The refs are calling this game straight-up. That's why Bammer's getting smoked [Archive]

BulldogBear

01-07-2019, 09:58 PM

smootness

01-07-2019, 09:59 PM

O........k

dawgday166

01-07-2019, 10:01 PM

For most part I'd tend to agree. Didn't throw Mack Wilson out for targeting tho. That would've been a big boost to Clemson's chances ... don't you think?

Todd4State

01-07-2019, 10:01 PM

Maybe not that bad.

But with that said. Everyone but the Crimson Pirate faithful knows Bama gets an SEC escort through each season. Is Saban really the legend he seems to be. Perhaps, but we will never truly know.

I'm starting to think that he is overrated to a degree. Sort of like the Bear. He loads up on talent because he is a great recruiter and he has the SEC backing to get him through most of the close conference games. But I don't think he is the coaching genius that he is made out to be.

Percho

01-07-2019, 10:06 PM

I'm starting to think that he is overrated to a degree. Sort of like the Bear. He loads up on talent because he is a great recruiter and he has the SEC backing to get him through most of the close conference games. But I don't think he is the coaching genius that he is made out to be.

Only thing that comes to mind, Logan Young.

Mutt the Hoople

01-07-2019, 10:07 PM

Saban was mediocre at Michigan State, but he did change the culture at LSU. Plus he united the factions at Alabama.

Dawgtini

01-07-2019, 11:01 PM

Nope. Bama getting the MSU treatment tonight from zebras. Tons of no calls in Clempson?s favor.

RougeDawg

01-07-2019, 11:10 PM

Well one example is our game against Bama. We had a clear TD taken away by a bogus call. Had another FG attempt backed up by a bogus call and offsides that was ignored. Kick would have been good from 5 yards closer. Plus Bama scored their first TD after they clearly fumbled and we recovered.

14-17 point swing in that game and we can stick to game plan and give us a chance in the 2nd half.

NWADAWG

01-07-2019, 11:21 PM

There are a lot of calls/no calls going the way of Clemson. I think the NCAA knew that Clemson needed to win to keep the interest up and the money flowing.

Don't get me wrong. Clemson is a heck of a team and playing their tales off. But, as Bama is seeing tonight, a few seemingly minor calls can make a huge swing in how a game is played.

Lord McBuckethead

01-08-2019, 12:00 AM

Yep. Some small calls make a huge difference when they do not bounce your way. Oh well. On to next year.

bluelightstar

01-08-2019, 12:06 AM

Are you kidding? The refs were way in clemson’s favor.

THE Bruce Dickinson

01-08-2019, 12:23 AM

Are you kidding? The refs were way in clemson’s favor.

Clemson won because they were a lot better than Bama.

Final rankings should be:

Clemson
ND
Bama
OSU
OU
Texas

timotheus

01-08-2019, 12:29 AM

ND isn't better than any of the teams you listed.

bluelightstar

01-08-2019, 12:36 AM

Clemson won because they were a lot better than Bama.

Final rankings should be:

Clemson
ND
Bama
OSU
OU
Texas

I didn’t say Alabama was better than Clemson. I said that this game was not called evenly and that the refs favorite Clemson, and I still believe that to be the case. Clemson was holding, they got away with targeting, and they mugged Alabama’s receivers. Without that, Alabama loses a close one (I believe they outgained Clemson)...

And you’re nuts if you think Notre Dame is better than Alabama.

Cloak

01-08-2019, 01:09 AM

If the refs had called ALL of Bammer's games straight, they'd have finished 8-4.

LOL 8-4? What a dumbass post. Alabama is the most talented team in the SEC. Yes the refs have been biased toward bama, but 8-4 is just an embarrassing thought.

TUSK

01-08-2019, 01:16 AM

If the refs had called ALL of Bammer's games straight, they'd have finished 8-4.

Stop.

you're too smart.

TUSK

01-08-2019, 01:19 AM

Bammer got lit the EF UP... some times. you'll have that...

I'm just pleased it was a really good team that did it,,,,

TUSK

01-08-2019, 01:21 AM

I didn’t say Alabama was better than Clemson. I said that this game was not called evenly and that the refs favorite Clemson, and I still believe that to be the case. Clemson was holding, they got away with targeting, and they mugged Alabama’s receivers. Without that, Alabama loses a close one (I believe they outgained Clemson)...

And you’re nuts if you think Notre Dame is better than Alabama.

I don't think Clemson is "better"... but I do know they whipped Bama's ass....

Tbonewannabe

01-08-2019, 07:35 AM

Lord McBuckethead

01-08-2019, 08:56 AM

You will have to admit, Seahawks is a better organization than the dolphins though. Seems like they got their crap together when they hired Carroll.

Commercecomet24

01-08-2019, 09:36 AM

I don't think Clemson is "better"... but I do know they whipped Bama's ass....

Yeah these were the 2 best teams in college football by far this year. Bama had their chances to take this but the 2 turnovers were killers as well as not getting tds in the red zone. Very even talent wise but Clemson was the better prepared team last night.

dawgday166

01-08-2019, 09:44 AM

Yeah these were the 2 best teams in college football by far this year. Bama had their chances to take this but the 2 turnovers were killers as well as not getting tds in the red zone. Very even talent wise but Clemson was the better prepared team last night.

Clemson's just better. If Bama doesn't have help in games, they might've lost 2 this year. This is a soft Bama team this year. The 2014 Bama team better than this one ... and I'm not saying that cause we were close to them either. I think that D was better than this D and the Oline was too. Bama very soft on Oline this year, but played only about 3 to 4 teams that could exploit that some. D isn't as physical as usual either. Least physical Bama team I've seen out of Saban.

Commercecomet24

01-08-2019, 09:47 AM

Clemson's just better. If Bama doesn't have help in games, they might've lost 2 this year. This is a soft Bama team this year. The 2014 Bama team better than this one ... and I'm not saying that cause we were close to them either. I think that D was better than this D and the Oline was too. Bama very soft on Oline this year, but played only about 3 to 4 teams that could exploit that some. D isn't as physical as usual either. Least physical Bama team I've seen out of Saban.

They were last night but bama definitely had their chances. Without the 2 ints, its at the very worst 17-16 clemson at halftime. Don't get me wrong Clemson whipped their behind but bama is still an extremely talented team.

dawgday166

01-08-2019, 09:53 AM

They were last night but bama definitely had their chances. Without the 2 ints, its at the very worst 17-16 clemson at halftime. Don't get me wrong Clemson whipped their behind but bama is still an extremely talented team.

Tua starts throwing picks everytime he's getting hit some. I will say that Bama is still talented (although their Oline is really not that good, but everywhere else they are talented). I attribute a lot of the softness to coaching more than talent. Bo's boy Bartoo says Saban has the worst OC/DC combo he's had at Bama (Bartoo thinks both suck). Bama hasn't been as physical on D since Kirby left. Any other team turns over a whole coaching staff they lose 3 games minimum. Bama being propped up some in SEC tho IMO. They the "bell cow" and money maker of the SEC.

Hot Rock

01-08-2019, 10:19 AM

I don't think Clemson is "better"... but I do know they whipped Bama's ass....

Then you think incorrectly. Clemson is a better team:

Bama's secondary cannot cover those receivers.
Clemson QB is better and he will get even better as he plays
Clemson DL and OL are better..

This just in Clemson is better than Bama and Dabo outcoached Saban's as well.

Mutt.. has a point about the game being called evenly but 8-4 is not realistic. Bama may have dropped a game or two somewhere but they still are most talented team in the SEC... GA getting dang close.

It is kind of nice to see Bama get called for penalties for change. That late hit out of bounds would have never been called against us and yet it was late and out of bounds and should have been called.

Tbonewannabe

01-08-2019, 10:58 AM

You will have to admit, Seahawks is a better organization than the dolphins though. Seems like they got their crap together when they hired Carroll.

You probably don't say that prior to Carroll getting there. Now whether Seattle gave Pete more control over the team than Saban, that is debatable but Pete has 2 7-9 seasons and those are his only losing records. One of those he still made the playoffs.

Tbonewannabe

01-08-2019, 11:00 AM

Then you think incorrectly. Clemson is a better team:

Bama's secondary cannot cover those receivers.
Clemson QB is better and he will get even better as he plays
Clemson DL and OL are better..

This just in Clemson is better than Bama and Dabo outcoached Saban's as well.

Mutt.. has a point about the game being called evenly but 8-4 is not realistic. Bama may have dropped a game or two somewhere but they still are most talented team in the SEC... GA getting dang close.

It is kind of nice to see Bama get called for penalties for change. That late hit out of bounds would have never been called against us and yet it was late and out of bounds and should have been called.

Realistically, Bama had 2 possible losses, UGA and MSU. The only other game that was even a game was aTm. This Bama team was good but not as physical as past teams.

dawgday166

01-08-2019, 11:05 AM

You probably don't say that prior to Carroll getting there. Now whether Seattle gave Pete more control over the team than Saban, that is debatable but Pete has 2 7-9 seasons and those are his only losing records. One of those he still made the playoffs.

I do think Carroll is GM too. Saban wasn't.

Homedawg

01-08-2019, 02:23 PM

Realistically, Bama had 2 possible losses, UGA and MSU. The only other game that was even a game was aTm. This Bama team was good but not as physical as past teams.

when was ours a game???? it was 14-0 after 8 mins in. It was never in doubt.

msstate7

01-08-2019, 02:24 PM

when was ours a game???? it was 14-0 after 8 mins in. It was never in doubt.

21-0 after first quarter in a game we didn't score. Game ended with them on our goal line

Percho

01-08-2019, 02:38 PM

when was ours a game???? it was 14-0 after 8 mins in. It was never in doubt.

They were 14-0 after they put the ball on the ground on both drives, which we recovered both and which neither were called fumbles nor looked at on replay. SEC Officials sucked as usual.

Percho

01-08-2019, 02:40 PM

Call loose balls fumbles on the field and then look at the replays to determine. Screwed two years in a row. Period.....................

dawgday166

01-08-2019, 03:23 PM

They were 14-0 after they put the ball on the ground on both drives, which we recovered both and which neither were called fumbles nor looked at on replay. SEC Officials sucked as usual.

Some momentum can be impacted by stuff like that. In 2017 we were 3 & out till Bama leaped our punt blocker for a penalty. That gave us some momentum, we got some confidence, and we took off from there. When refs don't even let you get out the gate ... tough to overcome against Bama in TTown.

RougeDawg

01-08-2019, 05:54 PM

21-0 after first quarter in a game we didn't score. Game ended with them on our goal line

The referees caused a non debatable 14 point swing. Fumble by Bama, not even reviewed.They scored 2-3 plays later. They erased our TD on the phantom PI. We got zero points that drive. Being down 7 instead of 21 allows us to stay in more of our regular offensive package and does not force us to go pass heavy.

Tbonewannabe

01-08-2019, 06:29 PM

21-0 after first quarter in a game we didn't score. Game ended with them on our goal line

With the refs from last night, it is a 17-10 game at worst.

Hot Rock

01-08-2019, 07:33 PM

Bama was better than we were this year no doubt and should have beaten us but it sucks we don't get the fair shake. Clemson would have cleaned our clock as well. The only team that I see could have given them a game is Georgia and they got beat by Texas.

Bama got the fair shake last night, it was not a bunch of biased no calls. There was a targeting that got ignored early on that could have been called on Bama. I felt like it was good no call that had no bearing on the game but it could have been called.

Homedawg

01-08-2019, 09:43 PM