Charles Cross - #8 5*

[Big4Dawg]

Charles Cross is now the 8th overall player according to 247. Wow. Impressive jump. Was just #207 on 11/15/2018.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Well deserved. Went out & warned it on the field.

[Commercecomet24]

Fine young man and well deserved ! He's repping Jones County well!

[Dawgology]

Nice. Congrats to Cross and good job to the staff for hanging on to him. Well done by all.

[TrapGame]

Nice. We need more of this.

[Rayburn8]

Say what you will about this class, but it is hard to complain when you get your QB of the future and an absolute stud LT ton protect him.

[Commercecomet24]

Joe and staff flipped Cross from Florida State. We don't flip 5 star players from blue bloods very often, so amongst all the recruiting melt lately let's look at the talent we are getting in this class. Recruiting can be frustrating at times because you're dealing with teenagers and their "handlers" but this staff has worked tirelessly and for Joe's first full class he's bringing in some fine talent. May still be some rabbits coming out of the hat in a couple weeks too.

[BeardoMSU]

Say what you will about this class, but it is hard to complain when you get your QB of the future and an absolute stud LT ton protect him.

Not to mention a potentially all-time great D-line class....but yeah....life sucks.

[MarketingBully]

Not to mention a potentially all-time great D-line class....but yeah....life sucks.

If we can get Young to replace Moore, we will be just fine.

[Todd4State]

Any threads about some random three star cornerback decommitting?**

[msbulldog]

Joe and staff flipped Cross from Florida State. We don't flip 5 star players from blue bloods very often, so amongst all the recruiting melt lately let's look at the talent we are getting in this class. Recruiting can be frustrating at times because you're dealing with teenagers and their "handlers" but this staff has worked tirelessly and for Joe's first full class he's bringing in some fine talent. May still be some rabbits coming out of the hat in a couple weeks too.

Give a whole lot of credit to Coach Marcus Johnson!

[1bigdawg]

If we can get Young to replace Moore, we will be just fine.

That would be great, but rather have both.

[MetEdDawg]

Biggest recruiting victory in MSU history. All Joe Moorhead people.

[Commercecomet24]

Give a whole lot of credit to Coach Marcus Johnson!

Yep, Marcus has been doing a great job on the recruiting trail. 6 commits in this class so far are his.

[msstate7]

Biggest recruiting victory in MSU history. All Joe Moorhead people.

https://i.postimg.cc/wjNCTfM9/9901-D283-7378-43-AC-94-A0-38-DEB19-CF848.jpg (https://postimg.cc/k2n1TyWH)

I'd put pegues and Simmons up there too.

Outstanding get though. Huge jump and well deserved for cross. Good job staff

[BB30]

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I'd put pegues and Simmons up there too.

Outstanding get though. Huge jump and well deserved for cross. Good job staff

This was definitely a bigger "recruiting victory" than Jones or Pegues simply due to the position and what we have historically done at that position. Much easier to recruit a stud DL than it is LT to state.

[confucius say]

And the fact that we flipped him from FSU. Don't think jones, Simmons, or pegues were flipped

[Ifyouonlyknew]

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I'd put pegues and Simmons up there too.

Outstanding get though. Huge jump and well deserved for cross. Good job staff

You can argue who's the biggest but it's likely the most impressive.

[msstate7]

This was definitely a bigger "recruiting victory" than Jones or Pegues simply due to the position and what we have historically done at that position. Much easier to recruit a stud DL than it is LT to state.

Context... do you remember the Chris Jones' recruitment? It was a national story. We were really close to seeing om having Chris Jones and Kim lining up in the middle of their defense. They were already #1 scoring defense in the country in 2014.
Chris Jones was absolutely huge.

Cross is a great get, easily top 5 all time, but Chris Jones is #1.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Charles Cross is now the 8th overall player according to 247. Wow. Impressive jump. Was just #207 on 11/15/2018.

I am interested to see how someone can make negative out of this.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We were really close to seeing om having Chris Jones and Kim lining up in the middle of their defense.

According to Chris's Mom we weren't close at all.

[msstate7]

According to Chris's Mom we weren't close at all.

Then forget Chris for making all us state fans think that haha

That recruitment was the most tense one I ever remember.

[msstate7]

Again though, absolutely huge get. As Rayburn said earlier, big win to get your QB and LT in a class. 2 of the most important positions on the field. Great job, joe

[MetEdDawg]

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I'd put pegues and Simmons up there too.

Outstanding get though. Huge jump and well deserved for cross. Good job staff

Flipped him from Florida State. Biggest recruiting victory ever bar none.

[Pit Bull]

How does a player gain or lose a star when no highschool football is being played and all the film there is to see has been watched over and over and over again? Does somebody just change their mind? Is a psych interview done with the player and he shows superior football knowledge than the average player? Just curious as to how this process works when there is absolutely no chance to impress or depress an evaluator with your play on the field or on film.

[Dawgology]

How does a player gain or lose a star when no highschool football is being played and all the film there is to see has been watched over and over and over again? Does somebody just change their mind? Is a psych interview done with the player and he shows superior football knowledge than the average player? Just curious as to how this process works when there is absolutely no chance to impress or depress an evaluator with your play on the field or on film.

There have been multiple "showcase" games played since the time you are talking about. This is where elite talent went up against elite talent and he absolutely showed out in those games. That is what this realignment is based upon.

[MetEdDawg]

How does a player gain or lose a star when no highschool football is being played and all the film there is to see has been watched over and over and over again? Does somebody just change their mind? Is a psych interview done with the player and he shows superior football knowledge than the average player? Just curious as to how this process works when there is absolutely no chance to impress or depress an evaluator with your play on the field or on film.

His performance during his all star stuff. Guys don't always get to go against other top talent during the school season but they do get to go up against top talent guys during all American games. He did that and he dominated. Thus the bump

[msstate7]

You can argue who's the biggest but it's likely the most impressive.

I thought croom getting pegues may have been the most impressive get we've ever had. OM just doesn't lose south Panola kids that highly rated often at all.

[Ari Gold]

Then forget Chris for making all us state fans think that haha

That recruitment was the most tense one I ever remember.

It’s probably because you had no insight as to what all went on and as just listening to Yancy..
Mom and Garadmother wasn’t letting him enroll at OM.

[Offshore Dawg]

I am interested to see how someone can make negative out of this.

Give it a minute !!

[Dawg61]

Context... do you remember the Chris Jones' recruitment? It was a national story. We were really close to seeing om having Chris Jones and Kim lining up in the middle of their defense. They were already #1 scoring defense in the country in 2014.
Chris Jones was absolutely huge.

Cross is a great get, easily top 5 all time, but Chris Jones is #1.

Holding onto Dak over LSU is #1 all-time. Prescott forever changed the face of our program. He wasn't rated that highly but his effect on our program was priceless and continues to be while he's leading the Cowboys. Chris Jones is a fantastic player but if you asked 99% of the football fans in this country who he is and what school he played for they wouldn't be able to answer either question correctly.

[msstate7]

Holding onto Dak over LSU is #1 all-time. Prescott forever changed the face of our program. He wasn't rated that highly but his effect on our program was priceless and continues to be while he's leading the Cowboys. Chris Jones is a fantastic player but if you asked 99% of the football fans in this country who he is and what school he played for they wouldn't be able to answer either question correctly.
After the fact, yeah, it's dak. I thought we were taking in the moment with no regard to how careers play out

[Howboutdemdogs]

Good for Mr. Cross!

[msbulldog]

Holding onto Dak over LSU is #1 all-time. Prescott forever changed the face of our program. He wasn't rated that highly but his effect on our program was priceless and continues to be while he's leading the Cowboys. Chris Jones is a fantastic player but if you asked 99% of the football fans in this country who he is and what school he played for they wouldn't be able to answer either question correctly.

You are absolutely correct! Dak is on TV commercials constantly, we can't buy that kind of pub! Rep given!

[Homedawg]

According to Chris's Mom we weren't close at all.

Well we had numerous coaches scared to death at 2 a.m. thinking he was going the other way.

[msstate7]

Delete

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Well we had numerous coaches scared to death at 2 a.m. thinking he was going the other way.

Just telling you what Mom said

http://www.djournal.com/chickasaw/sports/signing-day-jones-and-shumpert-pick-mississippi-state/article_30af23e8-c36f-5fc6-9eff-0f94419e9c03.html

[Lord McBuckethead]

I am interested to see how someone can make negative out of this.

Couldn't get to #7? **

[Homedawg]

Just telling you what Mom said

http://www.djournal.com/chickasaw/sports/signing-day-jones-and-shumpert-pick-mississippi-state/article_30af23e8-c36f-5fc6-9eff-0f94419e9c03.html

And I'm not doubting what she said. However, I also am telling you what I know, we had coaches who thought he was gone at 2a.m. That's not conjecture. By 4 it was better, then still nervous until he signed.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

And I'm not doubting what she said. However, I also am telling you what I know, we had coaches who thought he was gone at 2a.m. That's not conjecture. By 4 it was better, then still nervous until he signed.

I'm not doubting you & im sure Chris was saying a lot but Chris Mom told Mullen that weekend at the lunch at the church before signing day don't worry he's signing with MSU.

[Ari Gold]

***** has only been defeated one time that I know of. Chris jones is 1-0 against *****

[I seen it dawg]

Context... do you remember the Chris Jones' recruitment? It was a national story. We were really close to seeing om having Chris Jones and Kim lining up in the middle of their defense. They were already #1 scoring defense in the country in 2014.
Chris Jones was absolutely huge.

Cross is a great get, easily top 5 all time, but Chris Jones is #1.

No he was not. Jones and Cross not in same solar system. Jones was coming to State. Cross was going to FSU and we took him from them. That hasn't happened around here. Mullen and the country club would have NEVER even sniffed the guy, not even attempted. So no Jones and Cross are not the same.

[I seen it dawg]

Well we had numerous coaches scared to death at 2 a.m. thinking he was going the other way.

Yeah well that doesn't surprise me.

[I seen it dawg]

Holding onto Dak over LSU is #1 all-time. Prescott forever changed the face of our program. He wasn't rated that highly but his effect on our program was priceless and continues to be while he's leading the Cowboys. Chris Jones is a fantastic player but if you asked 99% of the football fans in this country who he is and what school he played for they wouldn't be able to answer either question correctly.

Dak was always coming to State. As far as just recruiting battle without career playing out this is absolutely huge. For us historic bc the last 10 years at least we've never done it. Taking a 5* (even 4 which he was) from someone else. Now he has to become a 5* player to even compare to Dak obviously.

[I seen it dawg]

And I'm not doubting what she said. However, I also am telling you what I know, we had coaches who thought he was gone at 2a.m. That's not conjecture. By 4 it was better, then still nervous until he signed.

Hard working grinders would have been ok

[BeardoMSU]

***** has only been defeated one time that I know of. Chris jones is 1-0 against *****

The new Chuck Norris joke, lol.

[Jack Lambert]

When was the last time the State of Miss had two five stars in the same recruiting cycle?

[Commercecomet24]

When was the last time the State of Miss had two five stars in the same recruiting cycle?

There's actually 3 now, Jack. Cross, Ealy and Nakobe Dean. Pretty crazy.

[smootness]

No he was not. Jones and Cross not in same solar system. Jones was coming to State. Cross was going to FSU and we took him from them. That hasn't happened around here. Mullen and the country club would have NEVER even sniffed the guy, not even attempted. So no Jones and Cross are not the same.

They're different kinds of wins. Jones and Dak are similar in that the big win for the staff was identifying them early on. If we wait until they start getting more attention, we maybe don't land either one. Cross is a different kind of win, getting someone everyone knew was good from a big-time program.

In both cases, we potentially stole them from bigger programs, we just went about them in different ways.

[sandwolf]

Holding onto Dak over LSU is #1 all-time. Prescott forever changed the face of our program. He wasn't rated that highly but his effect on our program was priceless and continues to be while he's leading the Cowboys. Chris Jones is a fantastic player but if you asked 99% of the football fans in this country who he is and what school he played for they wouldn't be able to answer either question correctly.

No doubt, if you're factoring in their career after signing day, then it's Dak and there isn't a close second. But like 7, I was thinking more at the time of signing with no regard to how their careers played out.

[Jack Lambert]

There's actually 3 now, Jack. Cross, Ealy and Nakobe Dean. Pretty crazy.

I forgot about Dean. I guess because he signed with GA.

[RougeDawg]

And the fact that we flipped him from FSU. Don't think jones, Simmons, or pegues were flipped

What you and most people on here do not know about the Chris Jones saga will change your mind on this one. I?m glad CJ was a Dawg, but some of the things involved I disapprove of. One day in the future I may spill the beans. But it?ll be after CJ is done in the NFL.

[TrapGame]

No he was not. Jones and Cross not in same solar system. Jones was coming to State. Cross was going to FSU and we took him from them. That hasn't happened around here. Mullen and the country club would have NEVER even sniffed the guy, not even attempted. So no Jones and Cross are not the same.

ISID, was it you that told the story of T Buck coming in completely appalled at the lack of enthusiasm for recruiting 4* and 5* guys? So he goes to Florida and flips a 4* OL from FSU that Mullen said he was wasting his time on.

[Ari Gold]

ISID, was it you that told the story of T Buck coming in completely appalled at the lack of enthusiasm for recruiting 4* and 5* guys? So he goes to Florida and flips a 4* OL from FSU that Mullen said he was wasting his time on.

Not ISID but correct.
Stewart Reese was the player don’t think he was commited to anyone
And not sure if Mullen said wasting your time. But it was said if you think you can get him go ahead and good luck. And supposedly Gonzo thought it was funny.

[I seen it dawg]

They're different kinds of wins. Jones and Dak are similar in that the big win for the staff was identifying them early on. If we wait until they start getting more attention, we maybe don't land either one. Cross is a different kind of win, getting someone everyone knew was good from a big-time program.

In both cases, we potentially stole them from bigger programs, we just went about them in different ways.

Right...thought that's what I said. Maybe i was confusing some...

[Homedawg]

Yeah well that doesn't surprise me.

Ha. Not the ones you think. The ones that actually helped get him. The others were in bed!!

[Todd4State]

Not ISID but correct.
Stewart Reese was the player don’t think he was commited to anyone
And not sure if Mullen said wasting your time. But it was said if you think you can get him go ahead and good luck. And supposedly Gonzo thought it was funny.

Scary to think about what our o-line would have looked like without Reese who has been actually playing out of position for two years thanks to Hevesy apparently deciding that we don't need OT's with "small" hands.