Bama game

[parabrave]

well so far we got the Seth Curry version of LP tonight. Gonna need him to remain this hot.

[msstate7]

Missed dunk damn

[RocketDawg]

Let's start a real one. MSU up 13-7 and playing with a little intensity to start. Now 15-7.

[RocketDawg]

Mods -- merge into the other "Bama Game" thread if you will. I think we sorta simul-posted.

[KOdawg1]

Did Holman just play defense?

[HoopsDawg]

Like our rotation so far.

[msstate7]

Atta boy, peters

[msstate7]

They are treating Woodard rough in this game so far

[HoopsDawg]

They are treating Woodard rough in this game so far

for real. he got fouled earlier on that one handed rebound but no call.

[BeardoMSU]

Guys, Woodard is going to be a beast. He's got a huge 17'n ceiling.

[Dawgcap]

We are good when we are engaged as a team! Great effort

[KOdawg1]

Good Peters showed up tonight

[RocketDawg]

Guys, Woodard is going to be a beast. He's got a huge 17'n ceiling.

I don't see how they live being slammed to the floor like that. Must be nice to be young.

[HoopsDawg]

I don't get the Holman sub in right here.

[HoopsDawg]

This is a new 5.

[HoopsDawg]

This is a new 5.

carter and q in the backcourt. not sure about this.

[Cloak]

I don't get the Holman sub in right here.

Man he really looks lost at times

[Dawgcap]

Shit we are playing with energy. Gotta rest guys

[HoopsDawg]

carter and q in the backcourt. not sure about this.

come on howland. bring in peters for Holman.

[msstate7]

carter and q in the backcourt. not sure about this.

Trying to figure out a way to get Woodard more mins?

[MarketingBully]

Like the way we are playing but need to settle down a bit and run offense. Wish the refs would call fouls down low on Bama. Some of those layups we missed were because we were fouled.

[parabrave]

Ha refs took a point away from the tide. We needed this crew last sat.

[Dawgcap]

come on howland. bring in peters for Holman.

Seriously, Homan playing hard. Like it or not if Homan plays D like he has so far and gets his shot back we are nasty. He’s sucked but he’s still a talent and he seems to have learned by being on the bench. Everyone they score ain’t his fault

[KOdawg1]

For once in his life, can Ado get an and one? All you have to do is bump the guy and he misses the shot.

[MarketingBully]

Seriously, Homan playing hard. Like it or not if Homan plays D like he has so far and gets his shot back we are nasty. He’s sucked but he’s still a talent and he seems to have learned by being on the bench. Everyone they score ain’t his fault

Needs his 3 point shot back.

[Dawgcap]

Needs his 3 point shot back.

Amen! He has brought the effort back on D. He has lost confidence but anyone who thinks he can’t be a difference maker with this d effort and finally finishing is crazy. He’s got to play. We need him

[MarketingBully]

Holman is so bad blocking out. That second chance 3 all on Holman.

[HoopsDawg]

Holman is so bad blocking out. That second chance 3 all on Holman.

He's still playing too many minutes. But we are playing hard on D and Lamar is making shots.

[MarketingBully]

Amen! He has brought the effort back on D. He has lost confidence but anyone who thinks he can’t be a difference maker with this d effort and finally finishing is crazy. He’s got to play. We need him

He plays with effort sometimes and that gives Howland a false sense of security with him. He played hard in the first half against LSU too but allowed his laziness to creep back in and they killed us on the offensive glass. He completely allowed that second chance 3 and that really limits our ability to stretch leads and blow out teams. Holman needs to sit the rest of this half imo.

[msstate7]

We just don't seem to have that extra gear to bury a team

[Dawgcap]

He plays with effort sometimes and that gives Howland a false sense of security with him. He played hard in the first half against LSU too but allowed his laziness to creep back in and they killed us on the offensive glass. He completely allowed that second chance 3 and that really limits our ability to stretch leads and blow out teams. Holman needs to sit the rest of this half imo.

Fine go with the LSU game but shutting on 1 guy is ridiculous. Did you question Woodard or Ado tonight? Nope. Cause it doesn’t fit your agenda. Watch everyone when you wanna bitch

[Dawgcap]

We just don't seem to have that extra gear to bury a team

We ain’t winning by 30. They hate losing too. Damn

[HoopsDawg]

We just don't seem to have that extra gear to bury a team

howland is subbing like it's a hockey game.

[Dawgcap]

howland is subbing like it's a hockey game.

We are playing with energy. Guys need rest. We playing 8 guys

[RougeDawg]

Perry playing like a grown man.

[msstate7]

Alabama length has bothered Woodard this first half

[HoopsDawg]

Nice Ado. He has been more aggressive on the O.

[LC Dawg]

Damn! Check out Ado's offensive moves.

[HoopsDawg]

excellent half. especially with nick only playing 8 minutes due to 2 fouls. And Q with 2 fouls.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Ado actually becomes a viable option on offense when Perry is on the floor.

[RocketDawg]

Louisville up by 9 over Duke at the half.

[parabrave]

Wow dam good 1st half. 8 steals in the 1st half resulting in 16 points. Now is usually when Q gets going so the 2nd half should be good.

[HoopsDawg]

Alabama length has bothered Woodard this first half

yep, he struggled finishing but still played good defense and grabbed 5 boards.

[MarketingBully]

Great first half. Thought we played really well. Holman is even working hard. Ado is showing some moves. He’s doing really well. Need to keep it up in the second.

[Dawgcap]

Give me the Holman negative stats tonight

[MarketingBully]

Ado actually becomes a viable option on offense when Perry is on the floor.

He’s actually wanting the ball and showing some great moves against a good defender. If he finds his offensive game, we could just hit another dimension.

[MarketingBully]

Give me the Holman negative stats tonight

He’s playing with effort but I still don’t think he needs to play down the stretch.

[HoopsDawg]

Give me the Holman negative stats tonight

Well he scored 0 points. had a turnover and only got 2 rebounds. He had a couple of breakdowns on defense, but he played with more energy and didn't kill us. 10 minutes is too many, but we had a couple of guys in foul trouble.

[Dawgcap]

Louisville up by 9 over Duke at the half.

Duke player said Louisville could wear black to their own funeral. Not very smart. Never piss off an opponent who might have thought they didn’t have a chance.

[MarketingBully]

Alabama length has bothered Woodard this first half

Bothered him? They are fouling the **** out of him.

[Dawgcap]

Well he scored 0 points. had a turnover and only got 2 rebounds. He had a couple of breakdowns on defense, but he played with more energy and didn't kill us. 10 minutes is too many, but we had a couple of guys in foul trouble.

Ha. Glad you ain’t coaching us.

[HoopsDawg]

Ha. Glad you ain?t coaching us.

If I was, we'd be 20-3.

[LC Dawg]

That was a great half and it was because of our defense. We shot it well except for Woodard. Gotta keep it going in the 2nd half.

[MarketingBully]

Ha. Glad you ain’t coaching us.

He gave us effort and if he can do that for 15 minutes we will be a better team for it. Howland just has to yank him the minute he’s not hustling imo so Holman knows he can’t take possessions off. Holman hurt us against LSU last week because down the stretch he didn’t do shit but he played a great first half. Had we just played him 15 minutes rather then 27 we more then likely win that game. It’s not rocket science. You can tell when Holman doesn’t give effort because the other team either gets an easy basket or easy put back.

[HoopsDawg]

He gave us effort and if he can do that for 15 minutes we will be a better team for it. Howland just has to yank him the minute he’s not hustling imo so Holman knows he can’t take possessions off. Holman hurt us against LSU last week because down the stretch he didn’t do shit but he played a great first half. Had we just played him 15 minutes rather then 27 we more then likely win that game. It’s not rocket science. You can tell when Holman doesn’t give effort because the other team either gets an easy basket or easy put back.

I agree for the most part, but it's not just effort with Holman. Some guys just aren't good defensive players.

[MarketingBully]

That was a great half and it was because of our defense. We shot it well except for Woodard. Gotta keep it going in the 2nd half.

Yep, we outrebounded them 18-11 and I think they only got 2 or 3 offensive rebounds.

[HoopsDawg]

can't imagine how good we can be if Ado plays like this every game.

[HoopsDawg]

come on ref. clear flop. have a brain.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Maybe the wrong place to ask but what are our chances of making the tournament? If we win this how much does it help us?

Are we going to need to win some in the conf tourney to make it or will we be safe

[Bdawg]

come on ref. clear flop. have a brain.

Just terrible

[HoopsDawg]

give howland credit, Holman is now our 3rd man off the bench and 8th in the rotation. It's about 4 weeks too late, but better late than never.

[Dawgcap]

I agree for the most part, but it's not just effort with Holman. Some guys just aren't good defensive players.

All I’m gonna say is a couple of y’all agree with the party line and pile on 1 player. You shit on his offense but guess what he had a good half of D. He has confidence issues but you can say what you want we need Holman to be great and we need him on both ends. He can’t improve if you sit him when he improved on D tonight. Needs 8 - 10 minutes a half

[HoopsDawg]

Maybe the wrong place to ask but what are our chances of making the tournament? If we win this how much does it help us?

Are we going to need to win some in the conf tourney to make it or will we be safe

We are making the tournament as long as we win this game. At Arky is big too.

[MarketingBully]

This team is so ****ing frustrating. This should be a 20+ point game but Alabama has a chance to cut it to 12. The way we are playing right now is why we can’t blow teams out.

[mparkerfd20]

I'd pull Carter for that stupid ass shot

[HoopsDawg]

All I’m gonna say is a couple of y’all agree with the party line and pile on 1 player. You shit on his offense but guess what he had a good half of D. He has confidence issues but you can say what you want we need Holman to be great and we need him on both ends. He can’t improve if you sit him when he improved on D tonight. Needs 8 - 10 minutes a half

you need to understand any criticism of Holman is indirect. We are mainly blaming Howland for starting him too long and then after benching him, playing him too much. Holman definitely has a role to play and that role is 8-10 minutes per game in the frontcourt rotation.

[Bdawg]

All I’m gonna say is a couple of y’all agree with the party line and pile on 1 player. You shit on his offense but guess what he had a good half of D. He has confidence issues but you can say what you want we need Holman to be great and we need him on both ends. He can’t improve if you sit him when he improved on D tonight. Needs 8 - 10 minutes a half

All depends on which Holman shows up. Sure we want him to be good and play good D, but when you don't hustle, you hit the pine. If he keeps playing like tonight he can earn some minutes.

[Bdawg]

It's amazing that crap that happens when we take a bad shot.

[Dawgcap]

This team is so ****ing frustrating. This should be a 20+ point game but Alabama has a chance to cut it to 12. The way we are playing right now is why we can’t blow teams out.

That’s just dumb

[Turfdawg67]

Set offense 2nd half... 2-3 passes and then chunk up a 3.

[MarketingBully]

That’s just dumb

How’s it dumb? It’s the truth. We should be blowing out Alabama.

[Bdawg]

I will say our defensive intensity is the best I've seen this year.

[Turfdawg67]

That’s just dumb

No, he's correct. Should be blowing them out, but suddenly, again, we've resorted to AAU ball. Luckily we've gotten some t.o.s and some easy layups

[Turfdawg67]

How do we MISS so many layups??? Freakin' weird

[Dawgcap]

And why is that? They a shit team? Our d is perfect? They miss a shot be don’t? We are playing well but damn we ain’t winning by 20 because they are gonna battle like we did against Kentucky. Funny we should of won against Kentucky if we play perfect but we expect Alabama to lay down. So yeah I say that’s dumb

[HoopsDawg]

random thought, I wish Nick was a better 3 point shooter.

[MarketingBully]

Smart taking both Q and Peters out there immediately a 5-0 run.

[Dawgcap]

you need to understand any criticism of Holman is indirect. We are mainly blaming Howland for starting him too long and then after benching him, playing him too much. Holman definitely has a role to play and that role is 8-10 minutes per game in the frontcourt rotation.

Sorry yours has been direct. And all I?m saying is if he gives effort like tonight run him out there and let him work on D. We may be surprised by the O

[MarketingBully]

And why is that? They a shit team? Our d is perfect? They miss a shot be don’t? We are playing well but damn we ain’t winning by 20 because they are gonna battle like we did against Kentucky. Funny we should of won against Kentucky if we play perfect but we expect Alabama to lay down. So yeah I say that’s dumb

Our play had more to do with us then Alabama.

[msstate7]

Wasn't there some mocks with nick weatherspoon on it? I don't see him as an nba player. Too short for a 2 and not good enough with the ball for a 1. I think he's a 4-year very good college player for us

[HoopsDawg]

Sorry yours has been direct. And all I?m saying is if he gives effort like tonight run him out there and let him work on D. We may be surprised by the O

0 points in 13 minutes.

[HoopsDawg]

Wasn't there some mocks with nick weatherspoon on it? I don't see him as an nba player. Too short for a 2 and not good enough with the ball for a 1. I think he's a 4-year very good college player for us

agree. hopefully he runs the point for us the next 2 years if Lamar goes pro.

[Dawgcap]

No, he's correct. Should be blowing them out, but suddenly, again, we've resorted to AAU ball. Luckily we've gotten some t.o.s and some easy layups

That’s what Kentucky said. These teams have players. Runs happen. Battle through it. Take a W

[Bdawg]

Damn Peters. Make the layup!!! That one was hardly contested

[Dawgcap]

0 points in 13 minutes.

But you bitched about his defensive effort.

[MaroonFlounder]

Missed layups. Constantly. Bama will come back to win this.

[Turfdawg67]

And why is that? They a shit team? Our d is perfect? They miss a shot be don’t? We are playing well but damn we ain’t winning by 20 because they are gonna battle like we did against Kentucky. Funny we should of won against Kentucky if we play perfect but we expect Alabama to lay down. So yeah I say that’s dumb

No they aren't a shit team, but we've dominated them. They are chunking up desparate 3's and making them... we are bricking up 3's when we shouldn't!! Run clock and get the layup or foul!!

[HoopsDawg]

36 of our 62 points have come off of turnovers or 2nd chances. we aren't as good as we need to be in our halfcourt offense.

[HoopsDawg]

But you bitched about his defensive effort.

dude I haven't complained about his effort once in this entire thread. I can't reply to you anymore. Just not worth it.

[RougeDawg]

Here comes the crumble

[HoopsDawg]

Damn Q. Keep playing at a high level please

[Dawgcap]

How’s it dumb? It’s the truth. We should be blowing out Alabama.

So Alabama should quit playing? Like we should have against Kentucky. So if we miss a few they shouldn’t go on a run? Basketball is a game of runs. Fight through the runs but it’s dumb to say they aren’t talented enough to score when we dont

[KOdawg1]

Q may be the smoothest player with the basketball I've ever seen. It's just like he glides across the floor

[Turfdawg67]

Our play had more to do with us then Alabama.

Yepper yepper! Should be killin this team! Keep it a 9-13 pt lead... please!! For my ulcer, please!!

[Bothrops]

Pretty. Our effort level has definitely been better the last 3 games

[MarketingBully]

That’s what I’m talking about 15 point lead.

[msstate7]

Wow, almost 34 mins in and hall of Bama doesn't have a slam. That's very impressive

[Dawgcap]

dude I haven't complained about his effort once in this entire thread. I can't reply to you anymore. Just not worth it.

Sorry I stand corrected. I apologize

[Bothrops]

Q may be the smoothest player with the basketball I've ever seen. It's just like he glides across the floor

Yeah I don't know how anybody can move that quick while dribbling a basketball.

[Turfdawg67]

OMG... Guard somebody!!

[MarketingBully]

We just have brain fart moments that keep us from being an elite team.

[RougeDawg]

Pretty. Our effort level has definitely been better the last 3 games

Every game Perry has gotten significant minutes we have played better and with much more effort.

[MarketingBully]

This shouldn’t be a 10 point game. We go from a possible 15 point lead and Peters has a dumb ass turnover and Bama gets a 3. Five point swing. Great effort to get out to the lead but we just brain fart our way into keeping games close that shouldn’t be. This should be a 20+ rout.

[Turfdawg67]

Q and Peters don't communicate... at all. I wish one (either) was back next year w/out the other. Two f*ckin' Alpha Dogs = No Alpha Dog.

[HoopsDawg]

We just have brain fart moments that keep us from being an elite team.

If Lamar could finish we would be up 20.

[HoopsDawg]

Our defense has been excellent tonight. best of the year by far.

[dawgday166]

Should be up by 25 at this point.

[RocketDawg]

Time for the Stansbury Stall? **

[MarketingBully]

That’s the way to ****ing finish!!!! Up 16!

[Bdawg]

Game over!!! Very nice job tonight.

[Bdawg]

If Lamar could finish we would be up 20.

This is true

[msstate7]

Our defense has been excellent tonight. best of the year by far.

It's a carry over from the 2nd half of Kentucky game. I felt really good about this team after we seem to put it together Saturday after the break. Saturday night is a tough one though... gotta win

[MarketingBully]

Our best 5 to finish the game too:

Peters
Q
Nick
Woodard
Perry

[msstate7]

Outstanding dawgs. Good job howland

[RocketDawg]

19 point win. That's pretty much a blowout. They played a complete game tonight. Very well done.

[MarketingBully]

Outstanding dawgs. Good job howland

Yep we needed this blow out badly.

[Percho]

I like it. We up 19 ya'll up the ante.

[Dawgcap]

To all of y?all I admit even though I thought Holman played better in the first half. I don?t think he played much in 2nd and we were nasty. My only argument is don?t panic it?s still the SEC we ain?t gonna win many by 30. Love the effort tonight. I just go opposite the pessimist seems to balance things out. You look negative I look positive but it?s a lot better in a win

[Dawgcap]

Yep we needed this blow out badly.

Next 4 are huge

[LC Dawg]

Very nice. This team can beat a lot of teams playing like this. If we can keep playing good defense we can make some noise to finish the season.

[KOdawg1]

Ado freaking came to play tonight. If he gives us anything offensively, we're tough to beat. Everyone came to play tonight. Good win. Got to keep it rolling though

[HoopsDawg]

To all of y?all I admit even though I thought Holman played better in the first half. I don?t think he played much in 2nd and we were nasty. My only argument is don?t panic it?s still the SEC we ain?t gonna win many by 30. Love the effort tonight. I just go opposite the pessimist seems to balance things out. You look negative I look positive but it?s a lot better in a win

good for you to admit you were wrong. Holman played 3 minutes in the 2nd half. Don't have to try to be optimistic. Just call it like you see it.

[parabrave]

Biggest stat of the night 15 steals and 28 pts scored off of them.

[HoopsDawg]

Very nice. This team can beat a lot of teams playing like this. If we can keep playing good defense we can make some noise to finish the season.

absolutely. I think we can finish the regular season on a 6-2 run.

[Percho]

I think Howland is beginning to rub off on this team. Just a little.

[Turfdawg67]

I think Howland is beginning to rub off on this team. Just a little.

Huh?!? Old, soft and a shell of his former self? *(only a quarter of a sarcastric)

[Dawgcap]

good for you to admit you were wrong. Holman played 3 minutes in the 2nd half. Don't have to try to be optimistic. Just call it like you see it.

I hope he figures it out because if he flows with this team and gets his offense goin it’s a major plus. We have an opportunity to go 5-2 if we play like tonight with a hiccup. But if we make the dance and get seeded right we are capable of some big things! Love the passion of all of y’all even if I don’t agree at that moment

[MarketingBully]

absolutely. I think we can finish the regular season on a 6-2 run.

Would be interesting if UK gets the double home loss combo like we did last week since they play UT at home Saturday. Our home stretch last week and Kentucky’s this week are brutal and both could go 0-2. Who the hell makes these schedules?

[Dawgcap]

Ado was the hidden gem tonight.

[Turfdawg67]

Would be interesting if UK gets the double home loss combo like we did last week since they play UT at home Saturday. Our home stretch last week and Kentucky’s this week are brutal and both could go 0-2. Who the hell makes these schedules?

UK will be extra motivated and UT is due a loss... which would be good for them actually.

[MarketingBully]

I hope he figures it out because if he flows with this team and gets his offense goin it’s a major plus. We have an opportunity to go 5-2 if we play like tonight with a hiccup. But if we make the dance and get seeded right we are capable of some big things! Love the passion of all of y’all even if I don’t agree at that moment

Lol, we are all Bulldog fans and we all want to win. I’m just glad we got under control and finished and more importantly Howland had our best five out there to finish the game. If Holman can give us 15 effort full minutes we will be a great team and hard to beat in the SEC and NCAA tournament.

[Dawgcap]

Lol, we are all Bulldog fans and we all want to win. I’m just glad we got under control and finished and more importantly Howland had our best five out there to finish the game. If Holman can give us 15 effort full minutes we will be a great team and hard to beat in the SEC and NCAA tournament.
Again I argue sometimes to calm the negative but I realize I’m probably irritating at certain times because of that. We all want the same thing. We just show up at the end of a 2 way driveway in different directions. But damn it’s nice to show up at the end of a winning driveway.
Seriously these next 4-5 games are critical to us being basketball relevant. We make the tournament on a high note and play with that intensity we are a tough out. The thing we are all most frustrated about is the effort but then we argue about parts of a game that shows in a stat line. If we get in peoples shit, play with heart we won’t lose missing a few free throws. We have lost by complacency and to be honest it has been on all levels of the court. If Howland can get this effort from here on out I’m feeling optimistic

[MarketingBully]

Again I argue sometimes to calm the negative but I realize I’m probably irritating at certain times because of that. We all want the same thing. We just show up at the end of a 2 way driveway in different directions. But damn it’s nice to show up at the end of a winning driveway.
Seriously these next 4-5 games are critical to us being basketball relevant. We make the tournament on a high note and play with that intensity we are a tough out. The thing we are all most frustrated about is the effort but then we argue about parts of a game that shows in a stat line. If we get in peoples shit, play with heart we won’t lose missing a few free throws. We have lost by complacency and to be honest it has been on all levels of the court. If Howland can get this effort from here on out I’m feeling optimistic

Play like we did tonight and we will be on a five game win streak going to Auburn and we aren’t worried about the bubble.

[Dawgcap]

Look Duke came down by 23 in the 2nd and won. We battled through a couple runs tonight and held serve. One thing i realized is we may not be good enough for a Final Four but if this team invests in each other we are capable of a Sweet 16 run. I hope Howland is preaching this tonight. We are a sleeper but if we have lapse we don’t deserve the tournament. This team MUST play hard. If they don’t heartbreak is coming. We will see.

[Schultzy]

9-9 we’re in

[Dawgcap]

Play like we did tonight and we will be on a five game win streak going to Auburn and we aren’t worried about the bubble.
I agree. Thing is we have to play every game with this effort. We are talented. We haven’t hurt ourselves this year by metrics this year but we did because we have no room for error. We are still in the tournament but that’s because metrics expect us to win the next 4. The losses earlier gave us very limited room for error so no matter what Howland has to keep this fire lit. We will know in the next 2 weeks what this team wants. I expect a team ready to go on a roll. Hope that play and want that

[Dawgcap]

Typing on a phone. Didn’t see the typos. Bottom line it’s time to grow balls and win some damn games. No room for error

[CadaverDawg]

Great win. Robert Woodard is so so good. You forget that he's a freshman. The way he was backing the ball out to run clock at the end when we had numbers...that's veteran stuff. Q and Lamar would've shot, but Woodard backs it out...I love that. Smart basketball.

Hats off to Lamar Peters, I give him hell for being Gary Ervin at times, and he still needs to learn to finish these layups, but he was much more productive tonight and I thought he made good decisions even if they didn't drop.

Q is so silky smooth. I truly think he could score 40+ like the announcer said if he wanted to. But I like the way he didn't force bad shots tonight. He has become a force. He reminds me of Tim Bowers a little, how he can always find a way to the basket when he needs to.

Perry worked on those free throws all week and it showed. Keep it up, kid...you're NBA bound.

Nick is our motor. Love the effort and passion he is bringing every night.

Ado played really well. I forget he is a Sophomore.

Not sure what happened to Holman, but I'm glad Howland is finally cutting those minutes. We are so much better on D when he's on the bench. Hate it for him, but only he can change it.

Really good win! Two big road games coming up. Really need to win both. Keep playing like tonight and we will. Hail State

[AROB44]

Ado played really well. I forget he is a Sophomore.


I think quite a lot of people forget that as well. I think he will continue to get better and will be really good by the time he is a senior. Might not be a good offensive player but could be a beast on defense and rebounding.