Game 2 at Florida

[The Federalist Engineer]

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Ginn on the mound

Hatcher at DH

[MetEdDawg]

Should be low scoring. I think we win 3-1 today.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Wonder why Gilbert and Jones that were hitting are on the bench

[KOdawg1]

Leadoff HR by Mangum. 1-0 MSU

[parabrave]

And Jake gets an early start. Boom.

[MetEdDawg]

Got a run and made their guy throw 21 pitches. Good job but damn on Westy and Allen. About 3-4 pitches called strikes were balls but they both looked at pitches that had already been called strikes that at bat.

[TopDawg]

There goes Mangum swinging at the first pitch again. ***

[Percho]

Different strike zone today. However I like it if both ways,

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Hatcher was correct to lay off that- it was low and away. hope this ump is consistent with it and Iv'e got no problems

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

There goes Mangum swinging at the first pitch again. ***

High fastball over the middle of the plate that he turned on is miles different than swinging at a low outside fb just becasue it's a strike.

Again I'm 100% fine with sitting on a pitch early. If the pitcher throws what you're waiting on you get it. My issue has been with the swinging at well thrown pitches he can't drive just because it's a strike

[KOdawg1]

Westburg fields it cleanly but a bad throw gives the Gators a 2 out baserunner

[CadaverDawg]

Dammit Westburg. Make the routine play there. Should have been a quick inning

[shoeless joe]

Dammit Westburg. Make the routine play there. Should have been a quick inning

Only 1 extra pitch so no harm. I like fla approach at the plate from our perspective

[CadaverDawg]

Only 1 extra pitch so no harm. I like fla approach at the plate from our perspective

Yeah, glad that E didn't cost us more pitches

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Small might be the better pitcher right now but I like watching Ginn more. Maybe it's that I'm still surprised he came to campus but dear lord I love watching him

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

2 zero strike swings give Florida 2 outs on 3 pitches. At least Westy's early swing made solid contact

[KOdawg1]

That inning is on Jake. 5 pitches.

[chef dixon]

We line out to infielders on the reg

[Spectre]

Small might be the better pitcher right now but I like watching Ginn more. Maybe it's that I'm still surprised he came to campus but dear lord I love watching him

Season on the line I want JT out there

[CadaverDawg]

Small might be the better pitcher right now but I like watching Ginn more. Maybe it's that I'm still surprised he came to campus but dear lord I love watching him

He's got that cocky swagger too that you hate when it's on the other team, but love when he's on yours, ha

[MetEdDawg]

That inning is on Jake. 5 pitches.

Tried to get cute. Figured after his homer the defense might back off a step or two and he could get a cheap hit.

Hitters need to hit. Not smart on his part

[Choctaw Dawg]

Lead off double for Flarda

[Choctaw Dawg]

Lineout to center. One out and man still on second

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

rain coming down

[Choctaw Dawg]

Jeez that slider is nasty

[chef dixon]

Hope no delays mess up our pitching

[Choctaw Dawg]

Three straight sliders, just embarrassed that dude

[chef dixon]

Dude erased the hell out of that lead off double

[KOdawg1]

Getting JT Ginn on campus may be the greatest achievement Lemonis has ever had

[CadaverDawg]

Attaboy Ginn! Worked out of a leadoff double

[parabrave]

six pitch inning. not bad, not bad at all.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Ginn must hide the ball really well because it seems like every game they can't pick up the spin. makes the hitter look like me up there

heck of a job after that double. Man Ginn is fun to watch.

[CadaverDawg]

Wasn't it Federalist Engineer that said JT was a one pitch pitcher a few weeks ago? FedEng, are you a believer in that slider now, my brother?

[KOdawg1]

I didn't see that ball land. Holy crap, he torched that. 2-0

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Allen turned that ball into a pancake lol

[parabrave]

Good one for Tanner.

[KOdawg1]

I though Fosc had another one

[Choctaw Dawg]

I though Fosc had another one

It sure looked like it off the bat

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I though Fosc had another one

Yeah we aren't doing much with this P but when we do catch one we really catch it. Like you say Foscue took it for a ride. Is there wind that knocked it down?

[KOdawg1]

His slider is unhittable

[Spectre]

Terrible ump today

[KOdawg1]

Wtf Rowdey. Like I've said, he needs to sit a few games

[Choctaw Dawg]

Another soft hit by rowdy, it’s getting past time at this point

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

3 pitches, 2 weakly hit balls, 2 outs

[chef dixon]

Props to Gunnar for saving that abortion of a potential half inning

[MetEdDawg]

No guys. He's just got to hit out of it. We can't delay him getting hot. Keep hitting.

It's nothing against him but it's clear there are plenty on here that don't know baseball. At this point I'll be stunned if Rowdey plays game 3 if we can win game 2.

He's pressing and needs to sit.

[KOdawg1]

Good hit Jake

[msstate7]

Jake is a BA

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Mangum is frustrating at times, but damn is he clutch. For the record a high changeup is the kind of pith we should be swinging early at.

[Choctaw Dawg]

west burg needs to understand that those inside strikes are called on him because he stands right on the plate, he’s getting frustrated really easily up there by it

[chef dixon]

Westy is racking up the K?s this year

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I noticed Westy K's a lot on inside fbs he doesn't offer at. Seems like teams have seen it on film and really go at him inside now

[Percho]

West has killed my heart for 2 days looking at strikes.

[CadaverDawg]

Westburg has GOT to start turning on the inside fastball. He takes it every time

[chef dixon]

God I would hate Ginn if he were on the other team

[Choctaw Dawg]

I’m speechless, JT does what he wants up there

[The Federalist Engineer]

Thanks JT, this DH is not good for our pen- we need the starters to pitch well

[The Federalist Engineer]

Macnamee! Macnamee! Leaping around The bases- HR

Dogs 4 Mullenites 0

[KOdawg1]

We're letting it fly

[chef dixon]

Leftwich needs to just hit the showers

[KOdawg1]

Yeah, I'd fake an injury too

[chef dixon]

Welcome to SEC ball Freshman

[msstate7]

Yeah, I haven't watched a whole lot of vandy, but they're gonna have to be flat out god level to be a better team than us. We legit

[KOdawg1]

Perfect opportunity for Rowdey to break out of it here. Ducks on the pond, low pressure situation since we're up by 5. Just hit.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Yeah, I haven't watched a whole lot of vandy, but they're gonna have to be flat out god level to be a better team than us. We legit

Didn't we elimate their ass at their place last year? If it weren't for two blown saves, it would not have been 3 games

[Percho]

KS doesn't look as smirky as usual!

[The Federalist Engineer]

5-0 MSU leads with UF on the 3rd pitcher in the 6th

[KOdawg1]

Shit Rowdey

[Saltydog]

Perfect opportunity for Rowdey to break out of it here. Ducks on the pond, low pressure situation since we're up by 5. Just hit.

You know, it's a fine line with Rowdey. You know he's got to be overthinking everything right now. So, do you sit him, which might make a bad situation worse, or do you let him hit his way out of it. Tough call.

[MetEdDawg]

You know, it's a fine line with Rowdey. You know he's got to be overthinking everything right now. So, do you sit him, which might make a bad situation worse, or do you let him hit his way out of it. Tough call.

Explain how it can get worse. He's hitting .093 in the month of March.

[Homedawg]

He was safe at home

[Spectre]

You know, it's a fine line with Rowdey. You know he's got to be overthinking everything right now. So, do you sit him, which might make a bad situation worse, or do you let him hit his way out of it. Tough call.

It’s timing. Unfortunately we don’t play 162. Slumping in college ball can last half a season. Can’t afford it.

[Saltydog]

You know, sometimes a guy in a slump is hitting some balls hard but can't get one to fall. However, that's not the case with Rowdey. He's not coming close to hitting anything hard and that's whats concerning.

[MetEdDawg]

You know, sometimes a guy in a slump is hitting some balls hard but can't get one to fall. However, that's not the case with Rowdey. He's not coming close to hitting anything hard and that's whats concerning.

That's why he needs a break. Most people saying he should stay in probably haven't watched him hit much until today to see just how bad it is.

[KOdawg1]

That's why he needs a break. Most people saying he should stay in probably haven't watched him hit much until today to see just how bad it is.

This. He's not even making good contact. He's tapping the ball back to the pitcher.

[Saltydog]

Explain how it can get worse. He's hitting .093 in the month of March.

I'm referring to the mental aspect and approach. A guy that has started his whole career getting benched absolutely kills any shred of confidence that might be left.

[Saltydog]

This. He's not even making good contact. He's tapping the ball back to the pitcher.

Or popping it up to the infield......

[Percho]

How good would this team be with Stoval at second base?

[Saltydog]

He was safe at home

I thought so too HD. Surprised they didn't review it. Surely Lemonis was asking for a review.

[MetEdDawg]

I'm referring to the mental aspect and approach. A guy that has started his whole career getting benched absolutely kills any shred of confidence that might be left.

He's a sophomore not a 4th year senior. If he's that mentally weak he should be benched anyway. He's not that mentally weak though. And same question. Tell me how he's hurt more mentally than he is now if he takes a game off?

Coaches do what's best for the team and to hell with mentality. Rowdey at this current moment does not give us the best chance to win. Best chance is Jones at DH and someone other than Rowdey in LF.

[CadaverDawg]

That run was on Westburg. He needs to be better with the glove

[KOdawg1]

All Mangum was really missing from being a top MLB draft pick was his power. He's showing some today.

[smootness]

That run was on Westburg. He needs to be better with the glove

On him and Mangum both. Doesn't score without both of those bobbles.

[sack07]

On him and Mangum both. Doesn't score without both of those bobbles.

They earned it back.

[smootness]

This team is so good.

[KOdawg1]

What was that Dustin

[KOdawg1]

Alright, he's tired. Get him out of there

[smootness]

The heck are we doing defensively

[MarketingBully]

Why Rowdy didn’t throw the ball to second I have no idea.

[MaroonFlounder]

Why was Foscue not closer to the line vs RH hitter?

[smootness]

Time for a change

[MetEdDawg]

Why was Foscue not closer to the line vs RH hitter?

Because no righty has been turning on Ginn today.

[MaroonFlounder]

That run was on Westburg. He needs to be better with the glove

Halter would be the better defensive SS.

[Saltydog]

Well, unfortunately Ginn's final numbers won't accurately reflect how well he really pitched today. Need to get him outta there now.

[MaroonFlounder]

Because no righty has been turning on Ginn today.

But a freshman closing in on 90 pitches at the time

[MetEdDawg]

But a freshman closing in on 90 pitches at the time

Still has a plus FB. Don't hug the line. The real issue on that play is why he didn't get that ball to 2nd. Run didn't mean anything up 7-1 and that would keep the double play intact

[MarketingBully]

Why did we leave Ginn out there?

[CadaverDawg]

Why would we leave him in there this long? I thought we had depth....use it, Foxhall

[smootness]

Don't really understand why we left Ginn In after it was pretty clear he was done.

[MarketingBully]

When he was missing badly, we should have gotten him out. Liebelt was ready two batters ago and we allowed two more runs as well because we left Ginn out there way too long.

[MetEdDawg]

Why did we leave Ginn out there?

Needs pitches. Needs to face some adversity and needed to work into the 90s. We had the runs to play with too. If you trust your bullpen and your players you still win this game. But hopefully Ginn learned a little today.

[Percho]

Why would we leave him in there this long? I thought we had depth....use it, Foxhall

They made it into a movie.

idiocracy 2006

[CadaverDawg]

Now they're right back in it. What a dumb move. First head scratcher by our coaching staff. You gotta close out a 7-1 lead and road series win at a top 5 team. Can't screw around and leave a guy out there that is clearly done

[CadaverDawg]

Needs pitches. Needs to face some adversity and needed to work into the 90s. We had the runs to play with too. If you trust your bullpen and your players you still win this game. But hopefully Ginn learned a little today.

Your views on this vs Rowdey are ironic

[smootness]

Needs pitches. Needs to face some adversity and needed to work into the 90s. We had the runs to play with too. If you trust your bullpen and your players you still win this game. But hopefully Ginn learned a little today.

Don't understand how that helped Ginn, and it definitely hurt us.

Lemonis is the one I'm hoping learned a little.

[CadaverDawg]

Halter & Westburg are starting to concern me in the field

[MarketingBully]

Hopefully we can get some runs back with Florida now in the field in the pouring rain.

[smootness]

Halter & Westburg are starting to concern me in the field

Westburg made a couple nice plays there. The Halter throw was probably due to a wet ball.

[MetEdDawg]

Your views on this vs Rowdey are ironic

There's a massive difference between a freshman Saturday starter and a sophomore LF batting in the 8 hole.

Rowdey has faced adversity for 19 games. Ginn has pitched in 5 in his whole college career. We need Ginn to learn how to pitch when he's tired and doesn't have his best stuff.

Pitching and hitting are so different it's amazing you think their situations are comparable.

[MarketingBully]

Halter & Westburg are starting to concern me in the field

It’s pouring down rain and that benefits the ones batting not fielding.

[Percho]

I would always have someone in the bullpen throwing.

[CadaverDawg]

There's a massive difference between a freshman Saturday starter and a sophomore LF batting in the 8 hole.

Rowdey has faced adversity for 19 games. Ginn has pitched in 5 in his whole college career. We need Ginn to learn how to pitch when he's tired and doesn't have his best stuff.

Pitching and hitting are so different it's amazing you think their situations are comparable.

Ok

[KOdawg1]

Your views on this vs Rowdey are ironic

I agree with you that we should've pulled him. But this and Rowdey's situation are completely different. Rowdey is pushing 3-40 in the month of March. He's faced adversity all month. This was the first time Ginn has really struggled.

[CadaverDawg]

It’s pouring down rain and that benefits the ones batting not fielding.

They have not been great in the sun either. I'm not basing these thoughts on one game in the rain

[MetEdDawg]

Don't understand how that helped Ginn, and it definitely hurt us.

Lemonis is the one I'm hoping learned a little.


We are going to need Ginn to learn how to pitch at the college level when he's running out of gas. Great pitchers learn how to pitch when they are tired.

We need Ginn to be able to reflect on this. He will sit with Foxhall and talk about the mental approach of what Ginn felt when he got tired and started losing his control. It will be a valuable learning experience because he's never faced adversity before as a starter in college. Face it now so you can learn from it and use it when the games truly matter.

[No BS Dawg]

I am concerned about Halter and his ability to play 2nd. I cringe every time a ball is hit his way just because I don't feel comfortable with it going there.

[KOdawg1]

I am concerned about Halter and his ability to play 2nd. I cringe every time a ball is hit his way just because I don't feel comfortable with it going there.

I'm the same way with Westy at SS

[MarketingBully]

Now it will start to pour again. These conditions aren’t the best either and could have had an effect on Ginn and the fielders.

[No BS Dawg]

Damn, it sure seems we have looked at a lot of called third strikes this series. Maybe we have, but I don't have a count.

[CadaverDawg]

Damn, it sure seems we have looked at a lot of called third strikes this series. Maybe we have, but I don't have a count.

Take out Westburg's and it hasn't been many

[No BS Dawg]

Take out Westburg's and it hasn't been many

That may be what it is then.

[smootness]

Westburg has done it all year. He is really good, but with a few tweaks he could be incredible.

[MarketingBully]

Now we need to add a couple of runs this inning with Allen, Mac, and Foscue up and finish this thing off to win this series.

[CadaverDawg]

Westburg has done it all year. He is really good, but with a few tweaks he could be incredible.

Yep. He is so close to being a beast

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Leibelt is solid as heck. Wouldn't mind him getting more 2 inning outings vs the 1 he usually gets, especially with Gordon being inconsistent

[Saltydog]

Take out Westburg's and it hasn't been many

He's definitely struggling with the inside fastball but has recently shown issues with the breaking ball, low and away.

[No BS Dawg]

Does Allen have a resemblances to John Cena?! Anyone else see a little of that?

[MarketingBully]

Hard to field when it’s pouring 9-4 Dogs!

[dantheman4248]

Never too many insurance runs.

[chef dixon]

I?d just have liebelt finish it

[KOdawg1]

Dusty is 3-5 today. Hell freaking yes.

[MarketingBully]

17 hits. That’s impressive.

[MetEdDawg]

I?d just have liebelt finish it

Send out Spring or someone else that hasn't gotten a lot of time. Let them pitch in a big atmosphere with a massive lead.

[Saltydog]

Does Allen have a resemblances to John Cena?! Anyone else see a little of that?

Yeah, I can see that. The wife thinks Foscue looks like Charlie Sheen. Not the effed up one we see now. The young one in Platoon.

[CadaverDawg]

We are hot today. Damn, this is fun

[sack07]

We all cool with Skelton now, right?

[BeardoMSU]

We are really ****ing good.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/l2JJOiGM3FWi9L2JW/giphy.gif

[msstate7]

We are running Florida out their own stadium. This is one hell of a team, and the topper is they young... we can get better

[Saltydog]

Dusty is 3-5 today. Hell freaking yes.

His average doesn't reflect it but Dusty has hit the ball hard the last few weeks.

[smootness]

Send out Spring or someone else that hasn't gotten a lot of time. Let them pitch in a big atmosphere with a massive lead.

If Liebelt won't pitch in game 3, and I imagine he won't, I'd at least let him try to get another out or two. I know we're up 6, but I don't want any chance of them coming back. Shut it down, take the series, and a top 3 ranking.

[MarketingBully]

We are running Florida out their own stadium. This is one hell of a team, and the topper is they young... we can get better

JT Ginn is the best pitcher I’ve seen in college in a long time. If he develops an average change he could be the number 1 overall pick next year.

[msstate7]

We all cool with Skelton now, right?

The transformation started in the postseason last year. Not sure what flipped the light on for him, but it obviously has come on

[smootness]

We are really ****ing good.

Yup

Never know how the season plays out, but right now nobody is better than us.

[MetEdDawg]

If Liebelt won't pitch in game 3, and I imagine he won't, I'd at least let him try to get another out or two. I know we're up 6, but I don't want any chance of them coming back. Shut it down, take the series, and a top 3 ranking.

We are up 6 and it could be more. If we can't win this game with Spring or someone else young going out there then that's concerning.

He's probably gonna keep Leibelt in there though after what happened last night. But this is perfect for a guy like Spring or even Cerantola.

[Percho]

Poor Rowdy?

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Rowdey's gotta sit a few games at some point and reset

[MetEdDawg]

I hope the Rowdey debate is settled after this game. Needs to take a break

[smootness]

We are up 6 and it could be more. If we can't win this game with Spring or someone else young going out there then we aren't good.

He's probably gonna keep Leibelt in there though after last night.

I get it, but I don't like the 'then we aren't good anyway' games. Never know when a guy doesn't have it and suddenly they have momentum and you can't stop it. We saw a little bit of it last night. We are clearly good and need to finish games out.

I'm sure we'd be fine with anybody, just saying that if Liebelt is done either way, might as well get what you can out of him.

[dantheman4248]

Gotta figure you give Rowdey this second game of the double header to get a hit and if he doesn’t get something going sit him during the midweek games and maybe next weekend if whoever you put in produces and keeps good defense. Playing through it isn’t working so maybe he needs a break.

[Percho]

That was a great at bat look at 2 swing, kinda, at one.

[Saltydog]

JT Ginn is the best pitcher I?ve seen in college in a long time. If he develops an average change he could be the number 1 overall pick next year.

Reminds me of Kevin Abel from Oregon State.

[MarketingBully]

Yeah Rowdey only player in the lineup not to get a hit today. 17 hits overall.

[Jarius]

Rowdey has to sit at this point because he looks so bad that it is almost like making fun of him
Letting him keep on going out there. Put him out of his misery. It has to be embarrassing to be hitting that bad on a team that is so good.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We are running Florida out their own stadium. This is one hell of a team, and the topper is they young... we can get better

Yep. Yesterday Small didn't have his best stuff and Gordon was trash, yet we still won it. Today Ginn was his usual self and the coaches messed up leaving him in too long, still will win easily. Now we've got a pitching advantage for game 3. Absolutely fantastic weekend. I think we've scored in over half the innings

[smootness]

Gotta figure you give Rowdey this second game of the double header to get a hit and if he doesn’t get something going sit him during the midweek games and maybe next weekend if whoever you put in produces and keeps good defense. Playing through it isn’t working so maybe he needs a break.

I'd sit him tonight and let him get back in there midweek. Then if he still doesn't look better, consider sitting him at least to start next weekend.

But there's no point in sitting him midweek.

[MetEdDawg]

Like the color guy said. Bat isn't in the zone long. That pop up was on a 2-0 FB down the gut. He's just way off and he's been off for a while.

My guess is this is the first time a lot of folks on here have actually seen him hit. It's not good right now.

[Percho]

nice play

[KOdawg1]

This may not make any sense, but would it be a terrible idea to have Rowdey turn around to the right side and hit? Forget about if he's facing a RHP or LHP, maybe just trying something different could get something going. I know last year he was worse from the right side, but something has to give here

[CadaverDawg]

What a huge win! Can't believe we're going for the sweep this afternoon. Hail Damn State!! This team is good

[MetEdDawg]

Deepest team from top to bottom we've had in a while. And it's still a young team too. We are really good

[No BS Dawg]

Series win on the road to start SEC play against a ranked opponent. Great job guys! Now playing with house money for a chance at a sweep.

I would sit Rowdy with whoever in left, play Jones at catcher, and DH Skelton to give him and his knees a little rest. Hopefully James can give us a quality start.

[Cooterpoot]

Today was the first time I've seen Rowdy really look out of sorts. His ABs were hard to watch. He's obviously pressing and out of confidence right now. I think he sits midweek and you go from there. Not sure he gets pulled next game but we'll see.

[State82]

I hope the Rowdey debate is settled after this game. Needs to take a break

Yes this is beyond ridiculous. He has to sit.

[dantheman4248]

I'd sit him tonight and let him get back in there midweek. Then if he still doesn't look better, consider sitting him at least to start next weekend.

But there's no point in sitting him midweek.


I’d sit him midweek to not only give the extended break to him, but also make sure his replacement keeps up the proper level of defense before putting whoever out there in SEC play.

[msstate7]

What were rowdey's fall numbers?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Most impressive thing to me is how our O doesn't let up. I think we've scored in over half the frames this series... that's unreal, and shows consistent performance. it's not just a couple bad innings for Florida, we're consistently getting after their pitchers. Their D hasn't been bad either

[Saltydog]

Like the color guy said. Bat isn't in the zone long. That pop up was on a 2-0 FB down the gut. He's just way off and he's been off for a while.

My guess is this is the first time a lot of folks on here have actually seen him hit. It's not good right now.

After seeing that last a/b I'm gonna agree w/you Met.....You know, he's never had a pretty swing and his mechanics aren't great anyway but I'm not sure a simple tweak to his mechanics would work or not but you might as well try something. What's the old saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Surely Hatcher can play lf, right? He looks better at the plate than Cumbest does, and is certainly hitting better than Jordan.

[MarketingBully]

Most impressive thing to me is how our O doesn't let up. I think we've scored in over half the frames this series... that's unreal, and shows consistent performance. it's not just a couple bad innings for Florida, we're consistently getting after their pitchers. Their D hasn't been bad either

Gautreau and Lemonis are elite offensive coaches. Add to that we kept Gautreau and his approach and that consistency has helped even through having 4 different head coaches in 4 years. It’s amazing how consistent we’ve been these last four years SR, SR, CWS, and possibly another CWS run this year. I don’t think that gets stated enough. We are an elite baseball school.

[MetEdDawg]

My lineup game 3 would be this:

Mangum - CF
Westy - SS
Allen - 1B
Mac - RF
Foscue - 3B
Skelton - DH
Jones - C
Jordan - 2B
Hatcher - LF

[chef dixon]

My lineup game 3 would be this:

Mangum - CF
Westy - SS
Allen - 1B
Mac - RF
Foscue - 3B
Skelton - DH
Jones - C
Jordan - 2B
Hatcher - LF

Our fans want to throw Halter to the wolves so bad but he keeps making a big play in every game

[MetEdDawg]

Our fans want to throw Halter to the wolves so bad but he keeps making a big play in every game

I'm fine with Halter but Landon needs at bats. Game 3 of a series we've already won on the road at Florida is a great time to do that.

Got to continue developing depth and this is the game you do that in.

[chef dixon]

I'm fine with Halter but Landon needs at bats. Game 3 of a series we've already won on the road at Florida is a great time to do that.

Got to continue developing depth and this is the game you do that in.

Agree and good points.

[Homedawg]

Halter is slow getting jumps defensively. Yet he's better than Landon right now defensively. Starting Hatcher in LF is a big step down defensively. With the way we are pitching and have hit this eeekend is stay w defense for now. I get it, at some point rowdy has to sit though. He's missed multiple cock shots that he's dribbled it popped straight up.

[MetEdDawg]

And honestly I would let everyone pitch today. Spring, Cerantola, Eagan, Barlow, and anyone else we want. Let these guys get experience on the road in an SEC environment in a game that really doesn't matter.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

I'm fine with Halter but Landon needs at bats. Game 3 of a series we've already won on the road at Florida is a great time to do that.

Got to continue developing depth and this is the game you do that in.

We've got a team that could win the SEC, let's play the best 9 we have and try to win game 3. Give people at bats midweek.

[MetEdDawg]

Halter is slow getting jumps defensively. Yet he's better than Landon right now defensively. Starting Hatcher in LF is a big step down defensively. With the way we are pitching and have hit this eeekend is stay w defense for now. I get it, at some point rowdy has to sit though. He's missed multiple cock shots that he's dribbled it popped straight up.

This game doesn't matter. You sit Rowdey and let other guys play. Game 3 is a get experience game, not necessarily a play to win game. You use game 3 as a chance to develop guys so they are more prepared when the games matter more in May and June.

[MetEdDawg]

We've got a team that could win the SEC, let's play the best 9 we have and try to win game 3. Give people at bats midweek.


And getting at bats against Little Rock and Sanford help them how? I don't want them getting those at bats. I want them getting at bats against good teams so they are ready when we really need them against good teams at the end of the season.

Very short sighted to just always field the best 9 against good teams and a worse 9 against bad teams.

[Dawgcap]

Hell this game matters tremendously as far as getting a sweep on the road. 2-1 is great but 3-0 weekend negates a 1-2 week later.

[msbulldog]

We've got a team that could win the SEC, let's play the best 9 we have and try to win game 3. Give people at bats midweek.

I agree, we might need that 1 win at the end of the season to break a tie or decide a seed. Play to win!

[Dawgcap]

You win the conference by most wins not most series wins.

[MetEdDawg]

Hell this game matters tremendously as far as getting a sweep on the road. 2-1 is great but 3-0 weekend negates a 1-2 week later.

No it doesn't. We aren't out here competing for individual games. We have proven we are good enough to win it all this year. Winning this game doesn't further that goal. This fan base needs to begin thinking bigger picture for this season. We are a national title contender. We need to mentally change our thought process to act like that.

[Saltydog]

And honestly I would let everyone pitch today. Spring, Cerantola, Eagan, Barlow, and anyone else we want. Let these guys get experience on the road in an SEC environment in a game that really doesn't matter.

Every SEC game matters. Would it be great to get those guys work, yes absolutely but it's more important to get the W, IMO.

[MetEdDawg]

I agree, we might need that 1 win at the end of the season to break a tie or decide a seed. Play to win!


The SEC tournament does not matter for this team. We need to think bigger picture.

[LC Dawg]

This team is good. I'm just gonna enjoy them.

[MetEdDawg]

Every SEC game matters. Would it be great to get those guys work, yes absolutely but it's more important to get the W, IMO.


Very short sighted. Winning the SEC is great. But if we don't win the SEC does that mean we can't win the national title? No. Help the team. We need to see who we can count on and that means we need to build the whole team in game 3.

[smootness]

This game doesn't matter.

What in the. Of course this game matters. It's a big game. 3-0 is way better than 2-1. 3-0 against Florida on the road is a massive start toward winning the SEC.

[Homedawg]

This game doesn't matter. You sit Rowdey and let other guys play. Game 3 is a get experience game, not necessarily a play to win game. You use game 3 as a chance to develop guys so they are more prepared when the games matter more in May and June.

Nominated for dumbest post I've ever read. Doesn't matter? Wtf

[Homedawg]

Hancock dh. Hatcher lf and Gilbert catching.

[MetEdDawg]

Nominated for dumbest post I've ever read. Doesn't matter? Wtf

Lemonis has Hancock at DH, Hatcher in LF, and Gilbert at catcher. You tell me which one of us understands the situation more.

[CadaverDawg]

Nominated for dumbest post I've ever read. Doesn't matter? Wtf

Yeah I don't understand his mindset lately

[MetEdDawg]

Yeah I don't understand his mindset lately

Like I said. Look at the lineup and tell me who has the better grasp on things. Unless you still think a Lemonis has no clue what's going on.

[MoreCowbell]

No it doesn't. We aren't out here competing for individual games. We have proven we are good enough to win it all this year. Winning this game doesn't further that goal. This fan base needs to begin thinking bigger picture for this season. We are a national title contender. We need to mentally change our thought process to act like that.

This game absolutely matters. Really weird couple of posts.

[Homedawg]

Very short sighted. Winning the SEC is great. But if we don't win the SEC does that mean we can't win the national title? No. Help the team. We need to see who we can count on and that means we need to build the whole team in game 3.

My goodness. Smmfh.....

[CadaverDawg]

Like I said. Look at the lineup and tell me who has the better grasp on things. Unless you still think a Lemonis has no clue what's going on.

He definitely has a clue....it's you I'm not sure about. This game absolutely matters. Would be HUGE to win it

[smootness]

Lemonis has Hancock at DH, Hatcher in LF, and Gilbert at catcher. You tell me which one of us understands the situation more.

Players do need SEC experience, you're right about that. So they'll have to get it somewhere, somehow. So sure, game 3 in a road series we've already won, especially in the second game of a doubleheader, is a good time to do that.

But you're kidding yourself if you think Lemonis would agree in any way, shape, or form that this game doesn't matter.

Show me a team who doesn't care about winning their 3rd conference game because, shoot, we already won the first two...and I'll show you a team that will never win a national title.

[Homedawg]

Like I said. Look at the lineup and tell me who has the better grasp on things. Unless you still think a Lemonis has no clue what's going on.


We are sitting a guy that hasn't gotten a loud foul and a catcher that's caught two games in 18 hours. You are an idiot.

[msstate7]

Like I said. Look at the lineup and tell me who has the better grasp on things. Unless you still think a Lemonis has no clue what's going on.

What are you talking about? Rowdey is being sit bc he's been terrible. You can't start a catcher both games of a double hitter.

[MoreCowbell]

Like I said. Look at the lineup and tell me who has the better grasp on things. Unless you still think a Lemonis has no clue what's going on.

You are right. He made some changes to better the lineup because why? The game 17n matters.

[MetEdDawg]

We are sitting a guy that hasn't gotten a loud foul and a catcher that's caught two games in 18 hours. You are an idiot.

Yeah except you didn't want to bench rowdey did you? Explain why Hancock at DH then?

[MetEdDawg]

We are going to play to win. Never said that. But in the big picture, this game will have zero effect on our national perception or seeding in the NCAA Tournament.

We are getting guys reps. Hancock at DH is very telling that Lemonis is playing for depth experience. You will see guys subbed in on the mound too.m even after they do well. This game will build experience more than anything.

[Saltydog]

My goodness. Smmfh.....

SPEECHLESS

[MetEdDawg]

What are you talking about? Rowdey is being sit bc he's been terrible. You can't start a catcher both games of a double hitter.

I'm not dumb. Skelton was never going to catch. But he could have been DH like he has before in a game like this. He's not.

[MoreCowbell]

This guy lol

[smootness]

But in the big picture, this game will have zero effect on our national perception or seeding in the NCAA Tournament.

Incorrect.

In national perception, sure, we already won the series, meaning even if we lose we'll come out of this very, very well. But a sweep in a series like this would make even bigger waves.

And in regard to seeding, an additional win on the road against a team like Florida is huge for RPI. You grab as many of those as you can get.

[MetEdDawg]

This is not a hard concept guys. Lemonis wants us to play hard and win. Duh. But he's not putting his best 9 out there.

Skelton could be DH. He's not. He's sitting and Hancock is getting the DH.

Everyone of you bashing me wanted Rowdey to stay in until you actually watched a damn baseball game. Now that you actually watched, all of a sudden it's "duh he's sitting he can't hit". That's not what you said 4 hours ago.


Gilbert, not Jones at catcher. That's very telling because I think all would agree Jones is the better catcher.

Come on guys. I never said we wouldn't play to win. But big picture this game is not a season difference maker. We are building depth and getting other guys reps because that's more important right now. We've got the series win we will be Top 4 next week. We are playing for a national title. Losing this game doesn't make anyone think any less of this team. But winning it pitching a bunch of guys and making lineup changes does.

[MetEdDawg]

Incorrect.

In national perception, sure, we already won the series, meaning even if we lose we'll come out of this very, very well. But a sweep in a series like this would make even bigger waves.

And in regard to seeding, an additional win on the road against a team like Florida is huge for RPI. You grab as many of those as you can get.

Then why is Skelton not the DH?

[smootness]

Then why is Skelton not the DH?

Coaches always have to balance playing your best players and getting everyone experience. You are correct that this is a good time to get a couple guys experience. You're wrong that winning this game means nothing.

Otherwise, why is Cumbest not playing? Why is Williams not playing? Why is Jordan not playing? Why is Jones not playing?

If this game doesn't help us at all, why not get everybody experience? Because winning this game is still big.

[CadaverDawg]

This is not a hard concept guys. Lemonis wants us to play hard and win. Duh. But he's not putting his best 9 out there.

Skelton could be DH. He's not. He's sitting and Hancock is getting the DH.

Everyone of you bashing me wanted Rowdey to stay in until you actually watched a damn baseball game. Now that you actually watched, all of a sudden it's "duh he's sitting he can't hit". That's not what you said 4 hours ago.


Gilbert, not Jones at catcher. That's very telling because I think all would agree Jones is the better catcher.

Come on guys. I never said we wouldn't play to win. But big picture this game is not a season difference maker. We are building depth and getting other guys reps because that's more important right now. We've got the series win we will be Top 4 next week. We are playing for a national title. Losing this game doesn't make anyone think any less of this team. But winning it pitching a bunch of guys and making lineup changes does.

Just stop

[MetEdDawg]

Coaches always have to balance playing your best players and getting everyone experience. You are correct that this is a good time to get a couple guys experience. You're wrong that winning this game means nothing.

Otherwise, why is Cumbest not playing? Why is Williams not playing? Why is Jordan not playing? Why is Jones not playing?

If this game doesn't help us at all, why not get everybody experience? Because winning this game is still big.

Because there is a middle ground between your suggestion and my suggestion. But I would be stunned if we didn't see all of those guys you mentioned today.

[MetEdDawg]

Just stop


I'm gonna guess you've never coached baseball. If you have then it doesn't make sense why you think the way you do.

Things that are clear is that Lemonis didn't do what most of this fan base said we should do 4 hours ago and say well we are winning let's just keep it the same. Did you say that before game 1 of this DH?

[CadaverDawg]

I'm gonna guess you've never coached baseball. If you have then it doesn't make sense why you think the way you do.

Things that are clear is that Lemonis didn't do what most of this fan base said we should do 4 hours ago and say well we are winning let's just keep it the same. Did you say that before game 1 of this DH?

I played. And I never said they shouldn't sit him...I said there are reasons why I can understand why they aren't. But you making a fool of yourself in your last 10-12 posts has zero to do with that, and I can definitely tell you that you're not smarter or more knowledgeable about baseball than the rest of us. And you haven't watched more games either. So just stop trying to dig out of this dumb hole you've created, because trying to call everyone else dumb and yourself a baseball genius is only making you look worse.

[Roy Munson]

You're a freakin moron

[MetEdDawg]

I played. And I never said they shouldn't sit him...I said there are reasons why I can understand why they aren't. But you making a fool of yourself in your last 10-12 posts has zero to do with that, and I can definitely tell you that you're not smarter or more knowledgeable about baseball than the rest of us. And you haven't watched more games either. So just stop trying to dig out of this dumb hole you've created, because trying to call everyone else dumb and yourself a baseball genius is only making you look worse.

I didn't cal anyone dumb. I've watched every second of every game this year. But most of us on here have that MSU mentality where we have to scrap for every win to validate ourselves. This is not one of those teams so our mentality has to be different. Unless this thing absolutely blows up, we are a 1 seed. And if we go 17-13 in conference we are a national seed.

Fan base has to think bigger picture is all I'm saying. This game is not nearly as important as it has been in the past because we aren't going to be borderline. We are there now. We are a bona fide Top 5 program this year. This fan base has to think differently is all I'm saying.

When I said this game didn't matter, that didn't mean don't play to win. It just meant we weren't going to put our best 9 out there. We didn't put our best 9 out there game 3. It's more important to develop guys like Hatcher, Gilbert, and Hancock against upper echelon programs because they may have to replicate that again in 3 months when the games matter more. And I'll be stunned if Jordan and Jones don't hit along with one or two other guys.

Of course we want to win. And we will play to win. But conventional baseball strategy, especially when it comes to personnel, will not hold in this game. That's all I'm saying.

[Ari Gold]

Wow
I see our Baseball threads are in mid season form already

[I seen it dawg]

Took 2/3 AT Florida. And made them like it.

[The Federalist Engineer]

You are right. He made some changes to better the lineup because why? The game 17n matters.

Every game matters and you play to win every game. We lost game 3 due to Keegan blowing an inning. We also left some runners in scoring position. Top 5 hitters in the order went 3 for 20 in game 3

Hancock at DH was not surrendering, LH has actually hit very well this season we just have too much talent at Catcher

Big question is why Jones never started. UFs tiny ballpark would be great for his effortless power