Baseball game 2 v Bama

[chef dixon]

2-0 dawgs going bottom 5. Plumlee doing well. Dumbass for Bama just gifted us out of a jam with that bunt attempt.

[ShotgunDawg]

Unless Bama learns to hit soon, you gotta give Ginn the weekend off. We don't need him this weekend

[ShotgunDawg]

Surprised we just brought in James

[msbulldog]

Yep, who's going to start tomorrow?

[maroonmania]

Surprised we just brought in James

Me too, who starts tomorrow?

[chef dixon]

Maybe Eagan again

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Yep, who's going to start tomorrow?

Well we all know that if we win today it won't matter if we win or lose tomorrow's game. So who cares?***

[ShotgunDawg]

Maybe Eagan again

Probably right. Absolutely no point in pitching Ginn this weekend unless Bama has a Resurrection

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Well I'm sold on James out of the pen. give him a clean inning to start and let him rare back and get that FB up to 94, which I think will really make him more effective. As a starter he was trying to go 5+ innings and he'd get his his 2nd time through the order, as a reliever he can rare back a little more and give us 2-3 very solid innings. His control has always been pretty consistent so I think he'll be a really consistent long reliever.

Add in Plumlee suddenly becoming a very solid 3rd starter, Liebelt continuing to throw scoreless innings, and Gordon seemingly back to his good self, and I think this staff is REALLY shaking out like we needed it too. Assuming Ginn can get back to his healthy form of course

[ShotgunDawg]

Well I'm sold on James out of the pen. give him a clean inning to start and let him rare back and get that FB up to 94, which I think will really make him more effective. As a starter he was trying to go 5+ innings and he'd get his his 2nd time through the order, as a reliever he can rare back a little more and give us 2-3 very solid innings. His control has always been pretty consistent so I think he'll be a really consistent long reliever.

Add in Plumlee suddenly becoming a very solid 3rd starter, Liebelt continuing to throw scoreless innings, and Gordon seemingly back to his good self, and I think this staff is REALLY shaking out like we needed it too. Assuming Ginn can get back to his healthy form of course

I agree. We actually get quality production from Keegan out of the pen where he doesn't have to pace himself

[chef dixon]

Lemonis sucks at replay

[maroonmania]

He looked safe at 2nd unfortunately.

[maroonmania]

Probably right. Absolutely no point in pitching Ginn this weekend unless Bama has a Resurrection

Eventually they are going to score a few runs. Would feel better about this one if we had put up another run or two.

[Drugdog]

Lemonis is clueless about replay. My gosh he was soooo safe.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

WHy on earth are we bringing our Barlow? James is at 35 pitches so we're not saving him for tomorrow, and he was doing pretty well. He needs confidence, trusting him to get that 3rd out would probably help him out

[ShotgunDawg]

WHy on earth are we bringing our Barlow? James is at 35 pitches so we're not saving him for tomorrow, and he was doing pretty well. He needs confidence, trusting him to get that 3rd out would probably help him out

Matching up. I think James could give an inning tomorrow after 35 pitches

[ShotgunDawg]

Dang

Can't go first pitch fast ball with a pinch hitter. Geared up

[maroonmania]

WHy on earth are we bringing our Barlow? James is at 35 pitches so we're not saving him for tomorrow, and he was doing pretty well. He needs confidence, trusting him to get that 3rd out would probably help him out

Pretty stupid to bring Barlow in against a RH hitter. Just cost us a run.

[chef dixon]

Nice bounce back by Barlow there

[ShotgunDawg]

Pretty stupid to bring Barlow in against a RH hitter. Just cost us a run.

They pinch hit bro. We brought him in vs a lefty & they took the lefty out

[maroonmania]

And he summarily strikes out the LH hitter. James absolutely should have pitched to one more batter.

[maroonmania]

They pinch hit bro. We brought him in vs a lefty & they took the lefty out

OK, thanks for the clarification. I'm watching but with the sound down. Didn't realize it was a PH.

[Dawgcap]

Lemonis is clueless about replay. My gosh he was soooo safe.

Yeah because when we get a replay things work out!!

[chef dixon]

Pitcher wanted no part of giving Mangum something to hit there

[maroonmania]

Pitcher wanted no part of giving Mangum something to hit there

So he gave him the equivalent of a lead off single?? I don't think that was intentional.

[maroonmania]

Horrible at bat by Westy. For our offense to have such gaudy statistics, we don't put up a lot of runs in most of our SEC games.

[chef dixon]

So he gave him the equivalent of a lead off single?? I don't think that was intentional.

I didn't say intentional, he pitched scared

[maroonmania]

And Allen strikes out on a ball caught in the batter's box Allen's standing in.

[maroonmania]

And Big Mac goes yard! Gives us some breathing room. 5-1 now.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Horrible at bat by Westy. For our offense to have such gaudy statistics, we don't put up a lot of runs in most of our SEC games.

http://a.espncdn.com/sec/baseball/2019/SECOnlyStatistics.pdf

We're #1 in batting average, #1 in slugging %, #2 in OBP, and #2 in runs scored. I'm not seeing the problem

[maroonmania]

http://a.espncdn.com/sec/baseball/2019/SECOnlyStatistics.pdf

We're #1 in batting average, #1 in slugging %, #2 in OBP, and #2 in runs scored. I'm not seeing the problem

Not saying its a problem, but most SEC games we are scoring 4-6 runs. OK, but I see a lot of these other SEC teams scoring double digits at least once a weekend. The only SEC game we've gone off in offensively was the 20-15 game. A lot of our offensive stats are coming off our OOC games.

[Dawgcap]

Well I see the complainers are back in the game thread.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Bama bringing out a guy with 19 ip and a .49 era. Weird. You'd think they'd save him

[chef dixon]

Not saying its a problem, but most SEC games we are scoring 4-6 runs. OK, but I see a lot of these other SEC teams scoring double digits at least once a weekend. The only SEC game we've gone off in offensively was the 20-15 game. A lot of our offensive stats are coming off our OOC games.

We scored 10 against UF and 15 against Auburn in game 2. We have scored 5+ in 11 of 14

[maroonmania]

If all you want are sunshines and roses comments please LEAVE the game thread. Its ridiculous. I say positive when I see positive and negative when I see negative like a lot of other posters.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Not saying its a problem, but most SEC games we are scoring 4-6 runs. OK, but I see a lot of these other SEC teams scoring double digits at least once a weekend. The only SEC game we've gone off in offensively was the 20-15 game. A lot of our offensive stats are coming off our OOC games.

everything I posted was SEC only stats, OOC has nothing to do with it

[maroonmania]

We scored 10 against UF and 15 against Auburn in game 2. We have scored 5+ in 11 of 14

No doubt the Auburn weekend was a good one offensively.

[maroonmania]

everything I posted was SEC only stats, OOC has nothing to do with it

Yea, the 35 runs in 2 games against Auburn definitely helps the statistics. In our 5 losses we've scored 2, 5, 5, 2 and 1. 5 run 8th sort of makes the point moot in this game so nevermind.

[Dawgcap]

I’m not sunshine and roses but I tend to keep the bitching to myself until I see how things play out. I’ve been married 25 + years so I know when to keep it to myself. I’d be miserable if I complained about everything and so would she. But have at it

[Todd4State]

Not saying its a problem, but most SEC games we are scoring 4-6 runs. OK, but I see a lot of these other SEC teams scoring double digits at least once a weekend. The only SEC game we've gone off in offensively was the 20-15 game. A lot of our offensive stats are coming off our OOC games.

We lead the SEC in hitting slugging percentage and second in OBP in SEC only games as well. And we've probably improved those today.

http://a.espncdn.com/sec/baseball/2019/SECOnlyStatistics.pdf

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

If all you want are sunshines and roses comments please LEAVE the game thread. Its ridiculous. I say positive when I see positive and negative when I see negative like a lot of other posters.

For the record I have no problem with you or anyone pointing out flaws. I just disagree that our O doesn't score as much as it should. We see every failed scoring chance we have, but statistically there's still 12/13 SEC teams that are worse than us in SEC play. And for the record it's better to have your runs spread out vs have 1 huge game on the weekend. So if we're #2 in scoring but don't have big games, and a team that's #6ish does have 10+ runs in a game on the weekend, that means they really struggle to score in the other 2 games and we're consistently averaging more runs per series with less variability

[maroonmania]

If we can't discuss reactions to the game AS IT HAPPENS then a game thread is pretty useless. And we had a great offensive 8th inning!

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Gilbert showing why he's playing vs Halter

[HoopsDawg]

Gilbert showing why he's playing vs Halter

Nice having someone in the 9 hole with some power.

[maroonmania]

We lead the SEC in hitting slugging percentage and second in OBP in SEC only games as well. And we've probably improved those today.

http://a.espncdn.com/sec/baseball/2019/SECOnlyStatistics.pdf

We weren't helping it when the discussion started. We have a good offense no doubt, but it does disappear at times in the SEC. Three of our 5 losses we've scored 2 runs or less and the other 2 we've scored 5. It actually just seems worse to me than it is because we haven't won an SEC game all year where we have scored 5 runs or less.

[Todd4State]

If we can't discuss reactions to the game AS IT HAPPENS then a game thread is pretty useless. And we had a great offensive 8th inning!

Here's the thing about offense in baseball that a lot of fans don't realize. You're going to fail more than you succeed even if you are good. And because we closely follow MSU we see the flaws but we don't see others flaws as much. And when you stack it up we're actually better than most.

[maroonmania]

Here's the thing about offense in baseball that a lot of fans don't realize. You're going to fail more than you succeed even if you are good. And because we closely follow MSU we see the flaws but we don't see others flaws as much. And when you stack it up we're actually better than most.

I fully agree with that. I'm not really interested in dissecting things not going well for our opponents.

[Todd4State]

We weren't helping it when the discussion started. We have a good offense no doubt, but it does disappear at times in the SEC. Three of our 5 losses we've scored 2 runs or less and the other 2 we've scored 5. It actually just seems worse to me than it is because we haven't won an SEC game all year where we have scored 5 runs or less.

We're also on the verge of having 9 SEC wins. When you score five runs you should win most of the time. One the of the losses was in part because of a really weird/dumb play by our pitcher. One loss against LSU we hit a lot of balls right at people. The loss against Florida it took a web gem on defense or we win that one too. We've actually been a little but unlucky. But I'm not going to complain because we aren't winning low scoring games when we're scoring a lot of runs in the other 2/3 of them.

[Todd4State]

And we win! 9-1 MSU! Very solid win for us. Going to be interesting to see who we start tomorrow since Keegan pitched today. We hit a ton of bombs and picked up another series win. I know Alabama isn't great but these last two games have been our best all around so far.

[maroonmania]

Nice to have the series wrapped up given I have no clue what our pitching situation is tomorrow. Anyone heard any decisions on Ginn?

[tcdog70]

Shout out to Skelton, huge improvement. And if you throw him a mistake He will rope it

[Todd4State]

Ginn is starting tomorrow.

[MetEdDawg]

RPI up to #10. Got a couple of opponents that we've beaten that could help that out today based on the opponents they are playing.

[chef dixon]

I'd be shocked if we are planning on Ginn going more than 5 or so innings. I guess he must be 100% or there's really no reason to pitch him.

Also he may be transitioning to our Sunday guy just to keep the rest intervals consistent for him.

[MarketingBully]

Ginn is starting tomorrow.

And he said Ginn is 100% with no soreness whatsoever.

[MarketingBully]

I'd be shocked if we are planning on Ginn going more than 5 or so innings. I guess he must be 100% or there's really no reason to pitch him.

Also he may be transitioning to our Sunday guy just to keep the rest intervals consistent for him.

Ginn is 100%. Lemonis said full start. Said no soreness. I think everyone freaked out when they heard what happened last week and stated it worse then what it was.

[MarketingBully]

Oh and best start to a season since 1989. 30-6. Win tomorrow and we could jump to 1 imo.

[Homedawg]

As for lemonis and replay, he waited as long as he could and didn't have a great replay to see before he had to pull the trigger and Westburg told him to review it. He went w what the player thought wo a good look. I knew he was safe had a great angle but I can't blame him. Last night I would have challenged and he did and we were both wrong. Might as well doesn't hurt.

[MarketingBully]

As for lemonis and replay, he waited as long as he could and didn't have a great replay to see before he had to pull the trigger and Westburg told him to review it. He went w what the player thought wo a good look. I knew he was safe had a great angle but I can't blame him. Last night I would have challenged and he did and we were both wrong. Might as well doesn't hurt.

You were both right last night. Cumbest was safe but what can you do when the replay comes back wrong?

[Todd4State]

I'd be shocked if we are planning on Ginn going more than 5 or so innings. I guess he must be 100% or there's really no reason to pitch him.

Also he may be transitioning to our Sunday guy just to keep the rest intervals consistent for him.

We play a Thurs/Fri/Sat series next weekend so I would suspect he will be the Saturday guy next weekend. He may be 100% but we're still going to be pretty careful with him. I'm not worried even if he only goes three innings because we haven't pitched Cole Gordon yet and Leibelt should be available. Both could easily go 4-6 IP knowing that they probably aren't going to be used for Texas Southern anyway. We also have Self and Price and I could see us going back to Barlow for an IP or a LOOGY situation if needed.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I?m not sunshine and roses but I tend to keep the bitching to myself until I see how things play out. I?ve been married 25 + years so I know when to keep it to myself. I?d be miserable if I complained about everything and so would she. But have at it

25-years, You sound like a winner in life, congrats

Some dudes cannot balance immediate gratification and cannot execute a long term strategy or vision because minute by minute variations bother them too much

But game threads are about 75% hot takes

[BiscuitEater]

Not saying its a problem, but most SEC games we are scoring 4-6 runs. A lot of our offensive stats are coming off our OOC games.

So .. are you ok with 9 Runs, and winning by 8? NO .. those stats are 'SEC only.' Any other bitches?

[CadaverDawg]

We play a Thurs/Fri/Sat series next weekend so I would suspect he will be the Saturday guy next weekend. He may be 100% but we're still going to be pretty careful with him. I'm not worried even if he only goes three innings because we haven't pitched Cole Gordon yet and Leibelt should be available. Both could easily go 4-6 IP knowing that they probably aren't going to be used for Texas Southern anyway. We also have Self and Price and I could see us going back to Barlow for an IP or a LOOGY situation if needed.

Id love to see us come out scorching tomorrow and build about a 7 to 8 run lead through 4 innings....take Ginn out early and let guys like Self and Price give us 4 innings or so.

[Todd4State]

Id love to see us come out scorching tomorrow and build about a 7 to 8 run lead through 4 innings....take Ginn out early and let guys like Self and Price give us 4 innings or so.

Me too! I love it when we blow people out in baseball.