LSU Game-3 Thread

[Todd4State]

Small, Ginn, James, Gordon, Barlow, Plumlee, Liebelt, and Price. That's 8 arms. Plenty for a weekend.


Take away James, Plumlee, Leibelt, and Price and that's really about what we have right now.

[HoopsDawg]

There are only 3-4 guys on that list that I would not go "oh shit" if they entered a big SEC game.....Small, Ginn, Gordon, and Barlow. Keegan has been a big disappointment, but may be slightly better than Plumlee. Liebelt has his moments. Price and Self should be behind an L screen when they enter, bc they throw batting practice. Our staff is concerning. They can turn it around, but they are bad now

Price was one of the only bright spots this weekend. He is working himself back from TJ. We know what he can do and what he can be by regional time.

[MarketingBully]

How many runs did our fielding help with today?

Our fielding is limited true but pitchers have to not throw such meaty pitches on 0-2/1-2 counts. We have to do a better job executing when we are up in the count. And no more ****ing high fastballs on 0-2/1-2. We had a ton of pitchers miss their spot on the high fastball which basically made the ball right down the middle and LSU t’ed it up.

[CadaverDawg]

That's the problem- Keegan CAN'T do that. We should have left him in the game longer than we did though. We probably need to use an opener and then bring Keegan in from the bullpen. Maybe that's what they were trying to do with Plumlee and nothing worked today.

Agree. What makes anyone think Keegan can get us 5 innings in SEC play on Sundays? Hell, he hasn't been getting us 3! Has he ever had back to back outings of 5 innings in his career?

[Todd4State]

we will sweep UT next weekend and people will start talking national title again. Lemon needs to figure out who can pitch on weekends and who can't. Need to rep the hell out of infield this week. Maybe get Cumbest and Hatcher some reps at 1B.

I think putting Hatcher at first will go a long way to helping the infield defense. That move HAS to be made now. Allen is where Rowdey was about a week or two ago. He needs to sit a game or two and we need to let Cumbest DH while he is sitting. It worked for Rowdey- it will probably work for Allen.

[HoopsDawg]

That's the problem- Keegan CAN'T do that. We should have left him in the game longer than we did though. We probably need to use an opener and then bring Keegan in from the bullpen. Maybe that's what they were trying to do with Plumlee and nothing worked today.

Maybe he can, maybe he can't. I still think he can. I think we went away from him too soon by not starting him. And then we definitely pulled him too soon.

[Turfdawg67]

11-freakin zip! How freakin bad can yall suck??????? Proved me wrong a couple of times already!!!!!!!

24 and freaking 5... STFU already

[MarketingBully]

That's the problem- Keegan CAN'T do that. We should have left him in the game longer than we did though. We probably need to use an opener and then bring Keegan in from the bullpen. Maybe that's what they were trying to do with Plumlee and nothing worked today.

Plumlee did his job. He went through the order once and in two innings threw one bad pitch and we were down 1-0. He got 4Ks of the six outs. What more did you want from him? KJ threw three bounced fastballs to the backstop and allowed a runner from second to score with it. Plumlee wasn’t the problem today.

[HoopsDawg]

Agree. What makes anyone think Keegan can get us 5 innings in SEC play on Sundays? Hell, he hasn't been getting us 3! Has he ever had back to back outings of 5 innings in his career?

8 games in the Cape with an ERA under 3. Maybe we should let KJ pitch 2 innings mid-week for the work so he can go 3-4 on a Sunday. He has to be a factor.

[Todd4State]

Agree. What makes anyone think Keegan can get us 5 innings in SEC play on Sundays? Hell, he hasn't been getting us 3! Has he ever had back to back outings of 5 innings in his career?

Not in SEC play. I think he is better as a reliever honestly. He's this team's version of Daniel Brown in 2016. I hate to beat a dead horse but I think Tyler Spring is probably our last best option at this point unless Cerentola figures it out very quickly. Especially if our coaches insist on being conventional with the staff. I'm just confused as to why we don't throw strikes like we should in general?

[Todd4State]

Plumlee did his job. He went through the order once and in two innings threw one bad pitch and we were down 1-0. He got 4Ks of the six outs. What more did you want from him? KJ threw three bounced fastballs to the backstop and allowed a runner from second to score with it. Plumlee wasn’t the problem today.

That one pitch set the tone for today though. Maybe Plumlee can be an opener? But he wasn't flawless either.

[MarketingBully]

Not in SEC play. I think he is better as a reliever honestly. He's this team's version of Daniel Brown in 2016. I hate to beat a dead horse but I think Tyler Spring is probably our last best option at this point unless Cerentola figures it out very quickly. Especially if our coaches insist on being conventional with the staff. I'm just confused as to why we don't throw strikes like we should in general?

I’m confused we didn’t pitch Cole Gordon at all today. He can get you nine outs from the seventh on and I guarantee we make a game of it with a fifth year senior on the mound finishing the game out. This is the first time I’m really questioning Lemonis but he put us in a bad spot with those relief decisions going from the seventh on. Those Benny Hill type decisions cost us another 7 runs.

[Cooterpoot]

Some of you need to go change your damn tampons.

[MarketingBully]

That one pitch set the tone for today though. Maybe Plumlee can be an opener? But he wasn't flawless either.

1-0 doesn’t set a “tone.” 4-0 to 11-0 does. Not being patient at the plate does. And we looked worse after the rain delay not better.

[Todd4State]

1-0 doesn’t set a “tone.” 4-0 to 11-0 does. Not being patient at the plate does. And we looked worse after the rain delay not better.

Those things happen as soon as you get down- which is exactly what happened when we got down 1-0 when someone gave up a lead off home run.

[HoopsDawg]

I’m confused we didn’t pitch Cole Gordon at all today. He can get you nine outs from the seventh on and I guarantee we make a game of it with a fifth year senior on the mound finishing the game out. This is the first time I’m really questioning Lemonis but he put us in a bad spot with those relief decisions going from the seventh on. Those Benny Hill type decisions cost us another 7 runs.

He made a mistake. First time all year White pitched in 2 different innings. Lemon wanted Gordon to pitch the 8th and 9th. Once it was out of hand, there was no need to pitch Gordon. Hopefully Lemon learns from it and doesn't repeat it.

[Todd4State]

I’m confused we didn’t pitch Cole Gordon at all today. He can get you nine outs from the seventh on and I guarantee we make a game of it with a fifth year senior on the mound finishing the game out. This is the first time I’m really questioning Lemonis but he put us in a bad spot with those relief decisions going from the seventh on. Those Benny Hill type decisions cost us another 7 runs.

Gordon can definitely eat multiple innings. But again- we're being conventional and we need to step away from that. Let's say just for shits and giggles we get two out of Plumlee and two out of Keegan. That leaves five innings. Gordon can probably go three of those five which leaves only two left to figure out which we can probably use Barlow for at least one if not two.

[MarketingBully]

He made a mistake. First time all year White pitched in 2 different innings. Lemon wanted Gordon to pitch the 8th and 9th. Once it was out of hand, there was no need to pitch Gordon. Hopefully Lemon learns from it and doesn't repeat it.

That’s what’s so frustrating about Lemon. Gordon can get you 3-4 innings not just 2. We needed him in the seventh. He needs to go in the seventh. Gordon isn’t a typical closer. He’s a multiple inning reliever.

[CadaverDawg]

That’s what’s so frustrating about Lemon. Gordon can get you 3-4 innings not just 2. We needed him in the seventh. He needs to go in the seventh. Gordon isn’t a typical closer. He’s a multiple inning reliever.

You can't throw Gordon an inning Friday and then 4 on Sunday....he'll be burnt by postseason. Think bigger picture.

[MarketingBully]

Gordon can definitely eat multiple innings. But again- we're being conventional and we need to step away from that. Let's say just for shits and giggles we get two out of Plumlee and two out of Keegan. That leaves five innings. Gordon can probably go three of those five which leaves only two left to figure out which we can probably use Barlow for at least one if not two.

As bad as we played, we could have won that game if we had kept it to a 4-0 deficit. Look at how the ninth played out. We scored two and had Westburg up with runners at second and third. If that’s a 4-2 game at that point, I like our chances. We made dumb as shit reliever decisions and it ended up costing us 7 runs. We have to get out of the mentality of only using Gordon as a closer. To me we should use him anytime we need him from the end of sixth on. He has a five pitch mix and when his curve ball is right he gets pop outs or strike outs. I don’t think we are utilizing him near enough.

[Homedawg]

[QUOTE=HoopsDawg;1089361]He made a mistake. First time all year White pitched in 2 different innings. Lemon wanted Gordon to pitch the 8th and 9th. Once it was out of hand, there was no need to pitch Gordon. Hopefully Lemon learns from it and doesn't repeat it.[/
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[MarketingBully]

I want to add this here. I think Coach Lemonis was the right hire but coached one bad game today. He is 24-5 and it’s hard to argue against those results. We play Tennessee and Alabama as our next two series. We will be good.

[Activated Alpha]

I want to add this here. I think Coach Lemonis was the right hire but coached one bad game today. He is 24-5 and it’s hard to argue against those results. We play Tennessee and Alabama as our next two series. We will be good.

You said we would win today. Pretty much the only one to say we would win today. This series was just bad outside of game 1 which we almost lost too.

[HoopsDawg]

You said we would win today. Pretty much the only one to say we would win today. This series was just bad outside of game 1 which we almost lost too.

Thank goodness we came back against AU last Sunday and held on against LSU Thursday.

[Ari Gold]

To ever say a coach doesn't want to win is well....just ****ing stupid. I think moorhead was bad last year. But I assure you he WANTED to win.

Exacatly.. even having to explain how stupid this is proves how actually stupid some of you are..

[I seen it dawg]

This was all on players. Skelton ruined the wkd trying to go 1st to 3rd Thur night. Disrespected the game and our opponent. The rest is history. We folded up the rest of the weekend like a bunch of pussies. We have bounced back before let's see what happens with this group.

[Ari Gold]

This was all on players. Skelton ruined the wkd trying to go 1st to 3rd Thur night. Disrespected the game and our opponent. The rest is history. We folded up the rest of the weekend like a bunch of pussies. We have bounced back before let's see what happens with this group.

Well said..

[maroonmania]

That one pitch set the tone for today though. Maybe Plumlee can be an opener? But he wasn't flawless either.

No, he wasn't flawless but he actually gave us the best first inning of the weekend. Better than Small or Ginn.

[MarketingBully]

No, he wasn't flawless but he actually gave us the best first inning of the weekend. Better than Small or Ginn.

1-0 should have been something we easily could have overcome had we been patient at the plate today. The pitcher for LSU wasn’t lights out today and wasn’t anything special but when you aren’t patient at the plate and are free swingers bad things happen. That ****er had only thrown 40+ pitches when we had gotten to the fifth inning after the rain delay. We basically just swung at pretty much everything he threw. We played our worst two games of the year yesterday and today. Hopefully this woke us up and we get back to work. We can’t be thinking we are hot shit because baseball has a way of kicking you in the balls once you do.

[Homedawg]

1-0 should have been something we easily could have overcome had we been patient at the plate today. The pitcher for LSU wasn’t lights out today and wasn’t anything special but when you aren’t patient at the plate and are free swingers bad things happen. That ****er had only thrown 40+ pitches when we had gotten to the fifth inning after the rain delay. We basically just swung at pretty much everything he threw. We played our worst two games of the year yesterday and today. Hopefully this woke us up and we get back to work. We can’t be thinking we are hot shit because baseball has a way of kicking you in the balls once you do.

Prior to the rain delay we had hit at least 5 balls super hard that didn't go for hits. At that point the hits were 4-4 if my memory serve me correctly. Every ball they hit hard or even close found real estate. It kept going for them in the later inning when they hit multiple ground balls through the 4 hole. Sometimes it happens. I bet on coach Polk's old scale of 0-6 we hit as many 5's and 6's as they did. Maybe more but they had more fall. The biggest difference wasn't our offense it was our defense. Or LSU's which was superb. Give em credit. We were good, not elite, before this weekend and that didn't change because we lost twice.

[Political Hack]

Can't believe we lost two to such a terrible program.***

[MarketingBully]

Prior to the rain delay we had hit at least 5 balls super hard that didn't go for hits. At that point the hits were 4-4 if my memory serve me correctly. Every ball they hit hard or even close found real estate. It kept going for them in the later inning when they hit multiple ground balls through the 4 hole. Sometimes it happens. I bet on coach Polk's old scale of 0-6 we hit as many 5's and 6's as they did. Maybe more but they had more fall. The biggest difference wasn't our offense it was our defense. Or LSU's which was superb. Give em credit. We were good, not elite, before this weekend and that didn't change because we lost twice.

Still should have stretched him out. He had several 6-7 pitch innings. LSU was more patient at the plate. We weren?t. If we had pitched Gordon in the seventh, we probably aren?t bitching so much because odds are good he holds them to 4. We probably have a different approach at the plate the 7-9th innings as well. But time to move on and focus on La Monroe. I?ll say one other thing. Cerentola?s ass better start figuring shit out. We don?t need another mid week where he allows 3-4 runs and you better believe ULM will not swing at anything and force him to throw strikes like MVSU did.