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msstate7
01-21-2019, 04:34 PM
Looking at his previous stops, seems there's a disturbing trend...

S&P+ defense rankings:
2011 vandy = 32nd
2012 = 41st
2013 = 47th
2014 penn st = 3rd
2015 = 16th
2016 tenn = 52nd
2017 = 68th

Total defense goes with the same trend... each year yds/game went up. Looks like shoop's first year is his best.

KOdawg1
01-21-2019, 04:35 PM
Well that trend will continue next year because of the talent we're losing.

I think Shoop is a good coach.

msstate7
01-21-2019, 04:36 PM
Well that trend will continue next year because of the talent we're losing.

I think Shoop is a good coach.

I do too. I will be quite happy if he keeps us in 30s to low 40s

CadaverDawg
01-21-2019, 04:39 PM
Great.

Percho
01-21-2019, 04:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAAKPJEq1Ew

bulldawg28
01-21-2019, 04:44 PM
Looking at his previous stops, seems there's a disturbing trend...

S&P+ defense rankings:
2011 vandy = 32nd
2012 = 41st
2013 = 47th
2014 penn st = 3rd
2015 = 16th
2016 tenn = 52nd
2017 = 68th

Total defense goes with the same trend... each year yds/game went up. Looks like shoop's first year is his best.

Damn bro? Don't you have a job or something to try and find gloom? It's getting concerning or your 100% trolling. You're reaching suicide levels now.

msstate7
01-21-2019, 04:46 PM
Damn bro? Don't you have a job or something to try and find gloom? It's getting concerning or your 100% trolling. You're reaching suicide levels now.

Sorry stats bother you

Cooterpoot
01-21-2019, 04:52 PM
Go pull the stats on graduating players and recruiting for those teams. TN was a dumpster fire, PSU was a dumpster fire when he started there, Vandy is Vandy.
7 you are a miserable excuse for a fan. Lol

Ifyouonlyknew
01-21-2019, 04:57 PM
Sorry stats bother you

All of those defenses finished Top 25 in total defense outside of his 2 TN years. 6 out of 8 seasons coaching in D1 he had Top 25 defenses. So even if they took a small step back they were still very good.


Total Defense
2018 - MSU (1)
2015 - Penn St (15)
2014 - Penn St (2)
2013 - Vandy (23)
2012 - Vandy (19)
2011 - Vandy (18)

6 Top 25 Defenses - 5 Top 20 Defenses - 3 Top 15 Defenses - 2 Top 3 Defenses

I seen it dawg
01-21-2019, 04:59 PM
Muther**** it's getting unbearable in here. ****** mad when they leave ****ing mad when they stay.

msstate7
01-21-2019, 05:01 PM
Muther**** it's getting unbearable in here. ****** mad when they leave ****ing mad when they stay.

You should read the 3rd post in this thread if you can settle down and breathe

bulldawg28
01-21-2019, 05:01 PM
Sorry stats bother you

None of those defenses were ever #1 under Shoop. Go find me a stat where it's even comparable. The only talent comparable was Penn State. Going from #3 to #16 isn't a gigantic drop off in football stats.

msstate7
01-21-2019, 05:03 PM
None of those defenses were ever #1 under Shoop. Go find me a stat where it's even comparable. The only talent comparable was Penn State. Going from #3 to #16 isn't a gigantic drop off in football stats.
Never said it was. Just said there is a clear trend that his defenses dropped each year.

bluelightstar
01-21-2019, 05:04 PM
Okay I think Moorhead is pretty blah but this just looks like trying to find something to complain about

msstate7
01-21-2019, 05:06 PM
Okay I think Moorhead is pretty blah but this just looks like trying to find something to complain about

When did I complain in this thread? I've been an adamant supporter of shoop since he got here. I loved the hire and I love the extension. I just found it interesting and posted it. Had there been a clear pattern of getting better, I'd have posted it too.

I seen it dawg
01-21-2019, 05:07 PM
You should read the 3rd post in this thread if you can settle down and breathe

I'm fine.

I seen it dawg
01-21-2019, 05:09 PM
When did I complain in this thread? I've been an adamant supporter of shoop since he got here. I loved the hire and I love the extension. I just found it interesting and posted it. Had there been a clear pattern of getting better, I'd have posted it too.

Lol it's kinda like Foambat over Gridley going to find half a picture in an attempt to make yourself look smart. I guess.

msstate7
01-21-2019, 05:10 PM
Lol it's kinda like Foambat over Gridley going to find half a picture in an attempt to make yourself look smart. I guess.

Whop ready day 1

We still getting dean?

I seen it dawg
01-21-2019, 05:19 PM
I guess i missed where i said whop would be ready day 1. If i did I'm sure you'll find it and I'll admit I'm wrong on it. Dean i was wrong about i guess maybe i said he was ours. Again I'm sure you'll find that too. You ever gonna admit Foambat over a Gridley is wrong?

msstate7
01-21-2019, 05:20 PM
You ever gonna admit Foambat over a Gridley is wrong?

I have several times

I seen it dawg
01-21-2019, 05:30 PM
I guess i missed that mea culpa too. Dig for the whop and dean info tho i want to fess up

msstate7
01-21-2019, 05:38 PM
I guess i missed that mea culpa too. Dig for the whop and dean info tho i want to fess up

Looks like I confused your two handles... ari posted it

I seen it dawg
01-21-2019, 05:40 PM
Looks like I confused your two handles... ari posted it

Ahhhhhhhh i see. So you again just threw some shit out there. Some things never change.

msstate7
01-21-2019, 05:43 PM
Ahhhhhhhh i see. So you again just threw some shit out there. Some things never change.

Yeah, 2 different people. Wink, wink

I seen it dawg
01-21-2019, 05:45 PM
It is. And again you are wrong

yjnkdawg
01-21-2019, 05:56 PM
Damn bro? Don't you have a job or something to try and find gloom? It's getting concerning or your 100% trolling. You're reaching suicide levels now.


Not 100% but there is definitely some trolling posts or threads for argumentative purposes.

BankerDog
01-21-2019, 06:25 PM
Not 100% but there is definitely some trolling posts or threads for argumentative purposes.

All it takes is to see who is starting these threads and you?ll see a common trend. He, Shotgun, and Cadaver are unbearable and continue to always melt.

Turfdawg67
01-21-2019, 06:26 PM
Damn bro? Don't you have a job or something to try and find gloom? It's getting concerning or your 100% trolling. You're reaching suicide levels now.

It's what he does... 50K trolls here, 10K on SPS, 30K+ on some Saints board and ~50K+ on a Braves board somewhere. Zero life but to moan and groan on message boards.

Turfdawg67
01-21-2019, 06:30 PM
Not 100% but there is definitely some trolling posts or threads for argumentative purposes.


Ahhhhhhhh i see. So you again just threw some shit out there. Some things never change.

It's what he does... 50K trolls here, 10K on SPS, 30K+ on some Saints board and ~50K+ on a Braves board somewhere. Zero life but to moan and groan on message boards.

yjnkdawg
01-21-2019, 10:17 PM
It's what he does... 50K trolls here, 10K on SPS, 30K+ on some Saints board and ~50K+ on a Braves board somewhere. Zero life but to moan and groan on message boards.


Add to that researching all those many many statistics he posts, and you wonder how he has time to even sleep or get three meals a day.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
01-21-2019, 11:55 PM
When did I complain in this thread? I've been an adamant supporter of shoop since he got here. I loved the hire and I love the extension. I just found it interesting and posted it. Had there been a clear pattern of getting better, I'd have posted it too.

A lot of our fans(use that term loosely) are on edge right now. I saw nothing wrong with your post.

tcdog70
01-22-2019, 11:43 AM
I'm worried about this team going forward-except for the Defense and Kicking game. We will have a great Defense next year--Shoop will get the job done. Our DBs will be a strength along with our linebackers.--We will have some young one step up on the DL. So worry about JOMO and let Shoop dominate on defense.

MrKotter
01-22-2019, 02:06 PM
Looking at his previous stops, seems there's a disturbing trend...

S&P+ defense rankings:
2011 vandy = 32nd
2012 = 41st
2013 = 47th
2014 penn st = 3rd
2015 = 16th
2016 tenn = 52nd
2017 = 68th

Total defense goes with the same trend... each year yds/game went up. Looks like shoop's first year is his best.

Good Lord. Do some of you just dig for things to flip out over? The estrogen is running high around here lately

msstate7
01-22-2019, 02:21 PM
Good Lord. Do some of you just dig for things to flip out over? The estrogen is running high around here lately

That's rich. B*tching about a strictly fact based post, and then implying I'm running high on estrogen. Have you ever posted anything but complaints about other posters?

Lord McBuckethead
01-22-2019, 09:21 PM
Maybe Whop was ready game 1? We will never know. He should have garnered atleast 30 snaps a game nonconferemce to let him grow into it. Seeing how we played against KY, FL, and Bama, might as well give him a ton of snaps then as well.

msstate7
01-22-2019, 09:22 PM
Maybe Whop was ready game 1? We will never know. He should have garnered atleast 30 snaps a game nonconferemce to let him grow into it. Seeing how we played against KY, FL, and Bama, might as well give him a ton of snaps then as well.

He should've played more or RS'd fo sho