Freeze to Liberty

[preachermatt83]

Seems to be about wrapped up. Wow.

[LC Dawg]

Coach or President? Or sorority house dad?

[TUSK]

Whew....

[Quaoarsking]

I don't think there will be a better head coach/school fit in the entire FBS. Kudos to both of them I guess?

[Cooterpoot]

Those crazy Baptists!

[Liverpooldawg]

So I guess he now knows better than to call the "escorts" on his school phone. Then again that ain't a public university so no pesky Freedom of Information Act to worry about. Yep, next stop Vandy and then Notre Dame.:p

[Dawg61]

That number was planted by Ole Miss as a backdoor escape plan before the NCAA dug deeper. Prove me wrong.

[BuckyIsAB****]

That number was planted by Ole Miss as a backdoor escape plan before the NCAA dug deeper. Prove me wrong.

Never thought of it before. No way of knowing but could you imagine

[KOdawg1]

That number was planted by Ole Miss as a backdoor escape plan before the NCAA dug deeper. Prove me wrong.
Idk if that's exactly what happened but there were certainly things that happened that did not come to light. It all seemed to easy. Freeze went away too quietly, and the way OM handled it was weird.

[DLGDawg]

Idk if that's exactly what happened but there were certainly things that happened that did not come to light. It all seemed to easy. Freeze went away too quietly, and the way OM handled it was weird.

I think freeze fell on the sword. Hell...he really had no choice imo. Getting caught red handed setting up the hookers for the recruits(which is what he was doing imo) is way worse for him than ?going away quietly?.

[TimberBeast]

Thanks Liberty. One less place I would let my kids go to school.

[DancingRabbit]

That number was planted by Ole Miss as a backdoor escape plan before the NCAA dug deeper. Prove me wrong.

I don't think anything was planted. The question is whether it was by accident that the number didn't get redacted.

So, what is the current story-line with Hugh and the SEC schools that showed interest? Did Sankey blackball Hugh, or did the schools call Tom Mars as part of their due diligence?

[Dawg61]

Never thought of it before. No way of knowing but could you imagine

Seemed obvious to me that number on his phone was left as an out when the heat got too hot. The strangest or most telling part of it was Freeze not redacting the number when he had been given the chance to do so.

[Pit Bull]

While this is a tough one for me to digest, I really cannot point out the wood specs in his eyes when I have logs in mine. I am all about 2nd and maybe even 3rd chances. I just hope he has gotten his personal life straightened out, especially with his family. I'm sure he had to sit down with Falwell Jr. and discuss his past transgressions in great detail, before Liberty decided to make the call. Personally, I hope Hugh turns his life around and has success on and more importantly......off the field.

[MetEdDawg]

I don't think anything was planted. The question is whether it was by accident that the number didn't get redacted.

So, what is the current story-line with Hugh and the SEC schools that showed interest? Did Sankey blackball Hugh, or did the schools call Tom Mars as part of their due diligence?

Auburn won't let Malzahn give any assistant more than a one year deal and they've publicly come out and said that. Freeze was in talks with Auburn to become the OC but he wanted something more than one year.

Once Auburn realized they were hurting themselves they went back on that statement and said Malzahn could get an OC and they might give them a two year contract.

Point is Auburn had a shot at Freeze and they have self sabotaged themselves openly. And of course Missouri outbid them for Kelly Bryant. Auburn is in absolute disarray.

[Cooterpoot]

Some of you need Xanax. There was no conspiracy. He got caught with his hand in the honey pot. Liberty now has Freeze and Baylor’s old man in charge. Falwell probably is comparing phone numbers with Freeze.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

While this is a tough one for me to digest, I really cannot point out the wood specs in his eyes when I have logs in mine. I am all about 2nd and maybe even 3rd chances. I just hope he has gotten his personal life straightened out, especially with his family. I'm sure he had to sit down with Falwell Jr. and discuss his past transgressions in great detail, before Liberty decided to make the call. Personally, I hope Hugh turns his life around and has success on and more importantly......off the field.

I hear you. The problem is you just admitted you had a log in your eye. Hugh doesn't think he has a speck or a log. He's the victim. Hugh thinks it is everybody else's fault that he doesn't have a job. Hugh isn't remorseful. And he is a vindictive SOB. I could tell you a story that would shock you. But I won't and I can't on this type of forum.

[DownwardDawg]

Some of you need Xanax. There was no conspiracy. He got caught with his hand in the honey pot. Liberty now has Freeze and Baylor’s old man in charge. Falwell probably is comparing phone numbers with Freeze.

Yeah, this whole thing wreaks of filth. This thread makes me want to take a shower.
On another note, I’m not sure how many SEC schools actually have reached out to Freeze. I think most AD’s and HC’s are smarter than message board posters and know that he’s not that good of a coach. He’s a cheater. Croom could have won the SEC with top 5 recruiting classes.

[Quaoarsking]

Some of you need Xanax. There was no conspiracy. He got caught with his hand in the honey pot. Liberty now has Freeze and Baylor’s old man in charge. Falwell probably is comparing phone numbers with Freeze.

Yep. Say what you will about his father (and I would say a whole lot), but at least Falwell Sr. was sincere. Falwell Jr. has made it very clear that he doesn't have a problem with adultery, so it's not remotely surprising that he wanted Freeze.

[StThierry]

Yeah, Jr wants to make Liberty relevant in their conference, and he knows Freeze can do this. I suspect Jr is thrilled to not only hire Freeze as a coach, but to hire a staunch Baptist who talks about his faith as their coach.

[Quaoarsking]

On the bright side for Freeze, Liberty is one of the few jobs in the country where he won't get in trouble for baptizing people on the clock, assuming he even wants to do that and it wasn't a publicity stunt.

[Mobile Bay]

I hear you. The problem is you just admitted you had a log in your eye. Hugh doesn't think he has a speck or a log. He's the victim. Hugh thinks it is everybody else's fault that he doesn't have a job. Hugh isn't remorseful. And he is a vindictive SOB. I could tell you a story that would shock you. But I won't and I can't on this type of forum.

I doubt you could make me think less of him after the Briarwood sex crimes allegations.

[ShotgunDawg]

https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1071032392348037120?s=21

[dawgs]

I hear you. The problem is you just admitted you had a log in your eye. Hugh doesn't think he has a speck or a log. He's the victim. Hugh thinks it is everybody else's fault that he doesn't have a job. Hugh isn't remorseful. And he is a vindictive SOB. I could tell you a story that would shock you. But I won't and I can't on this type of forum.

We are all adults here.

[Tbonewannabe]

While this is a tough one for me to digest, I really cannot point out the wood specs in his eyes when I have logs in mine. I am all about 2nd and maybe even 3rd chances. I just hope he has gotten his personal life straightened out, especially with his family. I'm sure he had to sit down with Falwell Jr. and discuss his past transgressions in great detail, before Liberty decided to make the call. Personally, I hope Hugh turns his life around and has success on and more importantly......off the field.

I think getting hookers for 17 year olds so they choose to play with your team is a little bit different. It is pretty well known that Recruitaplooza was more Sodom and Gamora than a bible camp. If he truly is a Christian, I hope he actually cleaned up his act instead of just going on the apology tour. My personal opinion is that he uses Jesus for his image and own personal gain but hopefully that isn't true.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I’m sure Liberty has a pretty campus****

[BeardoMSU]

Wow. Peas in a pod.

[BeardoMSU]

I'm sure Bucky was sold on the job when he flipped to the back of his favorite mag and read this...knew he'd be right at home there.***

https://i0.wp.com/boingboing.net/images/falwell-hustler-first-time.jpg

[deadheaddawg]

While this is a tough one for me to digest, I really cannot point out the wood specs in his eyes when I have logs in mine. I am all about 2nd and maybe even 3rd chances. I just hope he has gotten his personal life straightened out, especially with his family. I'm sure he had to sit down with Falwell Jr. and discuss his past transgressions in great detail, before Liberty decided to make the call. Personally, I hope Hugh turns his life around and has success on and more importantly......off the field.

I doubt he had to explain anything. Liberty doesn't have any integrity. look at their AD. All they cared about was Huge Freeze was their best option to win football games.

Liberty is clearly run by people of awful character. Just like freeze.

[dawgday166]

Whew....

Worried Pruitt was gonna hire him ... weren't you? Aight.

ETA: Saban probably told Sankey that ain't happening. Make sure of it will ya. And Sankey said "Yes Master".

[PMDawg]

I'm sure Bucky was sold on the job when he flipped to the back of his favorite mag and read this...knew he'd be right at home there.***

https://i0.wp.com/boingboing.net/images/falwell-hustler-first-time.jpg

Wow. Whoever put that "ad" together was a disgusting human being.

[Jack Lambert]

Those crazy Baptists!

Louis Nobles comes to mind.

[BeardoMSU]

Wow. Whoever put that "ad" together was a disgusting human being.

Or maybe they just had a sense of humor....

[Cooterpoot]

On the bright side for Freeze, Liberty is one of the few jobs in the country where he won't get in trouble for baptizing people on the clock, assuming he even wants to do that and it wasn't a publicity stunt.

And he can still probably baptize his pecker and get away with it.

[MadDawg]

I think freeze fell on the sword. Hell...he really had no choice imo. Getting caught red handed setting up the hookers for the recruits(which is what he was doing imo) is way worse for him than ?going away quietly?.

Of course it's what he was doing. The fact that he is still married is all the proof I need.

[Mobile Bay]

Wow. Whoever put that "ad" together was a disgusting human being.

It was Larry Flynt

[Coursesuper]

I would love to see the morality clause in that contract!

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Sleeping Giant - if he can recruit there, LOOK OUT! They have everything you need to compete.

Look at their facilities! (https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?PID=38027)

[Dawgtini]

Wow. Whoever put that "ad" together was a disgusting human being.
Agreed. Not funny. Just vulgar

[fishwater99]

Some of you need Xanax. There was no conspiracy. He got caught with his hand in the honey pot. Liberty now has Freeze and Baylor?s old man in charge. Falwell probably is comparing phone numbers with Freeze.

No it's a know fact, the The Bears were buying Hookers and Freeze was the one calling them.

[Dawgtini]

Sleeping Giant - if he can recruit there, LOOK OUT! They have everything you need to compete.

Look at their facilities! (https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?PID=38027)

Wow. Was really surprised. They have quiet the setup.

[3rdGen]

Sleeping Giant - if he can recruit there, LOOK OUT! They have everything you need to compete.

Look at their facilities! (https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?PID=38027)


DanG! Pretty dern nice!

[jbjones]

I doubt he had to explain anything. Liberty doesn't have any integrity. look at their AD. All they cared about was Huge Freeze was their best option to win football games.

Liberty is clearly run by people of awful character. Just like freeze.

Yep. I could tell you a story about someone from our University going there, but I'll just say that this person fits right in with those grifters and charlatans.

[Spiderman]

Idk if that's exactly what happened but there were certainly things that happened that did not come to light. It all seemed to easy. Freeze went away too quietly, and the way OM handled it was weird.

There were 13 numbers, not just one, for folks that don't know.

[DownwardDawg]

Or maybe they just had a sense of humor....

A horrible one. There wasn't a funny remark in that entire garbage.

[Liverpooldawg]

That number was planted by Ole Miss as a backdoor escape plan before the NCAA dug deeper. Prove me wrong.

I certainly wouldn't be shocked.

[Tbonewannabe]

Wow. Was really surprised. They have quiet the setup.

They have facilities and sports we don't, wow. Does Liberty have some big donors?

[Dawg61]

It's a perfect match


"The school's honor code, called the "Liberty Way", prohibits premarital sex and private interactions alone between members of the opposite sex"

[preachermatt83]

Or maybe they just had a sense of humor....

There was nothing humorous about it

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

They play a home and home with New Mexico St......in the same season. Haven't run across that before.

https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?PID=36961&teamID=9

[Spiderman]

Hooker Hugh squalling at the end of the PC. Still being hailed as a "family man and a man of faith"...... vomit

[BeardoMSU]

Hooker Hugh squalling at the end of the PC. Still being hailed as a "family man and a man of faith"...... vomit

Wow, lol...that place is gonna do wonders for his narcissism.

[Spiderman]

Wow, lol...that place is gonna do wonders for his narcissism.

Said he had "inconvenienced" his wife a few times. Still can't own it.

Thought him saying he had 'been to the top" by winning a Sugar Bowl was rich. A couple of 9-3 teams for the first time ever in the Sugar is far from the top.

He then said he didn't handle that well. (Being "On Top").

I'd say not, going even more all in cheating with the NCAA in the house and laying up with whores all the time.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Those crazy Baptists!

Well being Baptist isn't what it used to be. Not going to mention anything political.

[Coursesuper]

Said he had "inconvenienced" his wife a few times. Still can't own it.

Thought him saying he had 'been to the top" by winning a Sugar Bowl was rich. A couple of 9-3 teams for the first time ever in the Sugar is far from the top.

He then said he didn't handle that well. (Being "On Top").

I'd say not, going even more all in cheating with the NCAA in the house and laying up with whores all the time.


That guy is a first class snake oil salesman for sure, the best part of it he's still convinced how wonderful he is. What a world class POS.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Wow. Whoever put that "ad" together was a disgusting human being.

Pretty sure it was Larry Flynt, and it is satire.

[fishwater99]

Said he had "inconvenienced" his wife a few times. Still can't own it.

Thought him saying he had 'been to the top" by winning a Sugar Bowl was rich. A couple of 9-3 teams for the first time ever in the Sugar is far from the top.

He then said he didn't handle that well. (Being "On Top").

I'd say not, going even more all in cheating with the NCAA in the house and laying up with whores all the time.

You mean buying hookers for recruits..

[ShotgunDawg]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt1sYbaWwAAYlx0.jpg:large

[PMDawg]

Pretty sure it was Larry Flynt, and it is satire.

I'm aware of what it was. It wasn't funny. And FYI - satire isn't the right word.

[PMDawg]

It was Larry Flynt

So I was right.

[BeardoMSU]

I'm aware of what it was. It wasn't funny. And FYI - satire isn't the right word.

Lighten up, Pillow Pants. And FYI, SCOTUS disagrees with you.

[Lance Harbor]

Or hilarious.


Wow. Whoever put that "ad" together was a disgusting human being.

[TUSK]

Lighten up, Pillow Pants. And FYI, SCOTUS disagrees with you.

Yepper....

Here's the "history lesson" for those that need to brush up....

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b5/People_vs_larry_flynt_poster.jpg/220px-People_vs_larry_flynt_poster.jpg

[BeardoMSU]

Yepper....

Here's the "history lesson" for those that need to brush up....

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b5/People_vs_larry_flynt_poster.jpg/220px-People_vs_larry_flynt_poster.jpg

Great movie. Woody was perfect.

[Todd4State]

This was so inevitable. I think he will be completely exposed as a coach without paid for talent. Like 2016.

[Tbonewannabe]

I'm aware of what it was. It wasn't funny. And FYI - satire isn't the right word.

Really shitty comedy? I doubt that anyone thought it was a factual article and I didn't think it was funny but that is the great and bad thing about free speech.

[Tbonewannabe]

This was so inevitable. I think he will be completely exposed as a coach without paid for talent. Like 2016.

Looking at those facilities, how long till Liberty is buying 3 and 4 star athletes? He doesn't need too many to kick ass at that level.

[deadheaddawg]

I will take Larry Flynt over Jerry Falwell any day. Fylnt seems a lot more honest and he's sure as hell a nicer human being than Falwell.

Not doubt they are both in hell together

[joben3]

https://forums.aseaofred.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21396

LOL at hugh freeze playing @ ole miss in 2021!

[TUSK]

Great movie. Woody was perfect.

Nailed it like a split hog...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8HfwnpGDFD8/maxresdefault.jpg



Courtney Love did a really good job of playing herself, too.

[gtowndawg]

Well, I started a thread about this the other day and my nightmare came true. I'm going out on a limb here but I assume I'm the only one that's attended both State and Liberty. Not only that but I have good friends at Liberty, including one that's on the football staff (I have no idea if he will be retained but I hope for his livelihood he will be). I'm also a Flames Club member and emailed them begging not to do this but what can I say, I'm one guy. Most everyone there doesn't seem to get what really went down, not like we do. They've have invested tons into athletics and they want to win. They will be good next year, lots of players coming back from a 6-6 team in it's first year of FBS. They could go 8-4 next year and Freeze will look like a hero. FYI: Clemson's QB coach and recruiting coordinator is a Liberty guy and that's who I (and a lot of others) pushed for. He's a major up and comer and would have done great without the ridiculous baggage and black eye slapped on the University by Freeze.

For those talking about facilities, they are unbelievable. I've personally toured them from the indoor practice facilities to the academic centers. They have a huge endowment (for a school that's 40 years old). In fact, their stadium is named after a Miss. State alum. They are also building a brand new basketball arena that will be amazing.

[gtowndawg]

And it some strange twist of thread fate, I also saw People v Larry Flint filmed at the courthouse in Memphis for an entire week. I was clerking (called runners back in those days) for a law firm that year. I got Courtney Love's autograph and she also had her daughter sign it (Frances Bean). At least as best she could, she was probably 3 years old at the time. Pretty sure Courtney was high or drunk.

[BeardoMSU]

And it some strange twist of thread fate, I also saw People v Larry Flint filmed at the courthouse in Memphis for an entire week. I was clerking (called runners back in those days) for a law firm that year. I got Courtney Love's autograph and she also had her daughter sign it (Frances Bean). At least as best she could, she was probably 3 years old at the time. Pretty sure Courtney was high or drunk.

Or both, lol. Wow dude. Awesome story.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Liberty’s endowment is $1.3 Billion..... that is more than Ole Miss and MSU’s combined....plenty of $$$ for crootin.

[Lord McBuckethead]

According to the US Supreme Court in 1988 with a conservative bench, it was in fact satire.

[Todd4State]

Looking at those facilities, how long till Liberty is buying 3 and 4 star athletes? He doesn't need too many to kick ass at that level.


Not long. He has the blueprint on how to do it from Ole Miss. One of the biggest advantages though is he doesn't have to compete with Alabama and Georgia head to head on and off the field- which is a big reason why he got turned in the first place. He also probably doesn't have the "win now and recruit four-five star players now" pressure that exists at Ole Miss- meaning that he can pace himself a little more slowly and win and recruit at a much more believable pace than he did when he pulled in the Nkemdiche class after going 6-6 and winning the Birmingham Bowl. Only question I have is whether or not they join a conference or try to become the Southern Baptist Notre Dame. With their resources it may be more advantageous to stay independent. He is also in an environment where Virginia Tech is down and Virginia has been down awhile- and I imagine that he is coming after their recruits. Unfortunately I fully expect him to come back to Mississippi and Memphis and try to get in the recruiting game as well. I could see him pulling a couple a year. Especially if some are Ole Miss legacies from Prep that want to play and get a scholarship instead of walking on.


Well, I started a thread about this the other day and my nightmare came true. I'm going out on a limb here but I assume I'm the only one that's attended both State and Liberty. Not only that but I have good friends at Liberty, including one that's on the football staff (I have no idea if he will be retained but I hope for his livelihood he will be). I'm also a Flames Club member and emailed them begging not to do this but what can I say, I'm one guy. Most everyone there doesn't seem to get what really went down, not like we do. They've have invested tons into athletics and they want to win. They will be good next year, lots of players coming back from a 6-6 team in it's first year of FBS. They could go 8-4 next year and Freeze will look like a hero. FYI: Clemson's QB coach and recruiting coordinator is a Liberty guy and that's who I (and a lot of others) pushed for. He's a major up and comer and would have done great without the ridiculous baggage and black eye slapped on the University by Freeze.

For those talking about facilities, they are unbelievable. I've personally toured them from the indoor practice facilities to the academic centers. They have a huge endowment (for a school that's 40 years old). In fact, their stadium is named after a Miss. State alum. They are also building a brand new basketball arena that will be amazing.


I didn't go to school there but my church has/had some connections there so I am probably more familiar with that university than others even though I never attended. It's absolutely a sleeping giant of a university. As far as their sports go- if Freeze doesn't work out it sounds like they have a potential replacement ready to go that to me sounds like a better option anyway. I always felt like Freeze would get outed at Ole Miss after a few years- which is exactly what happened. And knowing Liberty's history with Falwell and their ambition plus it's conservative Christian focus I figured it was only a matter of time before the two came together. I will say that I expected Freeze to be fired because the NCAA mess- not for running around with prostitutes. Although common sense says that the prostitutes were probably at least partially connected with their recruiting especially when you look at the timeline of who verbally committed to Ole Miss at that time and where the players were playing at that time. My theory is always going to be that Freeze got one for himself and one for Shea Patterson. At least until definitively proven wrong.

[Todd4State]

https://forums.aseaofred.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21396

LOL at hugh freeze playing @ ole miss in 2021!

That game all of a sudden got a lot more interesting. I'll be curious to see how their fans react to him.