Grad Transfer QB Predictions

[ShotgunDawg]

Lots of irons in the fire and likely known QBs changing schools after this year.

Here is my prediction. Would love to hear yours.

Jalen Hurts - Texas. Makes sense.

Kelly Bryant - Auburn. Makes sense.

Jared Stidham - Oklahoma. Kyler Murray isn't going back to OU. NFL or MLB. Stidham needs to transfer to rebuild draft stock.

Mason Fine - MSU. Only if he's good enough. We may also have a chance at KB

[msstate7]

No idea if you're correct, but I think that would really help all teams. I do think hurts with Gus at auburn would be a dynamic duo. Oklahoma and JS would kill it also

[msstate7]

M. Fine will play vs Lane Kiffin tonight at 830 cbssn

[ShotgunDawg]

No idea if you're correct, but I think that would really help all teams. I do think hurts with Gus at auburn would be a dynamic duo. Oklahoma and JS would kill it also

I just don't see Hurts going to Aubby. I think he'd choose Texas. He fits Texas' offense as well.

[msstate7]

I just don't see Hurts going to Aubby. I think he'd choose Texas. He fits Texas' offense as well.

I don't think he will either, but Gus is pursuing the wrong guy. Hurts would be a much better fit to gus' offense than KB. While it would really suck to play auburn, the iron bowl would be must see tv

[Dawgfan77]

I?ll put this out there. ND number 2 May look to transfer. He was the starter first of the year

[BuckyIsAB****]

Lots of irons in the fire and likely known QBs changing schools after this year.

Here is my prediction. Would love to hear yours.

Jalen Hurts - Texas. Makes sense.

Kelly Bryant - Auburn. Makes sense.

Jared Stidham - Oklahoma. Kyler Murray isn't going back to OU. NFL or MLB. Stidham needs to transfer to rebuild draft stock.

Mason Fine - MSU. Only if he's good enough. We may also have a chance at KB

Jarret Stidham is going to the NFL. Idk who Mason Fine is and I dont want him. We dont need a grad transfer QB. We need KT to play.

Most importantly we need Moorhead to not be a Hardhead

[Dawgfan77]

Jarret Stidham is going to the NFL. Idk who Mason Fine is and I dont want him. We dont need a grad transfer QB. We need KT to play.

Most importantly we need Moorhead to not be a Hardhead

Fine is Henig. 5?11 rocket arm no mobility No thanks

[Cooterpoot]

KT shouldn’t be afraid of competition if he’s good.

[Really Clark?]

Jarret Stidham is going to the NFL. Idk who Mason Fine is and I dont want him. We dont need a grad transfer QB. We need KT to play.

Most importantly we need Moorhead to not be a Hardhead

Whether we think we do or not, they are looking to bring in a grad transfer QB

[hacker]

Lots of irons in the fire and likely known QBs changing schools after this year.

Here is my prediction. Would love to hear yours.

Jalen Hurts - Texas. Makes sense.

Kelly Bryant - Auburn. Makes sense.

Jared Stidham - Oklahoma. Kyler Murray isn't going back to OU. NFL or MLB. Stidham needs to transfer to rebuild draft stock.

Mason Fine - MSU. Only if he's good enough. We may also have a chance at KB

Isn't Texas happy with their QB?

[Leroy Jenkins]

Fine is Henig. 5?11 rocket arm no mobility No thanks

Dylan Favre is a better comp.

[TrapGame]

We should have absolutely nothing to do with Mason Fine. He ain't the one.

[msstate7]

Just bc a qb isn't big doesn't mean he can't play. Tua doesn't lead the country in passer rating... kyler Murray does, and he's almost exactly the same size as fine. Fine has a very nice passer rating. Perhaps pair him with mayden (I think key leaves) in the tommy Stevens' role Moorhead used at penn state.

[Dawgfan77]

Just bc a qb isn't big doesn't mean he can't play. Tua doesn't lead the country in passer rating... kyler Murray does, and he's almost exactly the same size as fine. Fine has a very nice passer rating. Perhaps pair him with mayden (I think key leaves) in the tommy Stevens' role Moorhead used at penn state.

Fine is not an SEC qb

[msstate7]

Fine is not an SEC qb

May not be...

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I'd take Fine over Bryant

[msstate7]

I'd take Fine over Bryant

Me too.

[Goldendawg]

Dylan Favre is a better comp.

Tyson (I forgot to pitch it to Boobie), Lee also says hello.

[Goldendawg]

M. Fine will play vs Lane Kiffin tonight at 830 cbssn

Who does he play for and what channel is this on DirecTV? Thanks.

[msstate7]

Who does he play for and what channel is this on DirecTV? Thanks.

North Texas. No idea about DTV

[Commercecomet24]

M. Fine will play vs Lane Kiffin tonight at 830 cbssn

I'm gonna watch it. Interested in seeing him play.

[msstate7]

I'm gonna watch it. Interested in seeing him play.

I talked him up... he's been jinxed by me lol

[Commercecomet24]

I talked him up... he's been jinxed by me lol

Lol I know that feeling myself!

[Goldendawg]

Channel 221 on DirecTV.

[ShotgunDawg]

I'd take Fine over Bryant

Why would you take Fine over a guy that led his team to a 12-2 season and the playoff?

[ShotgunDawg]

Jarret Stidham is going to the NFL. Idk who Mason Fine is and I dont want him. We dont need a grad transfer QB. We need KT to play.

Most importantly we need Moorhead to not be a Hardhead

Stidham goes in about the 5th round this year. After Murray, Oklahoma will have had 8 straight QBs drafted. Stidham in OU's offense vs the Big 12 could easily go from 5th to 2nd round pick.

[msstate7]

Why would you take Fine over a guy that led his team to a 12-2 season and the playoff?

The 1 year (2016) fitz had an nfl type wr (Ross, and he didn't even get drafted), fitz had a 124.33 passer rating. Last season, Bryant had 4 NFL WRs and a very close type of WR to Ross in renfrow and his passer rating was 131.73. I don't think kelly is an above average passer which we need. I have softened my stance... it's obvious joe wants no part of key running this offense, so I'll trust joe that kelly is better than key. Given a choice though, I want a passer, which I think fine is better at. I think kelly is a good game manager

[Cooterpoot]

Fine has done nothing against a good defense. CUSA is bottom of the barrel football.

[msstate7]

Fine has done nothing against a good defense. CUSA is bottom of the barrel football.

UAB is the best defense in his conference (13.2 ppg). Vs uab, he was 29/40 336 yds 3 td 0 int

[Cooterpoot]

USM took UAB to overtime. That conference is garbage from top to bottom. He’s not faced good teams OOC much either.

[Commercecomet24]

He is tiny. No way he's 5'11", more like 5'9", 170lbs.

[Cooterpoot]

Look, we aren’t pulling Bryant. If we take Fine, then Jo has to believe he’s better than we’ve got. So we’re all pissing in the wind here.

[msstate7]

USM took UAB to overtime. That conference is garbage from top to bottom. He’s not faced good teams OOC much either.

He beat ark with his conf USA surrounding cast. I realize he doesn't play good competition, but he doesn't isn't surrounded by good players either. He elevates his team with his play

[Commercecomet24]

Look, we aren’t pulling Bryant. If we take Fine, then Jo has to believe he’s better than we’ve got. So we’re all pissing in the wind here.

It's what we do best lol

[msstate7]

He is tiny. No way he's 5'11", more like 5'9", 170lbs.

Maybe the sec dlinemen and LBs won't see him haha

[msstate7]

Look, we aren’t pulling Bryant. If we take Fine, then Jo has to believe he’s better than we’ve got. So we’re all pissing in the wind here.

That's what message boards are all about. Have any coaches PM'd here for your opinion? Only 1 or 2 have me... yeah right lol

[Commercecomet24]

Maybe the sec dlinemen and LBs won't see him haha

Lol i have an affinity for the little guy, he's my size!

[Cooterpoot]

I bet N. TX a lot, so I know them pretty well. Lol

[msstate7]

Y'all watching fine throw dimes?

[Commercecomet24]

The guy is accurate as heck.

[Pit Bull]

Lots of irons in the fire and likely known QBs changing schools after this year.

Here is my prediction. Would love to hear yours.

Jalen Hurts - Texas. Makes sense.

Kelly Bryant - Auburn. Makes sense.

Jared Stidham - Oklahoma. Kyler Murray isn't going back to OU. NFL or MLB. Stidham needs to transfer to rebuild draft stock.

Mason Fine - MSU. Only if he's good enough. We may also have a chance at KB

Thought Stidham was a senior.

[Cooterpoot]

This is two bad football teams.

[Commercecomet24]

This is two bad football teams.

Danny Kanell announcing ain't helping any. I can't stand that guy. FAU sucks,

[Cooterpoot]

Now, maybe Graham Harrell should be our QB coach.

[msstate7]

This is two bad football teams.

I think so too, but s&p+ has north Texas as #24. FEI has them at #43

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Why would you take Fine over a guy that led his team to a 12-2 season and the playoff?

Probably because I think he's a better fit for this offense.

[msstate7]

Now, maybe Graham Harrell should be our QB coach.

Probably become north Texas HC when littrell gets a bigger job this year

[Cooterpoot]

Fine would get destroyed in the SEC. The decent defenses would eat him up. Plus, he’d eliminate the running threat from the QB completely. That tiny little guy would get broken.

[msstate7]

Yikes, fine. Pay attention

[TUSK]

Thought Stidham was a senior.

He is.

Frosh year (2015) at Baylor, but he didn't play in 2016... He coulda gone pro after last year (2017). He could go pro this year, but he may stick it out since his draft status has likely taken a downturn in 2018....

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Fine would get destroyed in the SEC. The decent defenses would eat him up. Plus, he’d eliminate the running threat from the QB completely. That tiny little guy would get broken.

I think he'd do well in our offense. He can run just as well as McSorley.

[Really Clark?]

That was the second tipped INT for Fine. Not on him but I know some will think he threw it too hard. Haha

[Commercecomet24]

That was the second tipped INT for Fine. Not on him but I know some will think he threw it too hard. Haha

Are you insinuating he doesn't throw a "catchable" ball?*****

[Cooterpoot]

He’s a little better passing Tyson Lee. I don’t see success in the SEC. Lot smaller throwing windows at the line and down field. But hey, if Jo says he’s the guy we go with it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Well scratch Fine off the list.

[Really Clark?]

Are you insinuating he doesn't throw a "catchable" ball?*****

Noooo...not me.***. He didn’t have much choice with that last pass. Very tight window.

[Really Clark?]

Well scratch Fine off the list.


Hate that for him. Not his throwing wrist though is it?

[HoopsDawg]

Well scratch Fine off the list.

We really need Bryant.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Hate that for him. Not his throwing wrist though is it?

Nope

[Commercecomet24]

Man he got smoked geez

[Commercecomet24]

Noooo...not me.***. He didn’t have much choice with that last pass. Very tight window.

Ha!

[msstate7]

Well scratch Fine off the list.

What happened?

[Commercecomet24]

What happened?

He got crunched between 2 defenders. They bloodied his mouth and looked to have a serious left wrist injury.

[Really Clark?]

Back up showing out for North Texas, running

[Really Clark?]

Nothing broken for Fine, initial xrays

[Really Clark?]

Wow. Fine back in the game, first play back runs zone read for first down

[ShotgunDawg]

He is.

Frosh year (2015) at Baylor, but he didn't play in 2016... He coulda gone pro after last year (2017). He could go pro this year, but he may stick it out since his draft status has likely taken a downturn in 2018....

Apparently NFL scouts are saying that Gus' offense is too "horizontal" for him. I wouldn't be surprised to see him transfer.

[Commercecomet24]

Fine is a tough little dude!

[msstate7]

Fine is a tough little dude!

Tough as a bulldog, maybe? Haha

[Leroy Jenkins]

Thought Stidham was a senior.


He is.

Stidham is a Jr. Thought you would know your enemy better, Tusk.

Freshman at Baylor in 2015
Sat out 2016
So at AU 2017
Jr at AU 2018

[RezDog7]

Stidham is a Jr. Thought you would know your enemy better, Tusk.

Freshman at Baylor in 2015
Sat out 2016
So at AU 2017
Jr at AU 2018

Maybe we should recruit Stidham to transfer here.

[ShotgunDawg]

Maybe we should recruit Stidham to transfer here.

I think we need a more duel threat type. We have to play 11 on 11 and need the threat of a running QB. Not sure Stidham is a good fit.

[RiverCityDawg]

I think we need a more duel threat type. We have to play 11 on 11 and need the threat of a running QB. Not sure Stidham is a good fit.

Agree 100%, which is why I wouldn't want Fine either. Fine isn't a statue back there but he's about 5-10 165 so you can't afford to run him. Besides, he's not a difference maker even when he does run. He's no where near the runner even McSorely is, which is about the minimum running ability required for this.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Fine is Henig. 5?11 rocket arm no mobility No thanks

nice observation. I noticed this too. But he is tearing up those CUSA defenses....smh

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I?ll put this out there. ND number 2 May look to transfer. He was the starter first of the year

Wimbush? Isn't he a senior?

[TUSK]

Stidham is a Jr. Thought you would know your enemy better, Tusk.

Freshman at Baylor in 2015
Sat out 2016 at CC.
So at AU 2017
Jr at AU 2018

Academically, a Senior... Athletically, he still has eligibility.... I wasn't clear enough in my OP.

[msu15]

Tyson (I forgot to pitch it to Boobie), Lee also says hello.

Thanks for that painful memory.

[TrapGame]

I'm still holding out hope we get Johnny Utah.**

[Tbonewannabe]

I'm still holding out hope we get Johnny Utah.**

I think we need Shane Falco.

[Really Clark?]

I think we need Shane Falco.

Ha. I don’t know, he’s never been know to be able to win a big game. But Paul Blake still has 4 years eligibility left

[Tbonewannabe]

Ha. I don’t know, he’s never been know to be able to win a big game. But Paul Blake still has 4 years eligibility left

I like how he developed his leadership at the end of the year. Although I guess he lost his eligibility when he suited up as a scab.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I think Fine would do good here. His lack of running ability will hinder our O, but we mostly need an arm to go along with our RBs. He'll looked like he's quick with his reads, and very accurate. Our O does a pretty good job of getting guys open, it's just Fitz doesn't see the field worth a crap. A QB with the mental ability to go through reads and the arm to get the ball out would GREATLY open up the O, which would allow the RBs more room than Fitz's running ability gets them now. Fine may have a few balls knocked down, and he may get broken in half, but he can throw the ball a lot better than KB and seems to be faster mentally. I'm a KB fan but I do feel Fines' great passing-bad running combo is probably better for our O than KBs' ok passing-ok running combo does.

All you people saying "he's going against CUSA defenses he will suck here" need to think about it. 1) Our line gives Fitz more time to throw the ball than Fine was getting, so he won't even have to speed up his reads. 2) Fine is playing with CUSA talent, so while the defensive talent will be much higher here Guidry and Mitchell are also better than anyone he has currently. 3) Our O would score 14 more ppg if Fitz would just hit guys with 4+ yards of separation. Again, we're getting space. If Fine can see the field and throw a good deep ball we'd be much better. yes SEC D's are great but the windows to throw in aren't really much smaller. Main difference is we have better blitzes and the bigger front 7's get into QBs heads more.

If Fine can keep from mentally shutting down like Fitz, and if he can consistently make routine throws and go through his reads, I think this O will be opened up a ton; far more than the extra gain a mobile QB gives us, though that's obviously a plus. KB would be the safest bet, given his size and experience at a high level. But I feel Fine has a higher ceiling here.

[msstate7]

What about tommy Stevens?

[Tbonewannabe]

I think Fine would do good here. His lack of running ability will hinder our O, but we mostly need an arm to go along with our RBs. He'll looked like he's quick with his reads, and very accurate. Our O does a pretty good job of getting guys open, it's just Fitz doesn't see the field worth a crap. A QB with the mental ability to go through reads and the arm to get the ball out would GREATLY open up the O, which would allow the RBs more room than Fitz's running ability gets them now. Fine may have a few balls knocked down, and he may get broken in half, but he can throw the ball a lot better than KB and seems to be faster mentally. I'm a KB fan but I do feel Fines' great passing-bad running combo is probably better for our O than KBs' ok passing-ok running combo does.

All you people saying "he's going against CUSA defenses he will suck here" need to think about it. 1) Our line gives Fitz more time to throw the ball than Fine was getting, so he won't even have to speed up his reads. 2) Fine is playing with CUSA talent, so while the defensive talent will be much higher here Guidry and Mitchell are also better than anyone he has currently. 3) Our O would score 14 more ppg if Fitz would just hit guys with 4+ yards of separation. Again, we're getting space. If Fine can see the field and throw a good deep ball we'd be much better. yes SEC D's are great but the windows to throw in aren't really much smaller. Main difference is we have better blitzes and the bigger front 7's get into QBs heads more.

If Fine can keep from mentally shutting down like Fitz, and if he can consistently make routine throws and go through his reads, I think this O will be opened up a ton; far more than the extra gain a mobile QB gives us, though that's obviously a plus. KB would be the safest bet, given his size and experience at a high level. But I feel Fine has a higher ceiling here.

This is the thing that gives me the most hope that JoeMo can improve the offense next year. Even as bad as the drops have been, Fitz just misses more open guys that never get a ball thrown their way. He is more likely to throw into double or triple coverage than hit the wide open checkdown. That was the most surprising thing about the TD against Bama was Fitz actually checked down to Kylin. He hasn't done that all year.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

What about tommy Stevens?

Isn't he going to be the starter at PSU next year? Can't imagine he'd rather play his only year as a starter here rather than at PSU, even with the Moorhead connection. But if he wants too then he'd be my favorite over Fine or KB

[msstate7]

Isn't he going to be the starter at PSU next year? Can't imagine he'd rather play his only year here rather than at PSU, even with the Moorhead connection. But if he wants too then he'd be my favorite over Fine or KB

Doubt he'd leave. Just throwing his name out there

[Cooterpoot]

I thought Fine looked very average. I wasn't impressed with his arm strength and never have been. When pressure was in his face, he struggled. Can't run at all and is too small to take the SEC beating doing it. He's got top end CUSA talent, so he's going to look good in that terrible conference. He just hasn't faced any real good teams and had success.

[Goose Willis]

Am I missing something on Mason Fine? He was recruited in 2016 to UNT. He is a true junior. How would he be eligible to transfer and play next year?

[Really Clark?]

Am I missing something on Mason Fine? He was recruited in 2016 to UNT. He is a true junior. How would he be eligible to transfer and play next year?

He can graduate and transfer, junior as far as athletic eligibility has nothing to do with where he is academically

[msstate7]

I thought Fine looked very average. I wasn't impressed with his arm strength and never have been. When pressure was in his face, he struggled. Can't run at all and is too small to take the SEC beating doing it. He's got top end CUSA talent, so he's going to look good in that terrible conference. He just hasn't faced any real good teams and had success.

When pressure was in his face he struggled, huh? Yeah, so do 90% of nfl qbs

[Goose Willis]

He can graduate and transfer, junior as far as athletic eligibility has nothing to do with where he is academically

Appreciate it. I think he could be a good piece for this offense. If he is excels at passing for MSU, he would be a great piece to allow our RBs to get more carries.

[Tbonewannabe]

When pressure was in his face he struggled, huh? Yeah, so do 90% of nfl qbs

I remember Tebow on SEC gameday saying the worst pressure was coming straight into your face.