ck*ng disgrace. This shouldn't even be legal.

Bin cheese fries suck go to 2 bros

msstate7
04-14-2019, 04:10 PM
Boomer with the terrible take go figure. Can?t wait for y?all to die off, for a litany of reasons. I?m glad this idiotic situation didn?t escalate into something horrific.

You can't wait for a whole generation to die off bc you dislike their views, and you accuse others of having a "terrible take". You sound like a petulant child.

Dawgowar
04-14-2019, 04:20 PM
So we all agree then? Our bad Big ten offense is the reason there was a tornado. The bar in question is a hub for marxist theory and eye witnesses can only be trusted if they complete all the proper paperwork? Oh, and you can't trust anything filmed. Go with those old 70's era news sketches.

Lord McBuckethead
04-14-2019, 04:54 PM
The bin was encouraging that behavior by kicking people out to seek shelter else where, another terrible take.

No. The Bin was doing what they should do. The Bin is not a 17 tornado shelter. If they let the 4 people into their cellar that would fit, what about the other 100s of folks. They told everyone to go home because that is what they should do.

You guys act like their was a tornado coming down the road in broad daylight and they locked the door as students ran up to the door.

Considering the tornado alarms went off 20 minutes before the storm was anywhere near downtown, you literally could have gone anywhere in starkville in that amount of time.

The simple fact is this. Businesses that do not have a safe area should not encourage 100s of drunk people to shelter in a place not safe for a tornado event unless it is absolutely critical. I live in starkville, the sirens started going off 20 minutes before the storm was close to campus or downtown. Not critical.

BuckyIsAB****
04-14-2019, 05:53 PM
Keep the politics out of this or you will get a few days off. No place for that. You can voice your dumb opinion that a business can legally be open without being safe. But it's well known they have a basement.
The mayor has asked this be reported and investigated. the local media will be following up on this. This is not a twitter spat by "snowflakes" . This was almost a very dangerous situation..

Cowbells didnt kick anyone out and put all of the patrons in their bathrooms (safest place in the building) and opened back up after the tornado passed. The tornado was also a few hundred feet away from cowbells and not across town like the Bin.

BuckyIsAB****
04-14-2019, 05:57 PM
Yeah, the Bin612 basement could hold maybe 4 people. First off, I am sure this was started by the police. It is their job to clear public congested areas when their is a direct threat, i.e. a tornado warning being issued. Having hundreds of people in an unsafe area is a great way for hundreds of people to die.

Also, they were told as soon as the tornado warning was issued to leave and find shelter. The Bin is not a safe place to be in a storm. Letting people stay there, when they were told 30 minutes before the action to leave is dangerous in its own right.

Now if everyone would take a moment and realize a place that has 100+ people there when its not a safe place for a tornado is a big deal. That is why the police always take it upon themselves to clear it out.

This is not a Bin issue. This is not a Starkville Police issue. This is an issue with adults not heeding a warning and the cops having to take action. Boycotts for Bin in this scenario are stupid as shit. JMHO.

The Police were there and tried to clear the area. I went thru the District a few minutes after the tornado passed and some of the other bars across the street reopened but the Bin and Gringos all shut down

sleepy dawg
04-14-2019, 07:17 PM
Politics and religion have nothing to do with this. No decent person forces anyone to leave their place in which they were welcome before in the middle of a tornado warning. If I feel safer there rather than running around outside or driving home drunk, you should let me stay there unless you're piece of sh*t.