Whelp, no shot at the Outback. Pack your bags for Memphis possibly Nashville.

[klong-dog]

Is what Paul Jones is now hearing. Mississippi state screwed come bowl season, what's new?

[Cooterpoot]

Nobody will go to Memphis. It’ll be Music City. MO will go to Liberty. Outback steaks suck anyway. Cheaper meat than a porno.

[RocketDawg]

What's he hearing?

[bobcat91]

What's he hearing?

Memphis or Nashville and looking like Nashville

[maroonmania]

Why should this be surprising? Our Outback hopes went out the window with the A&M win. They jumped us in the bowl pecking order. They have an equal record, a better conference record, and their win over LSU is better than any win we have.

[Cooterpoot]

Yet we beat them and are ranked higher.

[Homedawg]

Is what Paul Jones is now hearing. Mississippi state screwed come bowl season, what's new?

How are we getting screwed?? We shouldn't be in the outback as it sits honestly. Shoulda taken care of business and butch about the nyday 6

[Pinto]

May be true but Gator said they are looking at A&M and MO. MO shouldn’t jump us. I see it playing out MSU - Outback, A&M - Gator, MO - Music.

[Homedawg]

Yet we beat them and are ranked higher.


And they have a better sec record w a loss to Clemson. So there's that. Stop crying

[Goldendawg]

Beating the dead horse, but losses to KY and Fl killed high bowl hopes and especially the pecking order, but maybe this info is incorrect. Froze in Nashville last time we were there and was given crummy tickets on the next to the top row with 1000's of empty seats below me, (yes, we moved down).

[ShotgunDawg]

Why should this be surprising? Our Outback hopes went out the window with the A&M win. They jumped us in the bowl pecking order. They have an equal record, a better conference record, and their win over LSU is better than any win we have.

But we beat them and have a higher playoff rating.

Seems to me they just make the rules up as they go along because there is no reason A&M's credentials should be considered better than ours unless you want them to be.

The entire system is bullshit and we get lowered most every year from where we could've gone.

[ShotgunDawg]

And they have a better sec record w a loss to Clemson. So there's that. Stop crying

Well, we beat them and have a higher ranking.

STFU about "stop crying". Absurd for an MSU fan to be ok with getting screwed like this on a yearly basis.

MSU has every reason to cry about this. We beat them.

[Cooterpoot]

And they have a better sec record w a loss to Clemson. So there's that. Stop crying

So a win vs a depleted LSU team is more important than actually losing to us? Naw. The fact is, the Outback pushed for A&M and the SEC gave it to them. And we out voted them in the pole!!!***

[Goldendawg]

But we beat them and have a higher playoff rating.

Seems to me they just make the rules up as they go along because there is no reason A&M's credentials should be considered better than ours unless you want them to be.

The entire system is bullshit and we get lowered most every year from where we could've gone.

$ talks. More love in the SEC office for aTm than us. We are the bully that beat up poor little UM.

[ShotgunDawg]

Beating the dead horse, but losses to KY and Fl killed high bowl hopes and especially the pecking order, but maybe this info is incorrect. Froze in Nashville last time we were there and was given crummy tickets on the next to the top row with 1000's of empty seats below me, (yes, we moved down).

Well A&M got beat by MSU.

Can't stand how MSU fans become OK with getting screwed when we have a disappointment. Just because we lost to KY and Florida, doesn't mean we deserve to get screwed.

[maroonmania]

And they have a better sec record w a loss to Clemson. So there's that. Stop crying

Exactly, would love to be in the Outback but if A&M gets the Outback over us this will not be anything like the 99 snub.

[ShotgunDawg]

$ talks. More love in the SEC office for aTm than us. We are the bully that beat up poor little UM.

Which is exactly why we should raise hell if this comes to pass

[dawgday166]

I thought it was 50/50 at best. Liberty is a big drop tho. But as far as TAM, we beat them at our place. They have better conference record and played Clemson & Bama halfway decent, and beat LSU. Not butt hurt about that myself.

[Leroy Jenkins]

When you lose to teams you should beat you lose control of your own destiny.

[maroonmania]

Well A&M got beat by MSU.

Can't stand how MSU fans become OK with getting screwed when we have a disappointment. Just because we lost to KY and Florida, doesn't mean we deserve to get screwed.

And A&M beat KY and LSU, two 9-3 teams both of whom we lost to. I'm not OK when we get screwed but that will not be case here if A&M goes over us.

[TUSK]

If teams are comparable, they usually will pick the team they believe will generate more revenue...

[ShotgunDawg]

Exactly, would love to be in the Outback but if A&M gets the Outback over us this will not be anything like the 99 snub.

Disagree mostly because this would be the 3rd time it's happened. Would should've also gone to the Outback last year.

It's become clear that the Outback wants absolutely nothing to do with MSU and that should be unacceptable for an SEC tie-in bowl.

[Liverpooldawg]

If it is Nashville there is a Preds game the night before. If you have never been to a Preds game you should go. It's awesome. We have had tickets for that game for a while. We probably will add the bowl to the trip if we are in it. It's the only one I would go to.

[Homedawg]

Well, we beat them and have a higher ranking.

STFU about "stop crying". Absurd for an MSU fan to be ok with getting screwed like this on a yearly basis.

MSU has every reason to cry about this. We beat them.

Stfu yourself. They have a better league record. It's a bowl game. Get over it. Bro

[ShotgunDawg]

And A&M beat KY and LSU, two 9-3 teams both of whom we lost to. I'm not OK when we get screwed but that will not be case here if A&M goes over us.

Just disagree. We beat them and are higher in the playoff.

Let me ask you this: if our situation and A&M's situations were reversed, who do you think the Outback takes?

[Cooterpoot]

Nobody is going to the bowl game regardless of where it?s at. Too many fans see this year as a failure and want to bitch.

[Goldendawg]

Well A&M got beat by MSU.

Can't stand how MSU fans become OK with getting screwed when we have a disappointment. Just because we lost to KY and Florida, doesn't mean we deserve to get screwed.

Not ok with it. They don't care but we do. You tell me when the SEC office did us any favors.

[Homedawg]

So a win vs a depleted LSU team is more important than actually losing to us? Naw. The fact is, the Outback pushed for A&M and the SEC gave it to them. And we out voted them in the pole!!!***


We are one spot ahead of them. Great. As I said, if we take care of our business y'all would have a bitch. We didn't. Move on

[ShotgunDawg]

Stfu yourself. They have a better league record. It's a bowl game. Get over it. Bro

They don't. We have the same record and beat them.

If the situations were reversed, who do you think the Outback takes? They still take A&M. That means we are getting screwed time and time again by the same bowl.

Wish we'd have some our shit fans stand for something instead of consistently rolling over like a lap dog.

[Goldendawg]

When you lose to teams you should beat you lose control of your own destiny.

Two demerits to you for again beating that dead horse!***

[Homedawg]

Nobody is going to the bowl game regardless of where it?s at. Too many fans see this year as a failure and want to bitch.


Yep. Fact. And true to a degree.

[dawgday166]

If we show up to play, we should destroy whoever we play. But I felt like that about any of our bowl possibilities. Now, there may be a letdown if it's Nashville. Any Outback opponent probably would've wondered what they just ran into after that game.

[Liverpooldawg]

Do you get internet points for running down MSU? Just curious.

[Homedawg]

They don't. We have the same record and beat them.

If the situations were reversed, who do you think the Outback takes? They still take A&M. That means we are getting screwed time and time again by the same bowl.

Wish we'd have some our shit fans stand for something instead of consistently rolling over like a lap dog.

Oh so they didn't go 5-3 in the league. I missed something then. You are wrong try agai.

[ShotgunDawg]

We are one spot ahead of them. Great. As I said, if we take care of our business y'all would have a bitch. We didn't. Move on

Again, reverse the situation with A&M and MSU and tell me who they are taking?

What if A&M was ahead in the playoff and beat MSU?

Of course they'd take A&M and you'd probably blame it on MSU by saying "should've beat A&M" or "should've beat Clemson"

Some of you got rocks for brains.

[ShotgunDawg]

Oh so they didn't go 5-3 in the league. I missed something then. You are wrong try agai.

Again, reverse the situation. So you're saying we go to the outback with A&M's resume?

[Cooterpoot]

We are one spot ahead of them. Great. As I said, if we take care of our business y'all would have a bitch. We didn't. Move on

I?m not bitching. I?m laughing. But nobody is going to the bowl games. Really didn?t matter where it was. You know it?s true. This whole season has been a big bitch fest. Watch us draw GA Tech too. Lol.

[ShotgunDawg]

If teams are comparable, they usually will pick the team they believe will generate more revenue...

But the Outback, Gator, Music City, Liberty, and Texas Bowls are supposed to be equal and we've never been to the Outback. If they are equal, what does it matter who produces more revenue?

[Cooterpoot]

Again, reverse the situation. So you're saying we go to the outback with A&M's resume?

No. It’s just like Tusk said. It’s about the money.

[DownwardDawg]

And they have a better sec record w a loss to Clemson. So there's that. Stop crying

Same record and we are much better than them. Would beat their ass worse if we played again. So there?s that. Stop your damn crying.

[Homedawg]

Again, reverse the situation. So you're saying we go to the outback with A&M's resume?

Well the situation isn't reversed. They had a better league record. That's a fact. Don't know why people are losing their marbles when they wouldn't go to the game anyway. Hell most bitching don't go to the games any damn way. And financially it's little difference.

[Cooterpoot]

But we were ahead in the voting.

[msudawg1200]

What exactly did Paul Jones say about this and who told him?

[msstate7]

If we had the same sec record as aTm, we'd be in a NY6 bowl. Oh well, Memphis is probably the only game I'd attend anyway, so bring it on

[DownwardDawg]

Well the situation isn't reversed. They had a better league record. That's a fact. Don't know why people are losing their marbles when they wouldn't go to the game anyway. Hell most bitching don't go to the games any damn way. And financially it's little difference.

What’s this financial difference? We sell out every bowl game. The stadium can only hold so many. If you’re talking TV rankings then maybe I understand. Still, not sure how many fans outside Sec are interested in aTm. I never watched an aTm game other than vs Texas before they joined the sec, and that was only if nothing else was on.

[ShotgunDawg]

Well the situation isn't reversed. They had a better league record. That's a fact. Don't know why people are losing their marbles when they wouldn't go to the game anyway. Hell most bitching don't go to the games any damn way. And financially it's little difference.

It's the point that everyone is sick and tired of getting 17ed by the same bowl year in and year out.

[msstate7]

What exactly did Paul Jones say about this and who told him?

I told him, so the source is solid**

[msstate7]

What’s this financial difference? We sell out every bowl game. The stadium can only hold so many. If you’re talking TV rankings then maybe I understand. Still, not sure how many fans outside Sec are interested in aTm. I never watched an aTm game other than vs Texas before they joined the sec, and that was only if nothing else was on.

We have not sold out every bowl game

[Mjoelner34]

Guy on SPS who says he has a Liberty Bowl contact said the guy told him that as of yesterday A&M was a lock for the Outback but this afternoon the Outback bowl director was torn again between us and A&M.

[Cooterpoot]

Revenue= more fans spending more money

[Homedawg]

Same record and we are much better than them. Would beat their ass worse if we played again. So there?s that. Stop your damn crying.

For the 700th time for those of you that can't read, like yourself, we don't have the same LEAGUE record. They have a better one. It's a fact. And had they played KSU instead of Clemson, they would have a better overall record. But let's not let facts get in the way.

[DownwardDawg]

We have not sold out every bowl game

We were setting records until we started going to the same bowl every year.

[ShotgunDawg]

Guy on SPS who says he has a Liberty Bowl contact said the guy told him that as of yesterday A&M was a lock for the Outback but this afternoon the Outback bowl director was torn again between us and A&M.

The Outback bowl needs to do what is right and Sankey needs to make sure they do.

Yes A&M played Clemson but they also played South Carolina while we played Florida.

[Homedawg]

What’s this financial difference? We sell out every bowl game. The stadium can only hold so many. If you’re talking TV rankings then maybe I understand. Still, not sure how many fans outside Sec are interested in aTm. I never watched an aTm game other than vs Texas before they joined the sec, and that was only if nothing else was on.

Sold out every bowl game? What planet do you live on??? Hahahahaha

[ShotgunDawg]

For the 700th time for those of you that can't read, like yourself, we don't have the same LEAGUE record. They have a better one. It's a fact. And had they played KSU instead of Clemson, they would have a better overall record. But let's not let facts get in the way.

Reverse resumes, who do they pick?

You've yet to answer this question.

[ShotgunDawg]

For the 700th time for those of you that can't read, like yourself, we don't have the same LEAGUE record. They have a better one. It's a fact. And had they played KSU instead of Clemson, they would have a better overall record. But let's not let facts get in the way.

We played Florida and they played South Carolina.

[RocketDawg]

We have not sold out every bowl game

Correct. Nowhere near. Didn't even attend the Orange Bowl well as I recall.

One thing going for us to get the Outback is that we're physically closer; but their school is 3 times as big as us and probably has more alumni and fans in Florida than we do.

[DownwardDawg]

For the 700th time for those of you that can't read, like yourself, we don't have the same LEAGUE record. They have a better one. It's a fact. And had they played KSU instead of Clemson, they would have a better overall record. But let's not let facts get in the way.

I didn’t realize it was all about conference record. I thought it was overall record. I guess I misunderstood. Stop being such a douche. You need some vagisil.
And it’s also a fact we are a much better team than them. Game was never close and we got better after that.

[Jack Lambert]

Don't the bowls have picking order? If it is Music City or Liberty I chose Liberty.

[Mjoelner34]

Although I hope it doesn't happen, I can see A&M getting the Outback over us. What I can't see is the Citrus picking UK over A&M causing A&M to drop to the Outback. They have the same conference record, A&M beat them head to head, played a tougher schedule (Bama, Clemson) and every loss is to a team going bowling. UK got the hell beat out of them by 5-win UT. Plus, a much larger national footprint and fan following in football.

[ShotgunDawg]

Don't the bowls have picking order?

Not between the Outback, Gator, Music City, Liberty, and Texas, which makes it all the more egregious that the SEC is allowing this to happen when they could easily send A&M to the Gator and all is well.

[dawgday166]

Reverse resumes, who do they pick?

You've yet to answer this question.

By resume .. I think it's a toss up. By eye test, I think we'd destroy TAM second go round too. But there is a part of me that wonders what happens if our FL game offense shows up. But I do believe strongly we're pretty far past the FL game offense.

[msstate7]

I didn’t realize it was all about conference record. I thought it was overall record. I guess I misunderstood. Stop being such a douche. You need some vagisil.
And it’s also a fact we are a much better team than them. Game was never close and we got better after that.

It's all about money, and they will generate more. We should be mad at our coaches for not getting us to a NY6

[Goldendawg]

We have not sold out every bowl game

Most of the 362* bowl games now have more empty seats than those with fans in them. I bet it's been a while since a bowl we played in was a sellout. Doesn't ESPN own some of these bowls now (TV programming?).

[GreenheadDawg]

Honestly, it doesn’t matter if it’s the outback or the maxi pad bowl. Anything less than a NY6 bowl was a failure with this team. We lost at least 2 games we shouldn’t have and now we will suffer the consequences. I’m going to the game regardless, unless it’s in Memphis, but carry on.

[Homedawg]

Reverse resumes, who do they pick?

You've yet to answer this question.

I think it's a draw at best. They went 5-3 in the league. We played them at home I think sec record counts

[Cooterpoot]

We need to get Longhorn to start a bowl game so we can eat steak.

[Goldendawg]

Don't the bowls have picking order? If it is Music City or Liberty I chose Liberty.

I personally put the Liberty right above the B'ham Bowl. If you don't make the playoffs or NY6, one of the best things you get from a lower bowl is a chance for one more win and especially the extra practice time for the team.

[ShotgunDawg]

It's all about money, and they will generate more. We should be mad at our coaches for not getting us to a NY6

You're not getting it. When the conference is stating that the Outback, Gator, Music City, Liberty, and Texas Bowls are all on the same level, why is the Outback getting preference?

If we make less money for the Outback, then your just pushing the less money to Music City, which they say is equal.

The entire system is a complete joke. MSU fans should boycott the bowl game whenever it is, unless it's the Outback.

[msstate7]

Most of the 362* bowl games now have more empty seats than those with fans in them. I bet it's been a while since a bowl we played in was a sellout. Doesn't ESPN won some of these bowls now (TV programming?).

You could buy our taxslayer, st Pete, and orange bowl tix for single digits. I bout an orange bowl ticket just to have it (didn't go) for $3

[msstate7]

We need to get Longhorn to start a bowl game so we can eat steak.

Western sizzlin**

[ShotgunDawg]

I think it's a draw at best. They went 5-3 in the league. We played them at home I think sec record counts

They got to play South Carolina while we had to play Florida.

So you think the Outback takes us with A&M's resume?

[Saltydog]

over this, so tread lightly grasshopper!

[Cooterpoot]

Western sizzlin**

Hell yeah! Thick top sirloin is da bomb!

[ShotgunDawg]

over this, so tread lightly grasshopper!

Why do you post your message in the subject line?

[Homedawg]

They got to play South Carolina while we had to play Florida.

So you think the Outback takes us with A&M's resume?

If we were 5-3 in the league and they were 4-4 and he same thing happened you would complain and I would side w you. I normally enjoy your posting, but we will agree to disagree, I'm done with this one. Now start another thread about something else.

[ShotgunDawg]

If we were 5-3 in the league and they were 4-4 and he same thing happened you would complain and I would side w you. I normally enjoy your posting, but we will agree to disagree, I'm done with this one. Now start another thread about something else.

Agree to disagree.

Same overall record and we won on the field. Played different conference schedules that determined a 1 game difference.

[Cooterpoot]

It only sucks because we are a better team than A&M. We’ve proven that. But the bowl gives their preference, the SEC usually works it out, and our school has a preference too. It’s all about money for the bowl cities and ticket sales. Ain’t nobody wanting teams from MS. We po as hell!

[Coursesuper]

Wow, the Liberty would be a kick in the snardlies, the Liberty Bowl itself has become a real dump.

[Liverpooldawg]

If we were 5-3 in the league and they were 4-4 and he same thing happened you would complain and I would side w you. I normally enjoy your posting, but we will agree to disagree, I'm done with this one. Now start another thread about something else.

Good.

[maroonmania]

Honestly, it doesn’t matter if it’s the outback or the maxi pad bowl. Anything less than a NY6 bowl was a failure with this team. We lost at least 2 games we shouldn’t have and now we will suffer the consequences. I’m going to the game regardless, unless it’s in Memphis, but carry on.

Yep, I keep asking myself, how in the heck does a team that only allowed 12 total TDs all year lose 4 freakin' games? Then I quickly remember that we actually had 4 different SEC games that we scored 7 points or less in. This was just about the oddest year I can ever remember us having in football.

[Cooterpoot]

If we were 5-3 in the league and they were 4-4 and he same thing happened you would complain and I would side w you. I normally enjoy your posting, but we will agree to disagree, I'm done with this one. Now start another thread about something else.

It really has nothing to do with their conference record. It was more about getting that 8th win.

[Goldendawg]

You're not getting it. When the conference is stating that the Outback, Gator, Music City, Liberty, and Texas Bowls are all on the same level, why is the Outback getting preference?

If we make less money for the Outback, then your just pushing the less money to Music City, which they say is equal.

The entire system is a complete joke. MSU fans should boycott the bowl game whenever it is, unless it's the Outback.

Many of these lower tier bowls are so poorly attended that it looks like a boycott already. Corporate sponsors and TV & are big $.

[Goldendawg]

Wow, the Liberty would be a kick in the snardlies, the Liberty Bowl itself has become a real dump.

Have you checked to see if there is a rock concert at the Mid South Coliseum or 'rasslin there the night before the game? Oh, never mind.****

[Liverpooldawg]

I personally put the Liberty right above the B'ham Bowl. If you don't make the playoffs or NY6, one of the best things you get from a lower bowl is a chance for one more win and especially the extra practice time for the team.

Liberty has upped its payout. It's an SEC/Big 12 tie in now. The caliber of opponent there will most likely be higher than Nashville or possibly even the Outback.

[Cooterpoot]

If the Liberty wants to be taken seriously, they need a better venue. It’s a crime infested city with good eats. You might get shot, but them ribs....

[maroonmania]

If the Liberty wants to be taken seriously, they need a better venue. It’s a crime infested city with good eats. You might get shot, but them ribs....

Yep, its becoming only a small step above playing at Legion Field given the location.

[Jack Lambert]

I think it's a draw at best. They went 5-3 in the league. We played them at home I think sec record counts

They lost to Auburn. They only played four road games we played five. We played more teams in the final CFP rankings. We are ranked higher, we have the same over all record and we beat them head to head. we played LSU on the road and they played them at home. Switch it around we probably win and they probably lose or swap SC for Florida and we are 5-3.

The facts remain we will get screw.

[Goldendawg]

It only sucks because we are a better team than A&M. We?ve proven that. But the bowl gives their preference, the SEC usually works it out, and our school has a preference too. It?s all about money for the bowl cities and ticket sales. Ain?t nobody wanting teams from MS. We po as hell!

Not me! Already got a second mortgage on the double-wide and pulling the V8 out of my old Chevy pickup for a V6 to buy less gas for the trip!

[Cooterpoot]

And I like Memphis to a point. I mean the food is second to New Orleans, but that’s about it. I enjoyed our last bowl game there. But the city itself is a bigger Jackson.

[Cooterpoot]

Say what you want, Nashville is a solid trip. Plenty of music and drinks. Pretty nice stadium too. Short ride is a plus.

[ShotgunDawg]

Say what you want, Nashville is a solid trip. Plenty of music and drinks. Pretty nice stadium too. Short ride is a plus.

Agree. It's the disrespect & point that we are fighting here.

MSU deserved the Outback bowl

[Coursesuper]

Say what you want, Nashville is a solid trip. Plenty of music and drinks. Pretty nice stadium too. Short ride is a plus.

A trip to Nashville is 10x better than Memphis.

[Johnson85]

Who in the hell would be getting the Texas? A&M is really the only team we're competing against that a bowl committee would get excited about as far as name recognition and fan base size. We're competing against Missouri, U.K., USCe, vandy. Worst case scenario lsu too just because they refuse to let 4 sec schools in the NY6. Even then, unless the liberty is just begging for us and the sec throws them a bone, there's no reason for us to 'fall' to the liberty of our administration doesn't want to go there.

[Bothrops]

This is originally why I was against the last SEC expansion.

[Jack Lambert]

A trip to Nashville is 10x better than Memphis.

I don't drink alcohol, I don't party and I don't tail gate. In my case Liberty works better but I will make the trip to Nashville.

[Cooterpoot]

I don't drink alcohol, I don't party and I don't tail gate. In my case Liberty works better but I will make the trip to Nashville.

You Lie! All State fans drink.
Eventually

[Goldendawg]

This is originally why I was against the last SEC expansion.

But, but that Mo. school fits in so well and has so much in common with so many SEC schools.

[Liverpooldawg]

Nashville is a blast. Great trip.

[Coursesuper]

I don't drink alcohol, I don't party and I don't tail gate. In my case Liberty works better but I will make the trip to Nashville.

It's still 10x better. Much nicer surroundings.

[HoopsDawg]

Music City is a great bowl and a fun trip. I won't be going to Memphis.

[Jack Lambert]

You Lie! All State fans drink.
Eventually

I don't lie about drinking alcohol. I got drunk once when I was 16 never tried any alcohol in any form since. I am now 53 and spent five years active duty in the Marine Corp. Trust me if the Marines didn't drive me to drink being a MSU fan will never. I am too strong mentally.

[Bothrops]

But, but that Mo. school fits in so well and has so much in common with so many SEC schools.

Mizzou fans still aren't in the SEC, and probably never will be.

[Cooterpoot]

I drink your share Jack. It’s ok.

[Jack Lambert]

I drink your share Jack. It’s ok.

You can have all five years of my Marine Corp years worth! :)

[Homedawg]

They lost to Auburn. They only played four road games we played five. We played more teams in the final CFP rankings. We are ranked higher, we have the same over all record and we beat them head to head. we played LSU on the road and they played them at home. Switch it around we probably win and they probably lose or swap SC for Florida and we are 5-3.

The facts remain we will get screw.

They played number one and 2 in the ranking what are you talking about. How could we have played more? Fact check just saying

[mparkerfd20]

I said Saturday night A&M would and should jump us with that bullshit win. I'm still pissed they won. I still firmly believe that they deserve to be ahead of us with a 5-3 record in SEC too unfortunately...Even though we beat them head to head.

[DogsofAnarchy]

Why should this be surprising? Our Outback hopes went out the window with the A&M win. They jumped us in the bowl pecking order. They have an equal record, a better conference record, and their win over LSU is better than any win we have.

We beat THEM you moron. And we are ranked higher than them.

[msudawg1200]

Well, the Gator Bowl President stared earlier they’d either have A&M or South Carolina. He said he was pretty sure Kentucky is going to the Citrus, and we are going to the Outback. Again, who did Paul Jones get his info from?

[Cooterpoot]

They got KY and LSU at home, we didn’t. We got FL, they got SC. They got ref help. We got ref raped. They got Clemson and lost. We got KSU and won. Hell, everybody knows we’re the better team. But money talks and bitching walks. It had nothing to do with conference record.

[msstate7]

Well, the Gator Bowl President stared earlier they’d either have A&M or South Carolina. He said he was pretty sure Kentucky is going to the Citrus, and we are going to the Outback. Again, who did Paul Jones get his info from?

Let's assume we are in outback and Ohio st beats NW... Ohio st and Michigan in NY6, Penn st to citrus, so NW to outback?

[Homedawg]

They got KY and LSU at home, we didn’t. We got FL, they got SC. They got ref help. We got ref raped. They got Clemson and lost. We got KSU and won. Hell, everybody knows we’re the better team. But money talks and bitching walks. It had nothing to do with conference record.

You were making a decent point- right up until you said they got Clemson and lost and we got KSU and won. Dear Lord what a dumbass point. LSU and kentucky disagree w the everyone knows part ....

[msudawg1200]

Yep, would probably be Northwestern. In fact, both Brett McMurphy and Paul Jones’ own 247 predicted this earlier today.

[Commercecomet24]

Say what you want, Nashville is a solid trip. Plenty of music and drinks. Pretty nice stadium too. Short ride is a plus.

Yeah I go to Nashville a couple times a year on business. Good city, lots of stuff to do, traffics not terrible, stadiums nice and easy to get to/get out of.

[Pit Bull]

Yeah....I've heard we are likely to play Pitt in the Music City. Blah.....I like Nashville ok, but Pitt does not excite me. I would rather play Miami. Liberty is about the same as Nashville, but shorter distance for most MSU fans. The Liberty team welcome party is to be held in the Big Bass Pro Pyramid Arena Store. I would love to attend that, but you have to put up some major bucks to get in. Beale St. is a lot of fun and the Grizz play the Boston Celtics on the Saturday night before the game on Monday. If a decent Big 12 opponent were to be selected, the Liberty might even be more attractive than the Music City. Still a few dominoes to fall though this coming weekend. I wouldn't count us out of any bowl below the Citrus just yet.

[Todd4State]

Well, the Gator Bowl President stared earlier they’d either have A&M or South Carolina. He said he was pretty sure Kentucky is going to the Citrus, and we are going to the Outback. Again, who did Paul Jones get his info from?

Paul is certainly not going to leak something that he doesn't have tangible evidence of. At least not typically.

I imagine he heard it from someone at MSU and is leaking it now to try to save the disappointment Sunday.

Personally, I hate it for myself because it's a lot more inconvenient for me to try to go to Nashville but if that's where we go I'll try to make it.

[Jarius]

Paul got his info from bowl reps. That’s what he said on 247

[Political Hack]

Music City is more fun than Outback.

[Tbonewannabe]

Gator Bowl rep said they were pretty much going to get either A&M or South Carolina on Twitter. I don't know why you would choose South Carolina if that was the case.

[Ezsoil]

If it's about building attendance in the bowls ...A&M in the Texas bowl should be a sell out any other team and that stadium will be empty...

[Jack Lambert]

Gator Bowl rep said they were pretty much going to get either A&M or South Carolina on Twitter. I don't know why you would choose South Carolina if that was the case.

I think SC would bring a bigger crowd.

[Tbonewannabe]

I think SC would bring a bigger crowd.

The guy's quote was basically picking between them, SC is not a far drive but A&M has the largest alumni in the SEC.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Yep, would probably be Northwestern. In fact, both Brett McMurphy and Paul Jones’ own 247 predicted this earlier today.

I want to play an interesting opponent more than I care about what bowl we're in. Playing Northwestern would suck, it sucked last time we played them. They play in a horrible division, and according to S&P+, were incredibly lucky to win their horrible division.

[klong-dog]

Playing Pitt would suck too.

[klong-dog]

In order for my interest vs opp that I've actually heard or seen listed as a possibility, regardless of location.

Penn State
Mich state
Wisconsin
Iowa
Miami


Iowa State
Oklahoma state
Northwestern
Pitt





Ga Tech

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Playing Pitt would suck too.
Is that who's being projected to the Music City? God, everything I just said about Northwestern can just be replaced with Pitt except that we haven't played them in recent memory.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Gator Bowl rep said they were pretty much going to get either A&M or South Carolina on Twitter. I don't know why you would choose South Carolina if that was the case.

I see Belk Bowl for USCe. They could draw a decent crowd there.

[Jarius]

Gator Bowl rep said they were pretty much going to get either A&M or South Carolina on Twitter. I don't know why you would choose South Carolina if that was the case.

They wouldn not. A&M would not pick them over the Outback though, and the Outback would not pick USC over ATM either. It is like Tinder dating, both of them have to want the other for a match. A&M is not matching with the gator bowl (a soft 6) when the Outback bowl (a firm 7) is available.

[Bothrops]

If it's about building attendance in the bowls ...A&M in the Texas bowl should be a sell out any other team and that stadium will be empty...

They may feel the same about the Houston Bowl as we do the Liberty. Hell..there are more A&M alums in Houston than anywhere else, including College Station.

[Bdawg]

For the 700th time for those of you that can't read, like yourself, we don't have the same LEAGUE record. They have a better one. It's a fact. And had they played KSU instead of Clemson, they would have a better overall record. But let's not let facts get in the way.

Well then the playoff committee should rank them ahead of us. But since they are not, then the CFP must think we are better than them. So I figure we deserve the better bowl.

[crackerjax]

Yep, would probably be Northwestern. In fact, both Brett McMurphy and Paul Jones? own 247 predicted this earlier today.

Would actually be surprised if Northwestern is in the Outback. Big Ten has a rule for its bowl tie-ins of five different teams in six years if possible, and NW just went there three years ago.

[Bully13]

We had the talent to beat ky; uf & LSU but shit the bed instead.

[Really Clark?]

Well then the playoff committee should rank them ahead of us. But since they are not, then the CFP must think we are better than them. So I figure we deserve the better bowl.

After the NY6, when selecting the pool of 6 bowls, CFP rankings doesn’t have to have a big bearing. For the SEC the league standings, school and bowl requests (each make 3 requests of where to go or what team they want), location, prior selection (both the Gator and Us have scratched the other off this year because of being there so much), etc weigh just as much or more than the rankings. Jumping over a team 2 spots ahead of you in the standings was going to be an issue. Can’t think of that happening since they have gone to this new format. But we also have to wait to everything shakes out over the weekend. What happens if we have upsets and it drops LSU down to the Citrus (they are the only one who has direct pick of who they get)? And agree or disagree, the Pool of 6 is suppose considered equal bowls and that’s what the league is going to tell fans (of all of the schools that think they got screwed). Music City I think is in lead over Liberty right now.

[StateDawg44]

They don't. We have the same record and beat them.

If the situations were reversed, who do you think the Outback takes? They still take A&M. That means we are getting screwed time and time again by the same bowl.

Wish we'd have some our shit fans stand for something instead of consistently rolling over like a lap dog.


What exactly are you doing to "stand for something"? Taking it to a MSU message board? Hahaha, get a grip.

All you are doing is bitching at other MSU fans. You talk so much like you are going door to door or something. You would be laughed out of the door if you actually had the opportunity to present a case to some one that actually mattered with all of this.

[Jack Lambert]

The guy's quote was basically picking between them, SC is not a far drive but A&M has the largest alumni in the SEC.

No doubt.

[Jack Lambert]

Did Bo say that the Chairman of the Gator Bowl say on radio yesterday that Miss State will be in the Outback Bowl playing either North Western or Penn State? Guy here at my work heard it.

[Tbonewannabe]

Did Bo say that the Chairman of the Gator Bowl say on radio yesterday that Miss State will be in the Outback Bowl playing either North Western or Penn State? Guy here at my work heard it.

That was where I got the quote about A&M and SC. It was a tweet by an A&M fan so they could have left out the part about us. I didn't actually hear the interview.

[Really Clark?]

Did Bo say that the Chairman of the Gator Bowl say on radio yesterday that Miss State will be in the Outback Bowl playing either North Western or Penn State? Guy here at my work heard it.

Don’t know about Bo but on another station he stated

https://mobile.twitter.com/trumaroonnation/status/1067985825592471559?s=21

[Dawgology]

That was where I got the quote about A&M and SC. It was a tweet by an A&M fan so they could have left out the part about us. I didn't actually hear the interview.

I have heard for the past week from several different sources that we are headed to Outback for Penn st. Matchup. They want it bad. Now, all that could change and you have to understand that these bowl reps have to court several different schools and the SEC. No bowl rep is going to say “we only want this certain team”. So all of this “we are hearing this bowl likes that team” and “this team has been told they are headed here” is all just part of the wheeling and dealing. End of the day I would love to go to the Outback Bowl for a Penn St matchup. It would be really interesting. But I’m also fine with the Music City if it comes to that. Six/half-a-dozen as they say.

[msstate7]

I have heard for the past week from several different sources that we are headed to Outback for Penn st. Matchup. They want it bad. Now, all that could change and you have to understand that these bowl reps have to court several different schools and the SEC. No bowl rep is going to say “we only want this certain team”. So all of this “we are hearing this bowl likes that team” and “this team has been told they are headed here” is all just part of the wheeling and dealing. End of the day I would love to go to the Outback Bowl for a Penn St matchup. It would be really interesting. But I’m also fine with the Music City if it comes to that. Six/half-a-dozen as they say.

Why would citrus pass on penn st?

[PMDawg]

What exactly are you doing to "stand for something"? Taking it to a MSU message board? Hahaha, get a grip.

All you are doing is bitching at other MSU fans. You talk so much like you are going door to door or something. You would be laughed out of the door if you actually had the opportunity to present a case to some one that actually mattered with all of this.

This is such an awesome response to this guy. Kudos, you get rep!

[Commercecomet24]

Don?t know about Bo but on another station he stated

https://mobile.twitter.com/trumaroonnation/status/1067985825592471559?s=21

I read this last night as well. Catlett has been doing this a long time and he's definitely "in the loop". Also heard from some players that it's Outback(fwiw), but who knows a lot can happen between now and Sunday.

[Thrill1]

Here is the link to story from Gator Bowl prez:

https://247sports.com/college/texas-am/Article/Gator-bowl-projection-South-Carolina-Texas-AM-President-on-potential-matchups-125520598/

[Bubb Rubb]

Well A&M got beat by MSU.

Can't stand how MSU fans become OK with getting screwed when we have a disappointment. Just because we lost to KY and Florida, doesn't mean we deserve to get screwed.

You don't get it at all.

Outback would look for any reason to want A&M over us because they have a bigger alumni base and travel better for bowl games. Plus, their name is more attractive for TV ratings. Sure we beat them head-to-head. Sure we are above them in the rankings (by one spot). But they also beat two teams that we lost to, finished higher in the conference than we did, and had a more difficult OOC schedule than we did.

It doesn't have to be a convincing argument for the Outback. They just need a valid reason. They have several. Getting upset about it is not going to change it.

[msudawglb]

You don't get it at all.

Outback would look for any reason to want A&M over us because they have a bigger alumni base and travel better for bowl games. Plus, their name is more attractive for TV ratings. Sure we beat them head-to-head. Sure we are above them in the rankings (by one spot). But they also beat two teams that we lost to, finished higher in the conference than we did, and had a more difficult OOC schedule than we did.

It doesn't have to be a convincing argument for the Outback. They just need a valid reason. They have several. Getting upset about it is not going to change it.

It's sad that its up to the SEC. If you look at the CFP rankings, Mississippi State has always been considered the best of its grouping. When we had 2 losses, we were the highest ranked 2 loss team. Same can be said when we had 3 losses and then 4 losses. We are considered the best of the 4 loss teams in the nation. I hate that we had the fight during the Egg Bowl. That fight along with the SEC having to rule on the players and set up a meeting with our AD's...may very well influence the decision to send A&M to the Outback over us.

[Maroonthirteen]

Nobody is going to the bowl game regardless of where it?s at. Too many fans see this year as a failure and want to bitch.

No kidding. State didn?t even have a great showing of fans for the Egg Bowl.

[Maroonthirteen]

You don't get it at all.

Outback would look for any reason to want A&M over us because they have a bigger alumni base and travel better for bowl games. Plus, their name is more attractive for TV ratings. Sure we beat them head-to-head. Sure we are above them in the rankings (by one spot). But they also beat two teams that we lost to, finished higher in the conference than we did, and had a more difficult OOC schedule than we did.

It doesn't have to be a convincing argument for the Outback. They just need a valid reason. They have several. Getting upset about it is not going to change it.

It’s been going on since at least 94. We beat Tennessee that year and had a better overall record than them in regular season. State went to the Peach. Tennessee went to the Gator bowl.

[Dawgology]

Why would citrus pass on penn st?

That's just what I'm being told. My folks are pretty locked in with MSU athletics....not so much on Penn St. All I know is that Outback wants a MSU/Penn St. matchup badly. DOn't know if they will get it but that is just what I've been told on multiple occassions by three difference people.

[ShotgunDawg]

You don't get it at all.

Outback would look for any reason to want A&M over us because they have a bigger alumni base and travel better for bowl games. Plus, their name is more attractive for TV ratings. Sure we beat them head-to-head. Sure we are above them in the rankings (by one spot). But they also beat two teams that we lost to, finished higher in the conference than we did, and had a more difficult OOC schedule than we did.

It doesn't have to be a convincing argument for the Outback. They just need a valid reason. They have several. Getting upset about it is not going to change it.

- they lost to us and Auburn. So your "they beat two teams we lost to" doesn't fly.

- They played South Carolina and we played Florida. There is your conference record difference.

There isn't a penny's worth of difference between the resumes other than we beat them and we are ranked higher by the most important poll.

Right on par with our shitty fan base to vouch for other schools over your own. It's a Mississippi tradition that's held this state back for 150 years.

[Dawgology]

No kidding. State didn?t even have a great showing of fans for the Egg Bowl.

You are correct. Our fan support is horrible. We should probably not even be given a bowl bid at all. Good call.

[msstate7]

- they lost to us and Auburn. So your "they beat two teams we lost to" doesn't fly.

- They played South Carolina and we played Florida. There is your conference record difference.

There isn't a penny's worth of difference between the resumes other than we beat them and we are ranked higher by the most important poll.

Right on par with our shitty fan base to vouch for other schools over your own. It's a Mississippi tradition that's held this state back for 150 years.

You act like what we post here matter to outback officials. They don't give a sheet if we mad or not.

[Dawgology]

- they lost to us and Auburn. So your "they beat two teams we lost to" doesn't fly.

- They played South Carolina and we played Florida. There is your conference record difference.

There isn't a penny's worth of difference between the resumes other than we beat them and we are ranked higher by the most important poll.

Right on par with our shitty fan base to vouch for other schools over your own. It's a Mississippi tradition that's held this state back for 150 years.

Agreed. And they will couch it with "I'm just telling the truth" or "the truth hurts". I hate this type of fan. I'm not saying to follow blindly like a sheep but for the love of god don't throw your team under the bus when it isn't really even warranted.

[Dawgology]

You act like what we post here matter to outback officials. They don't give a sheet if we mad or not.

May not impact what the bowl decides but it does in a way impact perception. There are plenty of analysts, media folks, recruits, and fans that read these boards.

[Cooterpoot]

Yeah, this is the first winning season I can remember I'm glad is just about over. The ridiculous bitching got out of hand (me included) and is still lingering. We got crazy. But that didn't affect the Outback unless it was with our own people.

[Maroonthirteen]

You are correct. Our fan support is horrible. We should probably not even be given a bowl bid at all. Good call.

That isn’t what i was saying at all.

My point, is that if State wants to get Florida NYD bowl bids, then our attendance needs to be better.

The egg bowl is a rivalry game in our own state. We didn’t fill up either of our designated sections. So why would someone on the outside think we would fill up their stadium many more miles away?

[gravedigger]

Is what Paul Jones is now hearing. Mississippi state screwed come bowl season, what's new?

I'm hearing Citrus from a pretty good source, so there's that.

Personally, it really doesnt matter to me. It's the bowl practices that matter. Like a 2nd Spring training and that is what we need the most.

I think everyone needs to chill. This just isnt worth getting bent out of shape over.

If you arent playing for the championship, it's just another game.

[Commercecomet24]

That isn’t what i was saying at all.

My point, is that if State wants to get Florida NYD bowl bids, then our attendance needs to be better.

The egg bowl is a rivalry game in our own State. We didn’t fill up either of our designated sections. So why would someone on the outside think we would fill up there stadium many more miles away?

We always travel well to Bowl games, always have.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We always travel well to Bowl games, always have.

We've really only travelled well to 4 bowl games this entire century. 07 Liberty, 10 Gator, 12 Music City, and 13 Liberty. The other bowls have been very sparsely attended. We'll always have a decent number, but we've just about used up all our good publicity from the 10 Gator Bowl with how well we travelled.

[Commercecomet24]

We've really only travelled well to 4 bowl games this entire century. 07 Liberty, 10 Gator, 12 Music City, and 13 Liberty. The other bowls have been very sparsely attended. We'll always have a decent number, but we've just about used up all our good publicity from the 10 Gator Bowl with how well we travelled.

Bowl games in general have had sparse attendance but we've always held our end up better than most. Just look at the crowds outside of the big bowl games, there's always been plenty of maroon and white at ours.

[Jarius]

The SEC front office is who you should be upset with. With the new rules, the SEC is supposed to make sure teams do not get screwed. A&M and MSU deserve Florida bowls and South Carolina deserves to go to some type of cold weather bowl. South Carolina getting to go to a Florida bowl at 7-5 instead of a shitty bowl is what is wrong with this entire scenario. The SEC should send A&M to the Gator Bowl and State to the Outback. They are the same level bowl, but one team has been to the Gator 3 times in a decade and one team has not. Put South Carolina in a bowl game that a 7-5 team deserves. The bowl games are always going to look out for their best interests and you can not blame them. It is the SECs job to look out for their member institutions, and they are allowing a 7-5 USC team to go to Florida and sending an 8-4 MSU team to 20 degree weather.

[duncflydawg]

The SEC front office is who you should be upset with. With the new rules, the SEC is supposed to make sure teams do not get screwed. A&M and MSU deserve Florida bowls and South Carolina deserves to go to some type of cold weather bowl. South Carolina getting to go to a Florida bowl at 7-5 instead of a shitty bowl is what is wrong with this entire scenario. The SEC should send A&M to the Gator Bowl and State to the Outback. They are the same level bowl, but one team has been to the Gator 3 times in a decade and one team has not. Put South Carolina in a bowl game that a 7-5 team deserves. The bowl games are always going to look out for their best interests and you can not blame them. It is the SECs job to look out for their member institutions, and they are allowing a 7-5 USC team to go to Florida and sending an 8-4 MSU team to 20 degree weather.

This!

[msudawg1200]

The SEC front office is who you should be upset with. With the new rules, the SEC is supposed to make sure teams do not get screwed. A&M and MSU deserve Florida bowls and South Carolina deserves to go to some type of cold weather bowl. South Carolina getting to go to a Florida bowl at 7-5 instead of a shitty bowl is what is wrong with this entire scenario. The SEC should send A&M to the Gator Bowl and State to the Outback. They are the same level bowl, but one team has been to the Gator 3 times in a decade and one team has not. Put South Carolina in a bowl game that a 7-5 team deserves. The bowl games are always going to look out for their best interests and you can not blame them. It is the SECs job to look out for their member institutions, and they are allowing a 7-5 USC team to go to Florida and sending an 8-4 MSU team to 20 degree weather.

I actually think the SEC wants to do this. I really do. If there is a snag it is the Outback Bowl wanting A&M which is where the SEC should tell them to jump in the lake and replace them next year with another bowl like the Vegas. I'm sure the Alamo would also jump at the chance for a SEC team. That way we could play the PAC 10 in a bowl. Let the Outback have an ACC vs Big 10 game.

[Jarius]

I actually think the SEC wants to do this. I really do. If there is a snag it is the Outback Bowl wanting A&M which is where the SEC should tell them to jump in the lake and replace them next year with another bowl like the Vegas. I'm sure the Alamo would also jump at the chance for a SEC team. That way we could play the PAC 10 in a bowl. Let the Outback have an ACC vs Big 10 game.

If the SEC wanted to do that they would do it. Those 6 bowls do not get to chose their team. The SEC does. Those mid level bowls need the sec much more than the SEC needs them. The entire point of the SEC getting to chose who goes where was to prevent this happening. They are failing at their job, per the usual.

[BB30]

- they lost to us and Auburn. So your "they beat two teams we lost to" doesn't fly.

- They played South Carolina and we played Florida. There is your conference record difference.

There isn't a penny's worth of difference between the resumes other than we beat them and we are ranked higher by the most important poll.

Right on par with our shitty fan base to vouch for other schools over your own. It's a Mississippi tradition that's held this state back for 150 years.

If the Gator, Outback, Belk etc. are all the same tier now why does it matter? We may end up getting the Outback regardless and you will have gotten all worked up over absolutely nothing.

[confucius say]

I think it's a draw at best. They went 5-3 in the league. We played them at home I think sec record counts

If that's the case, Aggie should go to citrus ahead of Ky because Aggie is ahead of Ky in league standings as a result of head to head.

[msudawg1200]

If the SEC wanted to do that they would do it. Those 6 bowls do not get to chose their team. The SEC does. Those mid level bowls need the sec much more than the SEC needs them. The entire point of the SEC getting to chose who goes where was to prevent this happening. They are failing at their job, per the usual.


While the SEC does place them the bowls have a big say in the matter.They tell the SEC who they want and fight to get them. Like you said the SEC could stop this if they wanted.

[Jarius]

While the SEC does place them the bowls have a big say in the matter.They tell the SEC who they want and fight to get them. Like you said the SEC could stop this if they wanted.

The SEC makes the final call on all except the Citrus, and those bowls need the SEC way more than the SEC needs them.

[Johnson85]

If the SEC wanted to do that they would do it. Those 6 bowls do not get to chose their team. The SEC does. Those mid level bowls need the sec much more than the SEC needs them. The entire point of the SEC getting to chose who goes where was to prevent this happening. They are failing at their job, per the usual.

Pretty sure the entire point of the SEC getting to choose was to incentivize the lower paying of the Pool of 6 Bowls to up their payouts. So if say the Liberty wants whoever would go to them under the prior bowl order, then yes, the SEC would presumably make sure that happens at least some of the time to make sure the Liberty Bowl feels like they got a good return on their higher payout. But if the Liberty bowl wants say MSU b/c we are ranked and havea history of filling up their stadium, and the Outback wants someone taht should be below us in the pecking order, then the SEC doesn't have any indentive to change that, unless it's to keep the schools happy, which will generally be secondary to what the bowl committees want.

[Jarius]

Pretty sure the entire point of the SEC getting to choose was to incentivize the lower paying of the Pool of 6 Bowls to up their payouts. So if say the Liberty wants whoever would go to them under the prior bowl order, then yes, the SEC would presumably make sure that happens at least some of the time to make sure the Liberty Bowl feels like they got a good return on their higher payout. But if the Liberty bowl wants say MSU b/c we are ranked and havea history of filling up their stadium, and the Outback wants someone taht should be below us in the pecking order, then the SEC doesn't have any indentive to change that, unless it's to keep the schools happy, which will generally be secondary to what the bowl committees want.


The SEC’s job is to keep it fair for their member institutions. No one with a brain thinks these kids would rather spend a week in Memphis or Nashville over a week in orlando. They are failing at their job. Period.

[Political Hack]

My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

[Johnson85]

The SEC’s job is to keep it fair for their member institutions. No one with a brain thinks these kids would rather spend a week in Memphis or Nashville over a week in orlando. They are failing at their job. Period.

Well, the SEC is an association of their members, so I'm guessing they think their job is to keep the members happy. That's mainly making it a better deal than not to be a part of the SEC. A big part of that is to maximize revenue for the schools. Another big part is to make them feel like their getting a fair shake. The better a job they do of the former though the more they can slack on the latter.

[preachermatt83]

My advice, listen to Steve, not Paul. Paul has no idea what he's talking about. We are not going to the liberty bowl. It will be Music city, Outback, or Texas.

[Johnson85]

My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

Maybe I'm a sucker, but I've more or less bought into the Pool of 6 bowls being equal. If we're in the pool of 6, I'd like Outback because we haven't been there and b/c people still see it as superior. I'd like Texas because we haven't been there. I don't want Liberty just because I'm not a fan of Memphis.

But there's also the issue of timeslots. One of the Pool of 6 has a truly awful time slot (maybe the Texas?). I'd rather have a night game that non-msu fans might actually be watching to give us exposure (or a day game on weekend or holiday).

But I'd also rather have an opponent that has name recognition as a good program.

[Tbonewannabe]

Maybe I'm a sucker, but I've more or less bought into the Pool of 6 bowls being equal. If we're in the pool of 6, I'd like Outback because we haven't been there and b/c people still see it as superior. I'd like Texas because we haven't been there. I don't want Liberty just because I'm not a fan of Memphis.

But there's also the issue of timeslots. One of the Pool of 6 has a truly awful time slot (maybe the Texas?). I'd rather have a night game that non-msu fans might actually be watching to give us exposure (or a day game on weekend or holiday).

But I'd also rather have an opponent that has name recognition as a good program.

The Outback is at 12 pm on January 1st. Probably not the best time.

[Bothrops]

I actually think the SEC wants to do this. I really do. If there is a snag it is the Outback Bowl wanting A&M which is where the SEC should tell them to jump in the lake and replace them next year with another bowl like the Vegas. I'm sure the Alamo would also jump at the chance for a SEC team. That way we could play the PAC 10 in a bowl. Let the Outback have an ACC vs Big 10 game.

The SEC should have a tie-in with the Alamo Bowl.

[Todd4State]

My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

Better yet- why does the SEC have a tie in with them if they are only willing to take certain teams?

[Todd4State]

The Outback is at 12 pm on January 1st. Probably not the best time.

It will be the only game on for the most part.

[RocketDawg]

Many of the posts here seem to think it's a done deal that we don't go to the Outback. Isn't it all just specuation at this point?

[Cooterpoot]

I think we go to either Outback or Texas.

[Homedawg]

If that's the case, Aggie should go to citrus ahead of Ky because Aggie is ahead of Ky in league standings as a result of head to head.

And kentucky went 9-3. Also they don't break ties. They are tied at 5-3.

[msudawg1200]

Many of the posts here seem to think it's a done deal that we don't go to the Outback. Isn't it all just specuation at this point?

It is pure speculation. I happen to think the SEC does the right thing and we go to the Outback. No one knows anything. Go to a Texas A&M board. It sounds just like here. Some of them are getting pissed because they think they are getting sent to the Texas or Liberty. These "insiders" have no clue.

[WSOPdawg]

My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

For me, it's about the destination and change of venue compared to where we are accustomed to visiting. Multiple trips to the Gator Bowl, Nashville, etc. Whereas UF practically has a 2nd home in Tampa having been to the Outback 5x in the past 20 years. Georgia 3x, etc.

Swap locations around. That's why I'm excited that Houston and the Texas Bowl are now in play. Would love to get Las Vegas in the SEC mix.

[Johnson85]

The Outback is at 12 pm on January 1st. Probably not the best time.

That's a pretty good time slot to me. Everybody is off work for the most part and a day people associate with college football. I looked and that's probably the best time slot for the Pool of 6 as far as being a day that makes travel to the bowl easy and also gives good tv exposure. Gator is probalby the next best. 6:30 on new year's eve.

The Pool of 6 with the worst time slot is Music City. It's at 12:30 on a Friday that's not a holiday. That's awful. Not a terrible bowl to go to site wise, but that's a terrible bowl for tv exposure.

The next worse is probably liberty at 2:45 on New Year's eve. Not sure how many people are going to be off work to watch that, although I guess a lot of people do take new year's eve off. At least makes it an easy trip. Can leave on a weekend and come back on New Year's day. Basically take one day off.

Texas is good for TV except not sure how many people will think to tune in on a thursday night if it's not a good matchup. Probably one of the worst ones as far as traveling.

The time slots (central):

Texas - Thur Dec. 27, 8pm
Music City - Friday, Dec. 28, 12:30 pm
Belk - Saturday, Dec. 29, 11am
Liberty - Monday, Dec. 31, 2:45pm
Gator - Monday, Dec. 31, 6:30
Outback - Tuesday, Jan 1, 11am

[Tbonewannabe]

That's a pretty good time slot to me. Everybody is off work for the most part and a day people associate with college football. I looked and that's probably the best time slot for the Pool of 6 as far as being a day that makes travel to the bowl easy and also gives good tv exposure. Gator is probalby the next best. 6:30 on new year's eve.

The Pool of 6 with the worst time slot is Music City. It's at 12:30 on a Friday that's not a holiday. That's awful. Not a terrible bowl to go to site wise, but that's a terrible bowl for tv exposure.

The next worse is probably liberty at 2:45 on New Year's eve. Not sure how many people are going to be off work to watch that, although I guess a lot of people do take new year's eve off. At least makes it an easy trip. Can leave on a weekend and come back on New Year's day. Basically take one day off.

Texas is good for TV except not sure how many people will think to tune in on a thursday night if it's not a good matchup. Probably one of the worst ones as far as traveling.

The time slots (central):

Texas - Thur Dec. 27, 8pm
Music City - Friday, Dec. 28, 12:30 pm
Belk - Saturday, Dec. 29, 11am
Liberty - Monday, Dec. 31, 2:45pm
Gator - Monday, Dec. 31, 6:30
Outback - Tuesday, Jan 1, 11am

Yes, thinking about it like that, the Outback is a good slot. I was thinking more about people waking up after New Years and trying to go to the bowl. It is a good slot for TV.

[Todd4State]

It is pure speculation. I happen to think the SEC does the right thing and we go to the Outback. No one knows anything. Go to a Texas A&M board. It sounds just like here. Some of them are getting pissed because they think they are getting sent to the Texas or Liberty. These "insiders" have no clue.

Yeah. It sounds to me like it comes down to whether the SEC will help us or not. Paul thinks they won't and Rosebowl thinks they will.

At the end of the day barring a ton of major upsets it's going to be the Outback or Music City.

[DudyDawg]

Again, reverse the situation with A&M and MSU and tell me who they are taking?

What if A&M was ahead in the playoff and beat MSU?

Of course they'd take A&M and you'd probably blame it on MSU by saying "should've beat A&M" or "should've beat Clemson"

Some of you got rocks for brains.

Dude, it is pretty clear you have rocks for brains. The bowls are not in the business of being fair. They are in the business of making $$$. Is MSU or TAMU the better economic decision? That is a pretty easy answer.

[Johnson85]

Yeah. It sounds to me like it comes down to whether the SEC will help us or not. Paul thinks they won't and Rosebowl thinks they will.

At the end of the day barring a ton of major upsets it's going to be the Outback or Music City.

I don't get why Texas isn't in the discussion? Is our administration dead set against Texas? Or does Texas not want us? The 27th isn't the greatest time to travel to a bowl, but I would think we wouldn't be opposed to Texas. Pretty easy to fly into Houston and also a manageable drive for most of the fan base.

[Todd4State]

Dude, it is pretty clear you have rocks for brains. The bowls are not in the business of being fair. They are in the business of making $$$. Is MSU or TAMU the better economic decision? That is a pretty easy answer.

Does A&M really travel that well? They didn't to Starkville compared to other fan bases. I think we would bring a good crowd to the Outback or any other bowl.

[Todd4State]

I don't get why Texas isn't in the discussion? Is our administration dead set against Texas? Or does Texas not want us? The 27th isn't the greatest time to travel to a bowl, but I would think we wouldn't be opposed to Texas. Pretty easy to fly into Houston and also a manageable drive for most of the fan base.

I don't think MSU is against it. I think it's more about we feel like we deserve a NYD game and I guess we like Nashville better than Houston. Nashville is an easier drive for most of our fans than Houston I would imagine.

[DudyDawg]

Does A&M really travel that well? They didn't to Starkville compared to other fan bases. I think we would bring a good crowd to the Outback or any other bowl.

Just based on their $$ and size, it would be very hard to imagine us making any bowl more money than they would. Except maybe Memphis bc of its proximity to MS/Starkville.

And that isn't considering what I would imagine is a much larger TV audience.

[StateDawg44]

Does A&M really travel that well? They didn't to Starkville compared to other fan bases. I think we would bring a good crowd to the Outback or any other bowl.

Could be that they travel well, but I think it is more that their fanbase is spread out a lot more than MSU's due to their military school. Realistically, the majority of MSU's fanbase probably resides in MS. Could be completely wrong though. Just my thoughts and reasoning on why they might be considered better travelers that MSU fans.

[msbulldog]

TaxSlayer Gator Bowl President and CEO Rick Catlett joined Jacksonville radio station 1010XL on Wednesday and gave out substantial intel on who he's looking at for this season's Dec. 31 prime-time matchup.

"We’re either going to have Texas A&M or South Carolina and both of those are home runs for us," Catlett said. "I’m pretty certain about that. Citrus will take Kentucky, Outback will take Mississippi State. I don’t have a choice because the SEC is going to make that decision. South Carolina and the Gator haven’t played in a long time. It would be a match made in heaven. That would be a really good thing.

[Dawgology]

Does A&M really travel that well? They didn't to Starkville compared to other fan bases. I think we would bring a good crowd to the Outback or any other bowl.

They don’t travel well. They will have about the same attendance we would. They are a cultish fan group. They like football at their university but they don’t get out much. They also have ALOT of students at their games to fill those seats. Students generally don’t travel to bowl games in great numbers.

[msstate7]

Our bowl attendance has sucked lately, so we don't wanna bring that up. It isn't just who will go to the game either... it's who will watch. Texas is a huge market

[Pollodawg]

Piss on Outback. They’re steaks are horrible anyway. It’s just one more shitty themed restaurant.

[msstate7]

Piss on Outback. They’re steaks are horrible anyway. It’s just one more shitty themed restaurant.

Well I want their bowl. Outback, Texas, or liberty... only prefer liberty bc I can actually make that one

[StateDawg44]

Piss on Outback. They’re steaks are horrible anyway. It’s just one more shitty themed restaurant.

No one cares who the sponsor is or their quality of food.

It could be named the Walgreens Pharmacy Bowl and would still be desirable because of the tier level, location and payout of the bowl.

[Pollodawg]

Well I want their bowl. Outback, Texas, or liberty... only prefer liberty bc I can actually make that one


More or less getting in fine “pissed off” form before we get passed over by them again.

[desotodawg]

https://247sports.com/college/south-carolina/Article/Gator-bowl-projection-South-Carolina-Texas-AM-President-on-potential-matchups-125520598/

** Stolen from other board **

[desotodawg]

Also ..
https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/11/30/bowl-projections-predictions-playoff-schedule-announcements

[Todd4State]

Our bowl attendance has sucked lately, so we don't wanna bring that up. It isn't just who will go to the game either... it's who will watch. Texas is a huge market

Well, let's see...

2015- Coach checked out and blew the Sugar Bowl and we went to the Belk Bowl.

2016- Went to a bowl that was played the day after Christmas.

2017- Coach checked out and left, QB was hurt, and blew a Citrus Bowl opportunity.


I have a feeling that we will draw much better to whatever bowl we go to this year. Outback we haven't gone to and a lot of fans will go because of that. Nashville is fairly reasonable for our fans to get to. Even Houston is also reasonable to get to- but I doubt we go.

[Todd4State]

https://247sports.com/college/south-carolina/Article/Gator-bowl-projection-South-Carolina-Texas-AM-President-on-potential-matchups-125520598/

** Stolen from other board **


Also ..
https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/11/30/bowl-projections-predictions-playoff-schedule-announcements

I personally think it's basically 50/50 that we go to either the Outback vs. the Music City Bowl.

Really it's going to come down to how many upsets happen tomorrow and whether the SEC office helps us out or not.

If A&M gets the Outback, that probably means that the Gator is taking South Carolina. Which would mean that the SEC would be screwing us in favor of South Carolina two years in a row. I might be wrong, but I just don't think that happens. Especially with A&M being perfectly content to go to the Gator Bowl.