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KOdawg1
03-17-2019, 04:25 PM
we're about 30 minutes out. Last chance for predictions. I say we're a 6 seed and we go 1-1 in the tournament. Good year overall, and we'll be back next year.

RougeDawg
03-17-2019, 04:27 PM
We deserve a 5 seed. Being MSU, that usually lands us a 7 seed. No bad losses and a top 20 net. No reason we should not be a 5 seed, but I?ve been watching MSU sports my entire life and know that we rarely get what we deserve when the human element is involved in the selection process.

CadaverDawg
03-17-2019, 04:37 PM
I'm going with a 6 seed

msstate7
03-17-2019, 04:38 PM
6 is the safe bet... please don't pair us with TT or FSU though

CadaverDawg
03-17-2019, 04:40 PM
6 is the safe bet... please don't pair us with TT or FSU though

Yeah I'm hoping for Houston, but even that would be tough

Renardo Sidney
03-17-2019, 04:58 PM
I’m just excited that we’re in it at all after 10 years

TheRef
03-17-2019, 05:00 PM
Here's the team in the Football Recruiting Lounge for tonight's announcement

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D15HTNzWkAASNX5.jpg

TheRef
03-17-2019, 05:03 PM
East Region

(Overall #1) #1 Duke vs #16 NC Central/North Dakota State
#8 VCU vs #9 UCF

#5 Mississippi State vs #12 Liberty
#4 Virginia Tech vs #13 Saint Louis

#6 Maryland vs #11 Belmont/Temple
#3 LSU vs #14 Yale

#7 Louisville vs #10 Minnesota
#2 Michigan State vs #15 Bradley

msstate7
03-17-2019, 05:04 PM
That was quick. Maybe we will get to face duke in the S16

DancingRabbit
03-17-2019, 05:04 PM
Sweeeeet

5 seed vs Liberty

Quaoarsking
03-17-2019, 05:04 PM
We better not lose to a fake university run by fake Christians. I wonder if Hugh will be in the audience.

KOdawg1
03-17-2019, 05:05 PM
WOW. Legit chance to make the sweet 16

MaroonFlounder
03-17-2019, 05:05 PM
Is that Univ of Bucky Freeze we are playing?

TheRef
03-17-2019, 05:06 PM
Is that Univ of Bucky Freeze we are playing?

It sure is

msbulldog
03-17-2019, 05:06 PM
I think it's gonna be us vs. Duke in the sweet 16! Q shuts Zion Down!

TheRef
03-17-2019, 05:07 PM
Dude on CBS just said that Liberty is going to beat us for his first Upset pick.

Liverpooldawg
03-17-2019, 05:07 PM
Both CBS talking heads pick Liberty to beat us.

Liverpooldawg
03-17-2019, 05:07 PM
Three point shot team.

BeardoMSU
03-17-2019, 05:08 PM
Is that Univ of Bucky Freeze we are playing?

Sure is. Get your massage oil, Ketamine, and phosphorescent white chompers ready. It's party time.

TheRef
03-17-2019, 05:09 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D15JJO1WwAAx22E.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D15JJO0X4AAOiOD.jpg

MaroonFlounder
03-17-2019, 05:09 PM
It's us against the world. No surprise. Respect has to be earned

KOdawg1
03-17-2019, 05:09 PM
Man this feels good. It's been awhile

msstate7
03-17-2019, 05:10 PM
Pomeroy for each:
State...
overall 21st
Off 14th
Def 51st

Liberty...
Overall 63rd
Off 56th
Def 96th

BeardoMSU
03-17-2019, 05:11 PM
Man this feels good. It's been awhile

Indeed. I love this draw.

TheRef
03-17-2019, 05:13 PM
South Region

(#2 Overall) #1 Virginia vs #16 Gardner-Webb
#8 Bearsharks vs #9 Oklahoma

#5 Wisconsin vs #12 Oregon
#4 Kansas State vs #13 UC Irvine

#6 Villanova vs #11 Saint Mary's
#3 Purdue vs #14 Old Dominion

#7 Cincinnati vs #10 Iowa
#2 Tennessee vs #15 Colgate

Quaoarsking
03-17-2019, 05:13 PM
Indeed. I love this draw.

I like the first-round draw pretty well, but Virginia Tech looks unusually strong for a 4-seed.

RocketDawg
03-17-2019, 05:14 PM
Sweeeeet

5 seed vs Liberty

So both teams have to travel 2500 miles to play in San Jose.

Liverpooldawg
03-17-2019, 05:14 PM
Rebs 8 seed vs Oklahoma. Win and they get Virginia.

BigEasyDawg
03-17-2019, 05:15 PM
I would hate to see it but I honestly wouldn't be suprised if the black bears beat Virginia (if Virginia doens't lost to a 16 again)

KOdawg1
03-17-2019, 05:15 PM
Liberty lost to Vandy. Enough said.

RocketDawg
03-17-2019, 05:16 PM
3 1-seeds from the ACC probably.

Basketball conference ....

msstate7
03-17-2019, 05:16 PM
I would hate to see it but I honestly wouldn't be suprised if the black bears beat Virginia (if Virginia doens't lost to a 16 again)

You've lost your mind.

BigEasyDawg
03-17-2019, 05:17 PM
You've lost your mind.

Just saying, that's a very OM thing to do. But they probably won't make it past OU.

Liverpooldawg
03-17-2019, 05:17 PM
I would hate to see it but I honestly wouldn't be suprised if the black bears beat Virginia (if Virginia doens't lost to a 16 again)

Virginia will beat them like a rented mule, IF the Confederates get by Oklahoma, which they may not.

msstate7
03-17-2019, 05:18 PM
Just saying, that's a very OM thing to do. But they probably won't make it past OU.

Virginia absolutely blew it last season, but they did lose a valuable player. This year, they won the acc that has 3 1-seeds. Virginia will not bow out early this year

Quaoarsking
03-17-2019, 05:22 PM
Virginia absolutely blew it last season, but they did lose a valuable player. This year, they won the acc that has 3 1-seeds. Virginia will not bow out early this year

They don't have a very good track record under Bennett. Here's their last 5 years:
2014 - 1 seed, lost to 4 Michigan State in S16
2015 - 2 seed, lost to 7 Michigan State in 2nd round
2016 - 1 seed, lost to 10 Syracuse in E8
2017 - 5 seed, lost to 4 Florida in 2nd round
2018 - 1 seed, lost to 16 UMBC in 1st round

BigEasyDawg
03-17-2019, 05:23 PM
Virginia absolutely blew it last season, but they did lose a valuable player. This year, they won the acc that has 3 1-seeds. Virginia will not bow out early this year

You're prob right. Hopefully we will get some redemption from 05 against Coach K

TheRef
03-17-2019, 05:24 PM
Midwest Region

(#3 Overall) #1 North Carolina vs #16 Iona
#8 Utah State vs #9 Washington

#5 Auburn vs #12 New Mexico State
#4 Kansas vs #13 Northeastern

#6 Iowa State vs #11 Ohio State
#3 Houston vs #14 Georgia State

#7 Wofford vs #10 Seton Hall
#2 Kentucky vs #15 Abilene Christian

shoeless joe
03-17-2019, 05:24 PM
3 1-seeds from the ACC probably.

Basketball conference ....

But the media doesn’t cry about it like they do the SEC dominating football

CadaverDawg
03-17-2019, 05:26 PM
Brutal bracket, but a very winnable first two games

msstate7
03-17-2019, 05:27 PM
Kentucky cake walk

RougeDawg
03-17-2019, 05:27 PM
So the Klansharts get to travel to South Carolina and we have to travel about as far away as physically possible in the lower 48? Thought you were supposed to get rewarded with higher seeds.

maroonmania
03-17-2019, 05:29 PM
It's us against the world. No surprise. Respect has to be earned

We never get any respect in any sport except maybe baseball so might as well just ignore it. But the baseball respect has been earned going back to the 70s and 80s.

BigEasyDawg
03-17-2019, 05:29 PM
Auburn with a cake walk to the Sw. 16

msstate7
03-17-2019, 05:31 PM
I really don't see any way we don't end up with duke vs Michigan st and North Carolina vs Kentucky. Those will be epic games

KOdawg1
03-17-2019, 05:32 PM
Guys this is a good draw. Who cares about the location, our fans wouldn't travel anyway. We have a legit shot at the sweet 16 where we will most likely get smoked by Duke, but name a 1 seed that we wouldn't get smoked by. I'm pumped

TheRef
03-17-2019, 05:34 PM
West Region

(#4 Overall) #1 Gonzaga vs #16 Fairly Dickinson/Prairie View A&M
#8 Syracuse vs #9 Baylor

#5 Marquette vs #12 Murray State
#4 Florida State vs #13 Vermont

#6 Buffalo vs #11 Arizona State/St. John's
#3 Texas Tech vs #14 Northern Kentucky

#7 Nevada vs #10 Florida
#2 Michigan vs #15 Montana

TheRef
03-17-2019, 05:38 PM
Last 4 In

Belmont
Temple
Arizona State
St John's

First 4 Out
UNC Greensboro
Alabama
TCU
Indiana

TheRef
03-17-2019, 05:40 PM
Conference Breakdown (Multiple Bid Conferences)

Big 10: 8
ACC: 7
SEC: 7
Big 12: 6
American: 4
Big East: 4
PAC 12: 3
Mountain West: 2
West Coast: 2
Ohio Valley: 2
Atlantic 10: 2

RocketDawg
03-17-2019, 05:42 PM
Guys this is a good draw. Who cares about the location, our fans wouldn't travel anyway. We have a legit shot at the sweet 16 where we will most likely get smoked by Duke, but name a 1 seed that we wouldn't get smoked by. I'm pumped

There may not be any spectators at all at the game.

I wonder how super-conservative Liberty feels about traveling to California, especially the ultra-liberal Bay Area?

RougeDawg
03-17-2019, 05:43 PM
Guys this is a good draw. Who cares about the location, our fans wouldn't travel anyway. We have a legit shot at the sweet 16 where we will most likely get smoked by Duke, but name a 1 seed that we wouldn't get smoked by. I'm pumped

If we played somewhere remotely close I would try to make the games. I went the last Time we went. Was a fun weekend n

BeardoMSU
03-17-2019, 05:52 PM
traveling to California, especially the ultra-liberal Bay Area?

Lots of massage parlors in the Bay Area, bro

You'll see a bunch of Liberty fans in disguise so they can remain anonymous from their fellow Liberty fans....(insert Baptist fishing and beer joke).**

KOdawg1
03-17-2019, 05:58 PM
If we played somewhere remotely close I would try to make the games. I went the last Time we went. Was a fun weekend n

I would try to go too. Our guys are getting to go to Cali though. They'll be pumped.

I seen it dawg
03-17-2019, 05:58 PM
Happy to be able to watch us play in the dance. I'll be in Vegas so I love that time slot.

msstate7
03-17-2019, 06:01 PM
Happy to be able to watch us play in the dance. I'll be in Vegas so I love that time slot.

So awesome. I'll be a "slightly" lesser version, miss gulf coast haha

WSOPdawg
03-17-2019, 06:02 PM
I'm just glad that finally, basketball is relevant again for us... FINALLY!!!

Ari Gold
03-17-2019, 06:07 PM
So the Klansharts get to travel to South Carolina and we have to travel about as far away as physically possible in the lower 48? Thought you were supposed to get rewarded with higher seeds.

We didn’t even go to the games here in Starkville .. plus the 8/9 1/16 are in Columbia

Ari Gold
03-17-2019, 06:08 PM
Little FYI
We were also a 5 seed in 1996 ...

Ari Gold
03-17-2019, 06:09 PM
Buzz may have Aggie Land on his mind ...

RocketDawg
03-17-2019, 06:10 PM
Little FYI
We were also a 5 seed in 1996 ...

I'm surprised that Auburn wasn't seeded higher.

RougeDawg
03-17-2019, 06:22 PM
We didn?t even go to the games here in Starkville .. plus the 8/9 1/16 are in Columbia

And this applies to us having to travel as far away as you can possibly go in lower 48 in what way? Auburn got screwed too. Salt Lake City. Who selects these locations? San Jose California being an East bracket site makes absolutely zero sense. You cannot make an argument for it. None.

TheRef
03-17-2019, 06:24 PM
And this applies to us having to travel as far away as you can possibly go in lower 48 in what way? Auburn got screwed too. Salt Lake City. Who selects these locations? San Jose California being an East bracket site makes absolutely zero sense. You cannot make an argument for it. None.

They pick the first and second round sites and usually each site will hold games from two regions

Then there's another list for the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 (Regional Finals)

Then there's yet another list for the Final Four and Championship Game sites

Just because you're in the East Region doesn't necessarily mean anything. Just means your Regional Semis and Finals will be in the "East"

Ari Gold
03-17-2019, 06:26 PM
They pick the first and second round sites and usually each site will hold games from two regions

Then there's another list for the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 (Regional Finals)

Then there's yet another list for the Final Four and Championship Game sites

Just because you're in the East Region doesn't necessarily mean anything. Just means your Regional Semis and Finals will be in the "East"

Thank you ...

Saltydog
03-17-2019, 06:28 PM
Lots of massage parlors in the Bay Area, bro

You'll see a bunch of Liberty fans in disguise so they can remain anonymous from their fellow Liberty fans....(insert Baptist fishing and beer joke).**

Funniest shit I've read on this board in a long time.....

Turfdawg67
03-17-2019, 06:30 PM
Little FYI
We were also a 5 seed in 1996 ...

I like the karma, but we should've been higher in '96. They picked the teams before our game with UK was over. They assumed we'd lose to them and put us as a 5th seed.

Saltydog
03-17-2019, 06:31 PM
I'm surprised that Auburn wasn't seeded higher.

I thought so too. Thought they would end up a 4.....

RougeDawg
03-17-2019, 06:37 PM
They pick the first and second round sites and usually each site will hold games from two regions

Then there's another list for the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 (Regional Finals)

Then there's yet another list for the Final Four and Championship Game sites

Just because you're in the East Region doesn't necessarily mean anything. Just means your Regional Semis and Finals will be in the "East"

I wasn?t asking you to explain the obvious, captain obvious. I know how the process works. I was asking how a selection process allows a site to be as physically as far away from the region it is supposed to be representing. I?m saying the entire process makes zero sense. And if you do have to make selections of locations with some idiotic method, at least reward the teams who are seeded higher.

Same as Hartford CT being a West location? How does that make sense? I?m talking logical explanation, not the way they select. At least select more centrally located sites if you are going to allows human beings on a committee to penalize a 5 seed by sending them as far away as you could possibly send them in lower 48.

I seen it dawg
03-17-2019, 06:40 PM
I wasn?t asking you to explain the obvious, captain obvious. I know how the process works. I was asking how a selection process allows a site to be as physically as far away from the region it is supposed to be representing. I?m saying the entire process makes zero sense. And if you do have to make selections of locations with some idiotic method, at least reward the teams who are seeded higher.

Same as Hartford CT being a West location? How does that make sense? I?m talking logical explanation, not the way they select. At least select more centrally located sites if you are going to allows human beings on a committee to penalize a 5 seed by sending them as far away as you could possibly send them in lower 48.

Why the **** you got to be a ****ing asshole? If this is your attitude all the time then just ****ing go somewhere else. Zero reason to be an asshole to The Ref. Unbeknownst to you, you aren't a ****ing genius on everything of this message board or the world. ****ing get over yourself.

Saltydog
03-17-2019, 06:44 PM
I would hate to see it but I honestly wouldn't be suprised if the black bears beat Virginia (if Virginia doens't lost to a 16 again)

It honestly wouldn't surprise me either. I think they'll beat Oklahoma. I've seen them a couple of times and I think UM will get past them. UVA is elite defensively but UM has enough firepower to play with them, IMO. Matters not, I just want us to get by Liberty and then see what happens. As of now, nobody is giving us a chance. Liberty shots the 3 well so it would sure be great to get Nick back out there on the perimeter for his D but that's a whole other subject unto itself.

Quaoarsking
03-17-2019, 06:49 PM
I wasn?t asking you to explain the obvious, captain obvious. I know how the process works. I was asking how a selection process allows a site to be as physically as far away from the region it is supposed to be representing. I?m saying the entire process makes zero sense. And if you do have to make selections of locations with some idiotic method, at least reward the teams who are seeded higher.

Same as Hartford CT being a West location? How does that make sense? I?m talking logical explanation, not the way they select. At least select more centrally located sites if you are going to allows human beings on a committee to penalize a 5 seed by sending them as far away as you could possibly send them in lower 48.

We aren't a high seed, so we don't get any reward. They build the brackets before they assign sites. Then the 1 seeds get matched up with their closest site (Duke - Columbia SC, Virginia - Columbia, North Carolina- Columbus now that Columbia is unavailable, Gonzaga - Salt Lake City). Then the 2 seeds get the best of whatever's left, followed by the 3s and 4s getting the scraps.

There aren't a lot of Western teams in the tournament at all this year, so San Jose was still around when the pod with 4-seed Virginia Tech came up.

The fact that a 5-seed Mississippi State got a farther away site than 8-seed Ole Miss is not claimed to be a consideration of the Committee. Ole Miss got put in Duke's pod, and therefore goes to the site that is lined up for Duke. We got put in Virginia Tech's pod and had to take a scrap. If sucked and Stanford were a 1 seed, and Ole Miss got put in Stanford's pod, they would be going out to San Jose and maybe we'd get Columbia if it were still available.

And also as a disclaimer, all of the above is just approximate. You'll probably find some examples of 2/3/4 seeds in sites that don't seem to be the most ideal for them, but either was as a 5-seed, we're not getting any preference.

Quaoarsking
03-17-2019, 06:59 PM
Additional info:

2 of the 8 sites out are out West - Salt Lake City and San Jose.
However, only 1 of the top 16 seeds is Western (Gonzaga). So the 4 pods getting sent out West are the ones including 1 Gonzaga ... and 4 Kansas, 4 Kansas State, and 4 Virginia Tech.

Liverpooldawg
03-17-2019, 07:11 PM
I wasn?t asking you to explain the obvious, captain obvious. I know how the process works. I was asking how a selection process allows a site to be as physically as far away from the region it is supposed to be representing. I?m saying the entire process makes zero sense. And if you do have to make selections of locations with some idiotic method, at least reward the teams who are seeded higher.

Same as Hartford CT being a West location? How does that make sense? I?m talking logical explanation, not the way they select. At least select more centrally located sites if you are going to allows human beings on a committee to penalize a 5 seed by sending them as far away as you could possibly send them in lower 48.
Jeez man, it's a seeded tournament. There really isn't anything "regional" about it except for the names.

TheRef
03-17-2019, 07:33 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D15pUqgXcAU3uFs.jpg

BeardoMSU
03-17-2019, 07:47 PM
I wasn?t asking you to explain the obvious, captain obvious. I know how the process works. I was asking how a selection process allows a site to be as physically as far away from the region it is supposed to be representing. I?m saying the entire process makes zero sense. And if you do have to make selections of locations with some idiotic method, at least reward the teams who are seeded higher.

Same as Hartford CT being a West location? How does that make sense? I?m talking logical explanation, not the way they select. At least select more centrally located sites if you are going to allows human beings on a committee to penalize a 5 seed by sending them as far away as you could possibly send them in lower 48.

Sanctimonious Level: 11

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SailingDawg
03-17-2019, 08:09 PM
TruTV. For us cable cutters, how will that be accessible? Is it on Hulu's live package?

TheRef
03-17-2019, 08:10 PM
TruTV. For us cable cutters, how will that be accessible? Is it on Hulu's live package?

Hulu and YoutubeTV both offer TruTV on their live packages.

I seen it dawg
03-17-2019, 08:38 PM
The Ref coming strong in this thread. Nice job young man.

ScoobaDawg
03-18-2019, 01:59 AM
Hulu and YoutubeTV both offer TruTV on their live packages.

As does Playstation vue.

TheRef
03-18-2019, 05:11 AM
I guess my comeback was worth it tonight