Time to focus on beating Oregon and going back to the Final 4

[Irondawg]

I'll be really interested to see what Vic pulls out this game as far as a defensive gameplan. They destroyed our defense in the first meeting, particularly Ionescu who got to the rim at will.

Oregon is really good on offense but they don't have anybody that can guard Howard.If the refs will actually call a foul against T, we need to see if we can get Hebard in trouble. She's a huge part of their screen game and really quick. They don't have anybody else that can guard T.

Then we just have to deny Ionescu the ball as much as possible and try to limit her creativity. We can't let her live in the lane again and shoot 17 FT like last time (she hit all 17 btw)

This one may really come down to the refs. Neither team is all that deep. They're more well rounded on offense but we're more physical on both ends.

[Dawgcap]

This team is capable and will win this game. We are better and have a point to prove! Trust them!

[yjnkdawg]

Vic will be prepared. He will have our girls prepared, and the girls will be on a mission. They are hungry for a Final Four Championship. Yeah, it could come down to the way the game is officiated, but hopefully that won't be a deciding factor.

[Cooterpoot]

I’m leaning towards our season ending today. Refs aren’t going to call fouls on them while they hammer T, and they’re a tough matchup. We can’t have those couple of stretches where we seem to lose focus. I expect a close game either way.

[CadaverDawg]

I'd hate to know I had to give a team 2 of their 3 losses on the season in order to advance. Yes they beat us once, but it's a very tall order to beat Vic twice in a season. Only Aja Wilson accomplished that I believe, and Oregon ain't got Aja

[starkvegasdawg]

I just wish T wouldn't go out to the three point line. Seems like every time she does the other team hits a backdoor pass for an uncontested drive to the rim. She needs to be planted at the rim and say try and get it over me. I dare you.

[chef dixon]

Great start. We look clearly the better team

[HoopsDawg]

can number 10 not shoot at all? Dang Oregon is playing off of her.

[chef dixon]

can number 10 not shoot at all? Dang Oregon is playing off of her.

Holmes and Danberry are almost exclusively midrange and lay ups

[CadaverDawg]

It's so unfair that we have to play this game in Oregon as the 1 seed. Makes me want to beat their ass and shut them up even more. We have got to figure out this high ball screen. Can't leave them open in the corners while helping on that screen

[CadaverDawg]

Oregon is never out of it the way they shoot the 3

[maroonmania]

We need to start making our free throws.

[RocketDawg]

Anriel came to play today. Oregon is hitting 3s like crazy though.

[maroonmania]

It is ridiculous the home court advantage Oregon has in this game. Bigger here than when we played them on their campus back in December.

[starkvegasdawg]

Can they miss a 3? This would be a blowout if they weren't 78/80 for 3.

[CadaverDawg]

Cannot keep letting them shoot threes. Funnel them down the lane and let T cause problems

[chef dixon]

We are controlling the game. They just hit some 3s

[CadaverDawg]

It is ridiculous the home court advantage Oregon has in this game. Bigger here than when we played them on their campus back in December.

It's horse shit too

[RocketDawg]

It is ridiculous the home court advantage Oregon has in this game. Bigger here than when we played them on their campus back in December.

Yes the homecourt advantage shouldn't be allowed. The good part is that we don't have to play on that distracting Oregon home court with the trees all over it. That thing's psychedelic.

Speaking of court floor patterns ... I like the colors that the NCAA has chosen for both the men's and women's games this year. They look good, and aren't distracting to be an influence on the game.

[maroonmania]

Oregon has 5 3's and 2 2's in the first quarter.

[Goldendawg]

[QUOTE=CadaverDawg;1089558]It's so unfair that we have to play this game in Oregon as the 1 seed. Makes me want to beat their ass and shut them up even more. We have got to figure out this high ball screen. Can't leave them open in the corners while helping on that screen[/QUOTe
Yeah, we're a #1 seed playing for the Final 4 against a #2 seed that has nothing but a home game. The NCAA is unfair and incompetent in so many ways!

[CadaverDawg]

Does anybody else think maybe we should go small with Howard at Center to try to take away their abuse of McCowan on the high ball screen?

[Goldendawg]

We need our guards to take the three's and mid-range jumpers that they daring us to take. That beat us before.

[maroonmania]

Oregon making everything from everywhere right now. Hopefully they won't be able to keep that up.

[CadaverDawg]

We are going to have a hard time beating a team shooting this well at home

[starkvegasdawg]

Do they have to show a crowd shot every time Oregon makes a bucket?

[CadaverDawg]

Unreal. They don't miss

[Goldendawg]

Ever the announcer stated that this was a home game fore Oregon.

[mparkerfd20]

God dang they can shoot the shit out the ball.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well, when their players do not have to play defense on two of our players away from the basket.......

[maroonmania]

Unreal. They don't miss

Yep, not sure what we can do if they don't miss any shots.

[MedDawg]

Ionescu traveled before starting her dribble before that last mid-range shot.

[mparkerfd20]

This is unreal how well they shoot. If they dont cool off we ain't winning no matter how well we play.

[Irondawg]

Just have to weather the storm. They aren’t going to hit 3s at a 7-12 pace all game. If they do, it just wasn’t meant to be. We are forcing them to live on the outside shot which I agree with. Just have to hope it works long term

[CadaverDawg]

Unfortunately we're going to have to sit our best player to stop them I'm afraid. All of their scoring is a result of rotation caused by T not being quick enough on that ball screen. Not her fault at all, just a bad matchup. I wish we would at least TRY going small to see if it helps. Need to try something, because this makes 6 straight quarters against them that we can't stop them

[Goldendawg]

Well, when their players do not have to play defense on two of our players away from the basket.......

Our guards won't take a wide open three.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Also, complete bullshit Oregon plays at home as the 2. They should have been shipped somewhere else.

[maroonmania]

God dang they can shoot the shit out the ball.

They haven't shot like this in weeks. Just have to hope they cool off at some point.

[RocketDawg]

Well, at least they're not shooting foul shots. Don'tt know if it's the whole game or just this quarter, but we don't have any fouls like we did last time we played them. They're just killing us with 3s and that won't keep up.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Our guards won't take a wide open three.

Our guards can't make a three and Oregon knows it and has adjusted. Vic refuses to leave our players on an island and the kick 3 is killing us

[maroonmania]

Does anybody else think maybe we should go small with Howard at Center to try to take away their abuse of McCowan on the high ball screen?

The early 3's were not guarded well but the last few have been with people in their face. Not sure what else we can do.

[CadaverDawg]

Vic will adjust hopefully

[maroonmania]

Howard is forcing her shot too much.

[shoeless joe]

So is it we?ll known or supposed to be a secret that ionescu is payton?s love child?

[maroonmania]

Two really bad possessions at the end of the half. AEH can't really shoot on the move.

[SailingDawg]

So is it we?ll known or supposed to be a secret that ionescu is payton?s love child?

What

[Irondawg]

Well I don’t think Oregon can play a better half and we are only down 2

[CadaverDawg]

You play all year to try to earn a 1 seed, and then you finally get it and get penalized by having to play the lower seed at home. Such BS. And it does matter...that's why tournament games are held at "neutral" sites.

[maroonmania]

If we lose this game it will put the final touches on a perfectly craptastic weekend. Oregon did at least cool down making shots in the last part of the 2nd Q. Hopefully they won't shoot as well in the 2nd half.

[CadaverDawg]

UConn should not have been in Albany and Oregon should not be in Portland. You're going to end up with 2 of your Final 4 teams not belonging, all because they got an unfair home court advantage. Louisville and State both roll if they switch UConn and Oregon by sending Oregon to Albany and UConn to Portland. The committee ****ed this up

[Leeshouldveflanked]

UConn should not have been in Albany and Oregon should not be in Portland. You're going to end up with 2 of your Final 4 teams not belonging, all because they got an unfair home court advantage. Louisville and State both roll if they switch UConn and Oregon by sending Oregon to Albany and UConn to Portland. The committee ****ed this up
Got to keep Nike happy with Oregon.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Funny how all the announcers only want to talk about Oregon players and sometimes T. Vic needs to figure out how to cover the pick and roll. I would recommend that the player on the far side of the court is to always stay with their man, cause the kickout is the reason they are in the lead. T should never leave thr paint.

[RocketDawg]

There goes Vic's jacket after Holme's foul to begin the second half.

[Lord McBuckethead]

How was that a 17n foul

[RocketDawg]

I don't understand T's shot there. Don't even understand why she was that far out.

[CadaverDawg]

Vic made no adjustments on the high ball screen. I don't get it

[maroonmania]

I don't understand T's shot there. Don't even understand why she was that far out.

Probably why Vic took the timeout. Oregon will give Big T that shot all day. And that was on the heels of giving Oregon 3 straight offensive possessions because we couldn't get the rebound.

[CadaverDawg]

Bad matchup and a home court advantage for the 2 seed is going to finish our season today. Shitty weekend

[Lord McBuckethead]

This defensive game is going exactly how it did last time. Can we seitch it to zone every once in a while? Please God. Also, we have 0 steals on the full court this game. Maybe we save a little energy.

[Dawgology]

Got to love the NCAA screw job giving Oregon home court. MSU should complain...but we won’t. We’ll just roll over and take it like always.

[CadaverDawg]

Vic is too stubborn on the high ball screen. If you're going to press it with your center, your center must be someone quicker....so either back T off, or take her out, because we WILL NOT win with her defending that high ball screen that way

[RocketDawg]

3 minutes in and we haven't scored yet.

[CadaverDawg]

This defensive game is going exactly how it did last time. Can we seitch it to zone every once in a while? Please God. Also, we have 0 steals on the full court this game. Maybe we save a little energy.

A zone against these 3 point shooters would be a death wish

[maroonmania]

This defensive game is going exactly how it did last time. Can we seitch it to zone every once in a while? Please God. Also, we have 0 steals on the full court this game. Maybe we save a little energy.

No, we will not be playing zone. Not even sure we practice it.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Just put it this way, Oregon attacks our defense perfectly. You think it would be a fluke, but this is the 2nd time this year 4 months apart and yet we refuse to change how T covers it. No reason not to have A Howard always playing against the pick and roll.

[drummerdawg]

Being outcoached right now. We have no offensive plays to take advantage of their doubling/tripling McCowan. There's a lot of one on one opportunities we're not taking advantage of.

[Sparrows2]

Vic May have to do in game adjustments
If he can
And no telling your players to hustle more is not an adjustments

[RocketDawg]

Finally! AEH with a 3.

[maroonmania]

If AEH can set up like that she is deadly, but if she is rushed or on the move she doesn't shoot well.

[Sparrows2]

T should not get higher than foul line

[HaggardDawg]

Big T lazy af on defense

[mparkerfd20]

Going back to how they beat us first game. Drawing T out cause no one else can rebound or guard the center.

[Quaoarsking]

There's actually a decent change they change the 350-mile rule after today.

Before you disagree, they used to predetermine the 16 1st/2nd round sites and require that teams play on their own homecourt if they made it at all. And after 1 seeds started losing to 8/9 seeds in a total road game, they changed it to just say 1-4 seeds host. So there is precedent for the NCAA changing the rules of the tournament when they are proven to be unfair. Just eyeballing some recent brackets, this rule hasn't had an impact like it has today.

ETA: Here is an example of a 1 seed falling in the round of 32: http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=294000003

[TNDawg35]

ESPN is making this game hard to watch on tv... They are huge on Oregon...

[starkvegasdawg]

T should not get higher than foul line

This.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Wow. How was that a foul. She went over our girls back and 17n sucked on the shot.

[Sparrows2]

Vic being Vic
I think he is one of those guys that believes coaching is done before the game other than coaching effort

[maroonmania]

Oregon's entire offense is either a layup or a 3. We need to force them into some midrange jumpers by keeping T back in the paint and the rest of our defenders working the perimeter.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Big T lazy af on defense

Yeah, I am going to disagree on that one. Vic continuously has her in no mans land.

[Saltydog]

Our defense is horrible today.....

[maroonmania]

No physical displacement? Is this color lady drunk?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Oregon's entire offense is either a layup or a 3. We need to force them into some midrange jumpers by keeping T back in the paint and the rest of our defenders working the perimeter.

Exactly. At least try it for a couple minutes. If the game keeps on, there is about a 75% chance we lose this thing.

[Sparrows2]

There is a bunch of old school coaches that don’t believe in game adjustments
That the game is about execution of the plan

[maroonmania]

Terrible call on Carter!

[starkvegasdawg]

17 these refs.

[Irondawg]

Oregon is just really good offensively. There aren't many guards in the womens game that can run a pick and roll like Ionescu.

That said I'm suprised we haven't tried something. I think Vic is just hoping their outside shooting has a 5 minute cold spell

[maroonmania]

17 these refs.

Horrible. 2 fouls on us with Oregon crawling all over our back.

[SailingDawg]

We have five fouls and Oregon has zero.

[Sparrows2]

Why is T out of the box on offense.

[maroonmania]

Oregon's offensive rebounding is hurting us.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Vic has a 17n point on both calls. First one, we did not foul but we got called for it. The 2nd was clear over the back on Oregon.

[Quaoarsking]

Vic probably needs to get a T.

[Sparrows2]

Why is T guarding on the perimeter.

[Coach007]

This is some extreme bs

[Lord McBuckethead]

T didn't even touch that girl.

[RocketDawg]

They've started to call fouls on us in the second half. Vic was right on both those over the back non=calls.

[RocketDawg]

And another foul called.

[Coach007]

My lord.... they are going to beat us.... meaning refs

[SailingDawg]

McCowan is talking to the refs every time because she’s getting hacked on both ends.

[Sparrows2]

The crowd has started to effect the officiating

[maroonmania]

My lord.... they are going to beat us.... meaning refs

Just part of being the "road" team.

[RocketDawg]

The crowd has started to effect the officiating

Affect. **

[HereComesTheSpiral]

This is officially a screw job.

[maroonmania]

How about the Oregon elbow in the back of McCowan?

[Sparrows2]

Of course allowing T to aimlessly wonder around the perimeter doesn’t help

[Lord McBuckethead]

T is about time she gets called for that elbow.

[SailingDawg]

Forearm in her back and she gets the foul. What a joke.

[starkvegasdawg]

Vic needs to deck one of the officials and say you don't call that shit when players are doing it against T so don't even think of calling it now.

[Cooterpoot]

Officiating is taking over the game.

[Coach007]

Yeah... the elbows to her back are creating pain.

[RocketDawg]

T is about time she gets called for that elbow.

True, but I think T sorta threw a elbow too. Can't blame her though ... she's being mugged with nothing called.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

T is about time she gets called for that elbow.

Hey Ross, hows it going? Y’all still fussing over statues?

[West Tn Dawg]

Yep, I'm afraid the refs are going to decide it. They are keeping them in it now!

[MarketingBully]

Officiating is taking over the game.

Yes it is. What was the foul count? 7-2 and I thought the Oregon girl’s body was in the cylinder when that dumb ass ref called a charge on McCowan.

[Coach007]

Of course allowing T to aimlessly wonder around the perimeter doesn’t help

She is playing what she suppose to. 2hen you become the coach who takes this team to the final 4... you can have a say

[Leeshouldveflanked]

That one B in the stripes is really helping Oregon.

[maroonmania]

Big T picking up the 3rd was big. They are going to go right at her now.

[Sparrows2]

Vic needs to calm T down and jam the ball inside
He is asking her to guard people on the perimeter which is something she can’t do and making her frustrated

[maroonmania]

Not getting good shots now. Layups and 3s is all Oregon does.

[RocketDawg]

Here come the 3s again. They'd calmed down for a while.

[CadaverDawg]

Vic got outcoached twice by this guy this year. Disappointing

[maroonmania]

No use in driving into an Oregon player because they are not going to call the foul.

[RocketDawg]

I don't understand why that wasn't a foul on Ionescu.

[CadaverDawg]

Have a whole season to figure out the pick and roll, and we make zero changes and get beat by it again? How? I thought Vic was better than that

[Cooterpoot]

We’ve played poorly today but our inability to make outside shots allows them to to just pack it in and limit us.

[RocketDawg]

That may be their first turnover.

[CadaverDawg]

We’ve played poorly today but our inability to make outside shots allows them to to just pack it in and limit us.

But our offense isn't going to lose this...our inability to figure out how to stop their pick and roll is

[Irondawg]

Have a whole season to figure out the pick and roll, and we make zero changes and get beat by it again? How? I thought Vic was better than that

Some of it is our roster potentially. Sometimes in matchups you know you don't match up well and just have to hope you execute better than they do. If we sat T, who do you put in the lineup instead? Then on offense we don't have enough good 3 point threats to make them pay for tripling T

[Sparrows2]

We will need to make 3’s to win
We are not running any offense at all

[CadaverDawg]

Pick and roll again

[maroonmania]

Giving Oregon multiple possessions is killing us.

[Cooterpoot]

But our offense isn't going to lose this...our inability to figure out how to stop their pick and roll is

We can’t score with them and we’re a lot shorter than them. We don’t have the players to shut them down.

[CadaverDawg]

Ballgame

[RocketDawg]

Holmes is playing well today.

[Cooterpoot]

Missed FT are hurting us too.

[Saltydog]

are.

[Sparrows2]

Oregon has one offense pick and roll and wear T down
Vic has one answer
Cross his arms and tell T to guard the perimeter

[maroonmania]

We are taking some really bad shots. What was Howard doing on that throwing it up over her head?

[CadaverDawg]

STOP MAKING T PUSH OUT ON THE SCREEN! That's what creates their whole offense!! Keep T below the free throw line and it kills their pick and roll AND their open 3's on the rotations

[maroonmania]

Oregon has one offense pick and roll and wear T down
Vic has one answer
Cross his arms and tell T to guard the perimeter

Oregon can't do anything but hit 3s and shoot layups. Shoot be a way to force them into some midrange jumpers but we aren't doing it.

[CadaverDawg]

Oregon has one offense pick and roll and wear T down
Vic has one answer
Cross his arms and tell T to guard the perimeter

Yep

[Sparrows2]

Come on T cowboy up and learn to play the perimeter and people off the dribble
Cause your coach ain’t changing

[CadaverDawg]

Oregon can't do anything but hit 3s and shoot layups. Shoot be a way to force them into some midrange jumpers but we aren't doing it.

There is...it requires T not stepping out to the 3 point line. We won't do it

[Cooterpoot]

This is what we are. We can’t match up with them. Has nothing to do with coaching. We kept T back the first half and they lit us up. We maximized our talent this year. Least talented team in a few years.

[CadaverDawg]

So frustrating bc this team will get destroyed by Baylor. Baylor will beat Oregon by 30

[maroonmania]

STOP MAKING T PUSH OUT ON THE SCREEN! That's what creates their whole offense!! Keep T below the free throw line and it kills their pick and roll AND their open 3's on the rotations

Not only that, T is out of position on the rebounds and they are getting extra possessions.

[MarketingBully]

Not easy to defend the pick and roll when the team is also good at perimeter shooting. Your best bet is to full court press them and get them out of their offense. Man to man against the pick and roll is dumb. But if they are a good perimeter team zone is out as well.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

It’s not like Oregon is doing anything special... just running a high pick and roll and either getting a layup or throwing it out to a shooter... a zone would make them do something different but Vic won’t change

[CadaverDawg]

This is what we are. We can’t match up with them. Has nothing to do with coaching. We kept T back the first half and they lit us up. We maximized our talent this year. Least talented team in a few years.

Wrong. We did not keep T back in the first half, did you watch? It was the rotations off of the same pick and roll that led to their 3's. We've changed nothing with our defense of the pick and roll this half in terms of T

[Lord McBuckethead]

STOP MAKING T PUSH OUT ON THE SCREEN! That's what creates their whole offense!! Keep T below the free throw line and it kills their pick and roll AND their open 3's on the rotations

Everyone knows this. Vic was not ready for this game. No adjustments from the first go. He has 4 minutes to try something else, cause right now, if we continue we lose this game by 8 pts.

[Coach007]

The team doesn't want it as bad as as Oregon

[Saltydog]

This is what we are. We can?t match up with them. Has nothing to do with coaching. We kept T back the first half and they lit us up. We maximized our talent this year. Least talented team in a few years.

They're definitely better shooting the ball but our D has been shit today. It just has.

[Sparrows2]

This is what we are. We can’t match up with them. Has nothing to do with coaching. We kept T back the first half and they lit us up. We maximized our talent this year. Least talented team in a few years.


What game are you watching. He never kept T back she is worn down and now they don’t need to settle for 3’s

[Cooterpoot]

Wrong. We did not keep T back in the first half, did you watch? It was the rotations off of the same pick and roll that led to their 3's. We've changed nothing with our defense of the pick and roll this half in terms of T

Yes we did. Hell, they even talked about it in the half.

[West Tn Dawg]

She needes mto stay in the paint the rest of the game and take a chance on them missing the 3!

[Irondawg]

They are basically running the old Phoenix Sun offense with Nash and Amare. If you've got a great PG and some folks that can shoot 3's it's just hard to stop.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well we came out and continued the same defense. 2 easy layups for oregon.

[CadaverDawg]

Yes we did. Hell, they even talked about it in the half.

No they didn't. Go back and watch. They said we needed to drop T back. All I can say is go back and watch, bc we did not drop T first half

[MarketingBully]

Wrong. We did not keep T back in the first half, did you watch? It was the rotations off of the same pick and roll that led to their 3's. We've changed nothing with our defense of the pick and roll this half in terms of T

Oregon is 32-4 and this is basically a home game for them. Two final fours and an elite eight is bad ass for a women’s team that had no history whatsoever before Vic got here.

[Sparrows2]

Our defense doesn’t suck don’t put this on the players
Not having a plan for the pick and roll that didn’t involve T being a perimeter defender is the proplem

[CadaverDawg]

Oh well, good season

[West Tn Dawg]

Well it was great ride! Great job girls!!!!!!

[Bothrops]

Oregon is more athletic, can shoot better, and are smarter.

[Irondawg]

They have the best player on the floor, they are at home and their other players have played very well. We haven't played bad at all, we just got their A game and we were on the road.

[drummerdawg]

Our point guards can't be afraid to shoot around the perimeter when they're given that much space.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Bibby going down was the dagger.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Open 3 for Oregon.

[Cooterpoot]

No they didn't. Go back and watch. They said we needed to drop T back. All I can say is go back and watch, bc we did not drop T first half

T sagged back instead of going all the way out. Landers even talked about it. They shot it off the screen. The picked us the whole 2nd half.

[mparkerfd20]

Oh well maybe we'll have a PG that isnt scared to shoot next year.

[CadaverDawg]

So far today both 2 seeds had Home court advantage, and both won. Good job Tourney committee...glad you made more money, bc you don't have the best 4 teams in the Final 4

[Irondawg]

Oregon is 32-4 and this is basically a home game for them. Two final fours and an elite eight is bad ass for a women’s team that had no history whatsoever before Vic got here.

and in 2 of those losses they were without Sabally

[mparkerfd20]

Or that can drive and actually make a layup maybe.

[Quaoarsking]

Bibby going down was the dagger.

That's fair. Hell of a coaching job to get an SEC Title and Elite 8 anyway after that.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Bibby going down was the dagger.

No Bibby played against Oregon the first time. This game played out exactly the same way this time.

[Dawgology]

Oregon is more athletic, can shoot better, and are smarter.

And they got to play us at home twice in a row. NCAA bullshit. The NCAA has made it very clear they don?t give two shits about Mississippi teams.

[West Tn Dawg]

She showed why she was player of the year!

[Dawgology]

So far today both 2 seeds had Home court advantage, and both won. Good job Tourney committee...glad you made more money, bc you don't have the best 4 teams in the Final 4

This. All day long.

[R2Dawg]

Great year, elite 8 and two SEC titles. Hate we let the high pick and roll beat us twice this year.

[MarketingBully]

Our defense doesn?t suck don?t put this on the players
Not having a plan for the pick and roll that didn?t involve T being a perimeter defender is the proplem

What do you want him to do? Zoning this team would be dumb. Man to man against the pick and roll isn?t the smartest but you rather them get layups then shoot 3s. They would have bombed us had we ran a zone. The only other option would have been full court press the entire game and is that something we do?

[R2Dawg]

Yep, that schedule should never happen to a 1 seed.

[maroonmania]

That ball was off the Oregon player.

[Quaoarsking]

So far today both 2 seeds had Home court advantage, and both won. Good job Tourney committee...glad you made more money, bc you don't have the best 4 teams in the Final 4

The ACC and SEC will raise hell and the NCAA will fix it for future years. Doesn't really help today though, sadly.

[Sparrows2]

Coaching fail
Picked and rolled to death in December
Picked and rolled to death today
Hell their coach said that was plan in the press all week
Vic not going to change

[Bothrops]

And they got to play us at home twice in a row. NCAA bullshit. The NCAA has made it very clear they don?t give two shits about Mississippi teams.

Of course they don't, MS is the most hated state in the country.

[maroonmania]

What do you want him to do? Zoning this team would be dumb. Man to man against the pick and roll isn?t the smartest but you rather them get layups then shoot 3s. They would have bombed us had we ran a zone. The only other option would have been full court press the entire game and is that something we do?

Only thing we could have done was quit sending Big T to the top of the key to defend. The only risk with that is that you give up more 3 pointers with the screen.

[CadaverDawg]

Great year, elite 8 and two SEC titles. Hate we let the high pick and roll beat us twice this year.

Yep, Oregon runs an offense that takes advantage of a slow center if they pop out to the 3 point line. Vic chose to try to power through that instead of adjusting....didn't work. They beat us with the exact same game as last time and we had no answers.

[BigEasyDawg]

Coaching fail
Picked and rolled to death in December
Picked and rolled to death today
Hell their coach said that was plan in the press all week
Vic not going to change

shut up

[MarketingBully]

Coaching fail
Picked and rolled to death in December
Picked and rolled to death today
Hell their coach said that was plan in the press all week
Vic not going to change

I’m not going to bitch about a Coach who got us to two title games and an elite eight. Imo and I’m sure I speak for most MSU fans but respectfully STFU.

[BeardoMSU]

but respectfully STFU.

Seconded.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Ball game. People can't cover their own player.

[Sparrows2]

How about tell T never to come higher than the foul line
Four perimeter players handle the pick and roll

[Cooterpoot]

Oregon is a nightmare matchup for us. So are the other teams left minus Iowa. I said all year we were an elite 8 team but not a final 4 team. Just don’t have the horses this year. Rebuild starts next year.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Well winning a SEC Championship in a Big 3 sport is a good season.

[MarketingBully]

Only thing we could have done was quit sending Big T to the top of the key to defend. The only risk with that is that you give up more 3 pointers with the screen.

We would have been blown out instead of losing by five if T isn’t sent to the perimeter.

[Quaoarsking]

Coaching fail
Picked and rolled to death in December
Picked and rolled to death today
Hell their coach said that was plan in the press all week
Vic not going to change

I don't want Vic to change. Some days you run into a buzzsaw, especially when you're essentially playing a road game.

[Irondawg]

I just think they are slightly better than us overall. We can beat them for sure, but even on a neutral court i think they win at least 6 out of 10 times. We just have matchup problems with them and our lack of scoring ability from guards negates the advantage we have with T somewhat

[maroonmania]

We really have played pretty well overall. Just one of those days where Oregon was on with the home crowd behind them. They will likely get rolled in the semis because I doubt they shoot this well away from Oregon.

[CadaverDawg]

How about tell T never to come higher than the foul line
Four perimeter players handle the pick and roll

Yep. We never even tried it. In 8 quarters

[Bothrops]

At least we lost to a better team, unlike Liberty, or Iowa.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Only thing we could have done was quit sending Big T to the top of the key to defend. The only risk with that is that you give up more 3 pointers with the screen.

Well it didn't work in december. Didnt work today. Wish we would have tried something else. Since we have all been talking about it since we lost that game. No adjustment with 4 months of time to reflect.

[Lord McBuckethead]

At least we lost to a better team, unlike Liberty, or Iowa.

Agreed. Oregon is equal it us. No doubt about it

[maroonmania]

I just think they are slightly better than us overall. We can beat them for sure, but even on a neutral court i think they win at least 6 out of 10 times. We just have matchup problems with them and our lack of scoring ability from guards negates the advantage we have with T somewhat

Really just depends on how you catch them. If they can shoot like this they can beat anyone but they aren't going to do that every game.

[Saltydog]

We gave up too many open shots and they made us pay. That's the story here today, simple as that.

[maroonmania]

Oregon is more athletic, can shoot better, and are smarter.

They aren't more athletic but they shoot better for sure. They shoot better than anyone in the country percentage wise.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Good run girls. Good run. They had a great game plan, used the same as last time. No one saw it coming.

[Liverpooldawg]

They beat us twice. You have to say they are the better team.

[maroonmania]

Still say we beat them on a neutral floor. Anyway, on to baseball.

[Irondawg]

Really just depends on how you catch them. If they can shoot like this they can beat anyone but they aren't going to do that every game.

Right, they are centered around getting layups and open outside shots. Some days those outside shots don't fall and that's when they can be beat. But they don't have many of those days and unfortunately they didn't have one today. it will be interesting to see how they do when they don't have a good crowd to feed off of.

[Lord McBuckethead]

They aren't more athletic but they shoot better for sure. They shoot better than anyone in the country percentage wise.

They are more athletic.

[Cooterpoot]

They’re the best shooting team in the country. They don’t miss a lot of shots.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Right, they are centered around getting layups and open outside shots. Some days those outside shots don't fall and that's when they can be beat. But they don't have many of those days and unfortunately they didn't have one today. it will be interesting to see how they do when they don't have a good crowd to feed off of.

No one has bad shooting days when you give them 8 feet clear. Except maybe our mens team.

[Goldendawg]

The pick and roll killed us again, but did Holmes and Danbury even try a three when they sagged a couple of players inside on McCowen? Just not our game and they knew it again.

[MarketingBully]

Oregon is 13/26 from 3 today with T coming out on the perimeter. If T stayed back, you could add 5-6 more threes to that line potentially imo. This isn?t even a ball game if T doesn?t guard the perimeter. If you zone, you stop the pick and roll but they destroy us with 3s. Your best bet is to hope they aren?t hot from the 3 point line. If Oregon hits like that the rest of the way, they could win it all. I doubt they do but we basically played Oregon at their place and they were hot from three. Not much you can do about that.

[Sparrows2]

Some of you guys really need to get a grip
Do you actually watch basketball?
The Oregon coach rolled out the same game plan two games in a row and Vic didn’t even try something different
Square peg round hole

[CadaverDawg]

Not going to win many when you give up 88 points. Our lack of adjustments against that pick and roll just continue to make me scratch my head. Vic just met his krypronite apparently, bc he just couldn't adjust to it.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Must be nice to have a home game as a 2 seed. UConn and Oregon, must be nice.

[Saltydog]

While it would've been good to get to the Final 4 for a third straight year, it likely wouldn't have mattered. Baylor would've destroyed us and they will do the same to Oregon. I don't see anyone beating them.

[Quaoarsking]

DYK: The women's selection committee gave the team with the #15 RPI (UCF) ... a 12 seed. All of the Committee members should be fired for lots of reasons, and rules that allow this need to change.

[DeputyDawg94]

This is as far as I expected them to make it. Not being able to have 2 three point shooters on the floor at all times really limits the offense.

[Saltydog]

They?re the best shooting team in the country. They don?t miss a lot of shots.

ESPECIALLY open ones...?

[maroonmania]

Right, they are centered around getting layups and open outside shots. Some days those outside shots don't fall and that's when they can be beat. But they don't have many of those days and unfortunately they didn't have one today. it will be interesting to see how they do when they don't have a good crowd to feed off of.

They've had several lately when shots weren't falling. Thats why they have lost games to Stanford and Oregon State.

[maroonmania]

This is as far as I expected them to make it. Not being able to have 2 three point shooters on the floor at all times really limits the offense.

Next year we would have Bibby and AEH but of course we won't have McCowan.

[Sparrows2]

With T staying inside they get no layups and no second chance points
But yeah let’s let the countries premier interior defender learn to defend people off the dribble on the perimeter

[Homedawg]

When you give up 13 threes and no telling how many uncontested layups, you deserve to lose. Credit to Oregon. We never stopped the ball screen and they made us pay.

[maroonmania]

With T staying inside they get no layups and no second chance points
But yeah let’s let the countries premier interior defender learn to defend people off the dribble on the perimeter

We seemed to defend them the same way both times and it didn't work either time.

[Sparrows2]

Coaching or good coaching isn’t about asking your best player do something they are not good at

[CadaverDawg]

We seemed to defend them the same way both times and it didn't work either time.

Yep. Vic was too stubborn vs Oregon both times. I know T is our team, but if going small or dropping her below the foul
line can get you to the final 4, you have to at least try it. I'm just disappointed that he didn't even try anything different and allowed them to score at will for 8 straight quarters.

[Sparrows2]

I just don?t understand not admitting that the reigning SEC player of the year isn?t good on the perimeter and finding ways to minimize that

How is that so hard?

[R2Dawg]

T on high pick and roll was death sentence for us. When you have best center in game and rim protector you don't let them get beat at 3 point line all day. T was gased and then wouldn't even defend a layup. I love Vic and he is best coach on campus but it cost us today again.

[R2Dawg]

True. Hunter coming on this year was huge but if we had Bibby with her there is not much double team on T. Bibby loss this year was a big loss.

[West Tn Dawg]

No doubt, if Danbury or Holmes were even remotely a 3 pt threat, we would be undefeated right now. With their ability to pull up and pop, they would be devastating to other teams.

[tcdog70]

Vic is a great Coach. blessed to have him. But defended the Hig ball screen with T gassed her and gave them layups whenever they wanted. How about just box and 1 Sabrina? Leave T in the paint and it they beat us with 3s go ahead. The Ex Ga. Coach said so , he said watch and see-he was correct. T 15 feet from goal is wrong against this team. Refs for sure tooled us in the second half.

[Sparrows2]

You get that Danbury and Holmes play because Vic doesn’t care that the can’t shoot the three right?
Or to be more precise there are guards on the bench who shoot better and Vic would prefer the folks he plays to play

[Coach007]

You get that Danbury and Holmes play because Vic doesn’t care that the can’t shoot the three right?
Or to be more precise there are guards on the bench who shoot better and Vic would prefer the folks he plays to play

Here is a great idea... Let's start a "FIRE VIC" website and run off the greatest women's basketball coach we have had.

Give it a rest man. And evidently, this is not the only site you are posting the same things on. Copying and pasting.

[Sparrows2]

hey Bud the world is not a binary place where the head coach is someone who never screws up or else should be fired
Vic shouldn’t have run a 2 hour practice before the championship game 2 years ago
He shouldn’t have lost to ND
He should have tried something different against the ducks
Still the best overall coach on campus and in the SEC


And I don’t post on other boards so if other people are saying the same thing good for them

[Coach007]

And I don’t post on other boards so if other people are saying the same thing good for them

You are... you are copying and pasting sir.



I just don?t understand not admitting that the reigning SEC player of the year isn?t


That happens due to copying and pasting.



hey Bud the world is not a binary place where the head coach is someone who never screws up or else should be fired
Vic shouldn’t have run a 2 hour practice before the championship game 2 years ago
He shouldn’t have lost to ND
He should have tried something different against the ducks


And he should not have beaten UCONN.. But he did.

While I understand, bud, that fans get upset.... I think the man has earned his check and his place.

[Quaoarsking]

Let's quit complaining about Vic, people. Imagine if after the 60-point annihilation by UConn, someone told you "over the next 3 years, you wont get any national titles, but you will win 13 NCAA Tournament games," every single one of us would have been totally stunned and thrilled.

[Coach007]

Let's quit complaining about Vic, people. Imagine if after the 60-point annihilation by UConn, someone told you "over the next 3 years, you wont get any national titles, but you will win 13 NCAA Tournament games," every single one of us would have been totally stunned and thrilled.


100% agreed.

[CadaverDawg]

Let's quit complaining about Vic, people. Imagine if after the 60-point annihilation by UConn, someone told you "over the next 3 years, you wont get any national titles, but you will win 13 NCAA Tournament games," every single one of us would have been totally stunned and thrilled.

Of course we would. What does that have to do with discussing TODAY's game and coaching decisions? I am constantly amazed at how many people think they are going to click on a messageboard after a loss and not see any criticisms or negative discussions. Do I always want to see negative crap? No....but I know I will if I go on a State site after a State loss.

I guarantee you that nobody wants Vic gone, nobody is saying he's a bad coach, nobody would trade him for any coach in the country right now.....but even Alabama fans discuss coaching decisions and criticize Saban after losses on a messageboard. Vic wasn't great today....we can discuss that and still love the guy. Hail State

[Dawg2003]

Honestly, Vic worked a damn miracle with the personnel he had. Only one true 3 point threat as a starter, 2 transfers, and a starter out for the season. At the end of the day, we're bitching about a team that won an SEC title, SEC tournament title, and went to the Elite 8.

[CadaverDawg]

Serious question....are Danberry and Holmes THAT bad at shooting 3's? I mean, it's clear that Vic directly told them never to shoot a 3, so they must be REAL bad at it. I just can't see how two girls with great mid range shots could be so awful from 3 that you tell them to NEVER shoot one.

Our defense lost today's game (and their offense), so I'm not saying Holmes or Danberry shooting 3's would have mattered at all....I'm just genuinely curious as to how bad those two actually are at 3's, bc Abdul Ado probably had as many 3 point attempts as Holmes and Danberry this year.

[Dawg2003]

I saw Danberry shoot one 3, and she aired it. Holmes had a good shot but seemed uncomfortable shooting it.

[Dawg2003]

Our defense was the problem today though. 84 points should be enough to win.

[CadaverDawg]

Our defense was the problem today though. 84 points should be enough to win.

No doubt about it.

[Coach007]

Of course we would. What does that have to do with discussing TODAY's game and coaching decisions? I am constantly amazed at how many people think they are going to click on a messageboard after a loss and not see any criticisms or negative discussions. Do I always want to see negative crap? No....but I know I will if I go on a State site after a State loss.

I guarantee you that nobody wants Vic gone, nobody is saying he's a bad coach, nobody would trade him for any coach in the country right now.....but even Alabama fans discuss coaching decisions and criticize Saban after losses on a messageboard. Vic wasn't great today....we can discuss that and still love the guy. Hail State

Ah... for me this isn't about criticisms. This is about a new poster bashing coaches and is doing so across several boards copying and pasting. It's almost as if he showed up with an agenda.