Mcneese st game thread

[msstate7]

Come on dawgs. Sick of these slow starts

[mparkerfd20]

We look like hot steaming shit.

[MarketingBully]

This team starts slower then any MSU team I’ve seen. Part of it is they just don’t play defense for the first 10 minutes of any game this year. Holman has to play better then he is tonight.

[MarketingBully]

This team not giving a shit tonight. 1 point game with 3 minutes to go in the first half. I know we will win but these shit starts are concerning. Clemson will wipe the floor with us if we start like this on Saturday. McNeese State sucks.

[msstate7]

We're tied with around 1:30 to go to half with a team we're favored by 29 over. This 1st half crap is getting old

[maroonmania]

I just don't get this basketball team. Glad we decided to play the last 5 minutes and pulled it out against Dayton but struggling with McNeese tonight at HOME? And ALWAYS starting games like they don't give a crap. So much talent but we are playing nowhere up to our potential.

[WSOPdawg]

Sonofabitch!!! Sometimes a coach needs to go off on his team. 17n effort on defense is crap!!!

[maroonmania]

Sonofabitch!!! Sometimes a coach needs to go off on his team. 17n effort on defense is crap!!!

Yep, already given up 40 points and the first half isn't even over.

[MarketingBully]

No defense. A zone would have been great to use here since we are half ass playing.

[Dawg2003]

Our defense is soft. Just letting them score at will down low. And what happened to Holman? He's regressed.

[HoopsDawg]

Lamar is playing outstanding.

[chef dixon]

Just going to have to accept that this is our team and the same they have essentially been for the better part of 3 years. Never going to be easy to watch, but good enough on some days to compete with good teams.

[msstate7]

We losing at the half to mcneese state by 3. This is unacceptable

[MarketingBully]

We losing at the half to mcneese state by 3. This is unacceptable

This is Howland.

[WSOPdawg]

Our defense is soft. Just letting them score at will down low. And what happened to Holman? He's regressed.

He's definitely been stinking the court up the last few games.

[Liverpooldawg]

You can't have a half like that against a team like McNeese. That was just awful. There was NO inside presence AT ALL.

[WSOPdawg]

We losing at the half to mcneese state by 3. This is unacceptable

We'll still win the game, but a good team shows up each and every time as opposed to playing to the level of their competition. I think Nick is the closest on-the-court leader that we have that will get on his team mates and we need to see that more as the season goes on. You hold each other accountable and half-assing it should not be acceptable.

[Irondawg]

What is this zone defense you speak of?

And we need to start outnin a full court press tonget these guys engaged

[msstate7]

We'll still win the game, but a good team shows up each and every time as opposed to playing to the level of their competition. I think Nick is the closest on-the-court leader that we have that will get on his team mates and we need to see that more as the season goes on. You hold each other accountable and half-assing it should not be acceptable.

Yeah, I'm not worried about losing. I'm just sick of us not playing at a high level to start a game. We won't beat good teams with this recipe

[maroonmania]

We'll still win the game, but a good team shows up each and every time as opposed to playing to the level of their competition. I think Nick is the closest on-the-court leader that we have that will get on his team mates and we need to see that more as the season goes on. You hold each other accountable and half-assing it should not be acceptable.

Probably so, we absolutely suck in almost every first half we play.

[Cloak]

We will win this game, but stats don't lie. We've shot 15 3s to their 3. Shooting this many 3s will handicap us all year. As long as we keep jacking this many up, we will never be relevant

[BayouDawg]

We are an unintelligent basketball team

[KOdawg1]

Ado hasn't fixed his dick hands I see.

[BayouDawg]

finally a little bit of life.

[maroonmania]

We will win this game, but stats don't lie. We've shot 15 3s to their 3. Shooting this many 3s will handicap us all year. As long as we keep jacking this many up, we will never be relevant

Coaching problem. If Howland and staff really wanted them to do something different they would.

[Dawg61]

Coaching problem. If Howland and staff really wanted them to do something different they would.

Howland is too nice

[maroonmania]

You would actually think we would be a better 3 point shooting team. I mean, we get so much practice at it.***

[Liverpooldawg]

Much better. It started on the defensive end, as it always does.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Missed the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half. Did we finally tighten the defense up or did they quit making shot?

Its incredible to me how bipolar we are from the 1st to 2nd half every single game.

[Bully13]

I'm guessing I'm sol here in ft worth with direct tv

[Bully13]

Espn.com says we're winning by 20. Quit urinating while sitting.

[maroonmania]

If Lamar Peters shot 3 pointers like this every game I would have no problem with how ever many he wanted to jack up.

[Cooterpoot]

Fall behind, come back to win. Except vs real teams and we come up short. Same thing every game almost.

[maroonmania]

Fall behind, come back to win. Except vs real teams and we come up short. Same thing every game almost.

We are definitely consistent. Nobody can deny that.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Good win. Against these lesser teams, we need to work on setting good screens and working the ball inside. We may have to do that at some point, might as well get good at it before then. Reference, see our 3pt season percentage.

[RougeDawg]

One thing we never do is crash down for offensive rebounds on a deep shot. Everyone starts back peddling And1 style as of the shot is always going on.

[chef dixon]

Clemson snuck out a win against St Peters today. Not exactly a power house

[robert]

Perry needs 25 minutes....Ado 15.

[MarketingBully]

Good win. Against these lesser teams, we need to work on setting good screens and working the ball inside. We may have to do that at some point, might as well get good at it before then. Reference, see our 3pt season percentage.

In these games we need to just turn up the defensive intensity at the tip. We pressured the perimeter and made it hard for them to get it inside then when they did we made a concerted effort to double the post to create bad shots or turnovers in the second half. If we started games like that on the defensive end, we would be tough as hell to beat.

[RocketDawg]

I'm guessing I'm sol here in ft worth with direct tv

With DirecTV you have streaming ability for ESPN+. The games are almost always on there. I watched a little of tonight's game using my Roku, but it really was boring, and the crowd was almost non-existent.

Couldn't tell if any students were there or not, but these out-of-conference games are usually nothing more than scrimmages, unless it's something like the Dayton game a few nights ago.

[HoopsDawg]

Perry needs 25 minutes....Ado 15.

It's time to insert Perry into the starting lineup.

[tcdog70]

How does a 6'11" chiseled dude who seems to be atheletic rebound like he is slow and 5'9"? Ado had 3 rebounds, come on Man hit the 17ing boards and play defense.

[BayouDawg]

We have some very good pieces. We have size down low, athletic guards and speed. We just have not put it all together. If we ever could we could make some noise for sure.

[MetEdDawg]

Good thing tonight is that we came out with a decent enough victory. Bama gave up a 22 point halftime lead to Georgia State and lost

[dawgday166]

Good thing tonight is that we came out with a decent enough victory. Bama gave up a 22 point halftime lead to Georgia State and lost

Good!! I want them to lose every game.

[Dawg61]

Good thing tonight is that we came out with a decent enough victory. Bama gave up a 22 point halftime lead to Georgia State and lost

Love that Bama lost but Georgia State and McNeese State are not comparable shitty programs. Only one of them lives in the dumper and that's McNeese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmcOo-bGJp0

[msstate7]

Love that Bama lost but Georgia State and McNeese State are not comparable shitty programs. Only one of them lives in the dumper and that's McNeese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmcOo-bGJp0

While you're right, the 22-point halftime lead for bama makes that loss dump worthy

[MarketingBully]

How does a 6'11" chiseled dude who seems to be atheletic rebound like he is slow and 5'9"? Ado had 3 rebounds, come on Man hit the 17ing boards and play defense.

They were saying last night his ankle could still be bothering him which I can give him a pass on that. Even with that said, we need more from Holman. Luckily this year we have Perry but Holman needs to show up every game since this is his senior year. I saw no effort on defense by him at all in the first half which is what led to them scoring easily in the paint. If Holman keeps playing like he did last night Perry needs to start for him.

[msugolf]

They were saying last night his ankle could still be bothering him which I can give him a pass on that. Even with that said, we need more from Holman. Luckily this year we have Perry but Holman needs to show up every game since this is his senior year. I saw no effort on defense by him at all in the first half which is what led to them scoring easily in the paint. If Holman keeps playing like he did last night Perry needs to start for him.

We still seem to be too much of a finesse team without any type of identity. What makes this team go? Hitting 3s? We seem lethargic and several guys loaf/play with no urgency. You do have a couple of guys busting it but all it takes is 1 or 2 not giving effort and it makes everyone else look bad.

[thf24]

They were saying last night his ankle could still be bothering him which I can give him a pass on that.

It appeared to me that the effort was there but he just wasn't elevating, so that would make sense. Hope he gets over it quickly because we're going to give up a ton of offensive rebounds without his full presence.

Perry needs to start and get 25-30 minutes simply because he's our only player who can get his own shot down low against any matchup. If Howland's going to insist on sticking with this NBA half-court approach of mostly iso's and simple screens, we've got to be able to create both at the perimeter and inside. We're more or less set for the former, but Perry's our only option for the latter. Holman can only operate inside effectively against smaller matchups.

[RougeDawg]

Perry needs 25 minutes....Ado 15.

Ado only needs minutes if others cannot play above 50%. I?d rather an injured waterboy out there than him. At lease the watweboybhas a better chance of actually holding on to the basketball. Ado is still weak and physically inferiors. How does this happen in a major basketball program?

[msu15]

Ado only needs minutes if others cannot play above 50%. I?d rather an injured waterboy out there than him. At lease the watweboybhas a better chance of actually holding on to the basketball. Ado is still weak and physically inferiors. How does this happen in a major basketball program?

Exactly why I always used to laugh when Howland would bring up how Ado grew up playing soccer instead of basketball. "He's so athletic and moves his feet so well, but he is still learning the game." HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE GREW UP NOT USING HIS HANDS AT ALL AND CAN'T CATCH THE BALL!

[StateDawg44]

Exactly why I always used to laugh when Howland would bring up how Ado grew up playing soccer instead of basketball. "He's so athletic and moves his feet so well, but he is still learning the game." HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE GREW UP NOT USING HIS HANDS AT ALL AND CAN'T CATCH THE BALL!

I grew up playing soccer and not basketball but can catch the ball just fine. Not sure how that makes a difference what other sport he played.

If he can't catch then he just can't catch at this point in life probably.

[tcdog70]

Ado is a specimen, If he could just play D and Rebound--we would be Hell on wheels. Now Perry--like LRob has a knack for rebounding. Ado just gets lost in no-mans land. If he could figure how to block out-then He could get 12 rebounds a game. he has no anticipation on where the missed shot is going.

[reno hightower]

Ado is a specimen, If he could just play D and Rebound--we would be Hell on wheels. Now Perry--like LRob has a knack for rebounding. Ado just gets lost in no-mans land. If he could figure how to block out-then He could get 12 rebounds a game. he has no anticipation on where the missed shot is going.

This is what bugs me about athletic specimens for the most part. Lets get him in the gym and give him a basketball--- unfortunately a lot of these guys just dont have the basketball instincts as the same as kids that have been playing their whole life. I doubt he ever "gets it"

[Pit Bull]

Team needs to warmup a bit, then scrimmage hard for 5 minutes before every game. Then transfer straight to the court to play the real scheduled game. That way, they are mentally and physically sharp at the beginning of the game. 5 hard minutes should not effect their endurance for the real game, but at least it should help with the slow starts. Right now, it's apparent they are just not ready to play during the first part of the game. And that's when they dig a big hole that's hard to get out of.

[smootness]

We still seem to be too much of a finesse team without any type of identity. What makes this team go? Hitting 3s? We seem lethargic and several guys loaf/play with no urgency. You do have a couple of guys busting it but all it takes is 1 or 2 not giving effort and it makes everyone else look bad.

This team is way too soft right now. We need to get much tougher if we want to really make some noise this year.