State vs UGA basketball thread...

[HoopsDawg]

Howland not starting Perry. Shit!!

[HoopsDawg]

MSU graphic error. Thank goodness!!

[RocketDawg]

Basketball has a little faster action than baseball. Switched over.

[MarketingBully]

No energy and sloppy. Playing like shit. Need better effort then this.

[HoopsDawg]

UGA playing with a little more energy than us in the early going. Peters with a WTF turnover. He has 2 of those per game.

[mstatefan91]

There was nothing wrong with that pass from Q. Woodard got it and then tried a circus shot. That was Woodard's fault.. not Q

[HoopsDawg]

Howland thinks you have to play 8 guys so he's got a funky lineup on the floor. Feazell with the turnover.

[mstatefan91]

These refs are calling everything

[MarketingBully]

Howland thinks you have to play 8 guys so he's got a funky lineup on the floor. Feazell with the turnover.

Why was Feazell playing? He’s great at moving screens. I’d rather have Datcher in.

[MarketingBully]

These refs are calling everything

Yeah that wasn’t a foul on Q.

[Ari Gold]

Why was Feazell playing? He’s great at moving screens. I’d rather have Datcher in.

Datcher hasn’t played all year .

[msstate7]

Nice, Holman

[msstate7]

Nice, Holman

Then a bad shot jeez

[mstatefan91]

Lamar with another bad TO

[MarketingBully]

This is an extremely shitty Georgia team we are playing and it took them getting it to 1 before bald man called a timeout.

[MarketingBully]

Datcher hasn’t played all year .

Exactly. Datcher is better and he doesn’t set moving screens and makes freethrows as well.

[BorneDawg]

score?

[msstate7]

score?

16-15 state

[RougeDawg]

Peters is a liability in there. He?s already made 3-4 horrible passes.

[HoopsDawg]

Exactly. Datcher is better and he doesn’t set moving screens and makes freethrows as well.

we played 8 just for the heck of it. Those 2 minutes of rest were worthless.

[MarketingBully]

Too many bad games by most of our players need them to get their head out of their ass and play.

[HoopsDawg]

Peters is a liability in there. He?s already made 3-4 horrible passes.

I'd love to see us go back to what worked at Arkansas with Peters on the bench. But remember that wasn't Howland's decision. It was forced due to foul trouble.

[msstate7]

Georgia hitting the floor with nothing to play for.

[HoopsDawg]

UGA is really bad. We should win this game for sure.

[HoopsDawg]

Holman with no chance vs Claxton.

[msstate7]

Holman and perry together may be the worst pair of paint defenders in the sec

[HoopsDawg]

Holman and perry together may be the worst pair of paint defenders in the sec

Just can't play those guys together.

[MarketingBully]

UGA is really bad. We should win this game for sure.

They are horrible but we are playing worse. More then that there’s not one kid out there that’s giving us anything we can hang our hat on. Worst half we played all year.

[HoopsDawg]

Holman and perry together may be the worst pair of paint defenders in the sec

Also, notice that since Ben won't change defenses we are playing at UGA's tempo. We need to get out and run.

[Ari Gold]

Took me 2 pages to remember why I don’t get on the Game hoops thread ..

[Turfdawg67]

Playing shitty... this thread should reach 12 pages easy.

[msstate7]

Q is so good offensively

[RougeDawg]

Officiating is horrible.

[msstate7]

That was ugly and effective. Atta boy, ado

[RougeDawg]

For one thing this early start time is odd. We are playing like it. Waking up a little now.

[HoopsDawg]

Q is so good offensively

Q taking over.

[MarketingBully]

Q taking this game over!

[msstate7]

Maybe we should let Q handle the ball more with nick out

[HoopsDawg]

that's how you close a fckn half!

[MarketingBully]

And that’s why UGA has one win. :) 13-0 run final 4 minutes.

[HoopsDawg]

Maybe we should let Q handle the ball more with nick out

100%

[msstate7]

That was the way a tourney team closes a half... led by an all sec player

[chef dixon]

This is the Q we were all envisioning after his freshman year pre injury. He has been amazing this month

[Howboutdemdogs]

Feeling better now. Sitting in the Gaming Room at the Beau Rivage and put $20 -6 points on State. Just putting a little skin in the game to make it interesting. But I am worried with the FLA / LSU game. LSU -7.

[msstate7]

Feeling better now. Sitting in the Gaming Room at the Beau Rivage and put $20 -6 points on State. Just putting a little skin in the game to make it interesting. But I am worried with the FLA / LSU game. LSU -7.

LSU is a 2nd half team big time

[MarketingBully]

This is what we did against Arkansas. Turn them over. UGA has no PG. We should easily force them into 20+ turnovers. That’s what we need to continue to do in the second half. Get in the passing lanes and create easy baskets on the other end. If we can go up 18-20 I think UGA will quit. Just have to keep the defensive intensity up.

[RougeDawg]

That was the way a tourney team closes a half... led by an all sec player

We started playing better after 6 pm, our normal start time for early midweek games.

[MarketingBully]

That was the way a tourney team closes a half... led by an all sec player

Need to keep it up. Would be great if Peters shows up this half. It’s astonishing how bad he’s played and we won Saturday and are up 11 at half today.

[HoopsDawg]

Q playing like Russell Westbrook.

[msstate7]

Q is sick

[LC Dawg]

It's been obvious since day one that Ado is athletic and you hoped that the game would eventually come to him. That seems to be happening more each game and it could be huge for the postseason.

[MarketingBully]

Can we get a ****ing rebound please?

[MarketingBully]

With the way our team is playing we need Q to score 40.

[msstate7]

It's been obvious since day one that Ado is athletic and you hoped that the game would eventually come to him. That seems to be happening more each game and it could be huge for the postseason.

Ado was much better last season. I have to wonder if the early season injury wasn't entirely healed. Maybe he's just getting 100%

[MarketingBully]

Q is sick

He’s the only guy playing tonight. Everyone else playing like ass. Our rebounding is atrocious. Only way UGA is keeping this closer is they are dominating on the offensive glass.

[RocketDawg]

Daymeon Fishback has HUGE hands.

[RougeDawg]

Whoever got into Q?s ass and sparked the fire he has had the las 2-3 weeks, thank you. He?s playing with a different determination.

[MarketingBully]

Holman is so bad on everything related to defense.

[MarketingBully]

Holman has to get out of the game.

[MarketingBully]

Holman was at the center of that UGA run. He can’t play the rest of the night.

[MarketingBully]

5 points for Holmans man. We need Perry out there.

[RocketDawg]

Lead is down to 7 now. Gotta be careful.

[MarketingBully]

Holman has to get out of the game.

[RougeDawg]

Lead is down to 7 now. Gotta be careful.

Got complacent and played with less defensive energy when we got up big.

[MarketingBully]

How is Holman still out there?

[RougeDawg]

Holman has to get out of the game.

He has gotten lazy the last 8 minutes.

[MarketingBully]

Got complacent and played with less defensive energy when we got up big.

Holman’s man has scored most of the points in this run.

[CadaverDawg]

Holman is not even D1 caliber anymore. The guy sucks, I'm sorry. We'd be better off playing 4 on 5

[tcdog70]

Give the ball to Q

[CadaverDawg]

Perry cannot get in foul trouble because Holman is like putting a walk-on out there. Holman is literally pissing me off with this lazy shit. Not even trying

[Lord McBuckethead]

I would rather Datcher and Feezel get all of Holmans minutes. I would rather watch them get dominated at every aspect of the game than Holman.

[CadaverDawg]

Q can't disappear like this either. He's red hot, give him the ball

[CadaverDawg]

I would rather Datcher and Feezel get all of Holmans minutes. I would rather watch them get dominated at every aspect of the game than Holman.

Yep. I would take air over Holman at this point

[MarketingBully]

Holman shouldn’t play another minute tonight.

[MarketingBully]

Q can't disappear like this either. He's red hot, give him the ball

Carter and Peters aren’t giving him the ball. Here should be the plan. Q should be the PG and every possession has to go through Q. That’s how we win tonight.

[StarkVegasSteve]

At this point Holman doesn't need to play another minute this season. He's been that bad

[msstate7]

Is Q our only guard that knows how to attack a zone?

[CadaverDawg]

Holman shouldn’t play another minute tonight.

Tonight? Try "ever". I'm sick of him. He is the only reason this is close. Give his minutes to Feazell or Datcher or anybody that will put forth an ounce of effort and send that lazy SOB to the house. He's worthless

[CadaverDawg]

At this point Holman doesn't need to play another minute this season. He's been that bad

100% agree

[parabrave]

Wow just turned the game on and checked the stats and how are we have a lead with no help from LP or Holman?

[CadaverDawg]

We're about to screw around and lose to the worst team in the league

[Saltydog]

a no show.

[msstate7]

Really sucks that peters has decided to sit out games the same time at nick

[CadaverDawg]

Gotta close this one out. A loss to UGA could be a killer

[Ari Gold]

a no show.

No leadership ???? Explain

[Big4Dawg]

We're about to screw around and lose to the worst team in the league

This isn't vandy

[tcdog70]

This is where we need a zone

[Lord McBuckethead]

We need someone to step up and demand effort. Someone. Anyone.

[RougeDawg]

Giving up offensive rebounds is why this game is even close. When your opponent has almost as many offensive rebounds as you have on defense you are going to struggle.

[MarketingBully]

We are playing bad. Holman sucked ass and it got the ball rolling to where we are right now. Holman way too many minutes tonight.

[MarketingBully]

What the hell Peters...

[msstate7]

We see firsthand almost every game how effective a zone can be, but we refuse to play it

[Turfdawg67]

No leadership ???? Explain

Pretty much self explanatory I thought.

[MarketingBully]

Peters is dumb right now get it to ****ing Q.

[MarketingBully]

Shot clock going down and Peters doesn’t get it to Q...this is insane.

[MarketingBully]

Nick W....

[RougeDawg]

Horrible finish. Just f*cking horrible.

[Saltydog]

times. That pass was inexcusable. You could see that one coming from a mile away.

[MaroonFlounder]

Did Nick make the trip? I've been at baseball game

[MarketingBully]

No leadership ???? Explain

We’ve played like shit tonight. We deserve criticism.

[msstate7]

Go get the damn ball peters

[Dawg2003]

Did Nick make the trip? I've been at baseball game

No, he's banished.

[MarketingBully]

They’re going to change this call. Replay taking too long.

[Dawgcap]

We?ve played like shit tonight. We deserve criticism.

You criticized 2 people all night

[RocketDawg]

Didn't that Georgia guy triple or quadruple dribble there?

[RougeDawg]

Didn't that Georgia guy triple or quadruple dribble there?

Yea he picked up his dribble twice. Thought I was seeing things becaus it wasn?t called. Then I went back on dvr.

[Mjoelner34]

Didn't that Georgia guy triple or quadruple dribble there?

I saw that too. But hell, that guy from ole miss triple dribbled then walked in our first game about this point in the game and it wasn't called.

[MedDawg]

Bogus foul call on Perry. He was standing still with his arms up and the shooter jumped into him. Huge call with 18 seconds left.

[mparkerfd20]

We gonna lose to this shit team

[msstate7]

That was dangerous. Great catch, Q

[Turfdawg67]

Don't know the score? Just scroll to see if MS7 is posting and at least you'll know we are losing or in trouble of losing.

[RocketDawg]

Can't believe Georgia fouled us there.

[RocketDawg]

Never saw that happen before ... somebody threw a stuffed animal during a free throw That person could have lost the game for them.

[msstate7]

Don't know the score? Just scroll to see if MS7 is posting and at least you'll know we are losing or in trouble of losing.

You're an idiot.

[Liverpooldawg]

Holy smokes. That was unreal.

[parabrave]

Smart miss.

[mparkerfd20]

Hahaha. 17 u Georgia

[MarketingBully]

Never saw that happen before ... somebody threw a stuffed animal during a free throw That person could have lost the game for them.

They did. That did lose them the game.

[msstate7]

Ugly win. Good win

[tcdog70]

Whew, a beat is a beat

[Quaoarsking]

So was that a 1-FT technical?

[MarketingBully]

Played like ass won on the road. We have to play better then this shit or we won’t win on Saturday.

[HoopsDawg]

A win's a win. Especially on the road. We clearly need to work on our zone offense.

[Turfdawg67]

Wow! This team is horrible for ulcers!

[RocketDawg]

Read an article earlier that the secondary market price average ticket price for the Duke/UNC game is over $3200. Game is on at 8 on ESPN.

[HoopsDawg]

No nick on the bench. Obviously hate to see that.

[Political Hack]

At least it was a win. Thankfully that idiot fan gave Q and extra shot so he could miss the last one.

[LC Dawg]

Dude fouled the shit out of Q so I don't know what the fans are pissed about. Except for losing. That will piss you off.

[Ari Gold]

Find a way to win..that’s all that matters..
really need Nick back badly
And everyone sees why tonight

[msudawg1200]

Man that was ugly, but a W is a W especially a road W. This team has to get a killer instinct and step on the other team’s throat while up 17.

[RougeDawg]

Wow! This team is horrible for ulcers!

This game is a prime example of why God allowed man to stumble upon the creation of alcohol.

[MarketingBully]

So was that a 1-FT technical?

Yes, we missed the second of the two free throws on purpose to run out the .5 on the clock.

[Dawg61]

A win is a win. Idc how ugly we played the last 12 minutes. Just happy to survive a tough road game. Peters 0 points again though. He is in an awful slump.

[msstate7]

No nick on the bench. Obviously hate to see that.

Any chance we pull the shirt on Stewart? I'm sure we won't, but I wonder how close to ready he is

[tcdog70]

Holman and Petersdecided to just play like shit. I'd rather have Datcher than Holman

[MarketingBully]

No nick on the bench. Obviously hate to see that.

If we had any help tonight from Peters or Carter, we’d of been fine. Peters has to play better then ass if we want to win without Nick. We did go away from playing defense and getting in the passing lanes to create turnovers which got Georgia back in the game.

[RocketDawg]

I'll bet the student (assuming it was a student) that threw the stuffed animal on the court never sees the inside of that place again until graduation services.

[maroonmania]

Find a way to win..that’s all that matters..
really need Nick back badly
And everyone sees why tonight

With this game its not about the win, its just avoiding a horrible loss which thank goodness we did.

[Liverpooldawg]

We usually lose games with some sort of bs like that. It's nice to win one for a change. I wouldn't want to be the dumb ass that threw that thing on the court.

[MarketingBully]

A win is a win. Idc how ugly we played the last 12 minutes. Just happy to survive a tough road game. Peters 0 points again though. He is in an awful slump.

Georgia is absolutely horrible. There’s a reason they’ve only won one game in conference. We have to have Peters play 1000x better then he is. He’s playing horrifyingly bad right now.

[RocketDawg]

Yes, we missed the second of the two free throws on purpose to run out the .5 on the clock.

Q basically just got to shoot the free-throw over again after he missed it allegedly because of the stuffed animal. That's fair, but I don't ever think I've seen a one-shot technical before.

[Liverpooldawg]

I'll bet the student (assuming it was a student) that threw the stuffed animal on the court never sees the inside of that place again until graduation services.

I don't think that came from the student section. By the angle it was near mid court.

[Turfdawg67]

This game is a prime example of why God allowed man to stumble upon the creation of alcohol.

Yes, but he actually made it easier and gave us a ready-to-use plant... but I digress.

[HoopsDawg]

Any chance we pull the shirt on Stewart? I'm sure we won't, but I wonder how close to ready he is

no chance.

[Dawgcap]

I heard today that this is the first time since 2004 we have won 3 Road SEC games in a row.

[Turfdawg67]

Q basically just got to shoot the free-throw over again after he missed it allegedly because of the stuffed animal. That's fair, but I don't ever think I've seen a one-shot technical before.

Didn't he get fouled shooting a three?? Missed one, made one and missed one on purpose... where's the extra shot?

[msstate7]

I heard today that this is the first time since 2004 we have won 3 Road SEC games in a row.

Nice stat, and quite sad if true

[Ari Gold]

Holman and Petersdecided to just play like shit. I'd rather have Datcher than Holman

If Datcher hasn?t played all year there is a reason. My guess he is redshirting and transferring

[RougeDawg]

Any chance we pull the shirt on Stewart? I'm sure we won't, but I wonder how close to ready he is

Can?t risk it at this point. If Howland is going to waste minutes playing Holman over Woodard, we are not going very far in post season. Don?t risk it.

[HoopsDawg]

Find a way to win..that?s all that matters..
really need Nick back badly
And everyone sees why tonight

Nick is probably our 3rd best player. I would rate our top 3:

1. Q
2. Reggie
3. Nick

[RougeDawg]

We usually lose games with some sort of bs like that. It's nice to win one for a change. I wouldn't want to be the dumb ass that threw that thing on the court.

Was thinking this myself. I?ve seen us lose so many games like this my mind was slipping into mentally accepting another notch on the belt. Mississippi State teams never make winning easy.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Datcher has played. Early in the season for like 5 minutes.

[msu15]

I hate watching this team play

[Dawgcap]

We are an amazingly talented team who has no identity. The only remotely consistent player has been Q and even he has his stretches. This is the type team that can shock many nationally by a Sweet 16 run or better or settle in to the type heartbreak team we expect to see happen. I can’t remember seeing a team with this many inconsistencies game to game.

[Dawg61]

Georgia is absolutely horrible. There?s a reason they?ve only won one game in conference. We have to have Peters play 1000x better then he is. He?s playing horrifyingly bad right now.

I thought we looked totally gassed the last 12 minutes. We aren't used to a 7 man rotation especially against a big team like UGA. Right now is when we're missing Eli and Stapleton.

[RougeDawg]

We are an amazingly talented team who has no identity. The only remotely consistent player has been Q and even he has his stretches. This is the type team that can shock many nationally by a Sweet 16 run or better or settle in to the type heartbreak team we expect to see happen. I can?t remember seeing a team with this many inconsistencies game to game.

I?ll one up you. If this team has a hot streak from Lamar and Q at the same time, a final four run is possible. We have the depth down low to compete. We just need more scoring from our smaller guys.

[msstate7]

We've essentially had to play without both our starting guards the last 2 games. Peters has to step the frick up. Here's his last 2 lines...
Vs ark: 5 pts 3 assists 1 reb
Vs Georgia: 0 pts 2 assists 1 reb

Carter the last 2:
Vs ark: 18 pts. 4 assists 3 reb
Vs Georgia: 11 pts 4 assists 3 reb

Carter is stepping up to replace some of nick's production. Peters is killing us.

[Dawgcap]

I?ll one up you. If this team has a hot streak from Lamar and Q at the same time, a final four run is possible. We have the depth down low to compete. We just need more scoring from our smaller guys.

I think Elite 8 and kinda where I was going but I won’t be totally shocked if we don’t make the tournament. We are more than talented but something about this team scares me. Almost like we have some fragile egos that won’t allow them to go out and fight as a team. Everything is there but we are lacking a chemistry. If we find it we can be nasty. If not... we’ll we know that situation

[parabrave]

Coach Howland talking about the travel problems with the plane and hotels in the postgame interview. Who is running the travel office and what type of Aircraft are they chartering, a 1942 DC3 with the Cleveland Indians decal on it.

[Dawg61]

Meanwhile Tookie Brown is averaging 17.5 points and 5.1 assists a game. He had a 28 point 10 assist game two weeks ago. Not to throw salt in the PG wound or anything.**

[RougeDawg]

I think Elite 8 and kinda where I was going but I won?t be totally shocked if we don?t make the tournament. We are more than talented but something about this team scares me. Almost like we have some fragile egos that won?t allow them to go out and fight as a team. Everything is there but we are lacking a chemistry. If we find it we can be nasty. If not... we?ll we know that situation

No, I got your point. We play to our competition even when we don?t have great games. If we could out together 3-4 complete games with more than one guy getting hot offensively, we can beat anyone.

[Dawgcap]

Coach Howland talking about the travel problems with the plane and hotels in the postgame interview. Who is running the travel office and what type of Aircraft are they chartering, a 1942 DC3 with the Cleveland Indians decal on it.

That?s bullshit. Wasn?t a problem when we were up 17.

[Dawgcap]

We have no room for error cause Tennessee and Auburn on the road are tough gets

[Ari Gold]

That?s bullshit. Wasn?t a problem when we were up 17.

What ??

[chef dixon]

I think Elite 8 and kinda where I was going but I won’t be totally shocked if we don’t make the tournament. We are more than talented but something about this team scares me. Almost like we have some fragile egos that won’t allow them to go out and fight as a team. Everything is there but we are lacking a chemistry. If we find it we can be nasty. If not... we’ll we know that situation

I agree about our play, but we win Saturday we are all but a lock for the dance.

[Ari Gold]

We have no room for error cause Tennessee and Auburn on the road are tough gets

If we win our home games that’s 10-8
Anything else is gravy..

[Dawgcap]

What ??

Just saying the travel issues didn’t affect the team. Hard to make an excuse, if he was, when we led by 17.

[Dawgcap]

If we win our home games that’s 10-8
Anything else is gravy..

We need some gravy!! Love 11-7. But we can’t slip up at home

[MarketingBully]

If we win our home games that’s 10-8
Anything else is gravy..

We should. I’d be elated with a 10-8 record after the start we had. We have to have Peters start playing better. Since Nick has been suspended, Peters has also disappeared.

[Turfdawg67]

That?s bullshit. Wasn?t a problem when we were up 17.

Just like man-to-man wasn't a problem when we played it up to a 17 pt lead... let that lead falter and it's "WHY don't we play zone!"

[shannondawg]

Travel delays not hard on 18-24 olds, but hard on 50+ something coaches. Not a coach but speaking from experience.

[Dawgcap]

Travel delays not hard on 18-24 olds, but hard on 50+ something coaches. Not a coach but speaking from experience.

That was my point. I’d struggle as a 55 year old but as a 20 year old it wouldn’t affect me

[parabrave]

The plane wasn't the only problem, got kicked out of the hotel early because of reservation screw ups and why they flew into Columbia SC and then had to take a 3 hr bus ride to Athens is just screwed up when Anderson or GSP is only 45 mins away. Heck for that matter Starkville is only 3 1/2 hours from Athens.

[Ari Gold]

Just saying the travel issues didn’t affect the team. Hard to make an excuse, if he was, when we led by 17.

It’s not like we played great in the first half .. we scored 11 points the last 2 minutes or so to get the 11 point lead
Why does it matter if he said that.. my guess is it did have some effect on our play..

[HoopsDawg]

It's criminal that Woodard only played 18 minutes. Holman played 16. If Howland would give 8 of those Holman minutes to Woodard it wouldn't have been close. Or take 8 from Peters and let Q run the point.

[Ari Gold]

Also I get it Holman hasn’t t played well and the effort at times isn’t there.
But he is going to get minutes , he has to get minutes . We have been very lucky last few games that Ado and Perry haven’t gotten in deep foul trouble . But it’s coming at some point
And when he plays well he really helps us
And without Nick Going forward how ever long that is he is going to have to keep giving us more minutes
So y’all can bitch and complain all ya want...

[CadaverDawg]

I'm really pumped we found a way to win, that would have been a really bad loss. It's frustrating to see how this late in the season we still have these long stretches of poor play where teams like Georgia can erase a 17 point lead and almost beat us. We should be a well oiled machine by late February, and at times we are, but the inconsistency is so frustrating and is the reason why it's so hard to get too high on this bunch. They could upset UK or lose to the sisters of the poor on a given night. In my opinion, you win on the road by rebounding and playing great defense....we didn't rebound tonight and it damn near got us beat via second chance points. We have got to get Perry and Ado to box out, and since we have no choice but to play the corpse of Aric Holman, someone has to light a fire under his ass and at least get him to defend and rebound...that guy can singlehandedly end our season in March if he doesn't wake the hell up and stop being so lazy. That being said, if...and that's a huge IF....Holman starts attending our games at all from an effort standpoint, we have the talent to pull an upset or two in the dance. But who the hell knows what team we'll get in March. Going to be a wild finish more than likely, regardless of what happens

[CadaverDawg]

It's criminal that Woodard only played 18 minutes. Holman played 16. If Howland would give 8 of those Holman minutes to Woodard it wouldn't have been close. Or take 8 from Peters and let Q run the point.

I agree. I don't Understand the Holman minutes being anywhere near Woodard's. It makes no sense

[Dawg61]

I'm not a big fan of Q at the point. He's a phenomenal scorer but he makes lazy passes all the time. He threw away two balls under the 5 minute mark tonight. Q is our best offensive player he's just not our best PG. Probably 4th best at that position behind Peters, Nick, Carter.

[RocketDawg]

I don't know when the team flew to Athens, but travel delays this time very well could have been due to weather. The line of storms that came through today were pretty fierce, and the line is still going through Atlanta and Athens now.

[HoopsDawg]

I agree. I don't Understand the Holman minutes being anywhere near Woodard's. It makes no sense

Woodard still managed to lead us in rebounds despite significantly less minutes than our 5 starters.

[CadaverDawg]

Woodard still managed to lead us in rebounds despite significantly less minutes than our 5 starters.

Meanwhile Aric blocked out nobody all night. So frustrating.

[Ari Gold]

Holman played well at Arky. He didn’t tonight
No one really did tonight except Q .. Perry and Ado both played well
I’m not as worried about the minutes Holman gets, More concerning is Lamar.. 5 points and 5 dimes his last 2 games and we actually won both .. also his body language tonight was terrible .
He needs to get right and get right quick

[HoopsDawg]

I'm not a big fan of Q at the point. He's a phenomenal scorer but he makes lazy passes all the time. He threw away two balls under the 5 minute mark tonight. Q is our best offensive player he's just not our best PG. Probably 4th best at that position behind Peters, Nick, Carter.

It's not so much him running the point as it is getting him the ball up top in the half court. Peters played 30 minutes tonight. I'm not so sure he deserved it.

Here's a combo I would love to see much more of: Carter, Q, Woodard, Perry and Ado. Just didn't see it at all tonight.

[Ari Gold]

I'm not a big fan of Q at the point. He's a phenomenal scorer but he makes lazy passes all the time. He threw away two balls under the 5 minute mark tonight. Q is our best offensive player he's just not our best PG. Probably 4th best at that position behind Peters, Nick, Carter.


It’s not so much Q at the point
It’s getting the ball in his hands at the point to use the high ball screens

[Dawgcap]

It?s not like we played great in the first half .. we scored 11 points the last 2 minutes or so to get the 11 point lead
Why does it matter if he said that.. my guess is it did have some effect on our play..

I wasn?t dogging him as a coach but at the same time don?t blame a situation like travel on poor shooting and not blocking out. We won a game that we should of won big. Didn?t play great but I think travel wasn?t the issue no more than being at home and having lapses We have a talented team who don?t play together at times. Call it like it is. So travel and hotels affected everyone but Q? Look it may have made a difference but I don?t think a coach should make excuses for players like this. Then they have reasons instead of holding themselves accountable.

[mstatefan91]

Exactly. Datcher is better and he doesn?t set moving screens and makes freethrows as well.

I know this was during the flow of the game but I've seen Datcher set many a moving screen since he's been here. But he has not done anything this season since the early non-con games. I have been surprised that 22 gets those minutes instead... though he gets very few as well.

[mstatefan91]

I wasn?t dogging him as a coach but at the same time don?t blame a situation like travel on poor shooting and not blocking out. We won a game that we should of won big. Didn?t play great but I think travel wasn?t the issue no more than being at home and having lapses We have a talented team who don?t play together at times. Call it like it is. So travel and hotels affected everyone but Q? Look it may have made a difference but I don?t think a coach should make excuses for players like this. Then they have reasons instead of holding themselves accountable.

I think Howland was just pleased that we won the game and was talking in general.. not necessarily making excuses.. but keep on keeping on

[RougeDawg]

I don't know when the team flew to Athens, but travel delays this time very well could have been due to weather. The line of storms that came through today were pretty fierce, and the line is still going through Atlanta and Athens now.

Our asshat excuse of the GTR airport does not help matters.

Isn?t this the 2nd time in a couple months we have had travel royally f*cked up? Bowl game was a disaster of travel.

From Bracky Fife allowing what he is and has, to our 1980?s pre internet travel agent, we have no recourse for those who make fun of our athletic department.

[Dawg61]

Carter, Q, Woodard, Perry and Ado. Just didn't see it at all tonight.

That's the exact combo that went on a 23-1 run vs Arkansas and totally kicked their ass. Once again we see Howland is either too stubborn to go to it again, too loyal to certain players (most likely this one) or he's too blind to recognize it. I really like Howland but this shit drives me crazy with him. How can he not try that same 5 lineup for at least a couple minutes tonight after it was so effective vs Arkansas??

[Dawg61]

Our asshat excuse of the GTR airport does not help matters.

Not much anyone can do about this one unless you've got an extra $10 billion burning in your pockets to spend on a state of the art airport. Good luck getting serious airlines to commit a fleet of planes to a greater metro area of 100k people though.

[mstatefan91]

That's the exact combo that went on a 23-1 run vs Arkansas and totally kicked their ass. Once again we see Howland is either too stubborn to go to it again, too loyal to certain players (most likely this one) or he's too blind to recognize it. I really like Howland but this shit drives me crazy with him. How can he not try that same 5 lineup for at least a couple minutes tonight after it was so effective vs Arkansas??

Howland is a match up coach. He will pick the players that he thinks matches up best with the other team's lineups regardless of how some of those players have played lately. Right or wrong. That's what he does..

[mstatefan91]

Our asshat excuse of the GTR airport does not help matters.

Isn?t this the 2nd time in a couple months we have had travel royally f*cked up? Bowl game was a disaster of travel.

From Bracky Fife allowing what he is and has, to our 1980?s pre internet travel agent, we have no recourse for those who make fun of our athletic department.
Shit not that long.. Happened to the women going to TAMU.. they took care of business tho

[Dawgcap]

I think Howland was just pleased that we won the game and was talking in general.. not necessarily making excuses.. but keep on keeping on

If that’s the case I was out of line. I just meant if he was using that as an excuse I don’t agree.

[Ari Gold]

I think Howland was just pleased that we won the game and was talking in general.. not necessarily making excuses.. but keep on keeping on

Oh don’t worry.. they will find something else . I’m just glad we have finally moved passed him not taking off his jacket bitching...

[Dawgcap]

Oh don’t worry.. they will find something else . I’m just glad we have finally moved passed him not taking off his jacket bitching...

Dude I have been on your side about bitching but I took it that he was making excuses for lackadaisical play at times.

[Dawg61]

Oh don’t worry.. they will find something else . I’m just glad we have finally moved passed him not taking off his jacket bitching...

Howland was all over the refs to get that Tech called at the end of the game. He's shown a lot more fire/intensity than he did his first year here when I think he was still walking on egg shells a little bit from getting fired by UCLA. His in-game demeanor no longer bothers me because I think he's more intense/into the games than he was the first season here.

[Dawg61]

Howland is a match up coach. He will pick the players that he thinks matches up best with the other team's lineups regardless of how some of those players have played lately. Right or wrong. That's what he does..

I'm sure this is what he'd say too but I'm not sure I believe it because he woulda started the same 5 vs any team tonight regardless of matchups.

[mstatefan91]

I'm sure this is what he'd say too but I'm not sure I believe it because he woulda started the same 5 vs any team tonight regardless of matchups.

But there is absolutely no way for you to know that....

[HoopsDawg]

But there is absolutely no way for you to know that....

I guess I will just have to root for foul trouble again to get our best 5 on the court.

[mstatefan91]

I guess I will just have to root for foul trouble again to get our best 5 on the court.

You might

[Dawg61]

But there is absolutely no way for you to know that....

There is if you believe in your sixth sense

[Liverpooldawg]

Not much anyone can do about this one unless you've got an extra $10 billion burning in your pockets to spend on a state of the art airport. Good luck getting serious airlines to commit a fleet of planes to a greater metro area of 100k people though.

GTR can handle pretty much any aircraft. Heck they fly 747s into the boneyard at Tupelo and it's runway is shorter. GTR will never have anything but regional jets for scheduled commercial service (population is the reason) but the airport is no excuse for charter flights. Unlike Tupelo, GTR's service is not subsidized.

[shannondawg]

I kinda confused , what did the the GTR airport have to do with the delay? There certainly is not enough traffic in and out to do that. Wouldn't it be a junk ass piece of chartered airplane that did it, maybe the same one that the ladies used to Aggie Land?

[tcdog70]

Just like man-to-man wasn't a problem when we played it up to a 17 pt lead... let that lead falter and it's "WHY don't we play zone!"

The reason we were up 17 was that Q was on fire. Ga was throwing up 3s. They made an adjustment to go into the paint, by attacking Holman and they clamped down on Q by running a zone and not giving Him a good look when he drove inside. A zone worked for them--stupid to think it wouldn't help us some of the time--like when Holman plays. Any team we play knows Holman can't guard so they attack Him.

[Dawg61]

The reason we were up 17 was that Q was on fire. Ga was throwing up 3s. They made an adjustment to go into the paint, by attacking Holman and they clamped down on Q by running a zone and not giving Him a good look when he drove inside. A zone worked for them--stupid to think it wouldn't help us some of the time--like when Holman plays. Any team we play knows Holman can't guard so they attack Him.

Holman would probably be hell on teams if we implemented the Syracuse zone with him at the free throw line. His long arms are bound to disrupt something.

[CadaverDawg]

Holman would probably be hell on teams if we implemented the Syracuse zone with him at the free throw line. His long arms are bound to disrupt something.

If he'd be willing to hold them out