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jwells
01-15-2019, 10:47 AM
Florida (9-6, 1-2 SEC) at #24 Mississippi State (12-3, 0-2 SEC)
Tip: 6:00 PM CT TV: SEC Network

Both teams look to jump start their seasons after tough starts to SEC play.

Florida Team Stats

Points per game: 69.7 MSU: 80.1
Points per game allowed: 61.2 MSU: 69.0
FG%: 42.6% MSU: 47.9%
FG% Allowed: 39.9% MSU: 42.8%
3P%: 34.4% MSU: 38.0%
3P% Allowed: 30.3% MSU: 34.4%

Florida Team Leaders

Noah Locke (Fr.): 10.4 ppg
KeVaughn Allen (Sr.): 11.3 ppg
Kevarrius Hayes (Sr.): 6.8 ppg, 6.0 rpg

Florida is having trouble scoring the basketball so far in SEC play . Crazy enough, their only win so far in league play over Arkansas was their lowest output of 57 (57-51). They are led by freshman Noah Locke and senior KeVaughn Allen who lead the points per game average by nearly 8 points in conference play. They will be very similar to Ole Miss in that they will move the ball in an attempt to get a lot of clean look from 3. The Gators are averaging a 3-point attempt on 45% of their shots so look for that to continue. Also, in the past few games, they have tended to go with a smaller, more athletic lineup similar to the one we saw cause us so much trouble Saturday. It will be imperative we improve our perimeter defense with whoever is on the floor and Coach Howland plays the matchups to give us the best chance to win. Players to watch at the 4 position tonight would be Keith Stone and Jalen Hudson. Both have struggled to start SEC play but as we have seen this could change very quickly if they see the ball go through the net a couple of times.

On the Mississippi State side of things, the Bulldogs will be going up against a team that has played good defense this season. The Gators are holding their opponents well below what the Bulldogs are averaging in nearly every statistical category. A key for the Bulldogs will be to have an attention to detail in their execution to limit turnovers and let the offense come to them. Against Ole Miss when the Rebels switched to their 1-3-1 half court trap early in the game, Mississippi State looked very prepared and picked it apart very well. However, when the Rebels switched out of it back to man, the execution level dropped and they were unable to adapt as well. The Bulldogs (PG Lamar Peters specifically) need to relax and establish some structure on offense that will lead to open shots and a higher percentage shooting the ball. The back cuts were also very effective at times with penetration and I think it is something Mississippi State does well when they are focused.

Overall, Florida is playing almost exactly to the averages Mississippi State has allowed in defensive categories. If Mississippi State will get back to the defensive level it had at the end of last season and some of this season, the Gators should have trouble getting the offense going and it should be a good opportunity get a win. However, if the defensive effort does not improve, it could be a long game and a struggle to the end. I hope Coach Howland will get the freshmen Perry and Woodard some additional minutes as they played well the other day and the matchup today I think lends itself to their styles of play. I am 0-2 on predictions so I will stay out of it, but I do think it is a good chance to get the train back on the tracks.

Scared_Hitless
01-15-2019, 11:22 AM
Must Win no excuses.

jwells
01-15-2019, 11:25 AM
Must Win no excuses.

No doubt. We don't win tonight, it gets very hard to keep it from getting too far gone with the schedule we have coming up.

louisvilledawg
01-15-2019, 11:55 AM
I swear to God jwells, if we lose tonight, you better be banned by midnight.

we are now 0-2 after jwells write-ups.

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 11:58 AM
0-3 here we come.

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 11:59 AM
Can we get some Vcash lines for which Florida player will have a career game tonight? We seem to allow one every conference game under Howland.

jwells
01-15-2019, 12:00 PM
I swear to God jwells, if we lose tonight, you better be banned by midnight.

we are now 0-2 after jwells write-ups.

Don't believe in that stuff but I will 100% not do one for Saturday if we lose tonight. Have to change something up and I definitely have noticed our performance since I started. Sorry to do this to everyone*

DawgInMemphis
01-15-2019, 12:05 PM
Keith Stone??

https://media1.fdncms.com/clevescene/imager/keith-stone-arrested-for-dui-after-driving-into-a-house/u/original/3630730/1376400885-keith-stone.jpg

Dawg2003
01-15-2019, 12:24 PM
Man, those statistics highlight how crummy our defense is.

louisvilledawg
01-15-2019, 12:26 PM
Don't believe in that stuff but I will 100% not do one for Saturday if we lose tonight. Have to change something up and I definitely have noticed our performance since I started. Sorry to do this to everyone*

I'm kidding! I don't believe in that stuff either!

But for real, if we lose, please don't do another one.

jwells
01-15-2019, 12:28 PM
I'm kidding! I don't believe in that stuff either!

But for real, if we lose, please don't do another one.

Ha! You sound just like me.

Gutter Cobreh
01-15-2019, 12:41 PM
I swear to God jwells, if we lose tonight, you better be banned by midnight.

we are now 0-2 after jwells write-ups.

I second this motion...


Can we get some Vcash lines for which Florida player will have a career game tonight? We seem to allow one every conference game under Howland.

Whoever Holman is assigned to cover is where my fake cash would be placed...


God, I hate watching us play basketball. I hate watching basketball in it's current state regardless, but the college game + our inability to execute at times makes it not fun to say the least.

Political Hack
01-15-2019, 01:49 PM
Keep it coming. Even if we're terrible, we need to know why.

I wonder where 45% of shots being 3's ranks? That's insanely high to me.

jwells
01-15-2019, 01:56 PM
Keep it coming. Even if we're terrible, we need to know why.

I wonder where 45% of shots being 3's ranks? That's insanely high to me.

I will take a look at it in comparison to the SEC if I get some time this afternoon. It is high but it is directly related to your post offensive production. Florida's post players are essentially all scoring at about the rate of Ado. Between us, Florida, and Ole Miss there is not a lot of points to be had in the paint so we all jack it up.

louisvilledawg
01-15-2019, 03:23 PM
Keep it coming. Even if we're terrible, we need to know why.

I wonder where 45% of shots being 3's ranks? That's insanely high to me.

I love how I can work in excel all day and function in it without hitches, but I can't figure out how to upload a picture of the spreadsheet to ED. it won't recognize my jpg, jpeg, or png files.

Anyway, I #didthemath and these are the percentages of 3s taken out of overall FGA:

Auburn: 45.81%
Florida: 44.35%
Mizzou: 41.67%
Vandy: 41.33%
MSU: 40.95%
Arky: 37.38%
UM: 37.25%
Bama: 36.72%
UGA: 36.37%
LSU: 36.07%
USCe: 35.05%
aTm: 34.67%
UT: 32.00%
UK: 30.97%

jwells
01-15-2019, 03:35 PM
I love how I can work in excel all day and function in it without hitches, but I can't figure out how to upload a picture of the spreadsheet to ED. it won't recognize my jpg, jpeg, or png files.

Anyway, I #didthemath and these are the percentages of 3s taken out of overall FGA:

Auburn: 45.81%
Florida: 44.35%
Mizzou: 41.67%
Vandy: 41.33%
MSU: 40.95%
Arky: 37.38%
UM: 37.25%
Bama: 36.72%
UGA: 36.37%
LSU: 36.07%
USCe: 35.05%
aTm: 34.67%
UT: 32.00%
UK: 30.97%

That pretty much goes how you would think it should based on style. We better be ready for a barrage.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 04:57 PM
Guys, how about this. Jwells continues to do his write ups but we don’t use this as the game thread. Msstate7, start a game thread and everyone wins.

jwells
01-15-2019, 05:07 PM
Guys, how about this. Jwells continues to do his write ups but we don’t use this as the game thread. Msstate7, start a game thread and everyone wins.

I'm up for whatever but I knew louisvilledawg was joking bc I had thought the same thing about the bad mojo since I started. Not sure about Gutter Cobreh, he may have been serious.

Commercecomet24
01-15-2019, 05:15 PM
Don't believe in that stuff but I will 100% not do one for Saturday if we lose tonight. Have to change something up and I definitely have noticed our performance since I started. Sorry to do this to everyone*

Yeah man it's all your fault******

jwells
01-15-2019, 05:18 PM
Yeah man it's all your fault******

My effort and intensity in writing just hasn't been what it needs to be to win the last couple of games***

Doggie_Style
01-15-2019, 05:45 PM
My effort and intensity in writing just hasn't been what it needs to be to win the last couple of games***

Yep...I noticed that your participles are dangling!

msbulldog
01-15-2019, 06:57 PM
My brother just called from The Hump and said it was less than 1/3 full.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:02 PM
Holman not starting. Woodard in

Dawg2003
01-15-2019, 07:02 PM
Did Woodard start over Holman?

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:04 PM
Did Woodard start over Holman?

Yep. Bout time howland actually sends a message about defense

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:06 PM
Woodard all over his man

RocketDawg
01-15-2019, 07:06 PM
At least Florida's not making every shot they throw up.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:07 PM
At least Florida's not making every shot they throw up.

They've got some really good looks though. Can't leave them open like that

RocketDawg
01-15-2019, 07:08 PM
My brother just called from The Hump and said it was less than 1/3 full.

It looked OK in the "endzone" when they were showing Peters shooting free throws, but not many at all on the lower level sidelines. They never show the upper level, and it's so dark you can't see much there anyway. Part of that is the maroon seats.

RocketDawg
01-15-2019, 07:09 PM
Looks like Howland joined the Mafia with that suit he's wearing.

Pit Bull
01-15-2019, 07:13 PM
My brother just called from The Hump and said it was less than 1/3 full.

On tv it looks like I could count them on one hand.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:15 PM
Perry is coming along nicely

RocketDawg
01-15-2019, 07:16 PM
Are the students on the Starkvegas end or the Hump end? Or do they even have any lower level seats?

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 07:18 PM
Are the students on the Starkvegas end or the Hump end? Or do they even have any lower level seats?

That is where the students are.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:18 PM
Why is this the game thread?

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:18 PM
Holman comes in and Florida goes on run

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:20 PM
Holman comes in and Florida goes on run

This really is bad mojo as the game thread. Msstate7, why didn’t you start something. This team hasn’t looked the same since we used this as the game thread.

Scared_Hitless
01-15-2019, 07:20 PM
This team is so hard to watch

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:21 PM
This really is bad mojo as the game thread. Msstate7, why didn’t you start something. This team hasn’t looked the same since we used this as the game thread.

Giving newbie another shot. If we lose this one, I'll start a b*tch game thread Saturday lol

ScoobaDawg
01-15-2019, 07:21 PM
I swear to God jwells, if we lose tonight, you better be banned by midnight.

we are now 0-2 after jwells write-ups.

If we lose. He's banned till we win.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:22 PM
Great look, Q

ScoobaDawg
01-15-2019, 07:23 PM
I love how I can work in excel all day and function in it without hitches, but I can't figure out how to upload a picture of the spreadsheet to ED. it won't recognize my jpg, jpeg, or png files.

Anyway, I #didthemath and these are the percentages of 3s taken out of overall FGA:

Auburn: 45.81%
Florida: 44.35%
Mizzou: 41.67%
Vandy: 41.33%
MSU: 40.95%
Arky: 37.38%
UM: 37.25%
Bama: 36.72%
UGA: 36.37%
LSU: 36.07%
USCe: 35.05%
aTm: 34.67%
UT: 32.00%
UK: 30.97%

I hear there is an idiots guide to posting things somewhere..

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 07:23 PM
Terrible effort when Holman is in.

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 07:25 PM
The ten second call is absolutely inexcusable.

RocketDawg
01-15-2019, 07:25 PM
Carter's pretty hot right now.

ScoobaDawg
01-15-2019, 07:26 PM
Why is this the game thread?

Because. It is.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:26 PM
I don't know how to fix it, but our defense is just bad. Florida gets a good look every possession

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 07:26 PM
And why the f*ck are we loafing down the court.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:28 PM
Seriously if peter sirmon coached basketball defense, it would look like ours

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 07:28 PM
I?m close to being done with this team. Should be leading by double digits.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:28 PM
I don't know how to fix it, but our defense is just bad. Florida gets a good look every possession

Same way OM got good looks. We have 3 guards 2 bigs going against 4 guards and 1 big and STILL give up offensive rebounds. I’d just play Woodard at the 4 and Perry at the 5 and we’d be okay.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:29 PM
Seriously if peter sirmon coached basketball defense, it would look like ours

They have 4 out and 1 in and Howland is still trying to play 2 bigs with that.

Saltydog
01-15-2019, 07:30 PM
thereof, is all I can think of.

Red Sox Dawg
01-15-2019, 07:31 PM
Get Holman out.

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 07:31 PM
Holman needs a clipboard.

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 07:31 PM
We are regressing on defense. There is no way anyone can say we are putting forth much effort on defense. Howland needs to let a few of our "stars" watch from the bench for a while.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:31 PM
Finally make a defensive play and throw the ball away

RocketDawg
01-15-2019, 07:31 PM
Well, at least the game will be over by the time Project Blue Book comes on.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:31 PM
Get Holman out

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:32 PM
This should never be the game thread ever again.

Red Sox Dawg
01-15-2019, 07:32 PM
Holman makes everyone worse

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:33 PM
Holman

Red Sox Dawg
01-15-2019, 07:34 PM
How many offensive rebounds does Florida have

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:34 PM
Two bigs in the game and still giving a lot of offensive rebounds. Wow.

Dawg2003
01-15-2019, 07:34 PM
It's sad when the commentators notice the lack of energy.

Dawgology
01-15-2019, 07:34 PM
We have NO IDeA how to play defense rebound. This is just sad. We look completely unprepared to play college basketball.

Dawgcap
01-15-2019, 07:36 PM
I remember the excitement I had whenthe 3 point line came to college basketball. Damn I miss the days of big guys in the post and shots in the 10-15 ft range. 3s or dunks all we have now

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 07:36 PM
If this team would play with consistent real effort on the defensive end it could be a decent team. By decent I mean one that could get in as a 6-7-8 seed. I think that's the limit.

Red Sox Dawg
01-15-2019, 07:37 PM
Peters is hot

Red Sox Dawg
01-15-2019, 07:39 PM
Q and Holman need to sit

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:39 PM
Q playing ****ing selfish.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:39 PM
Q and Holman are just as big of liabilities as they are assets half the time

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 07:39 PM
That is two straight really horrible decisions from Q on fast breaks. He had two choices on each and he choose wrong on both.

HancockCountyDog
01-15-2019, 07:39 PM
I'm stunned how we have a ranked team playing a pivotal game and there appears to be no one at the game.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:40 PM
Let me think. Contested layup or a wide open look from three to Peters. Want to guess what Q went with?

Leeshouldveflanked
01-15-2019, 07:40 PM
Selfish Q being Selfish....

Dawg2003
01-15-2019, 07:40 PM
Q is just pitiful.

Jacksondevildog
01-15-2019, 07:40 PM
Holman is horrid defensively. Gives zero effort and always loses his man on a switch.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:40 PM
That is two straight really horrible decisions from Q on fast breaks. He had two choices on each and he choose wrong on both.

He went with the most selfish choice on both.

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 07:40 PM
Do we lead the nation in failed fast breaks and missed dunks?

Jacksondevildog
01-15-2019, 07:41 PM
What some of these players do not understand is if they cannot finish at the rim in college basketball, they cannot play in the NBA. Q gets his shit packed every time he goes to the rim.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:43 PM
Holman was out and Florida didn't score. Back in, 4 quick Florida points. Holman is awful

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:43 PM
5 straight points with Q and Holman out there. Bad use of the bench by Howland. Wide open shot by Holman’s man.

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 07:44 PM
I'm stunned how we have a ranked team playing a pivotal game and there appears to be no one at the game.

I'm not.....ask Gregg Byrne why.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:44 PM
If Holman played 8-10 mins a game, we'd be much better

Red Sox Dawg
01-15-2019, 07:44 PM
Q, Holman, and Ado on the floor and the 2 freshmen on the bench to finish the half.

And Holman's man burries a 3 to finish the half

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 07:45 PM
Holman should not see the floor till he decides to play defense.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:45 PM
I called it before it happened. 6 of the 8 points given up by Holman’s man. If Howland keeps playing that lineup, we will lose every time.

Leeshouldveflanked
01-15-2019, 07:45 PM
Holman’s man with 2 straight 3’s to end half...

HancockCountyDog
01-15-2019, 07:46 PM
What some of these players do not understand is if they cannot finish at the rim in college basketball, they cannot play in the NBA. Q gets his shit packed every time he goes to the rim.

I just think of Coach Mora, "NBA? NBA? You talking about the NBA? You kidding me? I just hope they can make a team overseas."

If Peters doesn't make some threes we are losing this game. Its like watching 5 individuals try and beat a team. This has to stop.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:46 PM
Everyone can see it but howland. Leave em out there, Ben... kill any shot at the ncaa

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 07:48 PM
Lol at Holman's man nailing a 3 at the buzzer.
Nice job by Peters in the half. I'm sure his teammates will shoot more often to keep him from outscoring them.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:48 PM
Everyone can see it but howland. Leave em out there, Ben... kill any shot at the ncaa

If we had Peters, Nick W, Tyson Carter, and the two freshmen out there at the end of the half we’d be up by 10 easy. Howland’s stubbornness is going to screw us big time.

Leeshouldveflanked
01-15-2019, 07:48 PM
Has Cohen made it in from Baseball practice yet?

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 07:50 PM
Holman comes into the game with 1:58 left in the first half and UF scores 8 points from that point forward. 2 three's were right in his face.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:50 PM
Lol at Holman's man nailing a 3 at the buzzer.
Nice job by Peters in the half. I'm sure his teammates will shoot more often to keep him from outscoring them.

He can’t guard a guard playing the 4. He just can’t. He doesn’t get out on shooters and we still gave up a ton of offensive rebounds with a big lineup anyway. What’s the point in playing Ado and Holman together when they play four guards. It’s dumb as shit. Our assistants need to be all over Howland’s ass about playing this big lineup. It’s dumb and it’s costing us big time.

msbulldog
01-15-2019, 07:50 PM
I remember the excitement I had whenthe 3 point line came to college basketball. Damn I miss the days of big guys in the post and shots in the 10-15 ft range. 3s or dunks all we have now

I guess me and you are what they define as old! But damn we're good1

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:51 PM
Holman comes into the game with 1:58 left in the first half and UF scores 8 points from that point forward. 2 three's were right in his face.

In his face? He wasn’t within five feet of the shooter.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 07:52 PM
Holman comes into the game with 1:58 left in the first half and UF scores 8 points from that point forward. 2 three's were right in his face.

Holman should play 8-10 mins a night max

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 07:52 PM
If we had Peters, Nick W, Tyson Carter, and the two freshmen out there at the end of the half we’d be up by 10 easy. Howland’s stubbornness is going to screw us big time.

We almost never play Nick, Lamar, and Tyson together. But we should.

Dawgcap
01-15-2019, 07:52 PM
Holman needs to sit and Q and Peters need to figure out how to coexist cause to me neither is all that excited for the success of the others. The rest of the team just kind of try’s to find a way to get involved if a opportunity presents itself.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:52 PM
I’d send a message to start the half. Sit Holman and Q.

Doggie_Style
01-15-2019, 07:52 PM
Holman was out and Florida didn't score. Back in, 4 quick Florida points. Holman is awful

Holman is Howland?s ticket out of Starkville ***

Dawgcap
01-15-2019, 07:53 PM
Other not others

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 07:53 PM
Holman should play 8-10 mins a night max

at the most.

jwells
01-15-2019, 07:53 PM
Game is a near spitting image from Saturday. If Holman continues to play we will lose. Woodard?s defense is much more valuable than the offense Holman has the potential to bring.

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 07:54 PM
I’d send a message to start the half. Sit Holman and Q.

Richard Williams would have. They have been awful, and it's effort and mentality.

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 07:55 PM
And Q continues to refuse to pass the ball in transition. Peters was wide open for a corner 3.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:56 PM
Game is a near spitting image from Saturday. If Holman continues to play we will lose. Woodard?s defense is much more valuable than the offense Holman has the potential to bring.

Howland is a moron. Florida is matching their 6’5 6’6 guys with Holman. Holman can not guard guards. He has given us nothing these last two games. Holman should sit the rest of the game but Howland will play him most of the second half.

Dawgcap
01-15-2019, 07:58 PM
I guess me and you are what they define as old! But damn we're good1

I love the game of basketball but just watching the last several years I miss the big guys posting up, screens and back cuts. And damn I miss the offenses working to get a wide open 10 footer. Yep I?m old!! Never thought I would say this when the 3 point line was introduced.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 07:59 PM
Richard Williams would have. They have been awful, and it's effort and mentality.

Hell Kermit Davis did the same Saturday with his guys. That’s why they play at a high level because they want to stay out there. We have no discipline and it starts at the top because they know they won’t get taken out. Howland can point out all of our faults and scream and yell from the sidelines all he wants but until he takes away their playing time nothing is going to change.

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 07:59 PM
Holman was -8 the first half in +/-. Played 11 minutes.

jwells
01-15-2019, 07:59 PM
Howland is a moron. Florida is matching their 6’5 6’6 guys with Holman. Holman can not guard guards. He has given us nothing these last two games. Holman should sit the rest of the game but Howland will play him most of the second half.

And it seemed that he was sending a message by not starting him but he put him back in like normal after the first 10 minutes or so.

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 08:02 PM
Can someone chip The concrete off of our shoes?

jwells
01-15-2019, 08:02 PM
The bigs also hedge so long it hurts.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:02 PM
Now Woodard with a bad start

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:02 PM
I think we bout to see the Ben Howland farewell tour

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:03 PM
This team has given up on defense. They aren't even trying.

Doggie_Style
01-15-2019, 08:03 PM
The lazy passing is driving me crazy....it’s like they could care less

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 08:03 PM
Q won?t even make a European league.

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:04 PM
Effort starts on defense.

Dawg2003
01-15-2019, 08:05 PM
We look like we don't give a sh*t. What is this?

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 08:05 PM
The lazy passing is driving me crazy....it?s like they could care less

They?ve been playing like they don?t care all year. It increased as the ranking increased.

Leeshouldveflanked
01-15-2019, 08:05 PM
Can we not “Q”?

jwells
01-15-2019, 08:05 PM
Effort starts on defense.

You’re exactly right and we have no one that wants to put forth that effort. Haven’t for a while.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 08:05 PM
I don’t understand this team. We have turned into just a bad basketball team.

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 08:06 PM
Nice start to the 2nd half****

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 08:07 PM
I love this tv crew being brutally honest about our effort.

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:07 PM
I don’t understand this team. We have turned into just a bad basketball team.

They never were that good.

Turfdawg67
01-15-2019, 08:09 PM
If we had Peters, Nick W, Tyson Carter, and the two freshmen out there at the end of the half we?d be up by 10 easy. Howland?s stubbornness is going to screw us big time.

This should be the lineup for the foreseeable future...

Bdawg
01-15-2019, 08:09 PM
My gosh they have wide open looks every trip down the court

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 08:09 PM
I have never seen such lack of effort.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 08:10 PM
All I know is this is the last one of these game threads period. Period.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:10 PM
If we don't make the tourney, I want howland gone. He can't teach defense or offense. His team isn't playing hard

Percho
01-15-2019, 08:10 PM
If I were coaching Q would not see the floor the rest of this game.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 08:11 PM
If we don't make the tourney, I want howland gone. He can't teach defense or offense. His team isn't playing hard

He doesn’t hold them accountable via playing time.

Dawgcap
01-15-2019, 08:11 PM
Seriously if Florida shot like Ole Miss did Saturday we’d be down 20.

Turfdawg67
01-15-2019, 08:11 PM
I'm not.....ask Gregg Byrne why.

Strickland and Cohen didn't change his FU either.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:12 PM
Holman with a spark

WeWonItAll(Most)
01-15-2019, 08:14 PM
It looks to me like Holman is always out of position on defense. He just drifts deeper and deeper into the lane while his guy is out at the 3pt line

Bdawg
01-15-2019, 08:14 PM
Seriously if Florida shot like Ole Miss did Saturday we’d be down 20.

What I was thinking. Been wide open

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 08:15 PM
I don’t understand this team. We have turned into just a bad basketball team.

Been that way for 3 years with the defensive effort from this group

MaroonFlounder
01-15-2019, 08:15 PM
Announcers are nailing it. No blocking out. Getting outworked on the offensive boards.

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:16 PM
Strickland and Cohen didn't change his FU either.

Nope. Got to keep the good seats for people who only want to go to the Ole Miss and Kentucky games.

WeWonItAll(Most)
01-15-2019, 08:16 PM
And we have to travel at least 5 times a game.

timotheus
01-15-2019, 08:16 PM
No blocking out, slow or no reactionary defense and we have no idea how to attack this zone. White is showing how a good X's and O's guy can out smart Howland.

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:16 PM
Been that way for 3 years with the defensive effort from this group

Yep

Leeshouldveflanked
01-15-2019, 08:17 PM
Why do we switch on screens? I saw Larry Bird and Red Auerbach with a 15 min discussion on screens.... Bird said don?t switch....Red said switch....

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:17 PM
Amazing what happens when you play a little defense.

MaroonFlounder
01-15-2019, 08:18 PM
This will be the beginning of the end of this team.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 08:19 PM
And now the officiating getting into it. Green shouldn’t have called a T there.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 08:20 PM
We just can’t catch a break. Thought the call was way late and the T shouldn’t have happened.

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:20 PM
And now the officiating getting into it. Green shouldn’t have called a T there.

That's a T almost every time when it in reaction to a ref's call.

WeWonItAll(Most)
01-15-2019, 08:22 PM
That's a T almost every time when it in reaction to a ref's call.

Yea how dare he bounce the ball while playing basketball

BankerDog
01-15-2019, 08:23 PM
If our starting 5 isn?t Peters, Nick, Woodard, Holman, and Perry our next game I may be done. Perry and Woodard at least show emotion and play aggressive; something we?re lacking severely.

Dawgcap
01-15-2019, 08:24 PM
My thoughts are we have 3 seniors trying to outshine each other on offense. Then they play week on D. Young guys seem fed up or are following their lead. Dissension. And yep that fall on the coach

MaroonFlounder
01-15-2019, 08:24 PM
If our starting 5 isn?t Peters, Nick, Woodard, Holman, and Perry our next game I may be done. Perry and Woodard at least show emotion and play aggressive; something we?re lacking severely.

You're crazy. Holman is killing us.

MaroonFlounder
01-15-2019, 08:26 PM
My thoughts are we have 3 seniors trying to outshine each other on offense. Then they play week on D. Young guys seem fed up or are following their lead. Dissension. And yep that fall on the coach


Lamar is not a senior

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:26 PM
That call on that rebound is garbage. I hate that rule.

Dawgcap
01-15-2019, 08:27 PM
Amen Andy Kennedy. That’s on Florida

Turfdawg67
01-15-2019, 08:27 PM
If our starting 5 isn?t Peters, Nick, Woodard, Holman, and Perry our next game I may be done. Perry and Woodard at least show emotion and play aggressive; something we?re lacking severely.

Holman?!? Dude doesn't know the meaning of defense.

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 08:28 PM
We play a little better and the officials try to **** us. Jeez.

Turfdawg67
01-15-2019, 08:29 PM
Carter is hot... time to take him out.

Dawgcap
01-15-2019, 08:29 PM
Lamar is not a senior

Well guys leaving after this year or so they think

Bdawg
01-15-2019, 08:29 PM
Man that's some weak crap refs on Peters. Damn

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 08:31 PM
Reminds me of football. No discipline

WeWonItAll(Most)
01-15-2019, 08:32 PM
Jesus we get the whole freaking rule book thrown at us when we play. If you want to see every odd rule be called in a game, watch us.

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 08:32 PM
Refs just can't stand to not insert themselves into a close game.

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 08:32 PM
Not getting any home floor officiating tonight

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:33 PM
Jesus we get the whole freaking rule book thrown at us when we play. If you want to see every odd rule be called in a game, watch us.
Ain't that the truth. Any little contact on us is a foul and they have to bloody a nose to get one called. That bump wasn't called on perry though

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 08:34 PM
Not getting any home floor officiating tonight

When I saw Green as the official I knew we were screwed.

Percho
01-15-2019, 08:34 PM
Not getting any home floor officiating tonight

I can't remember when we have.

trob115
01-15-2019, 08:35 PM
When I saw Green as the official I knew we were screwed.

I?d argue his crew is the worst in basketball.

MaroonFlounder
01-15-2019, 08:37 PM
Q is so careless wth the ball. Bad turnovers every game.

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 08:37 PM
Q has been a fast break disaster in league play. He’s making a ton of turnovers on high % scoring chances

Bdawg
01-15-2019, 08:37 PM
Q with a chance to take momentum and turns it over. We just suck. Period.

MaroonFlounder
01-15-2019, 08:38 PM
LOST. Nobody seems to give a shit.

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 08:38 PM
Q is so careless wth the ball. Bad turnovers every game.

Earlier in the game when he was standing out of bounds when he got the ball was mind boggling.

WSOPdawg
01-15-2019, 08:38 PM
Q is so careless wth the ball. Bad turnovers every game.


Q has been a fast break disaster in league play. He’s making a ton of turnovers on high % scoring chances

Q is a clown and I'm ready for him to move on ALREADY!!!

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 08:39 PM
Ok nick makes that 3 but if he moves to the basket like he should he has a dunk. He turned a 99% shot into a 35% shot

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:39 PM
Probably a good time to sit Q

Leeshouldveflanked
01-15-2019, 08:39 PM
#NeverPassToQ

Scared_Hitless
01-15-2019, 08:41 PM
Will reiterate this team is lazy and selfish. Q worst of the bunch tonight

Saltydog
01-15-2019, 08:41 PM
don the maroon/white (Sans Renardo Sidney) are gone.

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 08:41 PM
I'm 5'-10" and 50 years old and I could defend Ado.

Goldendawg
01-15-2019, 08:42 PM
Will reiterate this team is lazy and selfish. Q worst of the bunch tonight

They look like they don't like playing together.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 08:43 PM
This team needs leadership in the worst way. When your two seniors are selfish and don’t give full effort, it’s going to trickle down to the rest of the team. This is the worst Florida team of the past 10 years. They aren’t good at all. Howland has no clue how to coach this team.

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 08:43 PM
11 offensive boards for UF. Pitiful.

Red Sox Dawg
01-15-2019, 08:44 PM
Holman and Ado should never be on the floor at the same time and Q's minutes need to go down.

Turfdawg67
01-15-2019, 08:44 PM
Q is a clown and I'm ready for him to move on ALREADY!!!

Man... I'm there too, and I never would've seen me say that. Holy shit! This team's about to f*ck up a potentially phenomenal season. Kinda like football... except that was a FIRST year coach!!

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 08:44 PM
Here’s the question. Down the stretch, Ado turned the ball over three big times against OM. Ado is out there now.

Red Sox Dawg
01-15-2019, 08:45 PM
Please take Q out, please

MaroonFlounder
01-15-2019, 08:45 PM
Zero chance now

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:46 PM
Big shot, Holman

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 08:46 PM
They have too damn many offensive rebounds.

Turfdawg67
01-15-2019, 08:47 PM
That oughta do it and Howland should be fired tonight. MFer is mailing it in and is letting his team do whatever they want. F*cking criminal with this talent.

Bdawg
01-15-2019, 08:47 PM
They have too damn many offensive rebounds.

They're killing us

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 08:47 PM
UF is so bad on offense. This would be a brutal loss.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 08:47 PM
Offensive rebounds are the story of this game and we have a bigger ****ing lineup out there. Got to block out in a man to man otherwise what’s the point?

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:48 PM
Inconsistent effort on the defensive end is killing us. Until that changes this is a terrible basketball team. They look good one trip, and terrible the next. They look great for 20 seconds and then watch on the rebound, it's hard to watch.

Scared_Hitless
01-15-2019, 08:48 PM
Welp this will wrap it up if we dont pull it out. Team feels toxic they are going to collapse

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 08:48 PM
They have too damn many offensive rebounds.
That's why it's so frustrating to what his effort. He can be damn good.

WSOPdawg
01-15-2019, 08:50 PM
Man... I'm there too, and I never would've seen me say that. Holy shit! This team's about to f*ck up a potentially phenomenal season. Kinda like football... except that was a FIRST year coach!!

That's the same with me -- I never bad-mouth our players, but this is inexcusable on Howland's part (to keep running "turnover-King Q" and "no-D Holman" out there).

parabrave
01-15-2019, 08:50 PM
If you get a chance listen to Coach Williams post game take on the game. It's very insightful.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:50 PM
Peters, thank you

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 08:51 PM
Where is the urgency on offense? I?m done with this f*cking team win or lose.

MaroonFlounder
01-15-2019, 08:51 PM
Here's where Michael White outcoaches Ben Howland. Stay tuned

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 08:52 PM
I can't believe we run the fckn weave 10 times a game.

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 08:53 PM
Why do you not got 2-1 there?

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 08:53 PM
Crap how do we not finish there or get that call?

WSOPdawg
01-15-2019, 08:53 PM
Now Lamar just blew a 2-for-1 possession opportunity by not pushing a little tempo. You gotta get a good shot, but that's Just dumb basketball.

Bdawg
01-15-2019, 08:53 PM
Damn. Peters got fouled

Goldendawg
01-15-2019, 08:53 PM
So, which alpha male refuses to share the ball and drives into traffic to lose the ball?

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:54 PM
Little arm

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 08:54 PM
Well you have to be kidding me

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:54 PM
Unbelievable

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:54 PM
Had it won and then so something you never do. Dang.

Bdawg
01-15-2019, 08:55 PM
Are you kidding me

WSOPdawg
01-15-2019, 08:55 PM
Sonofabitch!!! why pass it underneath our own basket!!! Man, we're so snakebit!!! 17!!!!

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:55 PM
Why didn't nick just hold and shoot a FT

RougeDawg
01-15-2019, 08:55 PM
Holy shit. Horrible decisions. Horrible.

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 08:55 PM
WTF is Nick doing!?

WSOPdawg
01-15-2019, 08:56 PM
WTF is Nick doing!?

choking in crunch time

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:56 PM
Well now Q!

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 08:56 PM
Nick should have just kept that ball and taken the foul

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:57 PM
Q has been bad all night, but wow at the end. Big plays back to back

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:57 PM
Now defend it.

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 08:57 PM
I can't believe it, Q actually passed the ball on the previous possession. And then we got a good shot at the end of the game.

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 08:57 PM
Why can't Q have that intensity the whole game?

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:57 PM
Foul them? I say yes.

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 08:57 PM
Well Q made two huge plays

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 08:57 PM
Foul.

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:58 PM
Holman played well down the stretch too. I ripped both deservedly earlier, but they came on at the end

WSOPdawg
01-15-2019, 08:58 PM
now why not foul to give them a 1-n-1 (ie, no 3)?

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 08:58 PM
I would not foul

Liverpooldawg
01-15-2019, 08:58 PM
Horrible ugly win. Dang we needed it!

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:58 PM
Foul.

Howland is dumb

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 08:59 PM
Whew! That was an absolute must win game. Good job by Q at the end.

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 08:59 PM
Thanks goodness!

Dawgcap
01-15-2019, 08:59 PM
Ugly win.

mparkerfd20
01-15-2019, 08:59 PM
Whew

msstate7
01-15-2019, 08:59 PM
Ugly win.

Yep, we needed it bad

HoopsDawg
01-15-2019, 09:00 PM
Holman played well down the stretch too. I ripped both deservedly earlier, but they came on at the end

Yeah, that Holman 3 was huge

Leeshouldveflanked
01-15-2019, 09:00 PM
It’s a Dead Injun Miracle!

Goldendawg
01-15-2019, 09:00 PM
I still don't think some of them like playing together. Team has no chemistry.

LC Dawg
01-15-2019, 09:00 PM
Nice finish. Maybe this will get these guys going. I'm still on board because I want so bad for us to be good at basketball.

Irondawg
01-15-2019, 09:01 PM
They did get a good look at the end but I don’t trust this team to execute a foul and then grab a rebound. We would have given up a Ft and then an offensive board and watched them hit a 3 to win

MarketingBully
01-15-2019, 09:01 PM
Yep, we needed it bad

That was the biggest must win game in a long time. I don’t think we recover if we lost that game.

Turfdawg67
01-15-2019, 09:01 PM
UT beating UPig by almost 30...

msstate7
01-15-2019, 09:01 PM
UT beating UPig by almost 30...

They're a monster