SIAP - Forrest Hill Band

[TXDawg]

Didn?t see it posted, so I apologize if it?s already been discussed.

This performance by the Forrest Hill Band at Brookhaven is inexcusable. Glad to see FH responded by suspending the band director:

https://www.wlbt.com/2018/10/06/community-outraged-over-forest-hills-insensitive-band-performance-brookhaven-high-school/

[parabrave]

WTF. Fired not suspended should be the penalty.

[GreenheadDawg]

Heads should roll for that shit. ****ing disgusting. Director and principal should be fired immediately and the kids involved expelled.

[Liverpooldawg]

The band director and the principal should both be fired, today. That's just disgusting.

[Mutt the Hoople]

My question is, why did the Brookhaven fans not go off on the band that night?

[BeastMan]

My question is, why did the Brookhaven fans not go off on the band that night?

What are you saying? Storm the field and beat up kids? They did the right thing which is document and complain to the proper authorities. Terrible taste and folks will lose their job.

[Quaoarsking]

Generally high school bands just do one show per year, so this would have been something planned and rehearsed for months and not a direct response to any incident in Brookhaven.

None the less, they obviously should have been more sensitive and edited that part out of the show out last night. You have to show basic common sense and decency in these situations.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Nike is shipping them new band uniforms.

[parabrave]

The band should be suspended from further MSHAA activities.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Generally high school bands just do one show per year, so this would have been something planned and rehearsed for months and not a direct response to any incident in Brookhaven.

None the less, they obviously should have been more sensitive and edited that part out of the show out last night. You have to show basic common sense and decency in these situations.

That part of the show should have never been in the performance to start with.

[Bully13]

It's sad how our children are being indoctrinated in this fashion. Public education $ going for this type of hatred. For the sake of our nation, let's hope a non fake news outlet spreads as much of this incident to the rest of the country.

[Mutt the Hoople]

What are you saying? Storm the field and beat up kids? They did the right thing which is document and complain to the proper authorities. Terrible taste and folks will lose their job.

I'm saying that the Brookhaven fans there weren't too upset with the show.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Heads should roll for that shit. ****ing disgusting. Director and principal should be fired immediately and the kids involved expelled.

if the races were reversed, the kids would probably be charged with a hate crime.

[Quaoarsking]

That part of the show should have never been in the performance to start with.

Maybe. But I'm not going to judge an entire band based on one still photograph out of context. You could do that on a lot of high school and college band performances and get the totally wrong idea.

Again though, they clearly should have not performed the scene in Brookhaven, given recent events. Gotta be smarter and more thoughtful than that.

[Bully13]

Maybe. But I'm not going to judge an entire band based on one still photograph out of context. You could do that on a lot of high school and college band performances and get the totally wrong idea.

Again though, they clearly should have not performed the scene in Brookhaven, given recent events. Gotta be smarter and more thoughtful than that.

Maybe. ??? One still photo? Again though, ???? Gotta be smarter? ya think?

61's Turn.

[Todd4State]

My question is, why did the Brookhaven fans not go off on the band that night?

The people in the band have very little to no say in what type of music they play. I certainly didn't want to do the Madonna show when I was in the band.

Halftime shows are just filler for halftime. It shouldn't be to make a political statement. What Forest Hill did was tasteless and wrong.

[Todd4State]

Maybe. But I'm not going to judge an entire band based on one still photograph out of context. You could do that on a lot of high school and college band performances and get the totally wrong idea.

Again though, they clearly should have not performed the scene in Brookhaven, given recent events. Gotta be smarter and more thoughtful than that.

When that still photo has band members holding machine guns and people laying on the ground it's hard for it to not be a bad look.

[Jack Lambert]

Band director I suspect will be fired. What sucks this will be all over every media out let nation wide.

[Quaoarsking]

The people in the band have very little to no say in what type of music they play. I certainly didn't want to do the Madonna show when I was in the band.

Halftime shows are just filler for halftime. It shouldn't be to make a political statement. What Forest Hill did was tasteless and wrong.

Were they making a political statement though? I haven't seen anything that gives any context to the photo.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Were they making a political statement though? I haven't seen anything that gives any context to the photo.

In the article it says they were depicted as holding SWAT team members hostage.

[Quaoarsking]

In the article it says they were depicted as holding SWAT team members hostage.
Yep?

What was the theme of their halftime show? Was this a reference to a scene from a movie or music video? Sorry, but I find it incredibly unlikely that a high school band would just make "anti-police" as a theme to their halftime show, and even if you don't find that hard to believe, I don't really see how nurses and doctors fit into that theme.

[EdDawg]

Anybody that works for a school should know that is not allowed. I teach and our students aren't even allowed to DRAW pictures of guns much less perform a show with fake ones. This is a huge no no in school nowadays.

And then to add in where they were performing that's just not smart at all.

[Todd4State]

Were they making a political statement though? I haven't seen anything that gives any context to the photo.

I'm not sure. I was speaking more in general terms rather than about the specific halftime show. My point is halftime shows are supposed to be about entertainment.

The interesting thing to me that I did read was no one from Brookhaven had any idea that they were going to do that. That leads me to believe that there may have been some intent there. Bands can put in sets like that well within a week of the game. And I know my high school band director would watch our opponents bands halftime show- not sure if that's the norm. But it seems like someone would have known.

[Drewbowski]

I think the halftime show had something to do with the film John Q. The Band director should have held off the performance for that night.

[GreenheadDawg]

if the races were reversed, the kids would probably be charged with a hate crime.

Al Sharpton and CNN would be there as we speak. Pretty damn sad what this country has become. And that goes for both conservatives and liberals. Hate is overflowing

[Bully13]

The people in the band have very little to no say in what type of music they play. I certainly didn't want to do the Madonna show when I was in the band.

Halftime shows are just filler for halftime. It shouldn't be to make a political statement. What Forest Hill did was tasteless and wrong.

I consider it much worse than tasteless and wrong. I'm thinking / saying it was downright criminal. This cancerous narrative plaguing our country has basically posted open season signs on cops as record numbers of their deaths continue to pour in. This "show" if you wanna call it that was to promote murder. Spinning it as something else is sad.

[EdDawg]

What I read was the theme was from the movie John Q, but why have that as a theme? Most of these students probably weren't born when that movie came out and it's not like it's a classic movie.

[Commercecomet24]

Anybody that works for a school should know that is not allowed. I teach and our students aren't even allowed to DRAW pictures of guns much less perform a show with fake ones. This is a huge no no in school nowadays.

And then to add in where they were performing that's just not smart at all.

This. Kids have been expelled for bringing fake guns or even water guns to school.

[GreenheadDawg]

Yep?

What was the theme of their halftime show? Was this a reference to a scene from a movie or music video? Sorry, but I find it incredibly unlikely that a high school band would just make "anti-police" as a theme to their halftime show, and even if you don't find that hard to believe, I don't really see how nurses and doctors fit into that theme.

Yeh let’s give them a pass since it was probably based from a movie. Jesus man

[Todd4State]

Anybody that works for a school should know that is not allowed. I teach and our students aren't even allowed to DRAW pictures of guns much less perform a show with fake ones. This is a huge no no in school nowadays.

And then to add in where they were performing that's just not smart at all.

This is true. I'm not even sure if the James Bond show my high school band did my freshman year would be allowed either because we had these big plywood guns the flag girls has to twirl.

[Bully13]

Band director I suspect will be fired. What sucks this will be all over every media out let nation wide.

I'm hoping it DOES get to as many nationwide media outlets as possible.

[Commercecomet24]

It shouldn't have been done. Period. It was just wrong. Common sense and decency has to come into play. Smh

[Quaoarsking]

Yeh let’s give them a pass since it was probably based from a movie. Jesus man

Not a free pass - the director needs to be more sensitive in the future. This was an appalling gaffe on his part.

However, we shouldn't push a false narrative that the band was performing an "anti-police" halftime show or that they were making fun of the murdered police officers in Brookhaven.

[Todd4State]

I think the halftime show had something to do with the film John Q. The Band director should have held off the performance for that night.

That's a really weird theme.

[Bully13]

Not a free pass - the director needs to be more sensitive in the future. This was an appalling gaffe on his part.

However, we shouldn't push a false narrative that the band was performing an "anti-police" halftime show or that they were making fun of the murdered police officers in Brookhaven.

Not a free pass? in the future? what future? as a band director? gaffe my ass. false narrative? WTF else could it have been?

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[GreenheadDawg]

Not a free pass - the director needs to be more sensitive in the future. This was an appalling gaffe on his part.

However, we shouldn't push a false narrative that the band was performing an "anti-police" halftime show or that they were making fun of the murdered police officers in Brookhaven.

Are you the band director? No I doubt you are so you don’t know what the message was. Sorry, but after cops were killed the same week and then they perform this shit, this was intentional. But yeh, thanks for your explanation of events Kap

[Drewbowski]

Take it to Fox and make sure they know about it Greenhead. They can't silence us!!!

[Quaoarsking]

Are you the band director? No I doubt you are so you don’t know what the message was. Sorry, but after cops were killed the same week and then they perform this shit, this was intentional. But yeh, thanks for your explanation of events Kap

Are you the band director? Do you not see the logical breakdown in your post here? I can't possibly know the motivation because I'm not the band director, but you can?

I was involved in marching bands for over 10 years, so I know how they work. I know that high school bands perform 1 show per year and that Forest Hill would have been doing this show all season and the decision to do so would have nothing to do with events in Brookhaven that happened over a month after they started performing it.

[Quaoarsking]

Take it to Fox and make sure they know about it Greenhead. They can't silence us!!!

Yeah! Let's make our own state look bad to advance a false politically-charged narrative! That'll show us!

[GreenheadDawg]

Take it to Fox and make sure they know about it Greenhead. They can't silence us!!!

Already done. Not by me but it’s been done.

[TUSK]

I'm shocked at the lack of weapons/muzzle discipline displayed in that still... I thought they would have had more firearms experience than that...

[GreenheadDawg]

Ohhh well since they’ve been practicing this for over a month then they should be allowed to perform it, not matter what happened earlier in the week. Thanks for clearing that up

[RougeDawg]

Al Sharpton and CNN would be there as we speak. Pretty damn sad what this country has become. And that goes for both conservatives and liberals. Hate is overflowing

I will assume your google is broken. Because the hate is only going one direction and only one side physically and verbally attacking the other. I think you heard about a softball practice or The Red Hen restaurant. Fhioss are just a couple that come to mind.

I think you are mistaking hate for disagreement because the mainstream has made disagreeable items into hate for their own political purposes. Opposing an ideology or failed policy isn?t hate. Physically intimidating or actually attacking someone can be hate. And quite frankly there is only one side committing those types of acts.

No one physically attacked democrats because they opposed Obama and his failed policies/ideology. They took it to the ballot box like civil individuals. The script flipped on Nov 8, 2016 and we have seen actually physical violence and hate toward the winning side. Albeit most of this is fabricated and paid for by large donors, it?s still does not disprove the facts. Only one side is doing this, and the worst part is the people leading the party are actually donating to funds that pay for the violence.

[Quaoarsking]

Ohhh well since they’ve been practicing this for over a month then they should be allowed to perform it, not matter what happened earlier in the week. Thanks for clearing that up

Wow, you really need to work on reading comprehension. I've said all over this thread that this should have been edited out of their show last night due to the events in Brookhaven.

[GreenheadDawg]

Wow, you really need to work on reading comprehension. I've said all over this thread that this should have been edited out of their show last night due to the events in Brookhaven.

I have a Doctorate so my reading comprehension is just fine. I just don’t speak moron

[GreenheadDawg]

I will assume your google is broken. Because the hate is only going one direction and only one side physically and verbally attacking the other. I think you heard about a softball practice or The Red Hen restaurant. Fhioss are just a couple that come to mind.

I think you are mistaking hate for disagreement because the mainstream has made disagreeable items into hate for their own political purposes. Opposing an ideology or failed policy isn?t hate. Physically intimidating or actually attacking someone can be hate. And quite frankly there is only one side committing those types of acts.

No one physically attacked democrats because they opposed Obama and his failed policies/ideology. They took it to the ballot box like civil individuals. The script flipped on Nov 8, 2016 and we have seen actually physical violence and hate toward the winning side. Albeit most of this is fabricated and paid for by large donors, it?s still does not disprove the facts. Only one side is doing this, and the worst part is the people leading the party are actually donating to funds that pay for the violence.

True. I was just trying to be polite to both sides and not make it completely political. That ship has sailed

[Quaoarsking]

I have a Doctorate so my reading comprehension is just fine. I just don’t speak moron

Take the L dude.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

I'm shocked at the lack of weapons/muzzle discipline displayed in that still... I thought they would have had more firearms experience than that...

At least they're not turned sideways, baby steps mane.

[Bully13]

So I guess they had a plan to show 2 cops getting killed prior to the tragedy and didn't think to edit that part out in light of recent events. I guess if the 2 cops hadn't been killed, everything would have been cool. Sound about right Q?

[GreenheadDawg]

Take the L dude.

And how did you win the argument? I would say you got the L. See, works both ways.

[Quaoarsking]

So I guess they had a plan to show 2 cops getting killed prior to the tragedy and didn't think to edit that part out in light of recent events. I guess if the 2 cops hadn't been killed, everything would have been cool. Sound about right Q?

Yep. Had the cops not been killed, nobody would have given their John Q show a second thought, just like nobody did in August or September.

Nobody interpreted the Famous Maroon Band's "Pirates of the Caribbean" show in 2006 as an endorsement of piracy, but if there had been a major pirate incident during that season and the band stupidly decide to play it anyway, it would have lead to confusion and upset.

[TUSK]

At least they're not turned sideways, baby steps mane.

That was as strong as a garlic milkshake....

You have been repped, sir.

[Quaoarsking]

And how did you win the argument? I would say you got the L. See, works both ways.

You: "Ohhh well since they’ve been practicing this for over a month then they should be allowed to perform it, not matter what happened earlier in the week."
Me: Actually I have repeatedly said that they shouldn't have performed it.
You: Oh, uh, well, uh, uh, uh, you're a moron!!!!1

[Really Clark?]

Yep. Had the cops not been killed, nobody would have given their John Q show a second thought, just like nobody did in August or September.

Nobody interpreted the Famous Maroon Band's "Pirates of the Caribbean" show in 2006 as an endorsement of piracy, but if there had been a major pirate incident during that season and the band stupidly decide to play it anyway, it would have lead to confusion and upset.

Don’t know one way or another but I haven’t seeing it stated in the news this has been their regular halftime show. Maybe it has been but I know Forest Hill parents/fans in attendance have publicly come out and condemn the director for the performance as well. Nobody has said it was their regular program however, unless I missed it somewhere

[GreenheadDawg]

You: "Ohhh well since they’ve been practicing this for over a month then they should be allowed to perform it, not matter what happened earlier in the week."
Me: Actually I have repeatedly said that they shouldn't have performed it.
You: Oh, uh, well, uh, uh, uh, you're a moron!!!!1

Well then you contradicted yourself by making a whole post about how long they have been practicing it as if that’s an excuse for it. Listen, agree to disagree. This argument with you isn’t worth the time. Go Dawgs

[Quaoarsking]

Well then you contradicted yourself by making a whole post about how long they have been practicing it as if that’s an excuse for it. Listen, agree to disagree. This argument with you isn’t worth the time. Go Dawgs

Pointing out how long the show has been in the works was to dispel with the fiction that this show was an intentional reference to the murdered Brookhaven cops. I have been very clear in this thread, from my first post on, that even though it was not referring to them specifically, they still should have been more sensitive and not performed the part of the show from the photo.

[BeastMan]

The people in the band have very little to no say in what type of music they play. I certainly didn't want to do the Madonna show when I was in the band.



Come on, you know you loved performing Like A Virgin**

[BeastMan]

I'm saying that the Brookhaven fans there weren't too upset with the show.

But do we know that? I saw Madison Co Sheriff Randy Tucker, who was there, comment about it on FB. Honestly, who watches the band at halftime in HS, especially the visitor? I bet the majority of the stadium had no idea it was going on.

[Liverpooldawg]

Generally high school bands just do one show per year, so this would have been something planned and rehearsed for months and not a direct response to any incident in Brookhaven.

None the less, they obviously should have been more sensitive and edited that part out of the show out last night. You have to show basic common sense and decency in these situations.

This was the first time they had done that part. It had to be specifically planned.

[Liverpooldawg]

Are you the band director? Do you not see the logical breakdown in your post here? I can't possibly know the motivation because I'm not the band director, but you can?

I was involved in marching bands for over 10 years, so I know how they work. I know that high school bands perform 1 show per year and that Forest Hill would have been doing this show all season and the decision to do so would have nothing to do with events in Brookhaven that happened over a month after they started performing it.

They added that part for the first time for this game.

[Quaoarsking]

This was the first time they had done that part. It had to be specifically planned.

Do you have a source on that?

[shoeless joe]

What I read was the theme was from the movie John Q, but why have that as a theme? Most of these students probably weren't born when that movie came out and it's not like it's a classic movie.

Don't think for a second that this movie wasn't picked because of the shooting of "authority" or law enforcement. Heads should roll but when it comes to JPS there is no telling.

[shoeless joe]

Wow, you really need to work on reading comprehension. I've said all over this thread that this should have been edited out of their show last night due to the events in Brookhaven.

Why should they EVER be allowed to perform where they're acting out the shooting of law enforcement????

[Quaoarsking]

Why should they EVER be allowed to perform where they're acting out the shooting of law enforcement????

There is no shooting of law enforcement in the marching band show or the film John Q -- in the movie, the gun was unloaded. You may think I'm splitting hairs, but I think that's a pretty key difference. It's why the protagonist of the movie is portrayed as heroic and not a cold-blooded killer.

As I previously said, no one would have given this show a second thought if they hadn't stupidly decided to do it in Brookhaven in the aftermath of a police shooting.

[Liverpooldawg]

Do you have a source on that?

It was in one if the Mississippi media articles I saw this morning. Not sure which one.

[Quaoarsking]

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg

[Liverpooldawg]

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg

It not appropriate even if it wasn't in Brookhaven this week. If it had been going in all year in a way it's even worse. Heads need to roll.

[RocketDawg]

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg

Regardless of what happened in Brookhaven, why would a band be doing such a halftime show anyway?

[Really Clark?]

There is no shooting of law enforcement in the marching band show or the film John Q -- in the movie, the gun was unloaded. You may think I'm splitting hairs, but I think that's a pretty key difference. It's why the protagonist of the movie is portrayed as heroic and not a cold-blooded killer.

As I previously said, no one would have given this show a second thought if they hadn't stupidly decided to do it in Brookhaven in the aftermath of a police shooting.

With school shooting issues and law enforcement/public safety departments trying to find ways to educate and develop safety protocols, in what world would bringing simulated automatic weapons be a reasonable idea? Fake loaded or not? Pretty reckless and dangerous idea, nevermind the insensitive nature of the theme. What if one of those students used a real loaded weapon and opened fire? In today’s world it has to be an automatic suspension for the students and firing for the band director.

[Really Clark?]

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg


No malice from the STUDENTS is what the mayor stated but the above statement doesn’t say it was a misunderstanding nor has anyone stated that this was being done all year. It may have been but you would think THAT would have been a part of all of these statements immediately. No way would I have made a public statement and not make clear that this was already a part of the program and should have been removed (shouldn’t have been allowed to begin with because of the subject matter and school safety policy....ridiculous)

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Since it was from a movie, could an all white marching band burn crosses and wear klan outfits like we have seen in movies? Especially when being the visiting team at a predominately black school. Of course not.

[BeardoMSU]

Since it was from a movie, could an all white marching band burn crosses and wear klan outfits like we have seen in movies? Especially when being the visiting team at a predominately black school. Of course not.

Is that something you're dying to see?*

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Is that something you're dying to see?*

Absolutely not. Just like I don't want to see cops being killed. Both are unacceptable.

[starkvegasdawg]

Maybe a hs band will do a show based on MS Burning or Roots. I'm sure the lefties would make excuses for that just as vehemently.

[WSOPdawg]

Regardless of what happened in Brookhaven, why would a band be doing such a halftime show anyway?

Exactly, this is supposed to be a 7-minute musical performance at halftime -- why dress in costume and carry guns to entertain. Sounds to me its more of an after-thought excuse (the John Q theme). I think heads need to roll over this!!!

[shoeless joe]

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg

If rolls were reversed and the theme depicted violence toward gays or minorities would you be defending so vehemently?

[BeardoMSU]

Exactly, this is supposed to be a 7-minute musical performance at halftime -- why dress in costume and carry guns to entertain. Sounds to me its more of an after-thought excuse (the John Q theme). I think heads need to roll over this!!!

Marching band has always been about theatrics. Obviously not HS, but this is Phantom Regiment (DCI) performing their Spartacus show from 2008, complete with special costumes, guard acting as slaves, Drum Majors as Roman officers, etc...Not sticking up for the use of gun props in this HS show, but marching band, to the people that do it, has always been more than just filler during the halftime.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg6tqrpMnm8

[Bully13]

Marching band has always been about theatrics. Obviously not HS, but this is Phantom Regiment (DCI) performing their Spartacus show from 2008, complete with special costumes, guard acting as slaves, Drum Majors as Roman officers, etc...Not sticking up for the use of gun props in this HS show, but marching band, to the people that do it, has always been more than just filler during the halftime.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg6tqrpMnm8

Trying to figure out which comparison is dumber. This one or Q's comparing Pirates of the Caribbean to modern day Somalia pirates.

[GreenheadDawg]

Trying to figure out which comparison is dumber. This one or Q's comparing Pirates of the Caribbean to modern day Somalia pirates.

Both comparisons are dumb and both are just trying to push their liberal agenda.

[Mutt the Hoople]

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg
Here's what Errick L. Greene is REALLY doing.
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[BeardoMSU]

Trying to figure out which comparison is dumber. This one or Q's comparing Pirates of the Caribbean to modern day Somalia pirates.

What comparison did I make? No where. I'm not making any comparison, dude......I was pointing specifically to WSOP that marching band is more than 7 minutes of fluff between the 2nd and 3rd quarters of a football game. I used this theatrical example from DCI to support my point.

[BeardoMSU]

Both comparisons are dumb and both are just trying to push their liberal agenda.

Lol, ok....now there's a liberal agenda.

[Bully13]

What comparison did I make? No where. I'm not making any comparison, dude......I was pointing specifically to WSOP that marching band is more than 7 minutes of fluff between the 2nd and 3rd quarters of a football game. I used this theatrical example from DCI to support my point.

Your BS Meter needs an 11. Roman history vs a depiction of modern day cops getting executed. You should consider quitting this thread.

[BeardoMSU]

Your BS Meter needs an 11. Roman history vs a depiction of modern day cops getting executed. You should consider quitting this thread.

Wtf is wrong with you? Has the bourbon already impacted your reading comprehension? Where did I say the HS show was OK or justified? Lets take a line-by-line approach....
1) John Q isn't even a good movie, despite having Denzel.
2) Using realistic looking guns in a halftime show is stupid as hell.
3) Even the illusion of "shooting" cops in a halftime show is not only stupid as hell, but horrible, and tasteless. Just having guns in a halftime show is stupid as hell.
4) Whether or not the cops were being "executed", as you state, or just being held hostage, as depicted in the film, is a point not worth debating: it looks horrible, especially in that moment, and shouldn't have been done. Period. Is that clear enough for you?
5) I was in no way comparing Roman ****ing history to this particular situation. As I just said in a previous post, I was pointing out to WSOP that marching band routinely wears costumes, uses props, employs theatrics, etc. etc....and is much more than just the "entertainment" at halftime.
6) Take this shit back to the poly board.

[BeardoMSU]

And speaking of guns in marching band/drum corps, the guard have traditionally used "rifles" as part of their routines....but they look like this....

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41X1-q26%2BJL._SL1500_.jpg

About as non-threatening/realistic as you can get.

[RocketDawg]

And speaking of guns in marching band/drum corps, the guard have traditionally used "rifles" as part of their routines....but they look like this....

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41X1-q26%2BJL._SL1500_.jpg

About as non-threatening/realistic as you can get.

When I was in school, males (there was a female version, but it was voluntary and they were the "sweethearts" of the males) had to take ROTC the first two years, and Tuesdays were parade days (at least for the Army ... the AF may have had another day ... can't remember). Those of us in Army ROTC had to carry M-1 rifles around during parade time. They were real, but didn't have firing pins. We also had to (or were supposed to) disassemble and clean the things once a week in the ROTC building. I don't know how many years that requirement went on after I left school, but those were different days and times than now. I think basic ROTC was required at all land-grant universities at the time.

[BeardoMSU]

When I was in school, males (there was a female version, but it was voluntary and they were the "sweethearts" of the males) had to take ROTC the first two years, and Tuesdays were parade days (at least for the Army ... the AF may have had another day ... can't remember). Those of us in Army ROTC had to carry M-1 rifles around during parade time. They were real, but didn't have firing pins. We also had to (or were supposed to) disassemble and clean the things once a week in the ROTC building. I don't know how many years that requirement went on after I left school, but those were different days and times than now. I think basic ROTC was required at all land-grant universities at the time.

My HS ROTC had the same M1's...I'm pretty sure their actions were welded shut and the barrels were plugged, but they looked legit from a distance.

[RocketDawg]

My HS ROTC had the same M1's...I'm pretty sure their actions were welded shut and the barrels were plugged, but they looked legit from a distance.

Ours were real all the way except for the firing pin. I've forgotten the command, but from Attention, we'd have to come to Port Arms and open the action for inspection. I think he was looking for dust rather than it being loaded. But to close it, you had to hold the action (maybe called the receiver?) back with your hand while pressing down with your thumb to release it to close. If your timing was not good, you could slam it shut on your thumb, and that was fairly easy to do when you didn't know what you were doing and it was a really cold day. Painful. I only did it once.