SBW severe weather threat.

[ScoobaDawg]

3 confirmed across the south yesterday. 2 children (8 and 3) were in the back seat of a car with their parents when a tree fell across it, killing the children.
1 killed in Hamilton, 95-year-old Roy Ratliff was killed when a tree fell on his house. 19 people were taken to hospitals for treatment, including two in critical condition.

https://www.wvtm13.com/article/reports-5-dead-after-tornado-strike-in-monroe-county-mississippi/27138621
https://www.wvtm13.com/article/children-killed-in-texas-storms-after-tree-falls-onto-car/27137882

[RocketDawg]

Just drive down Oktoc to look at damage. Lots of big mature hardwoods and pines snapped and uprooted. What surprised me, though, is that I saw no structural damage. Not saying there wasn't any, but it wasn't widespread. Houses that had huge trees down in their yard didn't even have shingles blown off.

Maybe the tornadic winds didn't actually touch the ground but stayed 30 or 40 feet up.

[starkvegasdawg]

Preliminary rating on Hamilton tornado is EF-2. Looking at it live on radar I would have bet the farm on it being at least a 4. Winds estimated around 130mph. I know I captured a screen shot of 136mph on my radar.

[Mjoelner34]

As for the Starkville tornado, I think the report of it on Stone Blvd must have been the 'new' part that extends to the south farm as someone earlier in this thread alluded to damage at south farm earlier. I had been home about 10 minutes from my chase trip with Starkvegas to Louisiana yesterday and had the tv on and heard Laubhan talking about the rotation heading our way and he specifically mentioned Bardwell road and Blackjack. From what I saw, he nailed the location!

I live a mile east of Bardwell on Blackjack and after it was over, I took off to find damage in that area. The sirens on campus were still going off when I left. There were powerlines down across Blackjack (which I accidentally drove over because I couldn't see them with the rain) and a tree down across Bardwell (that's the tree pic earlier in the thread). There was also about a half mile debris path on Blackjack consisting of small limbs that was pretty much centered on the Bardwell road intersection. I didn't see any structural damage anywhere and all houses and apartment complexes I passed still had power. The downed powerlines on Blackjack went to an abandoned trailer park so I don't even know if they were energized.

There was some street flooding on Blackjack and several spots on campus.

Here is where I was at home in relation to the path.
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[RocketDawg]

As for the Starkville tornado, I think the report of it on Stone Blvd must have been the 'new' part that extends to the south farm as someone earlier in this thread alluded to damage at south farm earlier. I had been home about 10 minutes from my chase trip with Starkvegas to Louisiana yesterday and had the tv on and heard Laubhan talking about the rotation heading our way and he specifically mentioned Bardwell road and Blackjack. From what I saw, he nailed the location!

I live a mile east of Bardwell on Blackjack and after it was over, I took off to find damage in that area. The sirens on campus were still going off when I left. There were powerlines down across Blackjack (which I accidentally drove over because I couldn't see them with the rain) and a tree down across Bardwell (that's the tree pic earlier in the thread). There was also about a half mile debris path on Blackjack consisting of small limbs that was pretty much centered on the Bardwell road intersection. I didn't see any structural damage anywhere and all houses and apartment complexes I passed still had power. The downed powerlines on Blackjack went to an abandoned trailer park so I don't even know if they were energized.

There was some street flooding on Blackjack and several spots on campus.

Here is where I was at home in relation to the path.
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That's pretty close. I wonder if winds on the right side are stronger than on the left like they are in a hurricane. Probably never actually been measured. The winds in a tornado aren't necessarily horizontal though. I remember seeing very good video of an F5 near Lawrenceville, Tenn, and the winds on the back side appeared to be coming down at about a 30-degree angle. Seeing that, it's no wonder that nothing can withstand those churning winds.

[Treemydawg]

I’ve spent the entire day at my brothers house in Hamilton today cutting trees and cleaning up debris. He and his family were so lucky to only have trees down in the yard and on vehicles. Their house was untouched which blows my mind with all of the carnage surrounding it. God really had his hands of protection on them last night. Tornados are so weird sometimes with the damage they do in one spot and 100’ down the road things look like nothing has happened at all.

[starkvegasdawg]

Starkville tornado with a rating of EF-1.

[timotheus]

I just saw where a small plane crashed in union county during the storm. All 3 aboard are deceased. 3 from Belmont and 1 from Booneville.

[RocketDawg]

Preliminary rating on Hamilton tornado is EF-2. Looking at it live on radar I would have bet the farm on it being at least a 4. Winds estimated around 130mph. I know I captured a screen shot of 136mph on my radar.

I'm not a storm surveyor, but the pictures I've seen (on the Daily Journal website) showed flattened houses, and they seemed to be reasonably well built. Would an EF-2 flatten a house like that?

[starkvegasdawg]

I'm not a storm surveyor, but the pictures I've seen (on the Daily Journal website) showed flattened houses, and they seemed to be reasonably well built. Would an EF-2 flatten a house like that?

I haven't really seen any pictures, but my only guess is they weren't as well constructed as they appeared. However, that is a very high end EF-2 and the one wind speed I got off radar would have put it at EF-3. So the difference with this tornado is really close to splitting hairs. At EF-3 you start to get significant damage to well constructed buildings.

[msbulldog]

On mobile, so sorry for the link but here?s the view from 10 South. https://mobile.twitter.com/Livestormchaser/status/1117263286087684096

The owner took the video. I?m just down I-20 and we had heavy winds and flash flooding. I haven?t seen that much water since Katrina came through.

That's Jay, the owner my daughter used to babysit him. His dad is an old friend.

[Liverpooldawg]

I just saw where a small plane crashed in union county during the storm. All 3 aboard are deceased. 3 from Belmont and 1 from Booneville.

It was during or just before the storm but I don't think it was storm related. They reportedly experienced electrical problems soon after takeoff from Oxford and went down shortly afterward. It was a privately owned 10 seat jet.

[msbulldog]

It was during or just before the storm but I don't think it was storm related. They reportedly experienced electrical problems soon after takeoff from Oxford and went down shortly afterward. It was a privately owned 10 seat jet.

Dickie Scruggs and family got off the plane in Oxford.

[Liverpooldawg]

Dickie Scruggs and family got off the plane in Oxford.

What I saw said Scruggs flew with the pilot the day before. It didn't say if it was the same plane, but I would imagine it was given the Oxford take off.

[msbulldog]

What I saw said Scruggs flew with the pilot the day before. It didn't say if it was the same plane, but I would imagine it was given the Oxford take off.

CL headline:
A plane crash killed 3 near Oxford. Dickie Scruggs was on plane just before crash.

[RocketDawg]

Was it Scruggs' plane? I googled and it said his net worth is $1.7B so it easily could have been. That was a close call.

[msbulldog]

Rocket the article was not clear about who owned the plane. I would link the article, but linking CL is frowned upon on ED.

[RocketDawg]

Rocket the article was not clear about who owned the plane. I would link the article, but linking CL is frowned upon on ED.

Thanks. Yeah, there seems to be a bit of distaste for that particular publication. :)