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99jc
10-26-2018, 01:13 PM
buyout figures:
Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M ? $68,125,000
Nick Saban, Alabama ? $33,600,000
Gus Malzahn, Auburn ? $32,143,750
Kirby Smart, Georgia ? $27,917,500
Will Muschamp, South Carolina ? $18,650,000
Mark Stoops, Kentucky ? $15,625,000
Chad Morris, Arkansas ? $12,500,000
Dan Mullen, Florida ? $12,000,000
Jeremy Pruitt, Tennessee ? $11,780,000
Ed Orgeron, LSU ? $5,291,667
Barry Odom, Mizzou ? $1,912,500
Matt Luke, Ole Miss ? $0
Joe Moorhead, Mississippi State ? $0
Derek Mason, Vanderbilt ? Unknown

NCDawg
10-26-2018, 01:32 PM
I think we should make Saban an offer he can't refuse. He's already shown at Alabama he's probably the greatest recruiter and college coach ever. In order to really prove how great he is, he should come to MS State and prove it here.

fader2103
10-26-2018, 01:49 PM
NCdawg is on to something. Maybe we didn't offer Joe a buyout so we can save money to buy out Saban's contract?*

TrapGame
10-26-2018, 01:53 PM
I expect things to get pretty dicey if we lose to om. The fans and some $$$ alums will have pitch forks out.

yjnkdawg
10-26-2018, 02:03 PM
I think we should make Saban an offer he can't refuse. He's already shown at Alabama he's probably the greatest recruiter and college coach ever. In order to really prove how great he is, he should come to MS State and prove it here.


Good thinking. I bet Cohen already has Saban on his short list for the end of the season. LOL

NCDawg
10-26-2018, 02:22 PM
Good thinking. I bet Cohen already has Saban on his short list for the end of the season. LOL

I wonder if Cohen has a buyout in his contract.

Pit Bull
10-26-2018, 02:56 PM
I think we should make Saban an offer he can't refuse. He's already shown at Alabama he's probably the greatest recruiter and college coach ever. In order to really prove how great he is, he should come to MS State and prove it here.

Texas has already thrown all their money at him once...….and he turned them down. I seriously doubt we can do anything better than Texas.

Pit Bull
10-26-2018, 02:58 PM
I expect things to get pretty dicey if we lose to om. The fans and some $$$ alums will have pitch forks out.

Yeah....that late evening turkey sandwich and dressing just won't taste too good if we bow out to the LandSharks.

Homedawg
10-26-2018, 03:05 PM
buyout figures:
Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M ? $68,125,000
Nick Saban, Alabama ? $33,600,000
Gus Malzahn, Auburn ? $32,143,750
Kirby Smart, Georgia ? $27,917,500
Will Muschamp, South Carolina ? $18,650,000
Mark Stoops, Kentucky ? $15,625,000
Chad Morris, Arkansas ? $12,500,000
Dan Mullen, Florida ? $12,000,000
Jeremy Pruitt, Tennessee ? $11,780,000
Ed Orgeron, LSU ? $5,291,667
Barry Odom, Mizzou ? $1,912,500
Matt Luke, Ole Miss ? $0
Joe Moorhead, Mississippi State ? $0
Derek Mason, Vanderbilt ? Unknown

For the 100th and final time, this is NOT correct. He has a buyout. But whatever.

TrapGame
10-26-2018, 03:09 PM
For the 100th and final time, this is NOT correct. He has a buyout. But whatever.

I heard it's $2 mil. That's the scuttlebutt. If true it's kinda cheap.

MaroonFlounder
10-27-2018, 07:32 AM
For the 100th and final time, this is NOT correct. He has a buyout. But whatever.

Then tell us or show us what you know about the buyout.

Leeshouldveflanked
10-27-2018, 07:36 AM
We need to get a real AD before we hire another Football Coach....

Mobile Bay
10-27-2018, 07:37 AM
For the 100th and final time, this is NOT correct. He has a buyout. But whatever.

What is your evidence of this?

starkvegasdawg
10-27-2018, 08:10 AM
Texas has already thrown all their money at him once...….and he turned them down. I seriously doubt we can do anything better than Texas.

We've got the money. Just veeeeeeerrrrrrrryyyyy doubtful we do it. In fact, I'd feel more confident of getting hit by a meteor while having a three way with Mila Kunis and the current playmate of the month than this happening.

ckDOG
10-27-2018, 08:14 AM
8-4

msstate7
10-27-2018, 08:16 AM
8-4

I don't think we fire him even if he goes 4-8. I'll buy back in if we get to 8-4 though

Doggie_Style
10-27-2018, 08:26 AM
I don't think we fire him even if he goes 4-8. I'll buy back in if we get to 8-4 though

You?re probably right....besides, only real football schools need real football coaches ****

gravedigger
10-27-2018, 08:38 AM
I heard it's $2 mil. That's the scuttlebutt. If true it's kinda cheap.

Moorhead agreed to a lower $ contract in the first place. Supposedly in order to have room for assistant coaches. He didn?t move from a sure thing in Penn State with his family to a non guaranteed MSU job with little to no buyout. It?s fantasy to think he did.

It?s the same fantasy that the people who think he?d be fired at the end of the season have dreamed up to make that more plausible.

Mobile Bay
10-27-2018, 09:15 AM
Moorhead agreed to a lower $ contract in the first place. Supposedly in order to have room for assistant coaches. He didn?t move from a sure thing in Penn State with his family to a non guaranteed MSU job with little to no buyout. It?s fantasy to think he did.

It?s the same fantasy that the people who think he?d be fired at the end of the season have dreamed up to make that more plausible.

We are not dreaming it up. The no buyout for Moorehead came from a USA today article.

shannondawg
10-27-2018, 09:37 AM
How the hell did buyouts come about anyway.. You do your job you keep it, don't and lose it. Fair enough?

egriffin
10-27-2018, 09:54 AM
We are not dreaming it up. The no buyout for Moorehead came from a USA today article.

It says $0 for Moorhead and Matt Luke because the figures were not available, not because there's no buyout.

dawgs
10-27-2018, 09:55 AM
How the hell did buyouts come about anyway.. You do your job you keep it, don't and lose it. Fair enough?

Because when 2 parties enter into a contract and one side wants to terminate it early for subjective reasons (i.e., 6-6 might be fine some places, not at others; some programs are understanding when you have a bad year and let you try to bounce back, some fire you fit a bad year), then you have buyout clauses to buy your way out of the deal. Otherwise there'd be wrongful termination suits every time a guy got fired citing to a prior coach keeping his job in similar circumstances.

It also serves to deter the HC from taking other jobs.

Lord McBuckethead
10-27-2018, 10:16 AM
How the hell did buyouts come about anyway.. You do your job you keep it, don't and lose it. Fair enough?

The bigger issue is.....a contract is a FN contract. You sign it, you honor it.

Homedawg
10-27-2018, 10:30 AM
We are not dreaming it up. The no buyout for Moorehead came from a USA today article.

I'm not going to send you a copy of the contract. And I don't give two craps where it was posted. Believe what you want.

Mobile Bay
10-27-2018, 10:57 AM
It says $0 for Moorhead and Matt Luke because the figures were not available, not because there's no buyout.

I do not believe that is the case. If it were unknown it would be listed as unknown, just like Derick Mason right below Luke and Moorehead. But it isn't listed as unknown, its listed as zero dollars.

Homedawg
10-27-2018, 11:10 AM
I do not believe that is the case. If it were unknown it would be listed as unknown, just like Derick Mason right below Luke and Moorehead. But it isn't listed as unknown, its listed as zero dollars.

Ok......short of you having the contract in front of you, you are going to believe the USA Today. Not sure why you even read what I wrote. It's clearly ALL in the USA Today.....smh

Dawgfan77
10-27-2018, 11:17 AM
There is no State contact buyout. Their is a Bulldog club buyout. Since the bulldog club is a private entity they don?t have to release figures.

ckDOG
10-27-2018, 11:21 AM
My guess would be 2-3 million today. If we were in a leverage position to have a coach agree to no buyout we would not have gone the coordinator route.

WeWonItAll(Most)
10-27-2018, 11:33 AM
Haven't we already established that his buyout is through a private foundation (the Bulldog Club) and that they don't have to disclose information to USA Today. Vandy is listed "Unknown" because they are a private school and don't have to give any information at all to USA Today. Mississippi State is listed as $0 because being a public school, we have to give them his contract info. His buyout is not through MSU though, so it is listed as $0.

Homedawg
10-27-2018, 11:45 AM
Haven't we already established that his buyout is through a private foundation (the Bulldog Club) and that they don't have to disclose information to USA Today. Vandy is listed "Unknown" because they are a private school and don't have to give any information at all to USA Today. Mississippi State is listed as $0 because being a public school, we have to give them his contract info. His buyout is not through MSU though, so it is listed as $0.

What we've established is- the USA Today said we don't owe him anything and some after being told numerous times, believe it. Not sure why those choose to come in here for info. USA Today is where they need to be tuned into......

Maroonthirteen
10-27-2018, 11:52 AM
So JoMo isn’t going to lead us to our..... 4th?....10win season in program history. So fire him?

We have become a mirror image of Razorback fans.

Dawgfan77
10-27-2018, 11:55 AM
So JoMo isn’t going to lead us to our..... 4th?....10win season in program history. So fire him?

We have become a mirror image of Razorback fans.

JoMo isn?t going to lead us to 7 wins. We won a bowl game with a career RB coach and a bunch of GAs with a true freshman QB. Yet SloMo can?t run a competent offense.

The guy does nothing for our program that says he will ever be successful

DancingRabbit
10-27-2018, 12:05 PM
Geez, people. His buyout is not zero. If fired without cause, his buyout is whatever remains on his 4-year $11M contract; or an agreed-upon lesser amount. There's no way - no reason for Moorhead to sign a contract with a zero buyout.

msstate7
10-27-2018, 12:15 PM
Geez, people. His buyout is not zero. If fired without cause, his buyout is whatever remains on his 4-year $11M contract; or an agreed-upon lesser amount. There's no way - no reason for Moorhead to sign a contract with a zero buyout.

We wouldn't either, would we?

Dawgfan77
10-27-2018, 12:17 PM
Geez, people. His buyout is not zero. If fired without cause, his buyout is whatever remains on his 4-year $11M contract; or an agreed-upon lesser amount. There's no way - no reason for Moorhead to sign a contract with a zero buyout.

It?s closer to 7 than 11

DancingRabbit
10-27-2018, 01:24 PM
It?s closer to 7 than 11

Yes, after this season there is $8.4M left on his contract. I'm not following what your point is. I think it's likely there's a buyout provision that's less than the full remaining amount. My guess is 1 to 2 years of his salary that decreases over time.

Commercecomet24
10-27-2018, 01:32 PM
What we've established is- the USA Today said we don't owe him anything and some after being told numerous times, believe it. Not sure why those choose to come in here for info. USA Today is where they need to be tuned into......

This! +1.

BulldogBear
10-27-2018, 03:21 PM
I don't think we fire him even if he goes 4-8. I'll buy back in if we get to 8-4 though

Well, that means if we don't win tonight....that ain't happening.

Even before the season, we knew 7-5 was completely unacceptable. It would be like going 3-9 last year.

preachermatt83
10-27-2018, 03:34 PM
So JoMo isn’t going to lead us to our..... 4th?....10win season in program history. So fire him?

We have become a mirror image of Razorback fans.
In a normal year you would be right but this team is literally a once in a decade team talent wise. 8-4 is the best we can do now and 9-3 should have been the absolute floor.

Mobile Bay
10-27-2018, 03:35 PM
Ok......short of you having the contract in front of you, you are going to believe the USA Today. Not sure why you even read what I wrote. It's clearly ALL in the USA Today.....smh

Over some random unknown person on a message board, yep I will take the national publications word.

msstate7
10-27-2018, 03:36 PM
Over some random unknown person on a message board, yep I will take the national publications word.

You shouldn't. Homedawg is pretty plugged in

Homedawg
10-27-2018, 04:56 PM
Over some random unknown person on a message board, yep I will take the national publications word.

Well the random is right and the paper is wrong and so are you. So there's that.

Vandelaydawg
10-27-2018, 05:53 PM
Over some random unknown person on a message board, yep I will take the national publications word.

In this case and many others you?re the random unknown. I?ll tag you for top rate intel on tunnels and battleships. Homedawg is spot on once again...

On second thought, I let my wife have the tunnel and battleship expertise. Good luck to you and the fish wrap. Both only good for...