2019 Signing Day Post Actual Signees Thread

[I seen it dawg]

As of 11:40 am.

8 signee's (14 in the Fall signing period) = 22 expected

4* DT Nathan Pickering
3* WR Javonta Payton - JUCO
3* OT Brandon Cunningham
3* S Collin Duncan
3* CB Martin Emerson
3* RB Kareem Walker - JUCO
3* CB Dylan Lawrence
Grad Transfer - Punter - Corliss Waitman

4* DT Nathan Pickering
https://247sports.com/Player/Nathan-Pickering-46039501/

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3* WR Javonta Payton - JUCO
https://247sports.com/player/javonta-payton-89967/
(https://247sports.com/player/javonta-payton-89967/)
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3* OT Brandon Cunningham
https://247sports.com/player/brandon-cunningham-46040542/
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3* S Collin Duncan
https://247sports.com/player/collin-duncan-94207/

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3* CB Martin Emerson
https://247sports.com/player/martin-emerson-jr-46043261/

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3* RB Kareem Walker - JUCO
https://247sports.com/player/kareem-walker-37417/

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3* CB Dylan Lawrence
https://247sports.com/Player/Dylan-Lawrence-46056670/


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Grad Transfer - P - Corliss Waitman
https://247sports.com/Player/Corliss-Waitman-37311/
https://usajaguars.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=7629

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[BuckyIsAB****]

https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/Season/2019-Football/Commits/

[I seen it dawg]

Not link it but post it please someone. The actual list

[Commercecomet24]

Nathan Pickering - Signed.

[ScoobaDawg]

Fine I'll move to editing this one...

[Commercecomet24]

Fine I'll move to editing this one...

Thanks, Scooba.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Not link it but post it please someone. The actual list

Charles Cross

Garrett Shrader

Ani Izuchukwu

Fred Peters

LaQuinston Sharp

Nathan Pickering

Jarrian Jones

Nick Pendley

Jack Harris

Demonte Russell

Quinton Torbor

Lee Witherspoon

Javeious Purvis

Brevyn Jones

Kyziah Pruitt

All signed

Commits

Brandon Cunningham

Javonta Payton

Kareem Walker

Martin Emerson

[I seen it dawg]

Thanks Bucky, Scooba

[ScoobaDawg]

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Thanks Bucky...I'll work those Fall signees in after this mornings activities...

[Commercecomet24]

Payton is a good get. Kid can fly and has good size. He can stretch the field. Vertical threat.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

What happened to Moore signing at 9:30?

[Really Clark?]

Lawrence will be signing shortly. Got our paperwork

[Commercecomet24]

What happened to Moore signing at 9:30?

I believe he pushed it back to noon. Nothing surprises me with him.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I believe he pushed it back to noon. Nothing surprises me with him.

Prolly changed his mind again. Im telling you if he signs with State it shouldnt shock anyone

[Dawg4Lyfe]

I believe he pushed it back to noon. Nothing surprises me with him.

He will be signing with Auburn shortly. Louisville has 13 other kids signing before him.

[BrunswickDawg]

Emerson is in the boat

[msstate7]

Emerson is in the boat

Good job by staff with him. Credit where credit due

[chef dixon]

Good news!!!

[BrunswickDawg]

Duncan in the boat too

[Commercecomet24]

Really good news! 6'2" athletic dbs don't grow on trees.

[deadheaddawg]

Thanks for this thread. Finally something helpful and informative on here.

It's hard to see what has actually happened and who we got.

Welcome to the family all new recruits.

[Really Clark?]

Walker is official

[msstate7]

Walker is official

We really need this lottery ticket to hit

[ScoobaDawg]

Well we evidently sent papers to Lawrence hours ago... and we are down to the final 2 at least per the 22 slot board...

So who will be the last one we don't know about?

[Commercecomet24]

We really need this lottery ticket to hit

He's got the measurables, got to put in the work to get there.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

We really need this lottery ticket to hit

We really need him to provide depth, not count on him as a starter at any point.

[RougeDawg]

Moore to auburn? Were they big players?

[gravedigger]

we needed this thread

[msstate7]

We really need him to provide depth, not count on him as a starter at any point.

He could be the de facto starter at any point in 2020. Hill gets an injury in 2020 or blows up this season, it could be the walker show

[dawgday166]

He could be the de facto starter at any point in 2020. Hill gets an injury in 2020 or blows up this season, it could be the walker show

So you honestly think Hill has a decent chance of "blowing up"? I'm just not seeing this at all. Not saying he won't be good, but he ain't near as good as our fans thinks he is IMO. He might become that but I'm not sure his vision is good enough yet, or ever will be. And his blocking has a good ways to go too.

[msstate7]

So you honestly think Hill has a decent chance of "blowing up"? I'm just not seeing this at all. Not saying he won't be good, but he ain't near as good as our fans thinks he is IMO. He might become that but I'm not sure his vision is good enough yet, or ever will be. And his blocking has a good ways to go too.

No, but I've saw bear and JRob do something stupid after a solid junior year. I think hill will have a very solid year and we've hyped him so much, I could see him try it

[dawgday166]

No, but I've saw bear and JRob do something stupid after a solid junior year. I think hill will have a very solid year and we've hyped him so much, I could see him try it

Now I'm getting your meaning ... I can certainly see that cause the similarities are there IMO.

[ScoobaDawg]

and the final piece... Grad transfer punter from USA - Corliss Waitman

[bulldawg28]

This class is legit. There is talent everywhere and no scrubs. I'm impressed.

[msstate7]

and the final piece... Grad transfer punter from USA - Corliss Waitman

We got em?

[ShotgunDawg]

and the final piece... Grad transfer punter from USA - Corliss Waitman

I actually like this sign. A left football punter with a chance at the NFL.

This could be huge for us this season. What's funny is that this guy will probably have more impact that Hall, Moore, or Handy

We beat out Bama for him. Bama was apparently all in

[Political Hack]

Corliss Waitman in.

[ShotgunDawg]

This class is legit. There is talent everywhere and no scrubs. I'm impressed.

One DT & difference making WR & RB short.

I don't think Moore was the difference making DT & I'm not totally sure Mingo was the difference making WR either. After all he was only a 91 rated player

I think if you add Young, Gray, & one more difference making WR to this class, it's maybe our best ever.

[Dawg4Lyfe]

Am I the only person that actually thinks this is a good class? I like it alot. Pickering and Cross are the best prospects in the state by far. Not counting Dean because i think he is too small.And Jones is the best athlete in the state. he just standouts when you watch him play.. But this class is solid.. actually better than solid. I know melting is the MSU way for some but remember this class in the future. It will be alotta better than most are giving credit for. I understand being upset with losing a couple battles at the end but we had some wins. Cross flipping from FSU, Jones flipping from OKL.. Somehow we are forgetting this.

[Commercecomet24]

I actually like this sign. A left football punter with a chance at the NFL.

This could be huge for us this season. What's funny is that this guy will probably have more impact that Hall, Moore, or Handy

We beat out Bama for him. Bama was apparently all in

Agreed. People may laugh at taking a punter but they're pretty dang important, just ask the Patriots. I love left footed punters, different spin, different angle on the ball, can make a difference.

[ShotgunDawg]

Corliss Waitman in.

Sneaky big sign with our defense taking a step back. Left footed punters usually get more muffed punts as well due to opposite spin & ball flight

[MetEdDawg]

It's already a Top 5 class of all time. People don't realize the context of that. We didn't sign a full class but I don't see any fillers or slouches here. Guys that can compete at a high level. We have 10 guys rated 4 stars by at least 1 service. It's a good class.

And ESPN has OM and Arkansas in front of us. Arkansas has 27 commits and OM has 28. We have 22

[Commercecomet24]

Sneaky big sign with our defense taking a step back. Left footed punters usually get more muffed punts as well due to opposite spin & ball flight

It's a fact, Belichick always has a left footed punter and the stats bear it out.

[ShotgunDawg]

Am I the only person that actually thinks this is a good class? I like it alot. Pickering and Cross are the best prospects in the state by far. Not counting Dean because i think he is too small.And Jones is the best athlete in the state. he just standouts when you watch him play.. But this class is solid.. actually better than solid. I know melting is the MSU way for some but remember this class in the future. It will be alotta better than most are giving credit for. I understand being upset with losing a couple battles at the end but we had some wins. Cross flipping from FSU, Jones flipping from OKL.. Somehow we are forgetting this.

It's not a bad class at all, but it doesn't get us closer to ATL IMO.

I view it as an average class in that, outside of having a Dak Prescott type QB, you can expect to be about as good as we've been in the past. However, I judge recruiting classes by whether or not they get us closer to ATL or not, &, with 16 instate 4 stars or better, it's extremely frustrating & IMO a failure to not sign a class that gets you closer to ATL. Makes you wonder if we are even capable of signing that type of class.

[ShotgunDawg]

It's already a Top 5 class of all time. People don't realize the context of that. We didn't sign a full class but I don't see any fillers or slouches here. Guys that can compete at a high level. We have 10 guys rated 4 stars by at least 1 service. It's a good class.

And ESPN has OM and Arkansas in front of us. Arkansas has 27 commits and OM has 28. We have 22

Not disagreeing but classes must be judged by the amount of talent within your recruiting footprint. It's not a bad class, it's just disappointing compared to what it could've/should've been. I do like what we did on the LOS, but we came up a DT short.

[msbulldog]

Am I the only person that actually thinks this is a good class? I like it alot. Pickering and Cross are the best prospects in the state by far. Not counting Dean because i think he is too small.And Jones is the best athlete in the state. he just standouts when you watch him play.. But this class is solid.. actually better than solid. I know melting is the MSU way for some but remember this class in the future. It will be alotta better than most are giving credit for. I understand being upset with losing a couple battles at the end but we had some wins. Cross flipping from FSU, Jones flipping from OKL.. Somehow we are forgetting this.

You are absolutely correct. Rep given.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

If you just look at it yes, it's a good class. It could have used a true stud RB or a immediate impact DT and WR, but it's a good class.

The problem is that it could have been much better. There's 16 4 and 5* players in MS. We got 4. OM Got 4. Auburn 3. We should have been better, especially relative to them. OM is way down and has a lame duck coach, Auburn is out of state and has a lame duck coach. Also subjectively people think it's worse than it is since it's been all downhill since early signing day... loosing Moore, James, and Washington while filing to flip Mingo or Ealy or Young leaves a taste of failure, but as y'all say when you take a step back it's a solid class.

Just should have been better. Missed opportunity that we won't get again for a while

[Commercecomet24]

Am I the only person that actually thinks this is a good class? I like it alot. Pickering and Cross are the best prospects in the state by far. Not counting Dean because i think he is too small.And Jones is the best athlete in the state. he just standouts when you watch him play.. But this class is solid.. actually better than solid. I know melting is the MSU way for some but remember this class in the future. It will be alotta better than most are giving credit for. I understand being upset with losing a couple battles at the end but we had some wins. Cross flipping from FSU, Jones flipping from OKL.. Somehow we are forgetting this.

It's a really good class. If we got one more DT, RB, and another WR, could've been a great one. There's a lot of talent in this class.

[BrunswickDawg]

Agreed. People may laugh at taking a punter but they're pretty dang important, just ask the Patriots. I love left footed punters, different spin, different angle on the ball, can make a difference.

We saw that this season. Losing Cooke killed us at times this season

[Commercecomet24]

We saw that this season. Losing Cooke killed us at times this season

It really did. When we had to depend on our defense so much, 30 yard punts don't help. Although I will say Day punted really well against unm and in the bowl game.

[ScoobaDawg]

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[mstatefan91]

Anybody have any ideas on grad transfers? I assume the QB position has been thrown out but who knows??

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Anybody have any ideas on grad transfers? I assume the QB position has been thrown out but who knows??

It seems the consensus across most MSU recruiting sites is going after a WR, punter, and DT. QB isn't hardly mentioned.

[Homedawg]

Purvis is the steal of the class, IMO

[Commercecomet24]

Purvis is the steal of the class, IMO

He's a really good player. Vastly underrated imo.

[Prediction? Pain.]

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If you just look at it yes, it's a good class. It could have used a true stud RB or a immediate impact DT and WR, but it's a good class.

The problem is that it could have been much better. There's 16 4 and 5* players in MS. We got 4. OM Got 4. Auburn 3. We should have been better, especially relative to them. OM is way down and has a lame duck coach, Auburn is out of state and has a lame duck coach. Also subjectively people think it's worse than it is since it's been all downhill since early signing day... loosing Moore, James, and Washington while filing to flip Mingo or Ealy or Young leaves a taste of failure, but as y'all say when you take a step back it's a solid class.

Just should have been better. Missed opportunity that we won't get again for a while

These are both good points that made me curious: What's the typical 4- and 5-star count out of Mississippi high schools? And how many of those dudes do we typically get?

Behold, the data (per 24/7):

2009: 9 MS blue chips; we got 5 (55%)
2010: 9 MS blue chips; we got 4 (44%)
2011: 7 MS blue chips; we got 1 (14%)
2012: 7 MS blue chips; we got 3 (43%)
2013: 5 MS blue chips; we got 2 (40%)
2014: 8 MS blue chips; we got 3 (38%)
2015: 7 MS blue chips; we got 4 (57%)
2016: 11 MS blue chips; we got 3 (27%)
2017: 7 MS blue chips; we got 2 (29%)
2018: 4 MS blue chips; we got 3 (75%)
2019: 16 MS blue chips; we got 4 (25%)

In 11 years, the state has produced 90 4- and 5-star recruits, which is a shade over 8 dudes a year. We've gotten a total of 34 of those dudes, which is 37.8%.

In the nine classes that Mullen signed, we got a total of 38.6% of the state's 4- and 5-star recruits. His high was 57% (2015) and his low was 14% (2011).

In the two classes that Moorhead has signed, we've gotten a total of 35% of the state's 4- and 5-star recruits. High was 75% and low was 25%.

Small sample size for Moorhead, so it's tough to take too much away from yet. If you add two more blue chips to the class this year -- and from what I've read since yesterday about the effect of our late staff changes, one or two more may have actually been doable -- this class would be at Mullen's 9-year rate. But yeah, it was a bad year to get less than our past decade's average.

How about out-of-state blue chippers?

In nine years, Mullen signed a total of seven. (And one of those was Cord Sandberg.) Never signed more than two in a given year (which he did twice, including the Sandberg year), and had four years with none. His average was .78 per year.

In two years, Moorhead has signed four. So his average so far is two per year.

Again, too small of a sample size for Moorhead. But if -- if -- he can keep the two-per-year out-of-state thing going at a minimum and at the same time get his in-state average up to around 40% or 45% (which, based on the past decade, shouldn't be entirely out of the question), we could start to see an uptick.

Man, reading back over that, treating dudes like commodities, I feel kind of gross. Yeah, back to work for me, fellas. Hope this ramble contributes something to your time wasting this afternoon.

[I seen it dawg]

Great post. And Moorhead has a lot less HC experience and in the south than Mullen.

[ScoobaDawg]

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2019: 16 MS blue chips; we got 4 (25%)

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This is exactly the problem. There was a wealth of talent in the state this year and we got as many as we usually did, the problem was the pond was bigger this year with talent.

I wondered where all 16 went so I did a quick check.
4 to us
4 to Mississippi
3 to Auburn (that's what hurt)
2 to Bama
1 to LSU, Ark, and UGA.

Next year, the pool will shrink back down. Currently there are 7 MS 5 and 4 star players...and we have 3 committed to us.

[Bdawg]

This is exactly the problem. There was a wealth of talent in the state this year and we got as many as we usually did, the problem was the pond was bigger this year with talent.

I wondered where all 16 went so I did a quick check.
4 to us
4 to Mississippi
3 to Auburn (that's what hurt)
2 to Bama
1 to LSU, Ark, and UGA.

Next year, the pool will shrink back down. Currently there are 7 MS 5 and 4 star players...and we have 3 committed to us.

I'm sure the services will knock a few of our guys down a star since they are already committed to us.

[ScoobaDawg]

I'm sure the services will knock a few of our guys down a star since they are already committed to us.

Possibly...and it's not really a joke...and it's why I don't understand everyone flips out about rankings. It's one measure of talent.

[Bdawg]

Possibly...and it's not really a joke...and it's why I don't understand everyone flips out about rankings. It's one measure of talent.

Yep. They are definitely not going to pander to MSU when it comes to rankings. But even with this years class, some of our 3 stars are close to being 4 star guys. If some of the big schools would have signed them they might would have ended up a composite 4 star. There are exceptions like Cross but way more times than not, our guys seem to get knocked down a notch while the blue bloods recruits usually get that little bump. Guess it's just a biased ranking system with some people
giving the blue bloods the benefit of the doubt with recruits they may not know very well.