DJ James out

[Big4Dawg]

Decommitted per twitter. Looks like headed to Oregon. Keep it up coaches! Strong finish again***

[bluelightstar]

What an epic collapse

[Coursesuper]

Yep this shit show is getting stronger and stronger.

[hacker]

Shitty day today

[ShotgunDawg]

Oregon has to be buying players.

This kid is a homebody. Makes absolutely no sense for him to go there.

[civildawg]

Someone take joe out to the pasture and put him down

[CadaverDawg]

Remind me why I'm wrong about Joe, again?

[maroonmania]

Was Huff his primary recruiter or something? Thought we were in good shape with him unless Auburn came in late?? Going across the country to a program on the decline?

[bluelightstar]

Remind me why I'm wrong about Joe, again?

You aren’t

[ShotgunDawg]

Moorhead sucks ass.

Seriously, if This recruiting class ends how it looks like it will, he's on the hot seat to be fired next year unless there is massive improvement

[msstate7]

Oregon has to be buying players.

This kid is a homebody. Makes absolutely no sense for him to go there.

He's been looking for a better offer all along

[ShotgunDawg]

He's been looking for a better offer all along

They aren't a better offer.

That's the point.

[Coursesuper]

He's been looking for a better offer all along

Yep, State was a safety net.

[msstate7]

They aren't a better offer.

That's the point.

You should tell dj that

[maroonmania]

They aren't a better offer.

That's the point.

Well everyone knows what great defense is played at Oregon.****

[msstate7]

What a day! Let's finish this day off right... announce we've bypassed the state law and signed Moorhead for 10 years, 50 million buy out

[drummerdawg]

SDS article says he's visiting OM

[bluelightstar]

Curious to see who we hire after 2020**

[MetEdDawg]

They aren't a better offer.

That's the point.

If you don't think Oregon is a better offer then you don't understand the landscape of college football. They come in at 12th in the country in revenue with a profit of over $50 million. Their PROFIT on football is almost more than our REVENUE on football.

Fan base needs to wake the hell up and realize we are losing the money game and that's NOT Moorhead's fault.

[chef dixon]

I thought it was pretty obvious he was already gone

[CadaverDawg]

This is why 2018 was so important....that was probably the end of an era of MSU football we'll never see again. But at least we springboarded a bunch of Hofstra guys into coaching careers.

[msstate7]

If you don't think Oregon is a better offer then you don't understand the landscape of college football. They come in at 12th in the country in revenue with a profit of over $50 million. Their PROFIT on football is almost more than our REVENUE on football.

Fan base needs to wake the hell up and realize we are losing the money game and that's NOT Moorhead's fault.

You're consistent... nothing is Moorhead's fault

[ShotgunDawg]

If you don't think Oregon is a better offer then you don't understand the landscape of college football. They come in at 12th in the country in revenue with a profit of over $50 million. Their PROFIT on football is almost more than our REVENUE on football.

Fan base needs to wake the hell up and realize we are losing the money game and that's NOT Moorhead's fault.

PAC 12
Smaller stadium than us
And 2,000 miles from home.

That's not a better offer.

[Todd4State]

You should tell dj that

Thinking like this is why we don't recruit better.

[MetEdDawg]

You're consistent... nothing is Moorhead's fault

Incorrect. But again. This was said by multiple people for months he was looking for a better offer. If a kid says hey I want a better offer from a better university what the hell is Moorhead supposed to do?

Get on his knees and beg him to stay? I guess I'm not sure what you guys want us to do when a kid says I want to go to a better university?

[Bothrops]

Yep, State was a safety net.

If we were safety net U, it would be an upgrade.

[CadaverDawg]

You're consistent... nothing is Moorhead's fault

Yep

[Coursesuper]

You're consistent... nothing is Moorhead's fault

Your missing the point he is right and the money game is where we are taking an ass whipping. That's not n the coaching staff that's on our admin.

[CadaverDawg]

Incorrect. But again. This was said by multiple people for months he was looking for a better offer. If a kid says hey I want a better offer from a better university what the hell is Moorhead supposed to do?

Get on his knees and beg him to stay? I guess I'm not sure what you guys want us to do when a kid says I want to go to a better university?

Your defense of Joe has reached a weird place

[Dawgology]

This coaching hire was a total abortion. Moorhead and Cohen need to be run out.

[MetEdDawg]

Yep

Well you still haven't said what Moorhead is supposed to do when a kid openly is looking to go to a better university. Still not sure what Moorhead should do. Whip out his checkbook from his back pocket?

[Offshore Dawg]

If you don't think Oregon is a better offer then you don't understand the landscape of college football. They come in at 12th in the country in revenue with a profit of over $50 million. Their PROFIT on football is almost more than our REVENUE on football.

Fan base needs to wake the hell up and realize we are losing the money game and that's NOT Moorhead's fault.

Add in the "NIKE" money.

[msstate7]

Whether it's the coach's fault or not, landing or losing kids is his responsibly. If he doesn't want that responsibility, quit. Please quit

[Dawgology]

Well you still haven't said what Moorhead is supposed to do when a kid openly is looking to go to a better university. Still not sure what Moorhead should do. Whip out his checkbook from his back pocket?

You’re absolutely right. If a kid is looking to go somewhere else we shouldn’t even bother recruiting him.**********

[MetEdDawg]

Add in the "NIKE" money.

Don't you know??? This doesn't matter to our fans. It matters if you actually think for yourself unlike some on here. But to them we are way the hell better than we actually are.

Money apparently has no bearing on college football to our fan base which is why we stay stuck losing guys like DJ James.

[ShotgunDawg]

Well you still haven't said what Moorhead is supposed to do when a kid openly is looking to go to a better university. Still not sure what Moorhead should do. Whip out his checkbook from his back pocket?

He gets paid to figure that out. Not us.

MSU needs a big time coach to overcome this crap. I'm not saying Moorhead can't be successful at a blue blood but it's becoming clearer by the day that he's not the right guy for us.

[CadaverDawg]

Well you still haven't said what Moorhead is supposed to do when a kid openly is looking to go to a better university. Still not sure what Moorhead should do. Whip out his checkbook from his back pocket?

If we never could out recruit a program with more money...how have we finished top 25-30 in recruiting the last several years. Recruiting is selling your program...if you're a good salesperson you don't have to bribe every purchasee to buy your product.

[MetEdDawg]

You’re absolutely right. If a kid is looking to go somewhere else we shouldn’t even bother recruiting him.**********

When did I say that?? Never. But if you read, he's been looking for a committable offer from a more prestigious university for months.

But don't let facts get in the way of your bias.

[ShotgunDawg]

Whether it's the coach's fault or not, landing or losing kids is his responsibly. If he doesn't want that responsibility, quit. Please quit


This

[Dawgology]

Everything this past season plus what has happened in the past couple weeks with our coaches is giving me flashbacks is Templeton. Trying to pinch pennies and cut costs to the detriment of our program.

[Todd4State]

If we never could out recruit a program with more money...how have we finished top 25-30 in recruiting the last several years. Recruiting is selling your program...if you're a good salesperson you don't have to bribe every purchasee to buy your product.

Top 25-30 is middle of the pack when there are approximately 60 P5 schools.

[Irondawg]

I can’t believe nobody has brought up that Tbuck might be leaving to and that has to be weighed in

[MetEdDawg]

If we never could out recruit a program with more money...how have we finished top 25-30 in recruiting the last several years. Recruiting is selling your program...if you're a good salesperson you don't have to bribe every purchasee to buy your product.


Because not every kid cares about selling your damn program. Would make it easy if it did. But you tell me why a kid from Spanish Fort Alabama may end up at Oregon. I mean think about that. It's a $$$$ game, but our fan base is way too naive to understand that. It's way the hell easier to bitch and moan than open up your damn checkbook and pay the university.

[CadaverDawg]

Funny how baseball & hoops can recruit, but it's impossible for football to

[CadaverDawg]

Because not every kid cares about selling your damn program. Would make it easy if it did. But you tell me why a kid from Spanish Fort Alabama may end up at Oregon. I mean think about that. It's a $$$$ game, but our fan base is way too naive to understand that. It's way the hell easier to bitch and moan than open up your damn checkbook and pay the university.

Yawn. What do you think, Joe is going to give you a job if you keep making excuses for him? I don't get it

[Dawgology]

Well you still haven't said what Moorhead is supposed to do when a kid openly is looking to go to a better university. Still not sure what Moorhead should do. Whip out his checkbook from his back pocket?

You literally said it there. What is he as head coach supposed to do in that situation???!! Whatever the **** he has to. It’s his ******* job to keep players committed. It’s his ******* job to win games. It appears he can do neither with any regularity. That’s what he is ****ing supposed to do. That answer your question?

[CadaverDawg]

You literally said it there. What is he as head coach supposed to do in that situation???!! Whatever the **** he has to. It’s his ******* job to keep players committed. It’s his ******* job to win games. It appears he can do neither with any regularity. That’s what he is ****ing supposed to do. That answer your question?

This

[MetEdDawg]

Funny how baseball & hoops can recruit, but it's impossible for football to

Because in basketball we commit the $$$$. And baseball isn't really a money game when it comes to getting kids to go to a college. Although scholarship availability has some to do with it.

But the big money is in college football and we SUCK at that. We are at the bottom in SEC football revenue. But let's go on about our business and pretend like we are a top tier program making loads of money hand over fist.

[Todd4State]

When did I say that?? Never. But if you read, he's been looking for a committable offer from a more prestigious university for months.

But don't let facts get in the way of your bias.

You know that everything bad that happens is Joe's fault.**

If we finish strong people on here are going to point out how he lost DJ James.

IMO the real mistake was not going as hard after Raydarius Jones which may have put us in the game with Nakobe Dean. But that's not my decision to make.

[Dawgology]

Because not every kid cares about selling your damn program. Would make it easy if it did. But you tell me why a kid from Spanish Fort Alabama may end up at Oregon. I mean think about that. It's a $$$$ game, but our fan base is way too naive to understand that. It's way the hell easier to bitch and moan than open up your damn checkbook and pay the university.


Your argument makes zero sense. Kids don’t care about selling your program...so donate more money to your program....

[Todd4State]

Funny how baseball & hoops can recruit, but it's impossible for football to

Compare how we invest as a university in baseball and basketball compared to football and you'll answer your question as to our recruiting issues.

[msstate7]

Yawn. What do you think, Joe is going to give you a job if you keep making excuses for him? I don't get it

https://i.postimg.cc/j2dWf0fs/40-D031-E6-F408-46-EF-BCF1-B79552-C4-A616.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Pic of met after toting Moorhead's water all season. Gotta admit, met got jacked in the deal

[CadaverDawg]

Your argument makes zero sense. Kids don’t care about selling your program...so donate more money to your program....

He's spinning...and for what?

[MetEdDawg]

You literally said it there. What is he as head coach supposed to do in that situation???!! Whatever the **** he has to. It’s his ******* job to keep players committed. It’s his ******* job to win games. It appears he can do neither with any regularity. That’s what he is ****ing supposed to do. That answer your question?

So you blame Mullen too then? Because Mullen freaking blew at recruiting. Whatever he's supposed to do? That's laughable. This university has lost entirely too many recruits to this kind of stuff. You should freaking know that's not a Moorhead thing. We can't compete across the board with the big players.

I just don't get this guys. It's insanity to me. The city sucks. We have one of the lowest stadium capacities in the conference. We have the lowest revenue in conference. I'll make an argument we are recruiting well above what we should be.

[MetEdDawg]

Your argument makes zero sense. Kids don’t care about selling your program...so donate more money to your program....


When did I say kids don't care about selling your program?? Selective reading at its finest. I said NOT ALL kids care about that. Read or get out.

[BankerDog]

Funny how baseball & hoops can recruit, but it's impossible for football to

Because we?re a blue blood baseball school and our big money guys are more in tuned with basketball...

Football in the south is different, but I?m sure you know that because you have claimed you?re helping the cause.

[Todd4State]

Because in basketball we commit the $$$$. And baseball isn't really a money game when it comes to getting kids to go to a college. Although scholarship availability has some to do with it.

But the big money is in college football and we SUCK at that. We are at the bottom in SEC football revenue. But let's go on about our business and pretend like we are a top tier program making loads of money hand over fist.

And as I said in baseball we invest in it. We just did whatever it take to build a minor league stadium in Starkville, MS. We have pro and coaching connections and we hire people that are in with the latest trends in recruiting. That leads to winning. In football it's do we pay for Jeffrey Simmons or AJ Brown because we can't pay for both. It's let's not try for Cam Akers at all and just make up some BS about him not getting along with Kylin Hill.

[Bothrops]

PAC 12
Smaller stadium than us
And 2,000 miles from home.

That's not a better offer.

They probably put some ***** on him, the likes of which he's never seen. Plus their brand is tremendous, considering their amount of success.

[Dawgology]

So you blame Mullen too then? Because Mullen freaking blew at recruiting. Whatever he's supposed to do? That's laughable. This university has lost entirely too many recruits to this kind of stuff. You should freaking know that's not a Moorhead thing. We can't compete across the board with the big players.

I just don't get this guys. It's insanity to me. The city sucks. We have one of the lowest stadium capacities in the conference. We have the lowest revenue in conference. I'll make an argument we are recruiting well above what we should be.

Yes I do blame Mullen. I hated his recruiting and believe it has held us back. The “city sucks” is an old and tired excuse and doesn’t hold water.

[MetEdDawg]

And as I said in baseball we invest in it. We just did whatever it take to build a minor league stadium in Starkville, MS. We have pro and coaching connections and we hire people that are in with the latest trends in recruiting. That leads to winning. In football it's do we pay for Jeffrey Simmons or AJ Brown because we can't pay for both. It's let's not try for Cam Akers at all and just make up some BS about him not getting along with Kylin Hill.

Spot on Todd. Spot damn on. But the narrative is so much easier for folks because they and the university pay more for football so they expect more. What they don't realize is that everyone else is paying way the hell more than us.

You guys want to compete? We need to double ticket prices. Then we need to add about 15,000 more seats to Davis Wade. We need to be able to throw money around like we have an endless supply. We need coaches flying in with helicopters to high schools and we need these guys seeing MSU branding all the time. We need to be able to pay great coaches a crap ton of money.

[Todd4State]

Yes I do blame Mullen. I hated his recruiting and believe it has held us back. The “city sucks” is an old and tired excuse and doesn’t hold water.

You can't blame Moorhead for what he inherited.

[Bothrops]

Social media is MSU football's worst enemy.

[Pit Bull]

Decommitted per twitter. Looks like headed to Oregon. Keep it up coaches! Strong finish again***

Well it happens I suppose......I had predicted 2-3 would exit, but am afraid it might be more like 4-5 before it's over with. We were just a fall back for DJ. He never really wanted to come here and waited until a shinier program came into view. Oregon is it.....what a nice new shiny toy to tell his friends about.

[Dawgology]

When did I say kids don't care about selling your program?? Selective reading at its finest. I said NOT ALL kids care about that. Read or get out.

Not selective reading. Your just spinning on your own shit. You’re wrong here. You get out.

[MetEdDawg]

Yes I do blame Mullen. I hated his recruiting and believe it has held us back. The “city sucks” is an old and tired excuse and doesn’t hold water.

So after a decade of LITERALLY THE SAME SHIT don't you think maybe, just maybe, it's not a coach thing? Mullen seems to be recruiting just fine at Florida. If recruiting ended today Florida would finish tied for its highest recruiting ranking in the last 5 years. Florida may recruit itself but this year Mullen has them above where they've been.

[Pit Bull]

They aren't a better offer.

That's the point.

Better offer......hell, they offered a pair of fuzzy dice for his rearview and some shag carpet for his dashboard. What's not to like?

[Todd4State]

Spot on Todd. Spot damn on. But the narrative is so much easier for folks because they and the university pay more for football so they expect more. What they don't realize is that everyone else is paying way the hell more than us.

You guys want to compete? We need to double ticket prices. Then we need to add about 15,000 more seats to Davis Wade. We need to be able to throw money around like we have an endless supply. We need coaches flying in with helicopters to high schools and we need these guys seeing MSU branding all the time. We need to be able to pay great coaches a crap ton of money.

We simply need to find boosters that invest in football like we do in basketball. I'm not sure why we have so few to be honest with you? It has always puzzled me. We essentially have the same resources in terms of town, region, and stadium size as Ole Miss but they have the boosters to make a 2013 happen for them and they are willing to do it. We should be able to find boosters that can make that happen on a local level in Mississippi as opposed to the National level than Ole Miss did in 2013.

[Dawgology]

You can't blame Moorhead for what he inherited.


I think you are oversimplifying things here. This seasons recruiting (the topic at hand) can be blamed on him. I was responding to what Met said regarding that. On the topic you are alluding to I think Moorhead really underperformed with the talent he inherited. But that has been discussed as nauseum.

[MetEdDawg]

Not selective reading. Your just spinning on your own shit. You’re wrong here. You get out.

Go back, read the quote, and repost that shit. Selective reading 100%. Hadn't spun shit. You just don't like hearing the truth. We are behind by a lot in the stuff that really matters. Mullen closed the chasm, but it's still a pretty big gap. But again, I get the denial. It's tough to hear your university isn't up to par with others. I hate it. But if you go look at our history, we are overachieving right now.

[Coursesuper]

Yawn. What do you think, Joe is going to give you a job if you keep making excuses for him? I don't get it

Your both absolutely wrong, it's about bigwig boosters money period. Are you two,stupid enough to think that the sidewalk alumni buying Bammer tickets is paying for that program. Season tickets ain't paying for ours either, we don't have the kind of benefactors that those programs do. Recruiting is all about how it's laid out and the presentation Oregon and the Bammers can out spend us 10 times over 10 times.

This is where y'all need to catch up. We are getting our ass handed to us in the way the game is played. We are to inbred and busy backbiting each other jockeying for,the best seat in the football stadium and at the baseball field that we have lost focus and have been left in the dust.

This is going to ruffle feathers here but it's the truth. We shot our wad with a lot of givers on the baseball stadium. That money could have been used to fund many different things but it can't now and a lot of those guys aren't going to give that much very often. Now that could be the game we are playing, use football to fund the other sports and try to compete nationally in non revenue sports.

[Dawgology]

So after a decade of LITERALLY THE SAME SHIT don't you think maybe, just maybe, it's not a coach thing? Mullen seems to be recruiting just fine at Florida. If recruiting ended today Florida would finish tied for its highest recruiting ranking in the last 5 years. Florida may recruit itself but this year Mullen has them above where they've been.


Damn you are really good at shifting the narrative. Go ahead and love you some Moorhead. We will talk in 2 seasons during the coaching search.

[Dawgology]

Go back, read the quote, and repost that shit. Selective reading 100%. Hadn't spun shit. You just don't like hearing the truth. We are behind by a lot in the stuff that really matters. Mullen closed the chasm, but it's still a pretty big gap. But again, I get the denial. It's tough to hear your university isn't up to par with others. I hate it. But if you go look at our history, we are overachieving right now.

You’re right we shouldn’t expect more, demand more, or be upset when things negative happen in recruiting or with our program. Keep on keeping on.

[Dawgology]

Your both absolutely wrong, it's about bigwig boosters money period. Are you two,stupid enough to think that the sidewalk alumni buying Bammer tickets is paying for that program. Season tickets ain't paying for ours either, we don't have the kind of benefactors that those programs do. Recruiting is all about how it's laid out and the presentation Oregon and the Bammers can out spend us 10 times over 10 times.

This is where y'all need to catch up. We are getting our ass handed to us in the way the game is played. We are to inbred and busy backbiting each other jockeying for,the best seat in the football stadium and at the baseball field that we have lost focus and have been left in the dust.

This is going to ruffle feathers here but it's the truth. We shot our wad with a lot of givers on the baseball stadium. That money could have been used to fund many different things but it can't now and a lot of those guys aren't going to give that much very often. Now that could be the game we are playing, use football to fund the other sports and try to compete nationally in non revenue sports.

Unfortunately, that is the State of Mississippi in general.

[BankerDog]

Your both absolutely wrong, it's about bigwig boosters money period. Are you two,stupid enough to think that the sidewalk alumni buying Bammer tickets is paying for that program. Season tickets ain't paying for ours either, we don't have the kind of benefactors that those programs do. Recruiting is all about how it's laid out and the presentation Oregon and the Bammers can out spend us 10 times over 10 times.

This is where y'all need to catch up. We are getting our ass handed to us in the way the game is played. We are to inbred and busy backbiting each other jockeying for,the best seat in the football stadium and at the baseball field that we have lost focus and have been left in the dust.

This is going to ruffle feathers here but it's the truth. We shot our wad with a lot of givers on the baseball stadium. That money could have been used to fund many different things but it can't now and a lot of those guys aren't going to give that much very often. Now that could be the game we are playing, use football to fund the other sports and try to compete nationally in non revenue sports.

You get it. Half the guys moaning here have never donated a penny to the cause. So they?re trying to tell the money guys how to spend their money. It?s laughable man.

Oregon isn?t a better program? Have you ever heard of Uncle Phil Knight? Our biggest booster isn?t a Uncle Phil Knight if you took 50% of Knight?s net worth away.

[MetEdDawg]

You’re right we shouldn’t expect more, demand more, or be upset when things negative happen in recruiting or with our program. Keep on keeping on.

Demand more yes. But if you give me $10,000 and ask me to buy you a new Lexus your ass can demand more all you want. Your ass isn't going to get a new Lexus.

[Percho]

Whether it's the coach's fault or not, landing or losing kids is his responsibly. If he doesn't want that responsibility, quit. Please quit

Who do you want to bring in to land them? Freeze?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Social media is MSU football's worst enemy.

Yea just Mississippi State...lol smh

[whosyourdawgy]

DJ has been gone since he decommitted. How is this a surprise to anyone. All of you ?the end of the world? people kill me. Good lord. We still have a long way to go til signing day. Losing a 3 star cb that didn?t want to play here is not the end of the damn world. Let him go to Oregon so he can hit the transfer portal in a couple years. See ya

[Coursesuper]

Unfortunately, that is the State of Mississippi in general.

There in lies the issue now doesn't it. Truly amazing.

[CadaverDawg]

Ok, sorry...I didn't realize we had to have top 5 money to get a 3 Star kid from Bama that they nor Auburn wanted. Guess my expectations are too high.

[BankerDog]

Who do you want to bring in to land them? Freeze?

No he wanted Chad Morris to come in and run the Air Raid with Fitz slinging it. Or was it Pruitt who would run a pro spread system with Fitz.

Laughable.

[KOdawg1]

DJ has been gone since he decommitted. How is this a surprise to anyone. All of you ?the end of the world? people kill me. Good lord. We still have a long way to go til signing day. Losing a 3 star cb that didn?t want to play here is not the end of the damn world. Let him go to Oregon so he can hit the transfer portal in a couple years. See ya

Nah, losing one 3 star CB doesn't hurt that much. But what about losing 3 of them? Two months ago, our CB commits were James, Emerson, and Brooks.

James- Oregon
Emerson - Miami (soon to be)
Brooks - Arky

[Gutter Cobreh]

Just so I'm clear, all this melting is over a 3* cornerback? Not a 5 or 4 star, but a 3 (based on 247).

I'm not implying that the kid doesn't have talent; just wanted to validate why all the naysayers have popped onto the board tonight to share their wisdom.

[CadaverDawg]

Just so I'm clear, all this melting is over a 3* cornerback? Not a 5 or 4 star, but a 3 (based on 247).

I'm not implying that the kid doesn't have talent; just wanted to validate why all the naysayers have popped onto the board tonight to share their wisdom.

See the post above yours. We've lost all of our CB commits. All of them

[KOdawg1]

Just so I'm clear, all this melting is over a 3* cornerback? Not a 5 or 4 star, but a 3 (based on 247).

I'm not implying that the kid doesn't have talent; just wanted to validate why all the naysayers have popped onto the board tonight to share their wisdom.

See my post above. We've lost all three of our CBs. That's not good.

[msstate7]

Just so I'm clear, all this melting is over a 3* cornerback? Not a 5 or 4 star, but a 3 (based on 247).

I'm not implying that the kid doesn't have talent; just wanted to validate why all the naysayers have popped onto the board tonight to share their wisdom.
Who we gonna line up at cb?

[Percho]

We simply need to find boosters that invest in football like we do in basketball. I'm not sure why we have so few to be honest with you? It has always puzzled me. We essentially have the same resources in terms of town, region, and stadium size as Ole Miss but they have the boosters to make a 2013 happen for them and they are willing to do it. We should be able to find boosters that can make that happen on a local level in Mississippi as opposed to the National level than Ole Miss did in 2013.

What happened the last time we did that?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Ok, sorry...I didn't realize we had to have top 5 money to get a 3 Star kid from Bama that they nor Auburn wanted. Guess my expectations are too high.

We don't have Oregon money, no. But I don't think DJ wanted us at all so it's probably not money. maybe he just wanted a party town or a place he thinks he will get a Natty at, but I doubt money was his hold up

[Todd4State]

Nah, losing one 3 star CB doesn't hurt that much. But what about losing 3 of them? Two months ago, our CB commits were James, Emerson, and Brooks.

James- Oregon
Emerson - Miami (soon to be)
Brooks - Arky

We're keeping Jarrian Jones who is a 4 star and will probably start out at CB. We're also moving Marcus Murphy to CB and then we have Jaylon Reed, Esias Furdge, and Tyler Williams who were all freshmen this year and they may figure in as well or be converted to safety or a hybrid role. So we're OK for now.

[Todd4State]

What happened the last time we did that?

We do that some now and you probably don't know about it or realize it. We need to do it on a larger level in state.

[KOdawg1]

We're keeping Jarrian Jones who is a 4 star and will probably start out at CB. We're also moving Marcus Murphy to CB and then we have Jaylon Reed, Esias Furdge, and Tyler Williams who were all freshmen this year and they may figure in as well or be converted to safety or a hybrid role. So we're OK for now.

For now. 2 years from now, not so much. I just don't see MM as a CB. I think he's a safety all the way.

[Bothrops]

Jarrian Jones will be a CB most definitely. We are ok, until we run out of SEC guys on the roster. I'm not sure we can recruit guys that would hold the only spots on the roster at CB lol

[Todd4State]

For now. 2 years from now, not so much. I just don't see MM as a CB. I think he's a safety all the way.

All of those players are freshmen in 2019 except for Williams who is a RS sophomore and Murphy who is a sophomore and will likely be here two years from now. We just moved Murphy to CB from safety so unless he looks really bad at CB I doubt we move him back to safety.


I think the mistake we actually make is focusing on out of state kids when there is adequate in state talent that is just as good.

[Coursesuper]

We simply need to find boosters that invest in football like we do in basketball. I'm not sure why we have so few to be honest with you? It has always puzzled me. We essentially have the same resources in terms of town, region, and stadium size as Ole Miss but they have the boosters to make a 2013 happen for them and they are willing to do it. We should be able to find boosters that can make that happen on a local level in Mississippi as opposed to the National level than Ole Miss did in 2013.

You do realize that basketball is basically funded by one booster and has been for quite some time. He is the one who called Stricklin's bluff and got rid of Ray and hired Howland.

[msstate7]

Currently 10th in the sec. We have a historic level of talent in the state this year and supposedly hired recruiting aces, yet here we are.

[Percho]

What is a 3 star cb worth, on the open market?

[Gutter Cobreh]

See the post above yours. We've lost all of our CB commits. All of them

See the kid's announcement; he decommitted from the University of Mississippi State. Can we coach someone that doesn't even know the name of the damn school? I'm more pissed about that then I am him going somewhere else.

[Todd4State]

You do realize that basketball is basically funded by one booster and has been for quite some time. He is the one who called Stricklin's bluff and got rid of Ray and hired Howland.

That's true but he invests in it heavily and as he sees fit. Which is my point.

[Dawg61]

this thread

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZsU2M7RU4vZTsys/giphy.gif

[Homedawg]

Nah, losing one 3 star CB doesn't hurt that much. But what about losing 3 of them? Two months ago, our CB commits were James, Emerson, and Brooks.

James- Oregon
Emerson - Miami (soon to be)
Brooks - Arky

To go with a less than stellar cb class last year. We are close to naked at that spot.

[Coursesuper]

That's true but he invests in it heavily and as he sees fit. Which is my point.

My point is he can handle basketball and one or a few of our boosters can handle a basketball program. Football today is a different story it takes billionaires or very well oiled machines ( IPTAY ) to fund these programs. Sadly we don't have those nor do we have the willingness to pull the same direction all the time.

[Doggie_Style]

Who we gonna line up at cb?

I bet Lee Witherspoon ends up at CB....so who lines up at RB in 2020?

[Homedawg]

Currently 10th in the sec. We have a historic level of talent in the state this year and supposedly hired recruiting aces, yet here we are.


As I said 2 weeks ago, we would be hard pressed to finish above top 25. Top 20 was very unlikely, I was called crazy. And I'll say it again, This staff recruits way harder, the results will be similar

[Homedawg]

You can't blame Moorhead for what he inherited.

Can we blame him on our cb's in 2 years? Asking for a friend......

[msstate7]

Can we blame him on our cb's in 2 years? Asking for a friend......

Yes bc he'll be gone by then... everything is the previous coach's fault**

[Homedawg]

We simply need to find boosters that invest in football like we do in basketball. I'm not sure why we have so few to be honest with you? It has always puzzled me. We essentially have the same resources in terms of town, region, and stadium size as Ole Miss but they have the boosters to make a 2013 happen for them and they are willing to do it. We should be able to find boosters that can make that happen on a local level in Mississippi as opposed to the National level than Ole Miss did in 2013.

So we can count you in???

[Gutter Cobreh]

Can we blame him on our cb's in 2 years? Asking for a friend......

If we could get some 8th graders committed like we do in baseball, it'll all work itself out. Gotta recruitem while they're young!

[whosyourdawgy]

Currently 10th in the sec. We have a historic level of talent in the state this year and supposedly hired recruiting aces, yet here we are.

Agreed. In state was huge this year. And we’ve signed 3 of the 4 stars already and a good chance to sign from one to six more of them. We lost 3 out of state 3 star cornerbacks. I’m not too concerned about that just yet. We’ve got plenty of action left to go in this recruiting season and already have 14 damn good ones signed or on campus. All of you jumping off the ledge are hilarious to me.

[msstate7]

Agreed. In state was huge this year. And we’ve signed 3 of the 4 stars already and a good chance to sign from one to six more of them. We lost 3 out of state 3 star cornerbacks. I’m not too concerned about that just yet. We’ve got plenty of action left to go in this recruiting season and already have 14 damn good ones signed or on campus. All of you jumping off the ledge are hilarious to me.

I jumped earlier (saints' game). I'm posting on the way down... tall building lol

[Homedawg]

If we could get some 8th graders committed like we do in baseball, it'll all work itself out. Gotta recruitem while they're young!

While you are being a smart ass, I'm ok with it, if they will at least sign with us I'd be happy, start for two years I'd be estatic. Have a game winning play in the final 8 go crazy. But considering you and dawg 61 can't comprehend the difference, keep giving tips of how not to do it.

[Homedawg]

Agreed. In state was huge this year. And we’ve signed 3 of the 4 stars already and a good chance to sign from one to six more of them. We lost 3 out of state 3 star cornerbacks. I’m not too concerned about that just yet. We’ve got plenty of action left to go in this recruiting season and already have 14 damn good ones signed or on campus. All of you jumping off the ledge are hilarious to me.

Have you looked at our cornerback depth chart??? Obviously not.

[Irondawg]

We simply need to find boosters that invest in football like we do in basketball. I'm not sure why we have so few to be honest with you? It has always puzzled me. We essentially have the same resources in terms of town, region, and stadium size as Ole Miss but they have the boosters to make a 2013 happen for them and they are willing to do it. We should be able to find boosters that can make that happen on a local level in Mississippi as opposed to the National level than Ole Miss did in 2013.

Basketball is Addidas helping out more than boosters

[RezDog7]

Remind me why I'm wrong about Joe, again?

You should start cheering for Bama, Clemson or the Patriots.

[Coursesuper]

[QUOTE=Irondawg;1058772]Basketball is Addidas helping out more than boosters[/QUOTE

They are not our programs largest benefactor.

[Bothrops]

I bet Lee Witherspoon ends up at CB....so who lines up at RB in 2020?

No telling, probably a juco.

[MarketingBully]

Did James commit to Oregon or just decommit from us? If he just decommitted from us, it will still stay the same. He will sign with us unless an Auburn offer late. No way his family lets him sign up there. Too far away for them to see him.

[Homedawg]

Did James commit to Oregon or just decommit from us? If he just decommitted from us, it will still stay the same. He will sign with us unless an Auburn offer late. No way his family lets him sign up there. Too far away for them to see him.

Does it matter? Until signing day nothing matters in that regard. He is a must in our class period.

[whosyourdawgy]

Have you looked at our cornerback depth chart??? Obviously not.

2020 season cornerbacks returning
1 Sr
4 Jr
3 RFr/Soph
Jarrian Jones could play CB, Safety, or WR


2020 season safety's returning
2 Sr
1 Jr
6 RFr/Soph
1 Juco
1 true Fresh

We’ve got 2 of the best cb’s in the SEC coming back for next season. Safety is more of the concern to me and we are bringing in a damn good juco there. Murphy could very well move to CB if needed. So for the next 2 seasons we have decent numbers there. We will Be young but talent is there. This recruiting cycle isn’t over yet either. All 3 cb’s we supposedl lost were out of state guys not recruited hard by their in state schools. Would’ve loved to sign them but if they don’t want to be here frankly screw them. Have fun wherever you go

[whosyourdawgy]

Does it matter? Until signing day nothing matters in that regard. He is a must in our class period.

So you’re saying DJ is a cant miss prospect then?

[Coursesuper]

So you’re saying DJ is a cant miss prospect then?

He can really play, he played in a very good league in high school and did very well in the all star practices and game. He will be a big miss.

[Cooterpoot]

You should start cheering for Bama, Clemson or the Patriots.

That’s a pipedream.

[whosyourdawgy]

He can really play, he played in a very good league in high school and did very well in the all star practices and game. He will be a big miss.

Well i guess we?d better hope mom wants him closer to home then and makes him go to a school he doesn?t want to go to.

[BankerDog]

The football that is played here in Mobile and on the Eastern Shore is better than anything MS has to offer; and I played at one of the bigger 6A schools in the state of MS.

[Coursesuper]

The football that is played here in Mobile and on the Eastern Shore is better than anything MS has to offer; and I played at one of the bigger 6A schools in the state of MS.

Yes it is, Baldwin county and the Panhandle area is excellent high school football and baseball.

[BankerDog]

Yes it is, Baldwin county and the Panhandle area is excellent high school football and baseball.

I moved down here not long ago and was amazed at the talent that is down here at all schools. We've wasted a lot of time not expanding our brand this way, but we are slowly changing that. That's why I have been a big Joey Jones supporter; he is loved by all the coaches down here and we need that.

[Coursesuper]

I moved down here not long ago and was amazed at the talent that is down here at all schools. We've wasted a lot of time not expanding our brand this way, but we are slowly changing that. That's why I have been a big Joey Jones supporter; he is loved by all the coaches down here and we need that.

It's stil lower Alabama all the way to Panama City. That's a tough row to hoe.

[Todd4State]

Can we blame him on our cb's in 2 years? Asking for a friend......

Absolutely. Not sure why you would think I would hold him to a double standard than Dan. And for the record I gave Dan three years before I complained about him too. You can go back to sixpack and look for yourself if you want to waste your time.

[Todd4State]

So we can count you in???

If I had the money I absolutely would help.

[Todd4State]

Have you looked at our cornerback depth chart??? Obviously not.

We know. You think all of our players suck outside of Jeffrey Simmons. You can tell the NFL scouts all about Jamal Peters while he is working out at the NFL combine. And don't give me the "I said he would never be a cover corner in the NFL" BS after you stated for years that he shouldn't even start for us.

Our CB depth chart isn't bad- Dantzler and Smitherman and then we have two four star players and three former three star recruits.

[Todd4State]

2020 season cornerbacks returning
1 Sr
4 Jr
3 RFr/Soph
Jarrian Jones could play CB, Safety, or WR


2020 season safety's returning
2 Sr
1 Jr
6 RFr/Soph
1 Juco
1 true Fresh

We?ve got 2 of the best cb?s in the SEC coming back for next season. Safety is more of the concern to me and we are bringing in a damn good juco there. Murphy could very well move to CB if needed. So for the next 2 seasons we have decent numbers there. We will Be young but talent is there. This recruiting cycle isn?t over yet either. All 3 cb?s we supposedl lost were out of state guys not recruited hard by their in state schools. Would?ve loved to sign them but if they don?t want to be here frankly screw them. Have fun wherever you go

I agree with you about safety. I'm much more concerned about that spot than I am CB for the future. Javious Purvis could end up there and I think he is very underrated. I like Shawn Preston and Landon Guidry as well. And as I said we could move some of the excess CB's to safety if we need to. There is at least one 2020 in state recruit that is a safety prospect as well but he also may end up at LB.

[bluelightstar]

Committed to Oregon

[CadaverDawg]

You should start cheering for Bama, Clemson or the Patriots.

No shit

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

They probably put some ***** on him, the likes of which he's never seen.

Have you seen their cheerleaders?

[Homedawg]

We know. You think all of our players suck outside of Jeffrey Simmons. You can tell the NFL scouts all about Jamal Peters while he is working out at the NFL combine. And don't give me the "I said he would never be a cover corner in the NFL" BS after you stated for years that he shouldn't even start for us.

Our CB depth chart isn't bad- Dantzler and Smitherman and then we have two four star players and three former three star recruits.

I'm not concerned about dantzlet and smitherman, they are fine, it's the one behind them that will be our starters after them in worries about. And they don't give me the warm and fuzzies. As for the Simmons remark, totally false. We had a lot of good players on both sides. Numerous nfl guys. Joe mo just f it up. And for peters, again I didn't know he'd made a roster yet. I hope he does. He's gonna have a good combine but he's not a cover corner in the nfl.
ETA, I never said he should t start, just said he was t that good.

[Homedawg]

If I had the money I absolutely would help.

Haha. Fair enough

[BuckyIsAB****]

The football that is played here in Mobile and on the Eastern Shore is better than anything MS has to offer; and I played at one of the bigger 6A schools in the state of MS.

Ha

[BankerDog]

Ha

Brandon wouldn?t have stood a chance against Spanish Fort, Daphne, McGill, UMS Wright, or Saraland. I know you coach at Brandon and all, but it?s a different level down here. Multiple teams with multiple SEC athletes and linemen.

[Coursesuper]

Ha

I’ve never understood why y’all in the metro Jackson feel your all that. You have 1 state champ from Pearl in the recent past.

[BankerDog]

I’ve never understood why y’all in the metro Jackson feel your all that. You have 1 state champ from Pearl in the recent past.

He also coaches in a not so strong division in 6A. It?s the same teams every year, Brandon, Pearl, and Oak Grove. Oak Grove finally put it all together this year because every other year they?re overrated.