Some Thoughts on a Very Disappointing Night

[ShotgunDawg]

Here are some quick thoughts:

1. It shouldn't surprise anyone with what happened in our basketball game. The basketball program has too many clowns in it & has for sometime. It's extremely obvious that we have to recruit tougher kids. Hopefully Perry & Woodard are that. The program has lacked tough leadership for a decade.

2. Don't look to much into the baseball loss tonight. Auburn had a good bit go there way to win that one. It'll be good to see how this team handles adversity. Tough loss tonight but not a big deal in the long run. Unlike our basketball program, the baseball program has tough kids & will respond positively.

3. Lastly, here is picture of behind home plate tonight in the 5th inning well before the Womens' Basketball game started.

https://i.imgur.com/im3reXX.png

I am just failing to understand why these seats are always empty.

Who are the people that own these seats?
Why do they choose to never show up for baseball games?
Why would people spend money on these baseball seats & never come to games?

We are considered one of the top 3 most passionate baseball fan bases in the country, yet this issue continues to make us look like shit.
Can you imagine turning on an Alabama football game & seeing blocks of empty seats on the 50 yard line?
Can you imagine turning on a Duke game & seeing empty lower seats at Cameron?

Why is this ok? If these people just want to spend money, then do everyone a favor & just make a donation & let others that actually attend baseball games sit in those seats. It's a problem that has existed far too long, cheapens our baseball program, & is apparently well beyond the mental capacity of our athletic department to fix. It look absolutely awful on TV.

[smootness]

Some thoughts:

1. Screw everything

[Skydawg1]

Who are the people that own these seats? - Our richest alumni
Why do they choose to never show up for baseball games? - Too old to get to games anymore
Why would people spend money on these baseball seats & never come to games? - because we are MState.

[msstate7]

Some thoughts:

1. Screw everything

Haha... I'm bout to hit a casino

[BeardoMSU]

Haha... I'm bout to hit a casino

If you see Michael Jordan there, could you please ask him to come teach our players how to not suck? Thanks in advance.**

[Maroonthirteen]

If you put the university of Alabama In Eutaw. Removed all their football national championships. Also, required them to play three games a weekend, one of which is on a workday. Then yeah,...... I can see the comparison.

[ShotgunDawg]

Who are the people that own these seats? - Our richest alumni
Why do they choose to never show up for baseball games? - Too old to get to games anymore
Why would people spend money on these baseball seats & never come to games? - because we are MState.

Well tell them to just make a donation & stop taking seats from people that actually want to attend baseball games. They are legitimately hurting our program to some extent due to this. It looks terrible on TV

[fader2103]

I been looking for Chairback seats to any home weekend series and can't find any on vividseat, seatgeek or any other sites. I hate not getting to enjoy a game where high dollar seats aren't being used and I have to do standing room only type stuff.

[Todd4State]

The grandstand issue is way past beyond time to fix. And we have the technology available to fix it. What we have done is basically taken the average Joe fan and thrown them on the grass or we make them stand while there are hundreds of empty seats in the grandstand. And you can't just sit in a seat usually because the overzealous ushers make sure everyone is in their assigned seats.

I think it's at the point now where seats in the grandstand only should matter for Super Bulldog Weekend and postseason play. And that's it. Every other game- open seating first come first served.

[Saltydog]

Here are some quick thoughts:

1. It shouldn't surprise anyone with what happened in our basketball game. The basketball program has too many clowns in it & has for sometime. It's extremely obvious that we have to recruit tougher kids. Hopefully Perry & Woodard are that. The program has lacked tough leadership for a decade.

2. Don't look to much into the baseball loss tonight. Auburn had a good bit go there way to win that one. It'll be good to see how this team handles adversity. Tough loss tonight but not a big deal in the long run. Unlike our basketball program, the baseball program has tough kids & will respond positively.

3. Lastly, here is picture of behind home plate tonight in the 5th inning well before the Womens' Basketball game started.

https://i.imgur.com/im3reXX.png

I am just failing to understand why these seats are always empty.

Who are the people that own these seats?
Why do they choose to never show up for baseball games?
Why would people spend money on these baseball seats & never come to games?

We are considered one of the top 3 most passionate baseball fan bases in the country, yet this issue continues to make us look like shit.
Can you imagine turning on an Alabama football game & seeing blocks of empty seats on the 50 yard line?
Can you imagine turning on a Duke game & seeing empty lower seats at Cameron?

Why is this ok? If these people just want to spend money, then do everyone a favor & just make a donation & let others that actually attend baseball games sit in those seats. It's a problem that has existed far too long, cheapens our baseball program, & is apparently well beyond the mental capacity of our athletic department to fix. It look absolutely awful on TV.

From someone who owns chairbacks let me say this; it's extremely hard to get to all three games on a weekend if you don't live immediately in the area or within a reasonable commuting distance. It's not like football where you are going to just one game a weekend. By the time you get off work on a Friday afternoon it's hard to get down there on time. If I can't get there, I always try to ensure my tickets are used and offer them up. It's very easy to do now that they can be transferred to someone, anyone electronically to their email address. Plus, the crowds will get bigger as the weather begins to warm as well.

[Matt3467]

Here are some quick thoughts:

1. It shouldn't surprise anyone with what happened in our basketball game. The basketball program has too many clowns in it & has for sometime. It's extremely obvious that we have to recruit tougher kids. Hopefully Perry & Woodard are that. The program has lacked tough leadership for a decade.

2. Don't look to much into the baseball loss tonight. Auburn had a good bit go there way to win that one. It'll be good to see how this team handles adversity. Tough loss tonight but not a big deal in the long run. Unlike our basketball program, the baseball program has tough kids & will respond positively.

3. Lastly, here is picture of behind home plate tonight in the 5th inning well before the Womens' Basketball game started.

https://i.imgur.com/im3reXX.png

I am just failing to understand why these seats are always empty.

Who are the people that own these seats?
Why do they choose to never show up for baseball games?
Why would people spend money on these baseball seats & never come to games?

We are considered one of the top 3 most passionate baseball fan bases in the country, yet this issue continues to make us look like shit.
Can you imagine turning on an Alabama football game & seeing blocks of empty seats on the 50 yard line?
Can you imagine turning on a Duke game & seeing empty lower seats at Cameron?

Why is this ok? If these people just want to spend money, then do everyone a favor & just make a donation & let others that actually attend baseball games sit in those seats. It's a problem that has existed far too long, cheapens our baseball program, & is apparently well beyond the mental capacity of our athletic department to fix. It look absolutely awful on TV.

I actually laughed out loud after we lost to Liberty because of two things: It's typical for us and we just blasted Ole Miss for getting blown out by Oklahoma and this is more embarrassing. Posters on here talking about how we're going to blow the lid off Liberty and of course we lose. We don't just lose to any typical 12 seed either it has to be Liberty......lol I'm sure anyone here with two brain cells to rub together can see the irony in all this.

Not upset about the baseball game as far as the outcome is concerned. We'll be alright. You'd want better attendance but heck we had a Mens basketball tournament game for the first time in ages and our #1 seeded womens team is playing as well. Doesn't surprise me so I wouldn't look to deep into that.

[maroonmania]

Who are the people that own these seats?
Why do they choose to never show up for baseball games?
Why would people spend money on these baseball seats & never come to games?



Don't you know, all of those folks were in San Jose. They were the only ones who could afford to go across country for the game.***

[HoopsDawg]

The grandstand issue is way past beyond time to fix. And we have the technology available to fix it. What we have done is basically taken the average Joe fan and thrown them on the grass or we make them stand while there are hundreds of empty seats in the grandstand. And you can't just sit in a seat usually because the overzealous ushers make sure everyone is in their assigned seats.

I think it's at the point now where seats in the grandstand only should matter for Super Bulldog Weekend and postseason play. And that's it. Every other game- open seating first come first served.

Amen to everything in this post.

[HoopsDawg]

I actually laughed out loud after we lost to Liberty because of two things: It's typical for us and we just blasted Ole Miss for getting blown out by Oklahoma and this is more embarrassing. Posters on here talking about how we're going to blow the lid off Liberty and of course we lose. We don't just lose to any typical 12 seed either it has to be Liberty......lol I'm sure anyone here with two brain cells to rub together can see the irony in all this.

Not upset about the baseball game as far as the outcome is concerned. We'll be alright. You'd want better attendance but heck we had a Mens basketball tournament game for the first time in ages and our #1 seeded womens team is playing as well. Doesn't surprise me so I wouldn't look to deep into that.

Good job. I wish all chairback holders were like you. The simplest solution is to tell the ushers to stop checking tickets after the Top of the 2nd. If you aren't in your seat by then, too fcking bad. Sit in another empty seat.

ETA: Meant to reply to Saltydawg with this post.

[Skydawg1]

Tonight's attendance was 10029. Just FYI. I believe that's the largest crowd of the season so far. Tomorrow will be yuge.

[ShotgunDawg]

Tonight's attendance was 10029. Just FYI. I believe that's the largest crowd of the season so far. Tomorrow will be yuge.

Let me be clear. We don't have a baseball attendance issue.

We have an attendance issue only with the rich 17ers that buy the prime grand stand seats.

I wouldn't say anything if these seats were just empty sometimes, but they are literally empty EVERY.SINGLE.GAME

The people that own those seats and many other in the grand stand only attend 1 or 2 series a year & the regionals.

I'm not here to say that they should be attending, but for goodness sake don't continue to buy the prime stadium seats & not show up; thus making our baseball program look bad.

Watch an LSU, Arkansas, or Ole Miss home SEC series & you'll see that for some reason they don't have this issue

[Saltydog]

Not sure of your locale Shotgun but let's say you lived in Jackson or south of there and you didn't get off work until 5! Would you be there Friday night at 6 and then back again Saturday at 2 and then again Sunday at noon? That's tough to do. Now, if you're a local yocal then maybe but not all of us are that close. Going back to Saturday doubleheaders would help alleviate this issue but that's not going to happen. Again, I try to ensure my seats are taken if I can't get there but I can't speak for everyone else.

[Liverpooldawg]

Here are some quick thoughts:

1. It shouldn't surprise anyone with what happened in our basketball game. The basketball program has too many clowns in it & has for sometime. It's extremely obvious that we have to recruit tougher kids. Hopefully Perry & Woodard are that. The program has lacked tough leadership for a decade.

2. Don't look to much into the baseball loss tonight. Auburn had a good bit go there way to win that one. It'll be good to see how this team handles adversity. Tough loss tonight but not a big deal in the long run. Unlike our basketball program, the baseball program has tough kids & will respond positively.

3. Lastly, here is picture of behind home plate tonight in the 5th inning well before the Womens' Basketball game started.

https://i.imgur.com/im3reXX.png

I am just failing to understand why these seats are always empty.

Who are the people that own these seats?
Why do they choose to never show up for baseball games?
Why would people spend money on these baseball seats & never come to games?

We are considered one of the top 3 most passionate baseball fan bases in the country, yet this issue continues to make us look like shit.
Can you imagine turning on an Alabama football game & seeing blocks of empty seats on the 50 yard line?
Can you imagine turning on a Duke game & seeing empty lower seats at Cameron?

Why is this ok? If these people just want to spend money, then do everyone a favor & just make a donation & let others that actually attend baseball games sit in those seats. It's a problem that has existed far too long, cheapens our baseball program, & is apparently well beyond the mental capacity of our athletic department to fix. It look absolutely awful on TV.

You left out the ladies. Thay rolled.

[Liverpooldawg]

Baseball... we lost a close one to a very good team. We will struggle to win this series after losing that one It's baseball. Men's basketball: It was bad...but getting to the Dance is an enourmous step forward. We don't have a birthright to get there. The Ladies, which you ignored, rolled.....as they should have.

[Coursesuper]

To all those bitching about chair back seats at baseball. Understand your Athletic Department doesn’t give a shit if anyone sits in those seats they only care about the dollars spent to buy them. With the new stadium we successfully killed off a generation of people that were a big part of Supporting the baseball program for the last 40 years. This is just the reality of the situation the people that used to sit in chair back seats were priced out of them. The only thing that matters is the $$.

[Todd4State]

Not sure of your locale Shotgun but let's say you lived in Jackson or south of there and you didn't get off work until 5! Would you be there Friday night at 6 and then back again Saturday at 2 and then again Sunday at noon? That's tough to do. Now, if you're a local yocal then maybe but not all of us are that close. Going back to Saturday doubleheaders would help alleviate this issue but that's not going to happen. Again, I try to ensure my seats are taken if I can't get there but I can't speak for everyone else.


To all those bitching about chair back seats at baseball. Understand your Athletic Department doesn’t give a shit if anyone sits in those seats they only care about the dollars spent to buy them. With the new stadium we successfully killed off a generation of people that were a big part of Supporting the baseball program for the last 40 years. This is just the reality of the situation the people that used to sit in chair back seats were priced out of them. The only thing that matters is the $$.

Even more reason to do it my way. You buy season tickets- your seat is reserved for SBW and postseason play only. Every other game is open season.

[ShotgunDawg]

Not sure of your locale Shotgun but let's say you lived in Jackson or south of there and you didn't get off work until 5! Would you be there Friday night at 6 and then back again Saturday at 2 and then again Sunday at noon? That's tough to do. Now, if you're a local yocal then maybe but not all of us are that close. Going back to Saturday doubleheaders would help alleviate this issue but that's not going to happen. Again, I try to ensure my seats are taken if I can't get there but I can't speak for everyone else.

I get your point sand it's a unique issue to MSU. However, unique issues require unique solutions and these seats are empty every game.

Lets just find a solution

[ShotgunDawg]

To all those bitching about chair back seats at baseball. Understand your Athletic Department doesn?t give a shit if anyone sits in those seats they only care about the dollars spent to buy them. With the new stadium we successfully killed off a generation of people that were a big part of Supporting the baseball program for the last 40 years. This is just the reality of the situation the people that used to sit in chair back seats were priced out of them. The only thing that matters is the $$.

I don't agree with this

I think Cohen very much wants those seats to be filled. He cares deeply about the baseball program.

[Todd4State]

I don't agree with this

I think Cohen very much wants those seats to be filled. He cares deeply about the baseball program.

The problem is and always will be the old geezer asshole that's BUT I PAID FOR MY SEAT!guy. He's going to be the one raising hell against the guy that just wants to watch the game.

I agree with you on this. The grandstand people aren't pulling their weight. And I don't think the ticket exchange is working all that well either. Time to simplify it and let people sit in the grandstand.

[Bothrops]

Because our stadium is awesome, and offers the ability for fans to walk around the park during a game, you're going to see this. Unless the game is at, or near full capacity, I expect people to come and go from their seats.

[parabrave]

Here are some quick thoughts:

1. It shouldn't surprise anyone with what happened in our basketball game. The basketball program has too many clowns in it & has for sometime. It's extremely obvious that we have to recruit tougher kids. Hopefully Perry & Woodard are that. The program has lacked tough leadership for a decade.

2. Don't look to much into the baseball loss tonight. Auburn had a good bit go there way to win that one. It'll be good to see how this team handles adversity. Tough loss tonight but not a big deal in the long run. Unlike our basketball program, the baseball program has tough kids & will respond positively.

3. Lastly, here is picture of behind home plate tonight in the 5th inning well before the Womens' Basketball game started.

https://i.imgur.com/im3reXX.png

I am just failing to understand why these seats are always empty.

Who are the people that own these seats?
Why do they choose to never show up for baseball games?
Why would people spend money on these baseball seats & never come to games?

We are considered one of the top 3 most passionate baseball fan bases in the country, yet this issue continues to make us look like shit.
Can you imagine turning on an Alabama football game & seeing blocks of empty seats on the 50 yard line?
Can you imagine turning on a Duke game & seeing empty lower seats at Cameron?

Why is this ok? If these people just want to spend money, then do everyone a favor & just make a donation & let others that actually attend baseball games sit in those seats. It's a problem that has existed far too long, cheapens our baseball program, & is apparently well beyond the mental capacity of our athletic department to fix. It look absolutely awful on TV.

The seating is not only a MSU problem. I regularly attend the Shuckers games in Biloxi where the Casinos have purchased most of the seats and yes there are always empty.

[Joe Schmedlap]

I been looking for Chairback seats to any home weekend series and can't find any on vividseat, seatgeek or any other sites. I hate not getting to enjoy a game where high dollar seats aren't being used and I have to do standing room only type stuff.


Look on Stubhub. I have a friend that has gotten tickets there twice this season.

[Steakonastick]

We can’t afford to piss off the big boosters by giving away their seats to first come first serve. That 10% of our fan base pays 90% of the bills. And i am sorry for the general admission fans who think they should
be entitled to the best seats in the house. But we have to reward people who donate and purchase season tickets. Our school has a little over 12,000 Bulldog Club memebers. That number is piss poor for a fan base our size.

But it’s a no win situation for our athletic dept. And this is a problem every school in the country is having. You just notice ours more since the grandstand is at ground level now.

[AROB44]

We can?t afford to piss off the big boosters by giving away their seats to first come first serve. That 10% of our fan base pays 90% of the bills. And i am sorry for the general admission fans who think they should
be entitled to the best seats in the house. But we have to reward people who donate and purchase season tickets. Our school has a little over 12,000 Bulldog Club memebers. That number is piss poor for a fan base our size.

But it?s a no win situation for our athletic dept. And this is a problem every school in the country is having. You just notice ours more since the grandstand is at ground level now.

+1000. Rep Given

[ShotgunDawg]

Because our stadium is awesome, and offers the ability for fans to walk around the park during a game, you're going to see this. Unless the game is at, or near full capacity, I expect people to come and go from their seats.

This is most certainly not the issue in this case

[Activated Alpha]

I fully expected for the men's basketball team to lose against Liberty. They have been too much of a roller coaster team and I saw it coming. The baseball team just barely lost. Now I know they had a 5-0 run lead going into the 6th, but Small knows he can't just leave fastballs up as beach balls. SEC hitters will take advantage of that. The only solace is that our hitters were hitting the ball very well, but just right at their outfielders. It happens every now and then. Hopefully we can come into today's game with a killer instinct and put Auburn away for these two games.

[ShotgunDawg]

We can’t afford to piss off the big boosters by giving away their seats to first come first serve. That 10% of our fan base pays 90% of the bills. And i am sorry for the general admission fans who think they should
be entitled to the best seats in the house. But we have to reward people who donate and purchase season tickets. Our school has a little over 12,000 Bulldog Club memebers. That number is piss poor for a fan base our size.

But it’s a no win situation for our athletic dept. And this is a problem every school in the country is having. You just notice ours more since the grandstand is at ground level now.

I agree with this while believing there is some room for a creative solution.

Look, MSU is unique. It's in the middle of nowhere in a small town and it's fanbase lives 2 hours away in all directions. It's a unique problem that requires a unique solution. I'm not sure there is any other power 5 school in country with this unique issue. Thus we may have to find an outside the box solution that has been never been done before. One that the major boosters can live with.

I'm curious what's more important to these boosters, "their seats" or "the health of the program"

[Cooterpoot]

It’s not hard. The school can work with those boosters to sell their unused tickets to other state fans. This isn’t hard. Shit, it’s easy.

[Coursesuper]

I don't agree with this

I think Cohen very much wants those seats to be filled. He cares deeply about the baseball program.

You can not agree all you want. But your still wrong and and naive and you know jack shit about how things work. The AD doesn’t give a damn about asses In seats as long as the $$$ flow.

[Jarius]

Not sure of your locale Shotgun but let's say you lived in Jackson or south of there and you didn't get off work until 5! Would you be there Friday night at 6 and then back again Saturday at 2 and then again Sunday at noon? That's tough to do. Now, if you're a local yocal then maybe but not all of us are that close. Going back to Saturday doubleheaders would help alleviate this issue but that's not going to happen. Again, I try to ensure my seats are taken if I can't get there but I can't speak for everyone else.

Then get your tickets to someone who can use them (like you do). It's not that hard. There are a crap ton of people that would love to be at the games where there are hundreds of empty seats in the grandstands and nowhere to purchase said seats. Buying those tickets and just not making the effort to give them to someone is a crappy thing to do. It really is not hard to find someone who wants seats that good, especially on weekend series.

[Saltydog]

Even more reason to do it my way. You buy season tickets- your seat is reserved for SBW and postseason play only. Every other game is open season.

I would suggest something a little different. If a chairback owner decides he/she's not going to the game and doesn't have someone specifically to transfer the tix too (I occasionally have that issue for some midweek games), they could simply transfer them back to the box office. Then, anyone could walk up and purchase unoccupied chairbacks. The school would capitalize as they would have sold the tix essentially twice. Again, this would require some discipline of behalf of the season tix owner but I absolutely hate for my tix to go unused and would do it every single time I couldn't make it or didn't have someone taking my tix.

[ShotgunDawg]

I would suggest something a little different. If a chairback owner decides he/she's not going to the game and doesn't have someone specifically to transfer the tix too (I occasionally have that issue for some midweek games), they could simply transfer them back to the box office. Then, anyone could walk up and purchase unoccupied chairbacks. The school would capitalize as they would have sold the tix essentially twice. Again, this would require some discipline of behalf of the season tix owner but I absolutely hate for my tix to go unused and would do it every single time I couldn't make it or didn't have someone taking my tix.

But now your asking the season ticket holder to do something that could be a hassle.

How about a notification going out to the season ticket holders phone 12 hours before game time.

The notification would ask: How many of your tickets will you use for today's game?

Ticket holder selects how many, gets bulldog points added to their account for the unused ones, and the unused go on sale to GA.

Easy peasy, problem solved. The key is the notification system and the athletic departments taking the initiative rather expecting the fan too.

[99jc]

Let me be clear. We don't have a baseball attendance issue.

We have an attendance issue only with the rich 17ers that buy the prime grand stand seats.

I wouldn't say anything if these seats were just empty sometimes, but they are literally empty EVERY.SINGLE.GAME

The people that own those seats and many other in the grand stand only attend 1 or 2 series a year & the regionals.

I'm not here to say that they should be attending, but for goodness sake don't continue to buy the prime stadium seats & not show up; thus making our baseball program look bad.

Watch an LSU, Arkansas, or Ole Miss home SEC series & you'll see that for some reason they don't have this issue

I have some damn good seats not directly behind home plate but not far I always make sure my seats are given away to friends in Starkville. I cant speak for the rest of the rich 17ers.

[ShotgunDawg]

I have some damn good seats not directly behind home plate but not far I always make sure my seats are given away to friends in Starkville. I cant speak for the rest of the rich 17ers.

That's awesome. Please continue to do so. However, it's clear your in the minority on this and most people don't do a thing with their seats

[Saltydog]

We can?t afford to piss off the big boosters by giving away their seats to first come first serve. That 10% of our fan base pays 90% of the bills. And i am sorry for the general admission fans who think they should
be entitled to the best seats in the house. But we have to reward people who donate and purchase season tickets. Our school has a little over 12,000 Bulldog Club memebers. That number is piss poor for a fan base our size.

The number of bulldog club members is quite embarrassing. You don't have to give a large amount at all to join. I'm not sure there's a minimum amount required to join.

[Steakonastick]

The number of bulldog club members is quite embarrassing. You don't have to give a large amount at all to join. I'm not sure there's a minimum amount required to join.

Give a 100 bucks a year. That’s it.

[Saltydog]

But now your asking the season ticket holder to do something that could be a hassle.

How about a notification going out to the season ticket holders phone 12 hours before game time.

The notification would ask: How many of your tickets will you use for today's game?

Ticket holder selects how many, gets bulldog points added to their account for the unused ones, and the unused go on sale to GA.

Easy peasy, problem solved. The key is the notification system and the athletic departments taking the initiative rather expecting the fan too.

I agree with a notification system of some sort but sometime I will not know if I'm going to be able to attend until the day of the game itself. What's the old saying, "shit happens". There obviously won't be a one size fits all solution that makes everyone happy but there are some things that could reasonably be done to make the process easier and allow those who aren't season tix owners to occupy the unused seats of the "rich effers" (lol) as you suggest. BTW, I can assure you I'm not one of them. I'm simply a guy that loves MSU baseball and has been attending games at the Dude since the late 70's.

[shannondawg]

$ is what built the stadium.

[shannondawg]

I would suggest something a little different. If a chairback owner decides he/she's not going to the game and doesn't have someone specifically to transfer the tix too (I occasionally have that issue for some midweek games), they could simply transfer them back to the box office. Then, anyone could walk up and purchase unoccupied chairbacks. The school would capitalize as they would have sold the tix essentially twice. Again, this would require some discipline of behalf of the season tix owner but I absolutely hate for my tix to go unused and would do it every single time I couldn't make it or didn't have someone taking my tix.

I see the logic in what you are saying, but then many season tickets holders would say "why buy tickets, I can get better seats on game day without the premium."

[ShotgunDawg]

$ is what built the stadium.

Nobody is disagreeing with that.

That's why the solution needs to work for everyone.

[Saltydog]

I see the logic in what you are saying, but then many season tickets holders would say "why buy tickets, I can get better seats on game day without the premium."

Ok then, charge more for the seat. The tix are $10/seat. Charge $20, charge $30. In addition, if the season tix owner did as you suggest, well they wouldn't be guaranteed a ticket and would have to wait in line at the ticket office to get one. Most don't or wouldn't want to do this only to move a section or two over from what they may have had. I don't have all the answers but I do agree there needs to be a better system in place to utilize the grandstand seats.

[Saltydog]

Nobody is disagreeing with that.

That's why the solution needs to work for everyone.

AND therein lies the problem Shotgun. There won't be a solution that works for everyone.

[ShotgunDawg]

I see the logic in what you are saying, but then many season tickets holders would say "why buy tickets, I can get better seats on game day without the premium."

Since these people don't attend games anyway, it seems like they are just making a donation and thus would still buy the full season ticket.

[ShotgunDawg]

AND therein lies the problem Shotgun. There won't be a solution that works for everyone.


I disagree. My idea of a notification system works for everyone.

[Dawg2003]

Maybe I'm wrong, but those empty seats are bringing in revenue. How much I don't know.

[Saltydog]

I disagree. My idea of a notification system works for everyone.

Actually, it doesn't. I'll give you an example. My son is in school at State. If I can't make it, which is usually during the week, I'll tell him to take the tix and take him and his buds. Now, most of the time he won't know until the afternoon of the game whether or not he can make it (awfully hard to nail down college kids if you know what I mean). Now, I could've possibly given them to someone else that may have gone but my family always has and always will get first shot. Again, your system could work but to suggest it's full proof is a fallacy.

[Saltydog]

Maybe I'm wrong, but those empty seats are bringing in revenue. How much I don't know.

Yes, and allowing the owner to electronically return the seat to the box office for resale at double the face value would create even more revenue for the program and allow those that can attend premium seating.

[msstate7]

Yes, and allowing the owner to electronically return the seat to the box office for resale at double the face value would create even more revenue for the program and allow those that can attend premium seating.

What's the benefit to the ticket owner to do this? They'd have to get compensated some for the resale

[ShotgunDawg]

Actually, it doesn't. I'll give you an example. My son is in school at State. If I can't make it, which is usually during the week, I'll tell him to take the tix and take him and his buds. Now, most of the time he won't know until the afternoon of the game whether or not he can make it (awfully hard to nail down college kids if you know what I mean). Now, I could've possibly given them to someone else that may have gone but my family always has and always will get first shot. Again, your system could work but to suggest it's full proof is a fallacy.

You're misunderstanding my plan.

There is no punishment for pushing "yes" to attending the game & then not attending. You are completely free to carry on as you always have.

However, if you push "no" then your seats go on sale & you get bulldog club points.

The system doesn't force anyone to do anything. It just makes it easier for people to do something & they get rewarded if they do.

[ShotgunDawg]

What's the benefit to the ticket owner to do this? They'd have to get compensated some for the resale

Bulldog club points or maybe a $1 off voucher at the concessions added to their account.

We can come up with simple little incentives.

Could create a concessions app like Starbucks has where they scan your app when your at the counter or a phone number points system like Walgreens, CVS, & Jersey Mikes have. Little discounts can be added & subtracted through that.

[Saltydog]

What's the benefit to the ticket owner to do this? They'd have to get compensated some for the resale

The benefit is that the seat would potentially have a body in it. I don't expect anything in return for the owner. The school and the person who bought the tickets would be the winners.

[shannondawg]

At least we have sro crowds , so what if a few seats go unused that are bought and paid for, bet more sec schools would give their eye teeth to have that problem.

[HoopsDawg]

You're misunderstanding my plan.

There is no punishment for pushing "yes" to attending the game & then not attending. You are completely free to carry on as you always have.

However, if you push "no" then your seats go on sale & you get bulldog club points.

The system doesn't force anyone to do anything. It just makes it easier for people to do something & they get rewarded if they do.

I like your thoughts but it's really just as simple as opening up the grandstand after the 2nd inning.

[ShotgunDawg]

I like your thoughts but it's really just as simple as opening up the grandstand after the 2nd inning.

True

[BuckyIsAB****]

The grandstand issue is way past beyond time to fix. And we have the technology available to fix it. What we have done is basically taken the average Joe fan and thrown them on the grass or we make them stand while there are hundreds of empty seats in the grandstand. And you can't just sit in a seat usually because the overzealous ushers make sure everyone is in their assigned seats.

I think it's at the point now where seats in the grandstand only should matter for Super Bulldog Weekend and postseason play. And that's it. Every other game- open seating first come first served.

I agree with that. Or at least do it like they used to and open it up after the 5th or 6th inning, whatever it was

[BankerDog]

I have a question Shotgun...where were you last night? Were you at the game?

[AROB44]

I have a question Shotgun...where were you last night? Were you at the game?

Probably not since he couldn't get a seat behind home plate. Maybe we just should have random drawings before each game to see who gets the best seats. That way the poor folks can be elevated to the same level as the "rich" ones. Socialism will arrive at the Dude.

[Jarius]

Probably not since he couldn't get a seat behind home plate. Maybe we just should have random drawings before each game to see who gets the best seats. That way the poor folks can be elevated to the same level as the "rich" ones. Socialism will arrive at the Dude.

I will be happy to pay more than what the people paid to get tickets in the grandstand who never show up. We have a waiting list for season tickets. The problem is not poor people wanting to sit in the grandstands. The problem is that our tickets are too cheap to make people not think twice about buying season tickets to just not go to games. Our demand is much higher than the price.

[CadaverDawg]

I will be happy to pay more than what the people paid to get tickets in the grandstand who never show up. We have a waiting list for season tickets.

Don't bring facts into an old folks "get off my lawn" session*

[HoopsDawg]

Probably not since he couldn't get a seat behind home plate. Maybe we just should have random drawings before each game to see who gets the best seats. That way the poor folks can be elevated to the same level as the "rich" ones. Socialism will arrive at the Dude.

What a dipshit, bullshit post.

[ShotgunDawg]

I have a question Shotgun...where were you last night? Were you at the game?

Again, you are missing the point with this post.

WE dO nOt HaVe a basEBALL ATtendeNce PrOBLem, WE HaVe A GraNDsTanD SeATinG PrOblEM