ESPN Game Day: LSU vs MSU

[VandelayIndustries]

Go for it

[maroonmania]

Fitzgerald waits too long to start running. Allows a LOT of penetration.

[TrapGame]

Kylin should have gotten it.

[bobtail bob]

Moor made no adjustments

[VandelayIndustries]

3rd and 1 Fitz shouldn't be hesitating, just run

[msstate7]

Down 10, and burning an early TO. Moorhead is clueless

[GreenheadDawg]

This is embarrassing. Fire Moorhead

[mparkerfd20]

Where is all the motion we saw with Auburn?

[TrapGame]

Fitzgerald waits too long to start running. Allows a LOT of penetration.

Honestly Nick hasn't the same since his injury.

[TNDawg35]

Wouldn’t you think if Fitz bluffs on the dive, Guidy could break free down the sideline? The CB has got to be smashing when a Fitz runs up...

[Liverpooldawg]

All I can figure is that Mullen's passing reads were simpler for Fitz. Under Moorhead Fitz is not making the correct reads when he does pass.

Yep

[TrapGame]

Wouldn’t you think if Fitz bluffs on the dive, Guidy could break free down the sideline? The CB has got to be smashing when a Fitz runs up...

If he could hit Guidry. Big if.

[starkvegasdawg]

Down 10, and burning an early TO. Moorhead is clueless

Too much indecision.

[bobtail bob]

Something is open with the way they are clogging the line of scrimmage. Aranda is fooling the hell out of joe

[maroonmania]

Honestly Nick hasn't the same since his injury.

Yea, but this sitting around and waiting for a hole to develop (I guess) is strictly a Moorhead thing.

[IMissJack]

He wasn't looking back and hit em early

Happened 20 ft in front of me I did not see int., neither did LSU fans around me.

[msstate7]

Offsides

[VandelayIndustries]

Gotta be offsides

[maroonmania]

LSU dude was offsides.

[parabrave]

Lets see 4th and 1 Fitz up the middle. Thank god I was wrong.

[VandelayIndustries]

Had him too, so frustrating

[Delmar]

It's Joe's job to scheme them open. It's Fitz's job to complete them.

[VandelayIndustries]

Go for it

[msstate7]

Not that I think key will be any better, but you may have to try it

[DownwardDawg]

This team is gonna give me a heart attack. Offense is garbage.

[maroonmania]

Dang 75, get out of the way!

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Guidry has his man beat and Fitz throws an uncatchable ball.

[VandelayIndustries]

Terrible, this team man

[Statecoachingblows**]

We need coaches

[Dawgs31]

Put in Key. Fitz doesn’t have the ability to think past the first option.

[DownwardDawg]

Not that I think key will be any better, but you may have to try it

Imagine how bad he must suck. He can’t even get playing time as bad as Fitz is.

[msstate7]

We need a head coach

Fify

[TrapGame]

Fitz didn't read the blitz.

Fitz is not a good QB. He can run like gazelle but he can't throw or read a defense worth a damn.

[Leroy Jenkins]

This is embarrassingly putrid QB play.

[starkvegasdawg]

Did McCorvey die and reincarnated as a white guy with a raised eyebrow?

[Liverpooldawg]

Good grief man, MULLEN was determined HE was going to leave. What this board did or did not want is beside the point. I can tell you that nobody was wanting Mullen to leave if he would have been committed to his job here.

Yep, and this board celebrated when he did. You are TOTALLY wrong about nobody wanting him to leave. People didn't want to fire him because they knew how stupid it would look. MANY wanted him to leave on his own. They got their wish.

[bobtail bob]

Kentucky all over again

[msstate7]

Kentucky all over again

These will be the rule, not the exception. Moorhead is garbage

[Randolph Dupree]

First time I've said it all year, but time for KT. Fitz is killing us

[TNDawg35]

Fitz didn't read the blitz.

Fitz is not a good QB. He can run like gazelle but he can't throw or read a defense worth a damn.

Hell he can’t even run. The Fitz from last yr would have broke a couple of those long runs he had. It doesn’t even matter tho, we are burning out the D and the 4th Q will be ugly. Not the ads fault. If I was Sweat or Simmons, I’m body slam Fitz...

[LC Dawg]

Fitz didn't read the blitz.

Fitz is not a good QB. He can run like gazelle but he can't throw or read a defense worth a damn.

He used to run like a gazelle. He now runs like whatever animal is slightly slower than a gazelle.

[TrapGame]

Schrader will start next year. Mark it down. If we can't trust Key after a spring and fall in Joe's offense now he won't start next year.

[testuser]

I'm not a coach but why does tackle double team down and let end come untouched?

[VandelayIndustries]

Another garbage call

[TrapGame]

Sweat got screwed!

[maroonmania]

Yep, and this board celebrated when he did. You are TOTALLY wrong about nobody wanting him to leave. People didn't want to fire him because they knew how stupid it would look. MANY wanted him to leave on his own. They got their wish.

I am 100% correct in what I said dude. There were absolutely lots of people wanting him to leave because of him working so hard to leave.

[VandelayIndustries]

About to be a blowout

[msstate7]

27-3 LSU final

O is twice the coach of Moorhead

[EdDawg]

Fify

Coaches have a very hard time changing their scheme to their players. Even Mullen had a tough time with Russell.

If we hired someone to run Mullen's system then we would just be hiring someone that does exactly that, but wouldn't be as good. So we would concede to not have as good a coach from the very beginning.

[msstate7]

Coaches have a very hard time changing their scheme to their players. Even Mullen had a tough time with Russell.

If we hired someone to run Mullen's system then we would just be hiring someone that does exactly that, but wouldn't be as good. So we would concede to not have as good a coach from the very beginning.

Oh, and I thought Mullen was doing exactly that this season with Franks. Who knew Franks fit Mullen's system

[VandelayIndustries]

Great play Errol,

[EdDawg]

Oh, and I thought Mullen was doing exactly that this season with Franks. Who knew Franks fit Mullen's system

So you're saying they are as good as they would be if fitz was their QB?

[testuser]

Franks is 10 times the passer Fitz is. And Franks not a great passer

[TrapGame]

Franks is 10 times the passer Fitz is. And Franks not a great passer

Exactly. Franks is a much better passer than Fitz.

[phatdog]

New QB please

[Liverpooldawg]

I am 100% correct in what I said dude. There were absolutely lots of people wanting him to leave because of him working so hard to leave.

I didn't want him to leave, period. Those folks helped him on his way. We are MSU.

[Goldendawg]

So you saying we downgraded at HC. I agree

Croom/Willie 2.0. Give it 4 or 5 years and the West Coast, I mean RPO Offense will work in the SEC.

[Activated Alpha]

So we are relying on Fitz to lead these guys down the field to score two touchdowns in order to win. Yeah this game is over

[msstate7]

So you're saying they are as good as they would be if fitz was their QB?

I'm saying Mullen altered his offense to fit his talent and has them playing well. We have more talent and are complete garbage

[Liverpooldawg]

So you're saying they are as good as they would be if fitz was their QB?

He doesn't, but he is a better QB than Fitz. With their personnel Fitz might not start.

[msstate7]

Franks is 10 times the passer Fitz is. And Franks not a great passer

And fitz is a 1000 times the runner Franks is

[maroonmania]

Come on Aeris, stay on your feet.

[Dawgs31]

I'm saying Mullen altered his offense to fit his talent and has them playing well. We have more talent and are complete garbage

Fitz can’t make more than one decision per play.

[Activated Alpha]

I didn't want him to leave, period. Those folks helped him on his way. We are MSU.

Liver I normally agree with you, but i was tired of Mullen looking for an out. I was supportive of him, but it got tiresome.

[TrapGame]

Fitz throws a ballistic missile.

[EdDawg]

So you're saying they are as good as they would be if fitz was their QB?

There is always going to be a drop off when an offensive coach doesn't have a QB to match their scheme. We don't know what Florida's ceiling could be because their former coach was awful. Mullen is definitely better than McE, but they aren't as good as they would be with fitz because he fits his system better than franks.

[MedDawg]

Exactly. Franks is a much better passer than Fitz.

Franks was a .97 high 4-star recruit, the #5 QB coming out of HS

[TrapGame]

**** me with a spoon!

[maroonmania]

We just have no skill players outside of RB. Nobody can catch or throw.

[Turfdawg67]

Oh boy... I was already checked out (but not really) but gosh damn, this is Croom offense bad. :-(

[MaroonFlounder]

So you saying we downgraded at HC. I agree

We at least have a HC that wants to be here.

[bobtail bob]

Wtf ? does he have to the sack to sit fritz? We can't win with this

[msstate7]

Why don't you try key next drive?

[msstate7]

We at least have a HC that wants to be here.

Good for him. I want him gone

[Turfdawg67]

We just have no skill players outside of RB. Nobody can catch or throw.

Same team that beat LSU 37-7 last year. It's coaching, we've got the team to beat LSU

[TNDawg35]

Fitz is done. He broke the record, time to sit his ass. Until we do, we’re not gonna do shit. I hate it for Stoops and this D. They are playing/have played their ass off...

[LC Dawg]

I didn't want him to leave, period. Those folks helped him on his way. We are MSU.

Bullshit! Fans had nothing to do with him trying to leave. You need to admit to yourself that Mullen didn't want to coach the team you claim to love because he thinks he is better than you and me and every other Mississippi State fan.

[TrapGame]

We are getting out coached by a stupid coonass and an offensive dinosaur running plays from 1992.

[Activated Alpha]

Instead of giving it to Aries for a 1st down he throws a rocket at the TE 4 yards away from him.

[Kingbarkus]

Come on Aeris, stay on your feet.

He had a TD if he would not have fallen.

[msstate7]

Same team that beat LSU 37-7 last year. It's coaching, we've got the team to beat LSU

Nah, brah, Moorhead is the greatest offensive coach since Jesus

[TrapGame]

Put in Key and make him the RAT.

Do it Joe.

[MaroonFlounder]

Good for him. I want him gone

You're stuck with him.

[mparkerfd20]

I've turned it off. I'm done

[VandelayIndustries]

I've turned it off. I'm done

You are going to miss the comeback haha

[bobtail bob]

Defense is tired. They have done enough for this game to be much closer.

[MaroonFlounder]

Defense is gassed. This game is over

[msstate7]

You're stuck with him.

RIP bulldog football

[HoopsDawg]

Bring in Dam Williams.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Nah, brah, Moorhead is the greatest offensive coach since Jesus

Moorhead may or may not be the guy but how the **** is it his fault that Fitz is 4-13 for 19 yards and 2 picks? That's less throwing than even Mullen did and less than all the ultimatums that were being thrown out by our dumbass fans earlier today.

[BrunswickDawg]

Holy shit - Burrows granddad played basketball for us. We are getting punked by a legacy. That ****ing figures

[Goldendawg]

Same team that beat LSU 37-7 last year. It's coaching, we've got the team to beat LSU

Same team that beat Ky 45 -7 last year.

[Turfdawg67]

What a GD disappointment this season is... and I expect as equal from our "ranked" basketball team. F*ck... why oh why was I born in Starkville?!?

[bobtail bob]

Dumpster fire.

[Saltydog]

more disappointed in a MSU team as this one.

[VandelayIndustries]

D hasn't given up, has played great tonight

[VandelayIndustries]

Going to FG us to death

[bobtail bob]

I cant stand seeing orge"s duck beaked face

[IMissJack]

Guys Moorhead may be a good coach one day, but whoevev evaluated that his offense was compatable with Mullen's players and sold that to Cohen is terrible. And if it was Cohen himself then he needs the blame.

[TrapGame]

7-5

We'll beat Ark, La Tech and om.

[Matt3467]

Moorhead may or may not be the guy but how the **** is it his fault that Fitz is 4-13 for 19 yards and 2 picks? That's less throwing than even Mullen did and less than all the ultimatums that were being thrown out by our dumbass fans earlier today.

Can't get it through some of these people. Mullen brought a little success to a historically bad program and now our fanbase has gotten to be one of the most toxic around.

[starkvegasdawg]

Total yards though 3 1/2,quarters.

MSU 189
LSU 199

We've rushed for 170 yards and lit up the air for 19 yards.

[Rustydawg]

Here comes the Moorhead wildcat offense again.

[Activated Alpha]

I would love for him to just play Key for one drive

[maroonmania]

Same team that beat LSU 37-7 last year. It's coaching, we've got the team to beat LSU

Well not exactly, Mitchell, Williams nor Guidry were not starting at WR last year.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Guys Moorhead may be a good coach one day, but whoevev evaluated that his offense was compatable with Mullen's players and sold that to Cohen is terrible. And if it was Cohen himself then he needs the blame.
Maybe Cohen was looking beyond this one singular season that we were apparently so entitled to.

[bobtail bob]

LSU defense tried this same shit with muffins and fl broke some long runs with the option pitch. Does nomo even watch film. At least work on that play a little in the two weeks off

[TrapGame]

Terrible throw.

Nick is shit.

[VandelayIndustries]

Let's be honest, Fitz isn;t great. Our WR's are terrible as well

[Goldendawg]

more disappointed in a MSU team as this one.

Sometimes it's hard for normal people to relate to a genius and his ideas. Give it 5 or 6 seasons.

[LC Dawg]

They have as many field goals as we have completions. That's on the coaches, the qb, and the receivers.

[Really Clark?]

Nick took a lot off of that throw and it was behind the WR

[TrapGame]

Let's be honest, Fitz isn;t great. Our WR's are terrible as well

Yeah, but it's hard when your QB is hitting you in the ass and not the numbers.

[Goldendawg]

Tell me when we put our foot "on the offensive accelerator".

[Cooterpoot]

CHANGE 17ING QBS!!! How 17ING HARD IS IT!

[TrapGame]

CHANGE 17ING QBS!!! How 17ING HARD IS IT!

Key should have been in three series ago.

[msstate7]

CHANGE 17ING QBS!!! How 17ING HARD IS IT!

Do it next drive, and full time going into aTm

[MaroonFlounder]

. If somehow we get a couple of good passes on LSU's DBs early in the game we might just blow up Aranda's game plan.

Played right into it with Nick throwing 2 right in their hands to start the game.

[Coursesuper]

Maybe Cohen was looking beyond this one singular season that we were apparently so entitled to.

Man, STFU, we have more talent out there in both sides of the ball than we’ve ever had. This is a huge disappointment, if we had any offense at all we could have gone a long way. Cohen ain’t a saint like many here make him out to be.

[Doggie_Style]

CHANGE 17ING QBS!!! How 17ING HARD IS IT!

That would actually make sense.....so of course Joe, aka Mr McGoo, won?t do it

[Saltydog]

week off.

[IMissJack]

Maybe Cohen was looking beyond this one singular season that we were apparently so entitled to.

Right. Keep telling yourself that. You do that when a team needs rebuilding, not when expectations are high.

[BulldogBear]

That would actually make sense.....so of course Joe, aka Mr McCroom, won?t do it

Fify

[VandelayIndustries]

Moor INTS

[msstate7]

Lol... he'll miss 1st half of bama game.

[testuser]

I think plan my be to redshirt key?

[parabrave]

Well its see what Keyton can do/

[msstate7]

LSU has no shot now vs bama.

[TrapGame]

I think plan my be to redshirt key?

No. Key is worse than Nick. And he went through spring practice as the #1 QB.

I've defended Joe but it's getting too hard now.

[Matt3467]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! WHY IS FITZ BACK!!!!!

[TrapGame]

BENCH FITZ!!!!

[msstate7]

No. Key is worse than Nick. And he went through spring practice as the #1 QB.

I've defended Joe but it's getting too hard now.

How anyone can defend Moorhead the clown is beyond me

[Dawgs31]

We’ve given Fitz every chance to learn this offense. It’s over.

[Matt3467]

OMG!

[VandelayIndustries]

MOOR INTS

[testuser]

Did Joe just say bench him?

[TNDawg35]

Anyone read Joes lips then? He said that’s it... Fitz is done.

[parabrave]

Nice playcall

[Matt3467]

How anyone can defend Moorhead the clown is beyond me

How is it Joe's fault Fitz can't pass?

[HaggardDawg]

Did Joe just say bench him?

It was either that or "that's it".

[IMissJack]

LSU has no shot now vs bama.

They willl get beat by 21 at least.

[Doggie_Style]

Thanks for that!

[starkvegasdawg]

That's it for me. Tv is now off. I can't watch McCorvey ball any more. And to think this was to be our season. I hate it for our defense. They are truly elite, but our offense is pathetic.

[NCDawg]

Anyone read Joes lips then? He said that’s it... Fitz is done.

Should have given Thompson a chance.

[Matt3467]

I was screaming at the screen when I saw that dude running back onto the field and then what does he do? He throws another freaking pick....That was a good playcall and probably a TD with a good pass. Bench that dude and never play him again.

[Activated Alpha]

When the refs give you a chance to save face and bench your QB for you, it's a sign Moorhead. They're trying to help you

[TNDawg35]

How anyone can defendn is beyond me

How can you be so ****in dumb? How the **** is it Joes fault that Fitz has thrown more interceptions that ****ing completions tonight? Damn some of you people blow my ducking mind!! Fitz throws interception, It’s ****in Joes fault. Fitz has been making wrong read after wrong read!

[VandelayIndustries]

They willl get beat by 21 at least.

Yea no one is beating Bama

[MedDawg]

Fitz hurt his hand on the late hit and shouldn't have gone back in anyway.

[VandelayIndustries]

Proud of the D tonight. they fought hard

[msstate7]

How can you be so ****in dumb? How the **** is it Joes fault that Fitz has thrown more interceptions that ****ing completions tonight? Damn some of you people blow my ducking mind!! Fitz throws interception, It’s ****in Joes fault. Fitz has been making wrong read after wrong read!

Who keeps running fitz out there? How in the world did Mullen win with fitz? Maybe, just maybe, Moorhead isn't Sean Payton like you think

[Randolph Dupree]

On the bright side, I doubt my season tickets will increase this coming year.

[Matt3467]

I missed what Moorhead said after Fitz threw the last pic....

[starkvegasdawg]

Maybe Fitz needs to get back on what he was suspended for. He played better then.

[bulldawg28]

Maybe Fitz needs to get back on what he was suspended for. He played better then.

Leave Fitz on the bench except for packages

[TrapGame]

How anyone can defend Moorhead the clown is beyond me

Because Nick plain stinks as a QB. Nick wouldn't even be carrying a clip board at Penn St. He'd be a TE and that's it.

[VandelayIndustries]

Just run the ball and get out of here, can't take another INT

[TNDawg35]

Who keeps running fitz out there? How in the world did Mullen win with fitz? Maybe, just maybe, Moorhead isn't Sean Payton like you think

I never said he was Sean Payton. But even he would have trouble calling plays when all you can do is run the ball cause your QB keeps throwing pic after pic.

And yes, I don’t understand why they 17 Key isn’t playing...

[Matt3467]

And Fitz is still out there..... Apparently Joe didn't say what we think he did.

[Pit Bull]

They willl get beat by 21 at least.

At least.

[TNDawg35]

And Fitz is still out there..... Apparently Joe didn't say what we think he did.

I swore he said that’s it, he’s done...

[TrapGame]

Even the announcers say bench him.

[VandelayIndustries]

MOOR INTS

[msstate7]

Even the announcers say bench him.

How dare they question the offensive genius that is Moorhead

[TrapGame]

Fitz has reached Henig levels of incompetence. Damn.

[BeardoMSU]

How dare they question the offensive genius that is Moorhead

You guys that think Key is going to come in and slang dick all over the field have issues....

[Liverpooldawg]

Defense played well. 4 interceptions, no way we win with that. They stuffed the run after the first quarter. If we have to pass with Fitz, we lose. 7-5 at best. 5-7 or we fire him.

[Liverpooldawg]

Defense played well. 4 interceptions, no way we win with that. They stuffed the run after the first quarter. If we have to pass with Fitz, we lose. 7-5 at best. 5-7 or we fire him.

For the record, it was closer than I expected.

[HoopsDawg]

How dare they question the offensive genius that is Moorhead

It's time for the announcers to quit referring to him as a guru.

[parabrave]

DAmmit Moorhead IT'S your JOB to make sure that the Players that you put in can carry out YOUR fing gameplan. If they can't then you get someone who can or TEACH them to run it or adjust your crappy sloass off to fit them. I don't believe for one second that KT is worse than Fitz right now and I bet right now if KT went to Fla Mullen would have him performing at All SEC level right now. There is no excuse for not putting him in there.

[Liverpooldawg]

Liver I normally agree with you, but i was tired of Mullen looking for an out. I was supportive of him, but it got tiresome.

It did, but I'd still like to be where we were. I still contend he wouldn't have been looking if it wasn't for the idiots that wanted him gone.

[Liverpooldawg]

Leave Fitz on the bench except for packages

Fitz is our best option at the position. The thing is we no longer have an elite coach. Hang on to Joe till he gets his people. He ain't Mullen and obviously can't adapt, but his offense is the future.

[bulldawg28]

Fitz is our best option at the position. The thing is we no longer have an elite coach. Hang on to Joe till he gets his people. He ain't Mullen and obviously can't adapt, but his offense is the future.

BS, 20 yards passing is not the best option. Stop believing that crap. There should be a two Qb system at worst going forward. Fitz didn't earn the job it was given and it shows. Mullen masked his deficiencies by not simplifying everything. Moorehead has asked him to be a Qb. He can't do it.

[GreenheadDawg]

Fitz is our best option at the position. The thing is we no longer have an elite coach. Hang on to Joe till he gets his people. He ain't Mullen and obviously can't adapt, but his offense is the future.

After watching that performance you think Fitz is the best option. Come on, dude. Thompson can’t do any worse. Season is a bust. Let’s play Thompson and prepare for the future. This team is gonna quit on Fitz. We won’t go to a bowl if we don’t make a change

[BuckyIsAB****]

It did, but I'd still like to be where we were. I still contend he wouldn't have been looking if it wasn't for the idiots that wanted him gone.

You sound like the victim blaming themselves. Grow a pair dude

[Goldendawg]

After watching that performance you think Fitz is the best option. Come on, dude. Thompson can’t do any worse. Season is a bust. Let’s play Thompson and prepare for the future. This team is gonna quit on Fitz. We won’t go to a bowl if we don’t make a change

From "going to a bowl", to competing for a title in the West and a New Year's Day bowl. Boy, we have lowered our expectations for this year in a hurry.

[Liverpooldawg]

After watching that performance you think Fitz is the best option. Come on, dude. Thompson can’t do any worse. Season is a bust. Let’s play Thompson and prepare for the future. This team is gonna quit on Fitz. We won’t go to a bowl if we don’t make a change

I've seen them both. Fitz is by far our best option. It sucks but it is what it is. I don't like it anymore than you do.

[Liverpooldawg]

You sound like the victim blaming themselves. Grow a pair dude

I ain't blaming myself. My postion has always been clear. I DO blame our fan base.

[GreenheadDawg]

From "going to a bowl", to competing for a title in the West and a New Year's Day bowl. Boy, we have lowered our expectations for this year in a hurry.

Shocking how quickly that happened. Moorhead and Fitz put us square in the shitter

[GreenheadDawg]

I've seen them both. Fitz is by far our best option. It sucks but it is what it is. I don't like it anymore than you do.


Agree to disagree I guess

[Liverpooldawg]

BS, 20 yards passing is not the best option. Stop believing that crap. There should be a two Qb system at worst going forward. Fitz didn't earn the job it was given and it shows. Mullen masked his deficiencies by not simplifying everything. Moorehead has asked him to be a Qb. He can't do it.

I've seen to many backups that HAD to be better than the starter. The only one that ever worked out in that season, was John Bond. Mullen kept the reads to what Fitz could do.

[Liverpooldawg]

Agree to disagree I guess


So who is better and why? Give me specifics with numbers to back it up. The fact is, if we can't run the ball, we will struggle to win. It's been that way every year but one since Dave Marler.